before anyone has a fit, we know each other, and I'm sure he didn't mean
to send this to the list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Lauri L. Bartlema
Curatorial Assistant
Conservation Division
Directorate of Environment
Fort Bliss, Texas

> ----------
> From:         Arthur H. Harris[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Reply To:     Museum discussion list
> Sent:         Wednesday, November 18, 1998 7:52 AM
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      Re: experience
>
> Gosh--all this intelligence coming out of a _used_ brain!  (Clarify,
> if you will--according to modern practice, "used" is no longer
> used--instead, things are "pre-owned"--does this go for female
> brains?)
>
> "Bartlema, Lauri, L." wrote:
> >
> > Educational requirements ARE ratcheting higher and higher, but not
> just
> > in the Museum-job world.  It's popping up everywhere.  My mother is
> a
> > nurse, and has been a nurse for many years.  She has a Bachelors in
> > nursing.  She has worked for the same city institution for YEARS,
> yet
> > they have just decided that they will no longer hire any nurses that
> do
> > not have a Masters in nursing. And that all their current nurses
> must
> > earn a Masters, in their own copious spare time, by the year 2002,
> or
> > they will be let go.  This is one instance where experience matters
> not
> > a bit.
> >
> > I personally think that in a society where more and more people are
> > going straight to college after high school, there has been created
> a
> > pool of "higher educated" people for companies to choose from.
> Since
> > more and more people are getting more education, the
> > companies/institutions can and have raised their expectations as far
> as
> > the requirements of entry level and higher positions are concerned.
> > What most haven't raised is their salary rate.  I agree with the
> people
> > who have stated that as long as there are people who are willing to
> work
> > for the ridiculously low wages, then the wages will not go up, at
> least
> > not until the Federal Govt forces them up with an increase in
> minimum
> > wage. In my opinion, this goes on the list of "sad but true" things.
> >
> > Lauri L. Bartlema
> > Curatorial Assistant
> > Conservation Division
> > Directorate of Environment
> > Fort Bliss, Texas
> >
> > > ----------
> > > From:         E.J. Karetny[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Reply To:     Museum discussion list
> > > Sent:         Tuesday, November 17, 1998 4:21 PM
> > > To:   [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject:      Re: experience
> > >
> > > ok, say you have a master's but not in museum studies and youre
> > > looking
> > > for work in natural history, say collections.  you have a little
> > > experience as a curatorial assistant.  is this "enough" experience
> (at
> > > the very very least shows experience and interest or
> something...)?
> > > would you benefit from yet another academic debt with a master in
> > > museum
> > > studies?  when everyone ends up with this degre, what will they
> demand
> > > of you next?
> > > this is not meant to sound bitter but i'm just getting the feeling
> > > that
> > > the educational requirements are ratcheting higher and higher.
> > >
> > > looking forward to responses, ejk
> > >
>
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