Thank you all! That's what I felt was the case, but wanted to check with other opinions before moving forward as I have never dealt with this situation before! -Melanie On Sat, Apr 28, 2018 at 2:08 AM, Angela Kipp < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi Melanie, > > I agree with all what William said, especially on developing a policy for > your case. > > Important is to understand that accessioning and ownership is not the same > thing. While you should have well documented ownership to properly > accession something (read: invoice or deed of gift and transfer of title), > you don't lose ownership when you deaccession something. The desk and chair > in your office belong to your museum, yet, they are not accessioned. If you > discover a fake you might decide to deaccession it because you don't > collect fakes but still use it for educational purposes - you can, it's > still yours. > > If the objects were deaccessioned but never transfered to another > institution, they still belong to the museum. Make very sure they weren't > promised to another institution and there already exists a transfer of > title but the transport didn't take place, though. If the collection is > still yours, I don't see anything that would speak against giving a > researcher access to the documentation. > > Best wishes > Angela > > Angela Kipp > Collection Manager > TECHNOSEUM, Mannheim, Germany > www.technoseum.de > > Join the Registrar Trek at http://world.museumsprojekte.de/ > Follow us on Twitter @RegistrarTrek > > This is a personal opinion, my institution can't be held responsible for > anything I write > > > Quoting William Shepherd <[log in to unmask]>: > > Hello Melanie, >> >> Barring some sort of specifics to your case any records, >> images, or documentation you have would stay on record with you and could >> be used by staff or possibly researchers in cases that don’t violate >> ownership or copyright if they’ve been transferred elsewhere. Especially as >> you still have everything on site and haven’t transferred ownership to >> anyone else there shouldn’t be any issue providing access I wouldn’t think. >> If the items were transferred I’d refer the researcher to the new >> institution. If they were destroyed that’s a bit more tricky but explain >> why and the steps taken. You may also have or want to develop a policy >> around researcher access to deaccessioned records documentation. >> >> William Shepherd >> Collections Officer >> Swift Current Museum >> 44 Robert Street West >> Swift Current, Saskatchewan >> S9H 4M9 >> Phone: 306-778-4815 >> Fax: 306-778-4818 >> >> Archives: http://sain.scaa.sk.ca/collections/swift-current-museum >> Library: https://www.librarything.com/profile/SwiftCurrentMuseum >> Website: http://www.swiftcurrent.ca >> >> From: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of >> Melanie C Deer >> Sent: April 27, 2018 9:48 AM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Deaccessioned but not removed >> >> Hello All, >> >> So we have a very large collection that recently got deaccessioned >> (before my time), however it has not been transferred, disposed of, or >> otherwise dealt with. My understanding is it was deaccessioned with the >> intent to transfer but that fell through. I now have a researcher inquiring >> about information on some of the objects deaccessioned. >> >> Do we still have rights to the documentation and images taken of the >> objects? Or are they in lala land due to being deaccessioned? >> >> Thank you, >> Melanie >> >> ________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa-HOME.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >> >> ========================================================= >> Important Subscriber Information: >> >> The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/mu >> seum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv >> commands by sending a one line e-mail message to >> [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read >> "help" (without the quotes). >> >> If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to >> [log in to unmask] . 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