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Re: Dress Nomenclature
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"C. Müller-Straten" <[log in to unmask]>
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> Hi all,
>
> I have been asked why I said that both terms do not mean the same and 
> making the statement gown 2) is the same as dress 1).
> To my logical understanding, two words mean the same only if they 
> refer completely to the same object. As both terms refer to different 
> objects, they do not mean "the same". My conclusion would be the same, 
> if only one of both terms in question would refer to different objects.
>
> Christian
>
>
> Am 04.08.2018 um 08:16 schrieb C. Müller-Straten:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> to my personal understanding the terminological question is 
>> difficult, because both terms do not mean the same - and both have 
>> different meanings. In most cases, the context will solve the problem.
>>
>> *Dress*
>>
>> 1) a female garment, covering//the body above OR below the waist (1-3 
>> or more pieces) see ICOM definition
>>
>> 2) the same as a (traditional) costume, libery, array, garb. But for 
>> both, men and women.
>>
>> *Gown* has even more meanings is mostly in use for female garments, 
>> but quite different ones:
>>
>> 1) the same as a lab coat, work coat, smock, pinafore, frock...
>>
>> 2) the same as dress 1) = an general or generic term.
>>
>> 3) the same as a (plastic) cape used in a barber's shop (=a special cape)
>>
>> 4) the same as a cape = a general or generic term
>>
>> 5) the same as a festive (long) evening gown= ball gown = a special 
>> dress 1), in contrary to the little black dress or so-called cocktail 
>> dresses.
>>
>> By the way: The historical ICOM vocabulary should be used with 
>> caution; it contains lots of omissions and errors.
>>
>> Best
>>
>>
>> Christian Mueller-Straten
>>
>> See also http://www.museum-aktuell.de/index.php?site=kwb&TM=8
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 03.08.2018 um 08:24 schrieb Margaret Geiss-Mooney:
>>>
>>> Good evening, MuseumLers – Take a look at the Terminology resource 
>>> offered online by the ICOM – Committee for Costume via their webpage:
>>>
>>> http://network.icom.museum/costume/publications/terminology/
>>>
>>> Document what and why your final decision in writing so future 
>>> generations can follow your reasoning.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Meg
>>>
>>> .   _  _  _  _  _  _  _   _ _   ___________
>>>
>>> Margaret E. Geiss-Mooney
>>>
>>> Textile/Costume Conservator &
>>>
>>> Collections Care/Management Consultant
>>>
>>> Professional Associate – AIC
>>>
>>> National Heritage Responder - AIC
>>>
>>> 1-707-763-8694
>>>
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>>>
>>> | Linked-In <https://www.linkedin.com/in/margaretgeissmooney>
>>>
>>>     On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 10:44 AM, Josh Jordan
>>>     <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>     I have a question regarding how institutions differentiate
>>>     between a "dress" and a "gown" in their catalogs.  Does it have
>>>     to do with the material it is made from?  Is it the event the
>>>     garment would be worn to?  What criteria is used?  I did see in
>>>     Chenhall's Nomenclature that a gown is a type of dress.
>>>
>>>     Want to know how institutions in the field define the terms.
>>>     Thanks
>>>
>>>
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> Redaktion: Dr. Adelheid Straten ([log in to unmask])
> Herausgeber: Dr. Christian Mueller-Straten
> Kunzweg 23, 81243 München, Germany
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> [log in to unmask]
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Herausgeber: Dr. Christian Mueller-Straten
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