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Now THAT"S disturbing!
 
As a result of this header I scanned all the posts on the "responses"  
thread and found nothing I would regard as hate speech. In the response quoted,  
a personal opinion was honestly disclosed with a statement on how it 
influenced  that museum's policy. Elsewhere the discussion seemed quite reasonable.
 
A public museum, especially state or federal chartered, should reflect  and 
respect community values. How does one do that when the  community is split 
into groups that are "deeply disturbed" by any mention of  views opposed to 
their own?
 
Is it responsible behavior to avoid recognizing the issue  altogether?
 
It is unlikely that discussion will resolve the issues but they should  be 
kept in mind, discussed, and thought about so one will be prepared to 
address  them when they arise.
 
We need to regard language as a communications medium, not an assault  
weapon, even if it takes an effort to do so.
 
Mike Csontos
Assistant Librarian
Antique Wireless Museum  
Bloomfield, NY
 
 
 
In a message dated 11/23/2009 9:23:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
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I totally agree & appreciate your remarks.
 
Barb Magers
 
 
Barb Magers
Curatorial Research Assistant
Still National Osteopathic Museum
National Center For Osteopathic History
800 W. Jefferson
Kirksville, MO 63501
ph: 1- 660-626-2359  ext.2558
fax: 1-660-626-2984
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>>>  Dawn Distasio <[log in to unmask]> 11/22/2009 4:57 PM  >>>


Dear Colleagues,
 
I have REALLY tried my best to hold off and not contribute to this  
discussion, as I feel it has gone off topic.  However, with this latest  email by 
Mr. LaGreca I cannot hold my tongue any longer.  As a Christian,  and as a 
museum professional, I am deeply disturbed and angry by the  hateful speech 
that has been used during this thread.  Every religion has  it's own creation 
story, and it should be respected.  Should we be forced  to take one view as 
"gospel" (pardon the word  choice) - of course not.  But to dismiss, and 
look down  upon, someone else's views because of your personal beliefs (and 
that  goes for whatever side you are on or belief you may hold) is not right  
either.  Furthermore, to regard them as "jokers", on a professional  forum, 
is degrading.  And I direct my words not only at Mr. LaGreca,  but at all 
who have participated.  I feel your speech is no better than  the 
conservatives you rally against. (For the record, before anyone formulates  an opinion 
of my motives, I happen to be a liberal.)  We all have a  right to our own 
personal beliefs.  We also have a right to disagree with  each other.  However 
I feel it can be done in a respectful manner without  name calling.  
 
As museum workers we must strive to represent and respect people of all  
nations, religions, cultures and creeds.  There is no place for  intolerance 
of any kind in our field.  
 
Respectfully,
Dawn Distasio


 
____________________________________
 From: Scott LaGreca  <[log in to unmask]>
To:  [log in to unmask]
Sent: Sat, November 21, 2009 7:26:38  AM
Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L]  museum responses to the Evolution/Creationist 
debate

Dear  Friends & Colleagues,

Thank you for all of your comments. Some of  you have written to me
personally, and some have replied to the list. I've  taken the best
emails (in my opinion!) and made notes. I especially like  the
suggestions for introducing an element of humor into my responses  to
visitors. 

Tomorrow is our film "Flock of Dodos" and I'm  basically going to begin
the program with a short introduction, saying (1)  the reason we're
showing this film is that it's the 150th anniversary of  Darwin's famous,
world-changing book, On The Origin of Species. And (2)  Give some
background information about the film--and how (in my opinion)  it's a
fairly even-handed, fair representation of both sides of  the
evolution/creationism debate.

I'll go on to say that I realize  that we appreciate that there are many
opinions and beliefs about  evolution--but we're not going to debate them
here. [Personally, I'm not  prepared to hold a "brown bag discussion" or
"debate" after the  film--although many list subscribers have suggested
this]. I'll close my  comments by saying that if anyone would like to
help organize a "public  forum" at our museum to discuss the
evolution/creationist debate, to be  held at some point in the future,
then please see me after the film.  

Before I close this email I must point out that I was trained as  an
evolutionary biologist (in botany) and (personally) I have a very  small
appetite for creationism or intelligent design arguments. If it were  up
to me, I would not provide a forum for those jokers in any institution  I
worked in. I don't feel that creationists should be given the time  of
day--their arguments are not scientific; indeed, they are dangerous,  in
the sense that they threaten undermine decades of scientific  research
and send society back into the Dark Ages. I believe that there is,  in
fact, no "debate" worth having over this issue.

But of course,  I'd never make my views "policy" into any place I worked
:)

Thanks  again to everyone,

Scott

Scott LaGreca, PhD 
Natural Science  Coordinator 
Berkshire Museum 
39 South Street 
Pittsfield, MA   01201  USA 
TEL 413-443-7171, ext. 17 
FAX 413-443-2135 
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Ring in the Holidays with the 25th annual Festival of Trees at  the
Berkshire Museum from Nov. 14 to January 3, 2010. This year's  Festival
is proudly sponsored by Greylock Federal Credit Union.

For  more event information please visit _www.berkshiremuseum.org_ 
(http://www.berkshiremuseum.org/) 

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