Thank you all! That's what I felt was the case, but wanted to check with
other opinions before moving forward as I have never dealt with this
situation before!

-Melanie

On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 2:08 AM, Angela Kipp <
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> Hi Melanie,
>
> I agree with all what William said, especially on developing a policy for
> your case.
>
> Important is to understand that accessioning and ownership is not the same
> thing. While you should have well documented ownership to properly
> accession something (read: invoice or deed of gift and transfer of title),
> you don't lose ownership when you deaccession something. The desk and chair
> in your office belong to your museum, yet, they are not accessioned. If you
> discover a fake you might decide to deaccession it because you don't
> collect fakes but still use it for educational purposes - you can, it's
> still yours.
>
> If the objects were deaccessioned but never transfered to another
> institution, they still belong to the museum. Make very sure they weren't
> promised to another institution and there already exists a transfer of
> title but the transport didn't take place, though. If the collection is
> still yours, I don't see anything that would speak against giving a
> researcher access to the documentation.
>
> Best wishes
> Angela
>
> Angela Kipp
> Collection Manager
> TECHNOSEUM, Mannheim, Germany
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>
> Quoting William Shepherd <[log in to unmask]>:
>
> Hello Melanie,
>>
>>                 Barring some sort of specifics to your case any records,
>> images, or documentation you have would stay on record with you and could
>> be used by staff or possibly researchers in cases that don’t violate
>> ownership or copyright if they’ve been transferred elsewhere. Especially as
>> you still have everything on site and haven’t transferred ownership to
>> anyone else there shouldn’t be any issue providing access I wouldn’t think.
>> If the items were transferred I’d refer the researcher to the new
>> institution. If they were destroyed that’s a bit more tricky but explain
>> why and the steps taken. You may also have or want to develop a policy
>> around researcher access to deaccessioned records documentation.
>>
>> William Shepherd
>> Collections Officer
>> Swift Current Museum
>> 44 Robert Street West
>> Swift Current, Saskatchewan
>> S9H 4M9
>> Phone: 306-778-4815
>> Fax: 306-778-4818
>>
>> Archives: http://sain.scaa.sk.ca/collections/swift-current-museum
>> Library: https://www.librarything.com/profile/SwiftCurrentMuseum
>> Website: http://www.swiftcurrent.ca
>>
>> From: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of
>> Melanie C Deer
>> Sent: April 27, 2018 9:48 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Deaccessioned but not removed
>>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> So we have a very large collection that recently got deaccessioned
>> (before my time), however it has not been transferred, disposed of, or
>> otherwise dealt with. My understanding is it was deaccessioned with the
>> intent to transfer but that fell through. I now have a researcher inquiring
>> about information on some of the objects deaccessioned.
>>
>> Do we still have rights to the documentation and images taken of the
>> objects? Or are they in lala land due to being deaccessioned?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Melanie
>>
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