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I contacted MPLC with questions about getting a license for movies and old
TV shows and was told they do not license museums. How do you get a
universal license?

Jeannine Isom, Ph. D.
Curator of Education
Hubbard Museum of the American West

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> Date:    Fri, 13 Apr 2012 08:13:27 +0200
> From:    "Verlag Dr. C. Müller-Straten"
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> Subject: Re: movie clip royalties
>
> Thanks Dave, for your excellent remarks - they coincide with my
> observations.
>
> Christian
>
>
> Am 12.04.2012 20:09, schrieb David Harvey:
> > Oh, and actually if your institution already shows films as part of
> > your programming then you may already be covered by a universal site
> > license. Double-check with the manager who runs the film programs.
> >
> > Cheers!
> > Dave
> >
> > David Harvey
> > Senior Conservator and Museum Consultant
> > Los Angeles CA
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:43 AM, David Harvey <[log in to unmask]
> > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> >
> >     Ok. This is not as huge a thing as some may think. Yes, you need a
> >     license to use a film clip publicly in an exhibit or to show a
> >     film as part of programming, but it is as onerous as some might
> think.
> >
> >     The studios and producers almost universally have a licensing
> >     company or agency manage their rights for them. So sorry, no
> >     letters will be coming from the studios.
> >
> >     You can find out who manages licensing for any specific film
> >     online on sites such as:
> >     http://www.mplc.org/index/worldwide
> >
> >     They will have a variety of licenses depending on the use, the
> >     size of the venue, and duration of the use. They will have
> >     standard rates. You can always talk or correspond with them,
> >     describe your use as "educational" and limited to small clips, and
> >     that you are non-profit - they can reduce fees or even grant the
> >     license without fees at their discretion.
> >
> >     So this means doing a little online research, actually
> >     communicating, and seeing what response you get.
> >
> >     But, the rights agencies, as many on here have seen from the music
> >     PRO's (Performing Rights Organizations, e.g. BMI, ASCAP, etc) will
> >     be aggressive and contact museums and even tiny venues to pressure
> >     them for yearly fees on music that is in copyright. So just
> >     because it is a small film clip or music off a CD and you don't
> >     think any of these agencies will bother, they will.
> >
> >     Again, there is a lot out there in the public domain and in
> >     creative commons that you can find and use creatively. You just
> >     have to have an intern or staff member who is good online to find
> >     things that may creatively contribute to your exhibition concepts
> >     and ideas.
> >
> >     Cheers!
> >     Dave
> >
> >     David Harvey
> >     Senior Conservator and Museum Consultant
> >     Los Angeles CA
> >
> >     PS - If someone is interested in having an entertainment lawyer
> >     for an AAM session or panel let me know - I have friends in the
> >     business :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >     On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Randy Little
> >     <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> >
> >         They don't have to sue you they can just send a bill and there
> >         is NO
> >         ABANDONED works rule.  You would also need to document your
> >         search for
> >         the artist if it was.    KNOWLY VIOLATING COPYRIGHT is a MIN
> >         $150,000
> >         per instance.   You don't want to have to ask for forgiveness
> >         when the
> >         price is that high.
> >         Randy S. Little
> >         http://www.rslittle.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >         On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 08:34, Guy Hermann
> >         <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> >         > Robin--
> >         >
> >         > I'd have to mostly agree with Tod, better safe than sorry.
> >         >
> >         > This is a case where "it is easier to ask forgiveness than
> >         to get
> >         > permission" definitely does not apply as it is relatively
> >         easy to ask
> >         > permission. Getting permission may just require a letter
> >         describing what you
> >         > want to show, how you want to show it, the context of how it
> >         will be shown
> >         > (major screen in exhibit run continuously/12" screen in an
> >         interactive seen
> >         > occasionally), and the number of people you estimate will
> >         see it. They will
> >         > reply (maybe) with either permission to use it as you
> >         describe, denying
> >         > permission, or requesting a fee for the use. The fee will
> >         vary mostly based
> >         > on how many people will see it.
> >         >
> >         > The studios zealously protect their copyrights, but are
> >         unlikely to sue a
> >         > public organization for using a short clip without
> >         permission, but cease and
> >         > desist letters are still very scary.
> >         >
> >         > Good luck,
> >         >
> >         > Guy
> >         >
> >         > On Apr 12, 2012, at 10:19 AM, Tod Hopkins wrote:
> >         >
> >         > This is absolutely not "Fair Use," the exception which
> >         loosely includes some
> >         > "educational" uses.  What you are doing would be considered
> >         "public
> >         > exhibition" and even liberal interpretations of Fair Use do
> >         not include
> >         > public exhibition.
> >         >
> >         > Unless the movie is in the "public domain," you need to get
> >         clearance from
> >         > someone.  If you cannot locate a valid rights holder, you
> >         might consider it
> >         > "abandoned" until someone makes a claim.  Unless your copy
> >         is an artifact
> >         > than edition you are playing IS potentially copyrighted,
> >         even if the
> >         > original movie is in the public domain, something people
> >         generally forget.
> >         >
> >         > You can be sued no matter what.  Fair Use is a "defense" in
> >         court.  It does
> >         > not prevent you from being sued.  Truth is, you would most
> >         likely get a
> >         > simple cease and desist letter first.  But that's not
> >         necessary.  They can
> >         > just send you a bill.
> >         >
> >         > Cheers,
> >         >               tod
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > On Apr 10, 2012, at 4:49 PM, Robin Gabriel wrote:
> >         >
> >         > If one uses short clips of old movies in an exhibition does
> >         one need to pay
> >         > some sort of royalty or does this fall under the educational
> >         use part of the
> >         > copyright laws?
> >         >
> >         > Thanks,
> >         > Robin
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > ************
> >         > Robin Gabriel
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> Date:    Fri, 13 Apr 2012 08:45:10 -0400
> From:    "Tenuth, Jeff" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Cataloging maps
>
> Even if you have no acquisition information on some of your maps, you can
> still catalog them.  I would recommend using the latest edition of The
> Revised Nomenclature, published by the AASLH Press.  Maps would fall under
> Category 8-Communication Artifacts, Subcategory-Documentary Artifacts.
>  They also should have accession numbers assigned to them unless you are
> keeping them just as reference or educational artifacts where their long
> term care is not the top priority.  If you don't know when you acquired
> them, then start with accession numbers for this year and note in your
> database that they were acquired previously.  Most databases will allow you
> to describe the object according to certain standards defined within the
> database.  "Note" sections within the database will allow you to expand the
> information as needed.  Map data should include map subject, dimensions,
> made by, when it was made, condition, measurements, etc.
>
> Jeff Tenuth
> Natural History Collection Manager
> Indiana State Museum
> 650 W. Washington Street
> Indianapolis, IN 46204
> [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
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> From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Teen
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2012 1:29 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Cataloging maps
>
> We are beginning the task of creating access to our map collection.  Can
> anyone recommend sources to help us develop our procedure for cataloging
> this collection?  Most of the maps have no accession numbers.  Some have
> not information as to source, date, etc.
> Thanks.
>
> Teen Peterson
> Collections Manager
> Amelia Island Museum History
> 233 S. 3rd Street
> Fernandina Beach, FL 32034
> Phone: (904) 261-7378, x. 104
> Fax: (904) 261-9701
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> Date:    Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:54:57 -0400
> From:    Elise Kordis <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Collections Manager/Registrar Position at the Miami County Museum
> Peru, IN
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> The Miami County Historical Society Inc. is seeking to fill a Collections
> Manager/Registrar position at the Miami County Museum in Peru, Indiana.
> Please see job description below and send your (1) cover letter, (2)
> resume,
> and (3) three references to Elise Kordis, Director/Curator at
> [log in to unmask] by April 30th.
>
>
>
> MIAMI COUNTY MUSEUM COLLECTIONS MANAGER/REGISTRAR JOB DESCRIPTION
>
>
>
> Reports to:              Director/Curator
>
> Status:                      Exempt
>
>
> Funding:                  Miami County
>
> Review:                    Annually
>
> Hours:                      Tuesday through Saturday 9 am to 5 pm (with 1
> hour lunch)
>
>
>
> POSITION SUMMARY:
>
>
>
>                                The Collections Manager/Registrar is
> responsible for accurately creating and maintaining the accession records
> for the Museum's collection and for the creation and management of
> documents
> and records related to the collection, including loan/temporary
> collections.
> Conducts and oversees inventory control, including collections in storage
> or
> on exhibit, and those on loan.  Recommends policies and procedures related
> to areas of responsibility and implement those approved; and is responsible
> for the proper care, handling and movement of all objects as well as risk
> management for the collections.  Assists in managing educational programs
> and outreach; participates in exhibit development; and other duties and
> responsibilities as needed.
>
>
>
> ESSENTIAL DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITES:
>
>
>
> Registration/Collections Management
>
>
> Create and maintain accurate and complete collection records, including
> accession, deaccession, receipts, deeds of gift, catalog cards and files,
> donor files, exhibition files, loan and estate files, condition reports,
> location files (permanent and loan); responsible for scheduling and
> completing inventories of the collection.  Oversee the processing of new
> acquisitions, including archives, from beginning to end.  Maintain bound
> hard copies of collection catalog and card catalog.
>
> .         Responsible for collection storage spaces being neat, clean and
> organized as well as providing safe access to objects in storage to staff,
> volunteers and visiting scholars, as required. Monitors condition of
> collection and loan objects and movement of collection within the building.
>
>
> .         Oversee all in-coming and out-going loans.  Process loan forms,
> receipts, loan request forms and create and manage files.  Act as liaison
> with borrower/lender.  Complete thorough condition reports on all in-coming
> and out-going objects.  Responsible for appropriate packing of all loaned
> object and coordinate their transportation as required.  Act as courier if
> necessary.
>
> .         Coordinate all in-coming and out-going exhibitions.  Provide for
> the proper handling, packing, crating, transport, and insurance of
> exhibitions.
>
> .         Update and implement all collection management policies and
> collection-related forms, as needed.
>
> .         Conduct and maintain periodic physical inventory of collections
> and ensures on a regular basis that inventory is current.
>
> .         Maintain collection database and ensures data integrity; run
> status reports as needed.
>
> .         Reconcile past registration numbers with proper registration
> practices in consultation with the Director/Curator.
>
>
>
> Curatorial/Exhibits
>
>
> .         Provide assistance for exhibitions, as assigned.
>
> .         Identify and catalog pertinent data on new acquisitions and
> research information to complete the existing catalog.
>
> .         Provide Director/Curator with a monthly report including a list
> of
> collections accessioned and entered into the computer data base, as well as
> collections slated for deaccession.
>
> .         Assist staff and visitors in securing collection, donor and
> source
> information and documentation.
>
>
>
> Education/Outreach
>
> .         Maintain an inventory of the education collection.
>
> .         Provide regular articles for the Society newsletter.
>
> .         Provide presentations to service organizations, schools and other
> interested parties when requested.
>
> .         Assist Director/Curator in coordinating museum functions and
> special events.
>
>
>
> Stewardship
>
> .         Act as "guardian" for the Museum's collection, which is held in
> Public Trust.
>
>
>
> Attendance
>
> .         Museum hours are Tuesday through Saturday, 9:00 am to 5:00 pm,
> with one hour lunch break.
>
> .         Expected to be present for all special events/development
> functions unless otherwise arranged with the Director/Curator and may be
> assigned to work in a capacity alternate to that defined above.
>
>
>
> REQUIRED EDUCATION, EXPERIENCE, AND QUALIFICATIONS:
>
> .         Bachelor's degree, Master's preferred, in Museum Studies, Public
> History, History, Art History, Anthropology or comparable experience in a
> related field.
>
> .         Knowledge of Indiana and /or Miami County history is a plus.
>
> .         Sound knowledge of museum registration methods, cataloging,
> conservation and storage practices, legal and insurance issues, and
> procedures governing rights and reproductions.
>
> .         Ability to maintain accurate records and documents.
>
> .         Self-motivated with excellent organizational skills.
>
> .         Excellent writing and verbal skills.
>
> .         Ability to establish and maintain effective working relationships
> and to work well with others in a team environment.
>
>
>
> WORK ENVIRONMENT:
>
> .         Sitting at a desk, walking, standing, climbing stairs, hearing
> (telephone, meetings, etc.), lifting/carrying (up to 50 lbs.).
>
>
>
> SALARY:
>
> .         Annual Salary: $24,121 (as stipulated by the county, plus county
> employee benefits).
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Elise Kordis
>
> Director/Curator
>
> Miami County Museum
>
> 51 N. Broadway
>
> Peru, IN 46970
>
> (765)473-9183
>
> Fax(765)473-3880
>
>  <http://www.mcmuseum.org/> www.mcmuseum.org
>
> Facebook/Miami County Museum
>
>
>
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> Date:    Fri, 13 Apr 2012 16:04:11 +0200
> From:    "Verlag Dr. C. Müller-Straten"
>         <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Cataloging maps
>
> Hi Teen,
>
> Just a remark from the distance: I assume you know the legal difference
> between accession and documentation. You should make shure before
> documentation that you own the right to own these maps, for example to
> exclude item on loan or on so-called long-term loan. You may and should
> catalogue them, but first of all you should prove your rights of
> possession.
>
> Best
>
>
> Christian
>
>
>
> Am 13.04.2012 14:45, schrieb Tenuth, Jeff:
> >
> > Even if you have no acquisition information on some of your maps, you
> > can still catalog them.  I would recommend using the latest edition of
> > The Revised Nomenclature, published by the AASLH Press.  Maps would
> > fall under Category 8-Communication Artifacts, Subcategory-Documentary
> > Artifacts.  They also should have accession numbers assigned to them
> > unless you are keeping them just as reference or educational artifacts
> > where their long term care is not the top priority.  If you don't know
> > when you acquired them, then start with accession numbers for this
> > year and note in your database that they were acquired previously.
> > Most databases will allow you to describe the object according to
> > certain standards defined within the database.  "Note" sections within
> > the database will allow you to expand the information as needed.  Map
> > data should include map subject, dimensions, made by, when it was
> > made, condition, measurements, etc.
> >
> > Jeff Tenuth
> >
> > Natural History Collection Manager
> >
> > Indiana State Museum
> >
> > 650 W. Washington Street
> >
> > Indianapolis, IN 46204
> >
> > [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> >
> > *From:*Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > *On Behalf Of *Teen
> > *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2012 1:29 PM
> > *To:* [log in to unmask]
> > *Subject:* [MUSEUM-L] Cataloging maps
> >
> > We are beginning the task of creating access to our map collection.
> > Can anyone recommend sources to help us develop our procedure for
> > cataloging this collection?  Most of the maps have no accession
> > numbers.  Some have not information as to source, date, etc.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > /Teen Peterson/
> >
> > Collections Manager
> >
> > Amelia Island Museum History
> >
> > 233 S. 3rd Street
> >
> > Fernandina Beach, FL 32034
> >
> > Phone: (904) 261-7378, x. 104
> >
> > Fax: (904) 261-9701
> >
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> Date:    Fri, 13 Apr 2012 13:38:23 -0500
> From:    Helen Alten <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Care of Archaeological Artifacts from the Field to the Lab online
> course starts May 7
>
> MS215: Care of Archaeological Artifacts from the Field to the Lab
> Instructors: Diana Komejan
> Price: $475
> Dates: May 7 through June 1, 2012
> Location: online at www.museumclasses.org
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> Description:
> Archaeological finds come out of the ground fragile - and they often
> stay that way. Yet archaeologists and museum professionals have few
> clear guidelines for handling, moving, storing and displaying such
> materials. Participants in Care of Archaeological Artifacts From the
> Field to the Lab learn techniques for safely lifting and packing
> artifacts, safe transportation and temporary and permanent storage. The
> course also covers a broad range of excavation environments, including
> the Arctic, wet sites, tropical and temperate. Though Care of
> Archaeological Artifacts is not intended to train archaeological
> conservators, it is designed to help participants understand what can
> and can't be done to save the artifacts they unearth.
>
> Logistics:
> Participants in Care of Archaeological Artifacts work through sections
> at their own pace. Instructor Diana Komejan is available for scheduled
> email support. Materials and resources include online literature, slide
> lectures and dialog between students and online chats led by the
> instructor. The course is limited to 20 participants.
>
> Archaeological Collections Care runs four weeks. To reserve a spot in
> the course, please pay at http://www.collectioncare.org/tas/tas.html If
> you have trouble please contact Helen Alten at [log in to unmask]
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> The Instructor:
> Diana Komejan graduated from Sir Sandford Fleming College in 1980 with a
> diploma in Art Conservation Techniques. She has worked as a conservator
> with Parks Canada at the Fortress of Louisbourg National Historic Site
> in Nova Scotia and the Halifax conservation lab, where she worked on
> archaeological and historic artifacts from across east coast Canada.
> Diana also interned at the Kelsey Museum of Ancient and Medieval History
> in Ann Arbor, Mich. and spent 12 years as conservator with the Yukon
> Government in Whitehorse. In addition to lab treatments, Diana has broad
> archaeological experience, including the excavation of mammoths and
> dinosaur tracks. Diana now operates a private conservation business.
>
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> Brad Bredehoft for Helen Alten
> Northern States Conservation Center
> www.collectioncare.org
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