This is indeed an excellent list of preparations, etc. I have one question:
is it still appropriate to send a follow-up, post-interview thank you type
note to the person who conducted the interview? I usually do this but
perhaps it's now considered too old fashioned.
Thanks,
Loretta L.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kennedy Hickman" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 11:52 AM
Subject: Applicant Interview Advice
> There have been several postings of late from job applicants expressing
> their frustration with the job market and the interview process. With the
> job market as it is at this time, there are a number of factors that
> prospective applicants need to keep in mind. Many of these have been
> previously stated by those posting to this list, but to sum them up:
>
> 1) Basic/Minimum Requirements: When an prospective applicant reads
through
> these for an opening, make sure that you not only meet them, but exceed
> them. With the market as tight as it is, when an opening lists that a
"BA"
> is required, the job will usually be filled by someone with a "MA" or
> better. Be aware of this, and if you just graduated with a "BA",
understand
> that most museum jobs will require graduate training. The only way to
avoid
> this is if you have prior experience as a paid museum employee. If you do
> not meet the basic requirements, you should not apply, as it will be a
waste
> of time and money on the part of all concerned.
>
> 2) Informational Visit: Don't be afraid to make an informational visit
to
> the institution. While distance might not make this possible, it does
help.
> If the person reviewing your application has a face and experience to
attach
> to your name it may add to your chances of getting an interview.
Likewise,
> it will allow you "flush" out your application and give a bit more
> information about yourself than is contained in your resume. Getting to
> meet a potential interviewer beforehand also is a potential advantage, as
> you will be able to get a handle on their personality and interests. It
was
> very helpful to be able to walk into my last interview and say "Good
morning
> XXXX, good to see you again."
>
> 3) Preparing for the Interview: Should you get an interview, be prepared.
> Learn all you can about the museum, its history, current exhibits, and
> focus. Show that you've done your research and are knowledgeable about
> their institution. Answer their questions, don't talk around them or try
to
> bluff your way through. It's obvious when an applicant is doing so.
> Lastly, the ultimate cliché: Be yourself, show what you can bring to the
> position, and why you're the right choice.
>
> 4) Following Up: At the end of you interview, inquire as whether or not
any
> timetable has been set for filling the position. If they say that they
hope
> to have a decision in two weeks, then *wait* the specified time. If it
> passes and you have not heard, call to inquire. Do this no more than once
a
> week until you have an answer. Do not contact the museum so frequently
that
> it becomes harassing. If they don't give you a timetable, then wait at
> least ten days before making contact. As annoying as it is, you just need
> to wait and bide you time. For my last job offer, I was told two weeks
and
> it ended up being closer to five.
>
> 5) Who You Know: As aggravating as it can be, the museum world is a
> relatively tight-knit community, and who you know can play a role in
landing
> a position. If you have contacts that could help you, use them as your
> references, and mention them as necessary. As a previous posting stated,
> walking into an interview and saying, "Suzy Somebody told me that I should
> contact you..." can mean a lot, and I agree. I have to admit my contacts
> have assisted me in the past when looking for jobs. If you feel that you
> lack contacts, a good way to build a network is by attending conferences.
> These need not be large ones, such as AAM or AASLH, smaller regional
> meetings such as MAAM and SMA (here in the Mid-Atlantic) work nicely as
> well--while also providing a slightly more informal, inviting atmosphere
for
> first-time conference attendees.
>
> I realize that frustration with the job market and hiring process is a
> frequent issue on this list, but keeping the above in mind has worked for
> me. I've been out of grad school (MA '00, U of Del. History/Museum
Studies)
> two years and have landed two positions as the curator at small to
> medium-sized museums. Good luck to everyone who is scrounging through job
> listings.
>
> Ken Hickman
> Curator/Historian
> USS Constellation Museum
> Baltimore, MD
>
>
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> > 1. <No subject given>
> > 2. Legal Responsibilities of Researching Provenance
> > 3. German Chancellor Scholarship program
> > 4. To Those in the Profession Who Hire (5)
> > 5. An Employer's Thoughts on Hiring (3)
> > 6. Applications and such (6)
> > 7. Hourly pay rate for research position (3)
> > 8. email mailing list software (2)
> > 9. RENTAL RATES AND MUSEUM ADMISSION (2)
> > 10. Museum Quality Mannequins (4)
> > 11. Museum Quality Mannequins.....
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> > 15. museum mannequins
> > 16. speadsheets and mail merge - was To Those in the Profession Who
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 00:14:51 -0400
> > From: kupdegra <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: <No subject given>
> >
> > I have two very large Oriental Silk Paintings I was given as a gift that
> until
> > recently have been sitting in my basement collecting dust because I did
> not
> > know what do with. Now I've decided I want to display them, the problem
is
> > they received water damage on part of the silk matting. Where should I
> take
> > them to, or can I, or is there something I can do myself to remove the
> water
> > marks?
> >
> > Thank You
> > Kary Updegraff
> >
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:32:42 +1000
> > From: Chris Doerr <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Legal Responsibilities of Researching Provenance
> >
> > I am currently looking at the legal responsibilities of cultural
> > institutions to research provenance on objects to be accessioned. I'm
> > aware of standards and protocols for Holocaust-era acquisitions but I
> > wonder if anyone can point me in the direction of information or
> > resources that address this matter for non-contested materials or share
> > information about your specific institution's procedures.
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
> > chris
> >
> > Master of Arts Administration
> > University of New South Wales
> > Sydney, Australia
> >
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> > Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 11:27:29 -0500
> > From: Crystal Johnson <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: German Chancellor Scholarship program
> >
> > American and Russian museum professionals who wish to learn more about
how
> > museums work in Germany might like to know about the German Chancellor
> > Scholarship program (see below). The Alexander von Humboldt Foundation
is
> > currently sponsoring two museums professionals during their fellowship
> year
> > in Germany. If you would like to know more about the program, visit
> > www.humboldt-foundation.de or email me off-list.
> >
> > Crystal Johnson
> > 2002 German Chancellor Scholar
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> >
> > ____________________
> > What About Germany?
> >
> > Alexander von Humboldt Foundation
> > German Chancellor Scholarship Program
> >
> > Ten German Chancellor Scholarships are awarded annually to highly
> motivated
> > individuals in the private, public, not-for-profit, cultural and
academic
> > sectors. The program sponsors individuals who demonstrate the potential
to
> > strengthen ties between Germany and the United States through their
> > profession or studies.
> >
> > The scholarship provides for a stay of one year in Germany for
> professional
> > development, study, or research. Applicants design individual projects
> > tailored to their professional development and goals and decide at which
> > institutions to pursue them. Successful candidates have come from such
> > fields as business, government, social and policy sciences, law,
> journalism,
> > communications, management, finance, economics, architecture, public
> > service, humanities, arts and environmental affairs.
> >
> > The program begins September 1 and lasts twelve months. It is preceded
in
> > August by language classes taught in Germany. The monthly stipends range
> > from EUR 2,000 to EUR 3,500 and special allowances are available for
> > accompanying family members, travel expenses, and German language
> > instruction. Candidates must be United States citizens, possess a
> bachelor's
> > degree by the start of the award, and should be under 35 years old.
> Command
> > of German is not a prerequisite.
> >
> > Applications and information can be found on the foundation's web site
or
> > may be obtained from the U.S. Liaison Office.
> >
> > http://www.humboldt-foundation.de/en/programme/stip_aus/buka.htm
> >
> > Alexander von Humboldt Foundation
> > U.S. Liaison Office
> > 1012 14th Street NW, Suite 301
> > Washington, DC 20005
> >
> > Phone: (202) 783-1907 Fax: (202) 783-1908
> > E-Mail: [log in to unmask]
> > Web: www.humboldt-foundation.de
> >
> > Application deadline for 2003-2004 awards: October 31, 2002
> >
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> > ------------------------------
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:03:48 -0400
> > From: Timothy Wade <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: To Those in the Profession Who Hire
> >
> > I know all too well that feeling of sending applications off into the
> > void. Several times with jobs that I have strongly desired I have called
> > three or four weeks after to see if they even had my application and
where
> > the process was. Too forward? I don't know, but sitting around waiting
for
> > something to happen was just unbearable.
> >
> > Unfortunatly I've had scant nibbles for any kind of job offerings...so
> > I've decided to go back to school and attempt my PhD in plain old
history.
> > I really feel that I have a lot to offer the museum profession, and
maybe
> > down the road after I've had a bit more life experience I'll be able to
> > find a job. For now I must do something, and back to school it is.
> >
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:13:21 -0500
> > From: "Jon N. Austin" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: An Employer's Thoughts on Hiring
> >
> > Indigo,
> >
> > Well said. Those of us in positions to hire staff need gentle reminders
> > every so often. However, I believe that applicants also need
instruction,
> > which apparently isn't offered in school, as you suggested.
> >
> > I've seen too many young applicants express their frustration on this
list
> > over their inability to obtain employment in museums, and I've suspected
> > that the problem may lie at the beginning of the process with the
> > applicant's approach and a mis-matching of the applicant and the
position.
> > I've offered the same advice off-list to others based on fifteen years'
> > experience hiring staff to work in small, local history museums. I,
too,
> > was faced with the same frustrations after grad school at age
twenty-five,
> > saying, "I can do THAT!" when I had nothing to back it up other than my
> own
> > self-confidence. Applicants need to set themselves up for success
rather
> > than for failure.
> >
> > First, please read the job posting carefully. As a potential employer,
> > I've identified my institution's needs and resources, and I've crafted a
> > summary of the responsibilities associated with the position. Through
> > experience, I've determined the types of skills that I need in the new
> > hire. I've identified the type of personality that will integrate with
> > other members of our team. Candidates, please don't apply if you don't
> > meet the minimums (education, skills, AND experience) on the off-chance
> > that no one else is applying. While your enthusiasm is apparent, it
will
> > not compensate for a lack of experience or skill. You may be convinced
> > that you can handle the job, but when comparing your material with
others
> I
> > receive, you quickly fall to the bottom of the stack. In a small
> > institution especially, I need staff who can hit the ground running
> because
> > I've been without a key staff member usually for a matter of months. If
> > you lack appropriate experience, be creative and get some; you'll
probably
> > have to volunteer. In this day and age, your summer internship may not
be
> > competitive.
> >
> > If I ask for a resume, please don't send six pages. If I ask for the
> names
> > and telephone numbers, please don't send me six photocopied letters plus
> > transcripts. Don't send me a photograph of yourself. If I ask for a
> > writing sample, please make sure that your grammar and typing skills
will
> > impress me rather than undermine your chances. Follow-up calls are
> > appropriate, but they can become annoying if placed too frequently.
Dear
> > applicant, please know that as the employer I'm reviewing scores of
> resumes
> > and can only select a limited number of prospects to consider seriously,
> > hoping that I've selected the person with the right "fit" for my
> > institution.
> >
> > When we get to the interview stage, please don't be late; also, don't be
> an
> > hour early. Dress in a manner appropriate for the position and its
level
> > of public contact. Do your homework; take time to read the material
that
> > I've sent you. I'm investing time in you, and I expect the same in
> return.
> >
> > I hope that the above offers some insight to applicants to assist them
in
> > their job search.
> >
> > Jon N. Austin, Director
> > Museum of Funeral Customs
> > 1440 Monument Avenue
> > Springfield, Illinois 62702
> >
> > 217-544-3480
> > 217-544-3484 (fax)
> > www.FuneralMuseum.org
> >
> > The Museum operates under the auspices of the Illinois Funeral Directors
> > Association and the Illinois Funeral Service Foundation, a 501 (c) 3
> > non-profit corporation.
> >
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> > ------------------------------
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:58:24 -0400
> > From: Timothy Wade <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Applications and such
> >
> > I'm about to send out another round of applications...I was considering
> > sending a stamped, addressed postcard along so any HR can drop it in the
> > mail and let me know what my status is. I had one musuem that had a
> > pre-printed card and two check boxes - considered for hiring or not. I
> > didn't care how informal, I could stop wondering and worrying.
> >
> > I actually once had a former professor of mine interview me for a
> > position. I called three weeks later to find the status, and after
> > speaking with them personally, waited another three weeks to find out
they
> > had filled the poisition and "forgot" to let me know.. Above all else I
> > was hurt at their lack of communication - after all, this was one of the
> > professors that taught me about Musuem/Archives management and dealing
> > with the public!
> >
> >
> > But this is not limited to the museum world...in the past year I've sent
> > many a resume out and heard nothing. At least most offices with the
State
> > of Florida send an automated letter out. Sometimes I'll get them months
> > after, but at least I know someone is listening!
> >
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:08:51 -0500
> > From: Jay Heuman <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: An Employer's Thoughts on Hiring
> >
> > Dear John & All:
> >
> > I appreciate the candor of John's message. Almost everything John wrote
> > is bang on, based on my experience as a frustrated applicant. ~frown~
> > The only suggestion that is heart-felt, I'm sure, but not helpful in
> > reality is:
> >
> > > If you lack appropriate experience, be creative and get some;
> > > you'll probably have to volunteer.
> >
> > As someone with 10+ years as a volunteer in various areas of museum
> > (curatorial, collections, education, etc.) and now a 'professional'
> > (read: paid) a volunteer coordinator )amongst many a hat I wear at
> > work), I can toss in my two cents.
> >
> > Volunteering will give you a clue if this is really the line of work for
> > you. BUT, it is most likely that volunteering only counts if other
> > applicants for the same position have NO relevant paid museum employment
> > on their resumes/CVs. Relevant paid museum employment always wins.
> > Volunteering can move you to a better museum or to better duties . . .
> > still as a volunteer. (Rarely does volunteering translate into a job.)
> > And, of course, some people enjoy being 'professional volunteers' --
> > supporting themselves financially by other means.
> >
> > Today, as people with MAs and PhDs are hired to perform jobs advertised
> > for a minimum requirement of a BA, with a glut of qualified people, and
> > not enough jobs around, those with enthusiasm, a degree (or two), and
> > some volunteer experience stand little chance . . .
> >
> > Frustrated? You bet.
> >
> > Giving up? NO WAY!
> >
> > That's my two cents . . .
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Jay Heuman
> >
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:22:01 -0700
> > From: Adrienne DeAngelis <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Applications and such
> >
> > I'd suggest sending out applications/resumes via registered,
> > return-receipt request mail. That way at least you'd have a record that
> > they actually received your application.
> > By the bye, I wonder how important it is that many states have a
> > "Sunshine Law" whereby all applications are to be made public? Wouldn't
> > this law make non-responses if not against the law, at least publically
> > shameful?
> >
> > Adrienne DeAngelis
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, Timothy Wade wrote:
> >
> > > I'm about to send out another round of applications...I was
considering
> > > sending a stamped, addressed postcard along so any HR can drop it in
the
> > > mail and let me know what my status is. I had one musuem that had a
> > > pre-printed card and two check boxes - considered for hiring or not. I
> > > didn't care how informal, I could stop wondering and worrying.
> > >
> >
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:56:44 -0700
> > From: Kimberly Kenney <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Hourly pay rate for research position
> >
> > A small local museum contacted me inquiring about an
> > appropriate hourly wage for a part time "Historical
> > Research and Development Consultant." The candidate
> > has a master's degree and will be doing exhibit and
> > research work for about 5-7 hours per week. I told
> > them I had a wonderful network of museum professionals
> > that I could tap for a "going rate" for him.
> >
> > Any suggestions??????
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > =====
> > **********************************
> > Kimberly A. Kenney
> > Curator
> > McKinley Museum
> > 800 McKinley Monument Dr. NW
> > Canton OH 44708
> > 330-455-7043
> >
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:55:49 -0500
> > From: mary jo <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: email mailing list software
> >
> > Hi, we are looking to upgrade our e-mail list software. I'd be
interested
> > in hearing about what programs you use and what you like/dislike about
> them.
> >
> > In particular, I'm looking for something that will run on a mac that
will
> > also let you insert pictures into the body of the email?
> >
> > Any information would be appreciated!
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Mary Jo
> >
> >
> >
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:53:27 -0500
> > From: "English, Susan" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: RENTAL RATES AND MUSEUM ADMISSION
> >
> > I am in the process of trying to put together a rental policy for our
> > museum. I was wondering how other museums handle museum admissions and
> > rentals. Do you give a discounted per person rate to groups renting a
> room
> > in the museum? Also, how do you handle groups which want you to provide
> > tours during non-museum hours? Do you charge a flat rental rate or a
per
> > person charge?
> >
> > We will be offering room rentals during museum operating hours and after
> > hours. Our museum is adjacent to a catering facility so there will be
> > groups who may want to visit the museum during off hours but are not
> > renting space in the museum.
> >
> > Any suggestions would be great.
> >
> > Susan English
> > Joliet Area Historical Museum
> >
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 10:42:37 -0500
> > From: Janice Klein <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: To Those in the Profession Who Hire
> >
> > As much as I try to respond to the unsolicited resumes and inquiries
about
> > job openings I am not always able to get the "I'm sorry we have no
> openings
> > at this time" letter out in a timely way. The ones that tend to go to
the
> > bottom of the pile are those from applicants who appear not to have done
> > much background research -- even looking at the Museum Directory or our
> > website -- and ask about positions that are unlikely to exist in a
museum
> > with only two permanent staff members (no, we do not have a development
> > "staff" or an exhibit design "department") and a visitation of 11,000,
or
> do
> > not have any experience with the subject matter of the collection.
> >
> > I'm also more likely to respond if there is a request for an
informational
> > meeting ("I know you may not have any jobs open at this time, but I
would
> > very much appreciate having a chance to meet with you and see the
Museum")
> > and, for those with very limited experience, a suggestion that they
might
> be
> > willing to volunteer or work on a short term project.
> >
> > Membership in professional organizations helps and (sorry to reinforce
the
> > "it's who you know", but since I have been around for a while I may
> actually
> > know one of your instructors or someone you worked with) a personal
> > reference, even in the form of "Mary Sue suggested I contact you" also
> gets
> > my attention.
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > janice
> >
> > Janice Klein
> > Chair, SMAC-AAM
> > Director, The Mitchell Museum of the American Indian, Kendall College
> > [log in to unmask]
> > www.mitchellmuseum.org
> >
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:59:37 -0400
> > From: Jason Aikens <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Museum Quality Mannequins
> >
> > Does anybody know where I can get museum quality mannequins? I know of
> > Dorfman museum figures but are there others?
> >
> > Thank You
> >
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:06:09 -0400
> > From: Tammy Espaillat <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Museum Quality Mannequins.....
> >
> > ATTA Inc, in New York City.
> > They make amazing life like museum figures. The address is
> > 450 West 31st Street, New York, NY 10001
> > 212-295-7763
> > You can speak to Karen Atta. She's very easy to work with.
> >
> > Good Luck,
> >
> > --
> > Tammy Espaillat
> > Just Plastics
> > 250 Dyckman Street
> > New York, NY 10034
> > Tel - 212-569-8500
> > Fax - 212-569-6970
> > Site- www.justplastics.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > on 9/11/02 1:59 PM, Jason Aikens at [log in to unmask] wrote:
> >
> > > Does anybody know where I can get museum quality mannequins? I know
of
> > > Dorfman museum figures but are there others?
> > >
> > > Thank You
> > >
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:50:07 -0500
> > From: Catherine Ricciardelli <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: RENTAL RATES AND MUSEUM ADMISSION
> >
> > Please look at our website www.terramuseum.org under "about the Museum"
> > to see an example of our rates and use policy. Our Marketing depatment
> > can provide you with more information.
> >
> >
> > Cathy Ricciardelli
> > Director, Exhibitions & Collections Services
> > Terra Museum of American Art
> > 664 N. Michigan Avenue
> > Chicago, IL 61606
> > tel: 312-654-2244
> > fax: 312-944-0639
> > email: [log in to unmask]
> >
> > >>> [log in to unmask] 09/11/02 12:53PM >>>
> > I am in the process of trying to put together a rental policy for our
> > museum. I was wondering how other museums handle museum admissions
> > and
> > rentals. Do you give a discounted per person rate to groups renting a
> > room
> > in the museum? Also, how do you handle groups which want you to
> > provide
> > tours during non-museum hours? Do you charge a flat rental rate or a
> > per
> > person charge?
> >
> > We will be offering room rentals during museum operating hours and
> > after
> > hours. Our museum is adjacent to a catering facility so there will be
> > groups who may want to visit the museum during off hours but are not
> > renting space in the museum.
> >
> > Any suggestions would be great.
> >
> > Susan English
> > Joliet Area Historical Museum
> >
> > =========================================================
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> > ------------------------------
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:08:07 -0400
> > From: Wesley Creel <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: museum quality mannequins
> >
> > Good Afternoon,
> > If you are looking for figures, rather than mannequins (usually
mannequins
> > wear historic costumes/artifacts); I would suggest that you contact
Studio
> > EIS in New York, NY.
> > Their website is www.studioeis.com
> > I have used them in the past and they do very good work, especially life
> > casts.
> > Wesley S. Creel
> > Administrator of Programs and Interim Director of Museums
> > Pink Palace Family of Museums
> > Memphis, Tennessee
> > www.memphismuseums.org
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:16:50 -0700
> > From: John Chadwick <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: email mailing list software
> >
> > I tested Macjordomo about five or six years ago, and it worked well
> > at the time. I do not know about OS 10 support or inserting pictures,
> > but it is freeware. With OS X being based on a Unix kernel, it may be
> > only a matter of time before one of the larger vendors such as LSoft
> > or ListProc starts distributing Macintosh versions.
> >
> > Listserv does have a free version for non-profits, and if you have a
> > Win 2K box it should work and is fairly easy to configure. This can
> > be found at:
> >
> > http://www.lsoft.com/download/default.asp?item=listservliteeval
> >
> > John
> >
> > >Hi, we are looking to upgrade our e-mail list software. I'd be
> interested
> > >in hearing about what programs you use and what you like/dislike about
> them.
> > >
> > >In particular, I'm looking for something that will run on a mac that
will
> > >also let you insert pictures into the body of the email?
> > >
> > >Any information would be appreciated!
> > >Thanks!
> > >
> > >Mary Jo
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >[log in to unmask]
> > >
> > >
> > >Mattress Factory
> > >500 Sampsonia Way
> > >Pittsburgh, PA 15212-4444
> > >T: 412-231-3169
> > >F: 412-322-2231
> > >[log in to unmask]
> > >
> > >Visit the Mattress Factory online at www.mattress.org!
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > John Chadwick, Ed.D.
> > Chadwick Web Services
> > 2425 E. Baltimore St
> > Mesa, AZ 85213
> > phone: 480-890-5728
> > [log in to unmask] http://www.chadwickwebservices.com
> >
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> >
> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:01:08 -0400
> > From: National Speedskating Museum and Hall of Fame
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: To Those in the Profession Who Hire
> >
> > Please forgive my candor, however, I wonder how in this age of
> spreadsheets,
> > mail merges, and document templates, one cannot send responses to their
> > applicants, many of whom spent as much or more time on their individual
> > application as you will sending a response to all applicants.
> >
> > I will admit my naivety - I have not yet been in the position to hire
> > someone and therefore cannot speak with any certainty about the
> complexities
> > of the subject. However, I know how relatively little amount of time it
> > takes to set up a simple "We have received your application" document
> > template, create a spread sheet with applicants names and addresses,
press
> > the "Mail Merge" button on my word processor and feed a ream of paper
and
> > envelopes into the laser printer. Why then do we fuss about the amount
of
> > time needed to give applicants a clue about their status? As discussed
on
> > Museum-L a few months ago (reference my post on Tuesday, May 21, 2002
and
> > others with the subject "A reflection on employers and job seekers")
> letting
> > your applicants hang in the balance sours them on your institution and
you
> > as a professional. Remember, applicants are your future visitors,
> > contributors, volunteers, employees, employers, grant funders, and most
> > importantly colleagues.
> >
> > To borrow the current pop culture phrase: Cost of sending thank you
> letters,
> > a few hours. An applicants' relief over knowing their status, priceless.
> >
> > George Garner
> > National Speedskating Museum and Hall of Fame
> > P.O. Box 3120
> > Saratoga Springs, NY 12866
> > (518) 587-26090 // [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> > |-----Original Message-----
> > |From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
> > |Behalf Of Janice Klein
> > |Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:43 AM
> > |To: [log in to unmask]
> > |Subject: Re: To Those in the Profession Who Hire
> > |
> > |
> > |As much as I try to respond to the unsolicited resumes and
> > |inquiries about
> > |job openings I am not always able to get the "I'm sorry we
> > |have no openings
> > |at this time" letter out in a timely way. The ones that tend
> > |to go to the
> > |bottom of the pile are those from applicants who appear not to
> > |have done
> > |much background research -- even looking at the Museum Directory or our
> > |website -- and ask about positions that are unlikely to exist
> > |in a museum
> > |with only two permanent staff members (no, we do not have a development
> > |"staff" or an exhibit design "department") and a visitation of
> > |11,000, or do
> > |not have any experience with the subject matter of the collection.
> > |
> > |I'm also more likely to respond if there is a request for an
> > |informational
> > |meeting ("I know you may not have any jobs open at this time,
> > |but I would
> > |very much appreciate having a chance to meet with you and see
> > |the Museum")
> > |and, for those with very limited experience, a suggestion that
> > |they might be
> > |willing to volunteer or work on a short term project.
> > |
> > |Membership in professional organizations helps and (sorry to
> > |reinforce the
> > |"it's who you know", but since I have been around for a while
> > |I may actually
> > |know one of your instructors or someone you worked with) a personal
> > |reference, even in the form of "Mary Sue suggested I contact
> > |you" also gets
> > |my attention.
> > |
> > |Hope this helps,
> > |
> > |janice
> > |
> > |Janice Klein
> > |Chair, SMAC-AAM
> > |Director, The Mitchell Museum of the American Indian, Kendall College
> > [log in to unmask]
> > |www.mitchellmuseum.org
> > |
> >
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:07:44 -0400
> > From: "Ellerbee, Genevieve" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Museum Quality Mannequins
> >
> > Manex is a French company that sells very good museum quality mannequins
> > that are well-suited to display historic costume. We just used a bunch
> for
> > an exhibit on the evolution of children's clothing.
> >
> > http://www.manex-usa.com/
> >
> > Genevieve Ellerbee
> > Associate Registrar
> > DAR Museum
> > Washington, D.C.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jason Aikens [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 2:00 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Museum Quality Mannequins
> > >
> > > Does anybody know where I can get museum quality mannequins? I know
of
> > > Dorfman museum figures but are there others?
> > >
> > > Thank You
> > >
> >
> > =========================================================
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:35:21 -0400
> > From: "Laura C. Lieberman" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Hourly pay rate for research position
> >
> > As a consultant, I receive $75/hr for short-term projects (1-6 weeks);
for
> > an ongoing very part-time project lasting 6-9 months, I would suggest
$30.
> > However, most museums cannot afford that. Depending on the situation
> $20-25
> > might suffice. My fees are considered mid-range, and many other
> consultants
> > in Atlanta charge $125 for similar services.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kimberly Kenney" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 12:56 PM
> > Subject: Hourly pay rate for research position
> >
> >
> > > A small local museum contacted me inquiring about an
> > > appropriate hourly wage for a part time "Historical
> > > Research and Development Consultant." The candidate
> > > has a master's degree and will be doing exhibit and
> > > research work for about 5-7 hours per week. I told
> > > them I had a wonderful network of museum professionals
> > > that I could tap for a "going rate" for him.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions??????
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > =====
> > > **********************************
> > > Kimberly A. Kenney
> > > Curator
> > > McKinley Museum
> > > 800 McKinley Monument Dr. NW
> > > Canton OH 44708
> > > 330-455-7043
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:24:16 -0400
> > From: George Garner <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: To Those in the Profession Who Hire
> >
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >
> > ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01C259A7.4A6D9020
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> > charset="iso-8859-1"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > Please forgive my candor, however, I wonder how in this age of
> spreadsheets,
> > mail merges, and document templates, one cannot send responses to their
> > applicants, many of whom spent as much or more time on their individual
> > application as you will sending a response to all applicants.
> >
> > I will admit my naivety - I have not yet been in the position to hire
> > someone and therefore cannot speak with any certainty about the
> complexities
> > of the subject. However, I know how relatively little amount of time it
> > takes to set up a simple "We have received your application" document
> > template, create a spread sheet with applicants names and addresses,
press
> > the "Mail Merge" button on my word processor and feed a ream of paper
and
> > envelopes into the laser printer. Why then do we fuss about the amount
of
> > time needed to give applicants a clue about their status? As discussed
on
> > Museum-L a few months ago (reference my post on Tuesday, May 21, 2002
and
> > others with the subject "A reflection on employers and job seekers")
> letting
> > your applicants hang in the balance sours them on your institution and
you
> > as a professional. Remember, applicants are your future visitors,
> > contributors, volunteers, employees, employers, grant funders, and most
> > importantly colleagues.
> >
> > To borrow the current pop culture phrase: Cost of sending thank you
> letters,
> > a few hours. An applicants' relief over knowing their status, priceless.
> >
> > George Garner
> > National Speedskating Museum and Hall of Fame
> > P.O. Box 3120
> > Saratoga Springs, NY 12866
> > (518) 587-26090 // [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> >
> > |-----Original Message-----
> > |From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
> > |Behalf Of Janice Klein
> > |Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:43 AM
> > |To: [log in to unmask]
> > |Subject: Re: To Those in the Profession Who Hire
> > |
> > |
> > |As much as I try to respond to the unsolicited resumes and
> > |inquiries about
> > |job openings I am not always able to get the "I'm sorry we
> > |have no openings
> > |at this time" letter out in a timely way. The ones that tend
> > |to go to the
> > |bottom of the pile are those from applicants who appear not to
> > |have done
> > |much background research -- even looking at the Museum Directory or our
> > |website -- and ask about positions that are unlikely to exist
> > |in a museum
> > |with only two permanent staff members (no, we do not have a development
> > |"staff" or an exhibit design "department") and a visitation of
> > |11,000, or do
> > |not have any experience with the subject matter of the collection.
> > |
> > |I'm also more likely to respond if there is a request for an
> > |informational
> > |meeting ("I know you may not have any jobs open at this time,
> > |but I would
> > |very much appreciate having a chance to meet with you and see
> > |the Museum")
> > |and, for those with very limited experience, a suggestion that
> > |they might be
> > |willing to volunteer or work on a short term project.
> > |
> > |Membership in professional organizations helps and (sorry to
> > |reinforce the
> > |"it's who you know", but since I have been around for a while
> > |I may actually
> > |know one of your instructors or someone you worked with) a personal
> > |reference, even in the form of "Mary Sue suggested I contact
> > |you" also gets
> > |my attention.
> > |
> > |Hope this helps,
> > |
> > |Janice
> > |
> > |Janice Klein
> > |Chair, SMAC-AAM
> > |Director, The Mitchell Museum of the American Indian, Kendall College
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> > <P>Please forgive my candor, however, I wonder how in this age of =
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> > mail merges, and document templates, one cannot send responses to
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> > applicants, many of whom spent as much or more time on their
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> > application as you will sending a response to all applicants.</P>
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> > <P>To borrow the current pop culture phrase: Cost of sending thank you =
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> > <DIV>George Garner</DIV>
> > <DIV>National Speedskating Museum and Hall of Fame</DIV>
> > <DIV>P.O. Box 3120</DIV>
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> > <DIV>|Behalf Of Janice Klein</DIV>
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> > <DIV>|Subject: Re: To Those in the Profession Who Hire</DIV>
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> > <DIV>|</DIV>
> > <DIV>|As much as I try to respond to the unsolicited resumes and </DIV>
> > <DIV>|inquiries about</DIV>
> > <DIV>|job openings I am not always able to get the "I'm sorry we </DIV>
> > <DIV>|have no openings</DIV>
> > <DIV>|at this time" letter out in a timely way. The ones that tend =
> > </DIV>
> > <DIV>|to go to the</DIV>
> > <DIV>|bottom of the pile are those from applicants who appear not to =
> > </DIV>
> > <DIV>|have done</DIV>
> > <DIV>|much background research -- even looking at the Museum Directory =
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> > <DIV>|website -- and ask about positions that are unlikely to exist =
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> > <DIV>|in a museum</DIV>
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> > <DIV>|"staff" or an exhibit design "department") and a visitation of =
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> > <DIV>|11,000, or do</DIV>
> > <DIV>|not have any experience with the subject matter of the =
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> > <DIV>|I'm also more likely to respond if there is a request for an =
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> > <DIV>|informational</DIV>
> > <DIV>|meeting ("I know you may not have any jobs open at this time, =
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> > <DIV>|but I would</DIV>
> > <DIV>|very much appreciate having a chance to meet with you and see =
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> > <DIV>|the Museum")</DIV>
> > <DIV>|and, for those with very limited experience, a suggestion that =
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> > <DIV>|they might be</DIV>
> > <DIV>|willing to volunteer or work on a short term project.</DIV>
> > <DIV>|</DIV>
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> > <DIV>|reinforce the</DIV>
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> > </DIV>
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> > <DIV>|reference, even in the form of "Mary Sue suggested I contact =
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> > <DIV>|you" also gets</DIV>
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> > <DIV>|Hope this helps,</DIV>
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> > <DIV>|Janice</DIV>
> > <DIV>|</DIV>
> > <DIV>|Janice Klein</DIV>
> > <DIV>|Chair, SMAC-AAM</DIV>
> > <DIV>|Director, The Mitchell Museum of the American Indian, Kendall=20
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 12:32:18 -0700
> > From: Cecelia Ottenweller <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Museum Quality Mannequins
> >
> > Hey Jason,
> >
> > I talked to some of the project managers here - Life Formations out
> > of Wisconsin is who we use.
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Cecelia Ottenweller
> > Southwest Museum Services
> > Houston, TX
> > 713-462-7754
> >
> > --- Jason Aikens <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > Does anybody know where I can get museum quality mannequins? I
> > > know of
> > > Dorfman museum figures but are there others?
> > >
> > > Thank You
> > >
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:46:24 -0600
> > From: John Martinson <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Applications and such
> >
> > It has been said that employers have 200-400 applicants for each job and
> do
> > not have the
> > time and resources to deal with responding back to each and every
> applicant.
> > However,
> > there are the hearts and souls of the applicants, who spend hours/days
> > putting together 11 to 12 pages of answers for the required 11 to 12
> > questions that are often said to be "detailed". Then you receive a
100%
> > (plus you are a veteran so you get an additional 5%), but then you never
> > even get a call back or an interview. There is the cost of time, the
cost
> > of paper, postage (priority, UPS, etc.) the cost of envelopes,
> > printer/toner, etc. There is the time applicants takes
> > off work to fly to interviews and often many positions have you pay 1/2
> way,
> > or your hotel room, or reimburses you (months later).
> >
> > It think it is a case of "professionalism" on the part of employers.
How
> > do they want to
> > "brand" themselves as professionals? It is also called "consideration"
> and
> > ethics to me to send a reply back when I am in that position.
> >
> > Call it as you like it, but to many it is simply bad taste and rude.
> True,
> > it is not just with museums, but state jobs or any job you apply for
> today.
> > Employers have their "pick of the crop" and they can be very selective
to
> > get the right person for the position. However, in the process, they
> need
> > to hold some professionalism standards by responding back to each and
> every
> > applicant.
> >
> > If they cannot do this, they should not be advertising the job. It
should
> > be part of the budget and expense......and simply their job. If five
or
> > ten people are interviewed -- how expensive are 5 or 10 letters and
> stamps?
> > Many employers don't even respond back to those they interview, let
alone
> to
> > each and every applicant who applied.
> >
> > Personally, for me -- when I do not get an answer back it puts a big
> > "negative" in my mind about the museum or employer. Call it human
> nature.
> > Yes --- it means, it was probably the best that I did not get the
position
> > with them, if that is the way they handle their public relations.
> However,
> > I am also a possible "visitor" to their museum or business in the
future.
> > Do you think I would go there or pay an admission charge to see their
> > museum? Not on your life.
> >
> > And I am only one ~~~ what are the 400 applicants going to say
"positive"
> > about that museum or employer?
> >
> > "Hey Frank, do you know of any museums I can visits why passing through
> ZXY
> > town? I
> > heard that ZXY museum was were wanting to work in the area."
> >
> > Frank just so happened applied at ZXY museum and never heard a word back
> > from them, after he spent $200 on a flight for an interview, and hours
> > filling out their questions, cost of sending a letter overnight---with
> time
> > had $300 to $400 in costs, plus having to miss work for the interview.
> > What would Frank's response be?
> >
> > "Bob, I don't know about that museum...the staff is not to friendly
there,
> > and I heard it
> > was not that great of a museum.....not very professional in their
> standards
> > which reflects
> > badly on their exhibits and staff's attitude. My opinion of course,
take
> it
> > or leave it...but the
> > ABC museum, in the town of ABC, I heard has an excellent exhibit on
> "Humming
> > Bird Feeding"
> > that you are interested in and you don't want to miss that! Bob, too,
> their
> > staff and docents are great! In fact, I recently sent a job application
> to
> > them. And do you believe this......they responded back that they
received
> > it. Then a few weeks later, I got a call from a Board member and they
are
> > very interested in me....and I have an interview next week! They are
> paying
> > my way down on the weekend, so I will not miss any work"
> >
> > Maybe that is over-doing it..but is a form of bad and good PR museums
can
> > receive. And negative words do spread.
> >
> > IMHO, I would not like that sort of negativity to get out about the
museum
> I
> > was directing or worked. In fact, I would have the consideration to
reply
> > back to each and every applicant that applied. I'm sure ABC Museum
would
> be
> > sending out letters to those who applied for the position Frank
> interviewed
> > for.
> >
> > As I mentioned before, the applicants who apply for positions with YOUR
> > museum, could be possible donors or maybe even your boss later on in
life.
> > It is just a "win win" situation to always put your best foot forward.
> > Treat each applicant with respect..and it will return two-fold back to
> you.
> >
> > Too, when the market changes, museums and employers will be searching
for
> > good, professional people, but do you think Frank is going to want to
work
> > for you or apply for the position if it is offered again? Frank is
> likely
> > going to be working instead at ABC museum and your direct competition.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > John
> >
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:54:33 -0400
> > From: Elizabeth Walton <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Museum Quality Mannequins
> >
> > Here is a list of suppliers given at a workshop I attended with the
> Costume
> > Society of America (the editorial comments are from the list, compiled
by
> > costume professionals, not just me). There is also a recent book on
> costume
> > storage and dressing in the bookstore section of the CSA website:
> > www.costumesocietyamerica.com
> >
> > If you have some specific questions you can e-mail me and I can help
> > answer. I have dressed many many objects of varying sizes and shapes and
> > used most of these mannequins
> > -Elizabeth Walton
> > www.clothelinejournal.com
> >
> > Suppliers:
> >
> > Goldsmith Inc.
> > Long Island City, NY
> > (718)937-8476
> > fax:718-937-4525
> > (adjustable female figure only, developed for Brooklyn museum)
> >
> > pucci mannequins
> > NY
> > 212-219-0142
> > fax212-925-8542
> > (stylized male and female figures)
> >
> >
> > melvin s roos & co.
> > atlanta
> > 800-241-6897
> > (commercial display, good inexpensive source)
> >
> > Wacoal Corporation
> > makers of the "Kyoto" mannequins
> > (white fiberglass figures shaped for historical silouettes 18th cent.
> > empire and victorian)
> > (these can be wonderful, but are pricey)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From the textile conservation list serve
> >
> > "this is one of the
> > most difficult issues that comes up with small historical museums, and
> > even big ones. I don't know a simple answer, or even a brief one.
> > Sorry this reply is so long, but it's a big question.
> >
> > First of all, it's important to understand that historic dress presents
> > one of the most complex display challenges there is. You are dealing
> > with a large-ish, three-dimensional textile object that is difficult to
> > handle. A display mount needs to correctly and completely support the
> > costume, but beyond that it needs to correctly interpret the period
> > shape of the costume as well as the individual size and shape of the
> > wearer. In addition to knowledge of textiles and their properties, it's
> > necessary to understand human anatomy and have a good knowledge of
> > fashion history, period aesthetics, and period undergarments. If you
> > don't have these, even the best mannequin won't make your presentation
> > successful.
> >
> > "Museum quality" means two things to me. First, it's a question of
> > suitable materials. Foam rubber dressmakers forms are clearly not
> > museum quality, but many other materials used for mannequins are ok,
> > including fiberglass and ethafoam. Surface coatings must also be
> > considered. The other issue is that of shape - the mannequin should be
> > adjustable to adapt to different heights (although this is not true for
> > most mannequins with fixed legs), and must not have a shape that
> > conflicts with the fashionable silhouette of the costume (both men's and
> > women's). I've never found one mannequin that can adapt to all period
> > shapes so it's necessary to have a variety. Some of the best mannequins
> > have other adjustable parameters, such as waist length and torso and hip
> > angles.
> >
> > There is no single answer to the mannequin question, but there are a
> > number of different options that can be classed "museum quality".
> >
> > 20th century "department store" mannequins are unsuitable for pre-20th
> > century historic dress not because of materials issues but because of
> > their inability to assume period shapes. They will work for a lot of
> > 20th century dress, if you can find mannequins that have fairly neutral
> > poses. They also are very tall, and not cheap. It's possible to buy
> > reconditioned mannequins of this type for much less than new, and
> > sometimes department stores will donate old mannequins they no longer
> > want.
> >
> > Fiberglass mannequins intended for some periods of historic dress are
> > made by at least two firms, one in New York and one in Japan. These are
> > quite expensive, from $875.00 to almost $2000.00 each, but they are very
> > easy to work with and last for decades. (There was another firm that
> > made less expensive museum mannequins but I can't find them - does
> > anyone know what happened to Jerry Roe?)
> >
> > There are several published methods of making your own mannequin, all of
> > which can be made in various period shapes. While they can be a lot
> > less expensive, they present challenges in finding suitable armatures
> > and bases, and do not usually have attractive heads and hands. They all
> > take a fair amount of time, and it takes some effort to make them well.
> > They also may not stand up to repeated use.
> >
> > Some costumes can be effectively displayed on supports that are not full
> > mannequins, and these can take less time to make.
> >
> > Another option, if you don't need heads and hands, is the dress forms
> > made by Stockman. They have four period shapes for women, and I have
> > ordered some in plain papier-mache for $300.00 apiece; bases and neck
> > caps are extra. We will spray them with a sealant before we cover them
> > with fabric ourselves. I haven't used them yet but Meredith Montague at
> > the Museum of Fine Arts has.
> >
> > Another challenge altogether comes up if you want to represent some
> > ethnic group other than Caucasian. I haven't been able to find any
> > ready-made mannequins of any type that come with different ethnic
> > features. When we needed some American Indian mannequins, one of the
> > mountmakers sculpted each entire mannequin out of ethafoam.
> >
> > And all mannequins with heads raise the issue of hair and how to make
> > it, which can be a real problem.
> >
> > In summary, I don't have a simple answer. Does anybody else? - I'd be
> > very interested in some exchange on this topic. I'd also be very
> > interested to hear what's been said on Museum_L.
> >
> > Deborah Bede
> > Textile Conservator
> > Minnesota Historical Society "
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 01:59 PM 9/11/02 -0400, you wrote:
> > >Does anybody know where I can get museum quality mannequins? I know of
> > >Dorfman museum figures but are there others?
> > >
> > >Thank You
> > >
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:58:45 -0500
> > From: Kyle McQuilkin <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: museum quality mannequins
> >
> > Depending on what you mean by "mannequin", we are working on a
> > process for "do it yourself" archival mannequins. If you are looking
> > for life-like, photoreal figures, then I cannot help. However, if
> > you are interested in producing acid-free, archival forms for
> > historic costumes, then email me off-list and I will share that which
> > we have discovered so far.
> >
> > With minimal cost, you can create a body-mold from an appropriately
> > sized volunteer, and (generally) using waste blue board, you can cast
> > realistic body parts or complete figures.
> >
> > It takes a little time and creativity, and we have not yet ironed out
> > all the kinks, but so far our results are pretty cool. Eventually,
> > we hope to publish on the process, but I'll share what we have so far.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kyle
> >
> > --
> > Kyle McQuilkin
> > Paleontology Division
> > Museum of Texas Tech
> >
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:54:01 -0400
> > From: Maggi Jackson <[log in to unmask]>
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:17:44 -0400
> > From: Astrida Schaeffer <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: museum quality mannequins
> >
> > Carved ethafoam bodies made to the measure of the specific garment in
> > question (taking the correct period silhouette into account)has been a
> very
> > successful method for me, and one that I've used for a variety of
> > institutions. I learned the technique at the Textile Conservation Center
> in
> > Lowell, MA; it's an approved, inert display method that allows for
> > flexibility (forms can easily be reworked as needed) and solid display.
> The
> > down side is there are no heads or hands, but there are plenty of views
on
> > the desirability of that!
> > Basically you measure the torso area of the garment in 2 or 4 inch
> > increments (depending on the thickness of your ethafoam planks), cut out
> > rough ovals, hot glue the stack together, and start carving. The final
> foam
> > body needs to be a shade too small to allow room for a thin layer of
> padding
> > and the fabric covering; you don't want direct contact between the foam
> and
> > the garment.
> >
> > As others have said, I'd be happy to go into more detail off-list.
> >
> > Astrida
> >
> > ******************
> > Astrida Schaeffer, Assistant Director
> > The Art Gallery
> > University of New Hampshire
> > Paul Creative Arts Center
> > 30 College Road
> > Durham, NH 03824
> > (603) 862-3712
> > [log in to unmask]
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:18:18 -0400
> > From: Wesley Creel <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: To Those in the Profession Who Hire
> >
> > Good Afternoon George,
> > In hundreds of government museums (city,state,federal) the interviewing
> > supervisor does not even see the initial wave of applications. In my
> > experience, if 70 or 80 applications are mailed in for a single
> > application, HR (in my case at City Hall) will only let me see the
> > applications that make the minimum qualifications (MQ)cut. This 1st MQ
> cut
> > may consist of about 10 or 12 applications receiving interview
> > consideration, sometimes out of the original 70 or 80 applications. I
> > don't even know the names of the individuals who don't make the cut, and
> > won't be able to see those applications. Anyway, all
> > correspondence /contact (telephone, e-mail, etc.) to the applicants is
> > handled by HR. By policy, I cannot contact the applicants except to
> set-up
> > the telephone and face-to-face interviews, or to give the applicants
> > a "take-home situational essay exam" (yes, we do those for senior
> > positions).....after HR gives me formal "go-ahead." As you can well
> > imagine, this will take months....and, sometimes HR will not contact the
> > applicants that were cut until after the candidate is chosen and accepts
> > the position so they will have a pool to contact if necessary. This is
> > sometimes done when the interviewing supervisor needs to interview more
> > applicants for a variety of reasons.....sometimes this happens when
> several
> > candidates don't show-up for an interview (it happens more and more). I
> > have been responsible for filling well over 100 museum positions (from
> > museum directors and curators to grounds keepers and janitors) and have
> > seen over 1200 applications over the last 3 decades......I don't know
how
> > many application that I haven't seen because HR never forwarded them for
> > reasons state above.
> > I hope this sheds some light on why some things (in government
affiliated
> > museums) are the way they are,
> > Wesley S. Creel
> > Administrator of Programs and Interim Director of Museums
> > Pink Palace Family of Museums
> > Memphis, Tennessee
> > www.memphismuseums.org
> > [log in to unmask]
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:32:37 -0500
> > From: Albert Sperath <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: museum quality mannequins
> >
> > Check out the book, Museum Mannequins, Brunn and White, ISBN
> > 0-9730549-0-5, =A9 2002
> > published by Alberta Regional Group of Conservators (ARG!)
> > --
> > Albert Sperath, Director
> > University Museums
> > The University of Mississippi
> > PO Box 1848
> > University MS 38677-1848
> >
> > 662-915-7202
> > =46ax 662-915 7035
> >
> > University Avenue and Fifth Street
> > Oxford MS
> >
> > www.olemiss.edu
> >
> >
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:40:02 -0700
> > From: Indigo Nights <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: An Employer's Thoughts on Hiring
> >
> > Thank you, Jon, for your well thought-out words. They
> > will be passed along to the MuseJob members. It is
> > there we work on some of the critical skills that go
> > with job hunting. Getting a job is more than knowing
> > where the job leads are, and starting out in the
> > career field. There is just so much more to learn
> > that schools don't teach.
> >
> > As a regular part of the Musejobs list, we get the
> > HotJobs.com pointers and articles about the employment
> > market and jobs in general. I've gotten tremendous
> > feedback from members that they've learned a lot on
> > that list. This makes me proud because it makes me
> > feel I'm doing what I can to help sustain institutions
> > I dearly love.
> >
> > I think I need to say something on both sides of the
> > fence. I do include snippets that tell what the job
> > market in general is like. On the MuseFunding list, I
> > give them articles that have to do with grants that
> > may help, but also the state of funding in general.
> > CalArts just produced its budget info, and the picture
> > is that funding is down, down, down. That means less
> > and less jobs.
> >
> >
> >
> > =====
> > Indigo Nights
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
> > Looking for a Job? Try Got Links?, Your One-Stop Portal
> > http://victorian.fortunecity.com/stanmer/414
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Yahoo! - We Remember
> > 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost
> > http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute
> >
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> > ------------------------------
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:47:18 -0400
> > From: Candace Perry <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Applications and such
> >
> > I must agree with one specific point here: I once had an interview out
of
> > state -- I flew in and out the same day. Getting to the interview from
> the
> > airport was no problem, however, the museum was located in an area where
> you
> > couldn't hail a cab. The interview (and the interviewer) were terrible.
> The
> > interviewer NEVER asked if I needed any assistance getting back to the
> > airport; I left the facility and the door was locked behind me.
> Fortunately
> > I was able to walk to an area where I could hail a cab, but I was very
> > unfamiliar with the city and quite nervous about the whole
> > thing...thankfully my plane was late so I didn't miss it.
> > ANYWAY, I now live in the area where the museum is located, and I can't
> get
> > past that lack of consideration shown to me. I never tell people to
visit
> > the museum. (guess that means I didn't get the job...I wouldn't have
taken
> > it anyway!)
> > A vendor I worked with not long ago said the museum's curator (the same
> that
> > interviewed me) was "insane." Not a good image to putting forward to
> > anyone, even a lowly applicant!
> > Candace Perry
> >
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 13:47:04 -0700
> > From: Indigo Nights <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Wow!
> >
> > I sent the response to the Museums list about Jon's
> > good words.
> >
> > Yahoo must be sick because it left off half of my
> > note.
> >
> > I'm not going to try to recreate it now, just going to
> > observe that the web is a little goofy today.
> >
> >
> > =====
> > Indigo Nights
> > [log in to unmask]
> >
> > Looking for a Job? Try Got Links?, Your One-Stop Portal
> > http://victorian.fortunecity.com/stanmer/414
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Yahoo! - We Remember
> > 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost
> > http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute
> >
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 14:07:18 -0600
> > From: Nancy Geyer <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Hourly pay rate for research position
> >
> > We have graduate students who do exhibit research and work in
collections
> > and we pay $11 per hour. I'd be interested in what other museums pay.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Nancy
> >
> > Nancy Geyer, Program Director
> > Boulder History Museum
> > 1206 Euclid Ave.
> > Boulder, CO 80302
> > 303-449-3464
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
> Behalf
> > Of Kimberly Kenney
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:57 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Hourly pay rate for research position
> >
> > A small local museum contacted me inquiring about an
> > appropriate hourly wage for a part time "Historical
> > Research and Development Consultant." The candidate
> > has a master's degree and will be doing exhibit and
> > research work for about 5-7 hours per week. I told
> > them I had a wonderful network of museum professionals
> > that I could tap for a "going rate" for him.
> >
> > Any suggestions??????
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > =====
> > **********************************
> > Kimberly A. Kenney
> > Curator
> > McKinley Museum
> > 800 McKinley Monument Dr. NW
> > Canton OH 44708
> > 330-455-7043
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 15:59:03 -0400
> > From: Ivan Schwartz <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: museum mannequins
> >
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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> > hello,
> >
> > Please contact us to discuss museum quality mannequins. We have been =
> > making them for 26 years. visit our website under portfolio.. We have =
> > worked for museums all over the world.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> >
> > Ivan Schwartz
> > Director
> > StudioEIS
> > 35 York Street
> > Brooklyn, NY 11201
> > T 718-797-4561 F 718-797-4562
> > www.studioeis.com
> >
> >
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> > <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Ivan =
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 19:28:43 -0400
> > From: Rickie Good <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: speadsheets and mail merge - was To Those in the Profession Who
> Hire
> >
> > George Garner asked
> >
> > >I wonder how in this age of spreadsheets, mail merges, and document
> > templates, one cannot send responses to their applicants
> >
> >
> > I had to respond to this. While I agree that employers should send
> > responses to applicants, I hope no one believes that all museums have
> access
> > to this type of equipment. And even if they do have access, believe me,
> not
> > everyone knows how to use the software. One museum I worked at had one
> old
> > pc that was a hand-me-down from the police department. I think it was a
> > 286 - I know it still used the huge floppies. At my present job, and
> thanks
> > to a wonderful donor, we have the equipment but I'm the only one who
knows
> > how to use the "advanced" features - stop laughing - that includes how
to
> > print labels and how to sort data on a spreadsheet.
> >
> > And I'm not telling where I work :)
> >
> > Rickie Good
> >
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> > ------------------------------
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> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 16:41:42 -0700
> > From: "Reynolds, Jennifer" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: speadsheets and mail merge - was To Those in the Profession
W
> ho Hire
> >
> > I can guess where you work, Rickie! Where we all used to work, or still
> > work, or where we wish we could find a job! I bet lots of visitors would
> > figure museum office equipment as part of their collections ...
> > Jennifer
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rickie Good [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:29 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: speadsheets and mail merge - was To Those in the Profession Who
> > Hire
> >
> > ... I hope no one believes that all museums have access
> > to this type of equipment. And even if they do have access, believe me,
> not
> > everyone knows how to use the software. One museum I worked at had one
> old
> > pc that was a hand-me-down from the police department. I think it was a
> > 286 - I know it still used the huge floppies. At my present job, and
> thanks
> > to a wonderful donor, we have the equipment but I'm the only one who
knows
> > how to use the "advanced" features - stop laughing - that includes how
to
> > print labels and how to sort data on a spreadsheet.
> >
> > And I'm not telling where I work :)
> >
> > Rickie Good
> >
> > =========================================================
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 20:10:30 -0500
> > From: Chris Godbold <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Visitor traffic, rugs, and wood floors
> >
> > Dear fellow listers,
> >
> > I work at an 1891 historic house (As I have said previously) and the
large
> > rugs in the house all extend into the visitor walkways. Someone in the
> past
> > (before I came to work there) put down plastic covers that have little
> > cleats on the bottom to protect the rugs from wear and tear. These
cleats
> > are damaging our wood floors and probably our rugs, too. So I have been
> > asked to research alternate means to cover the rugs and protect them
from
> > the wear and tear of visitor traffic.I understand that it is best to
keep
> > rugs where they cannot be walked on, but that may not be an option.
> > I have looked at the list archives and several conservation websites,
but
> > didn't find much. So I am asking for your help, observations,
experiences,
> > etc. Thanks in advance for your help!
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Chris Godbold
> > Assistant Curator
> > Heritage Farmstead Museum
> > Plano, TX 75075
> > [log in to unmask]
> > www.heritagefarmstead.org
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:32:35 -0400
> > From: James Schulte <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: speadsheets and mail merge - was To Those in the Profession
> Who Hire
> >
> > Don't feel bad Ricky.I'm an unpaid intern at the museum i work at and I
> > train the regular staff, go figure
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Rickie Good" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 7:28 PM
> > Subject: speadsheets and mail merge - was To Those in the Profession Who
> > Hire
> >
> >
> > > George Garner asked
> > >
> > > >I wonder how in this age of spreadsheets, mail merges, and document
> > > templates, one cannot send responses to their applicants
> > >
> > >
> > > I had to respond to this. While I agree that employers should send
> > > responses to applicants, I hope no one believes that all museums have
> > access
> > > to this type of equipment. And even if they do have access, believe
me,
> > not
> > > everyone knows how to use the software. One museum I worked at had
one
> > old
> > > pc that was a hand-me-down from the police department. I think it was
a
> > > 286 - I know it still used the huge floppies. At my present job, and
> > thanks
> > > to a wonderful donor, we have the equipment but I'm the only one who
> knows
> > > how to use the "advanced" features - stop laughing - that includes how
> to
> > > print labels and how to sort data on a spreadsheet.
> > >
> > > And I'm not telling where I work :)
> > >
> > > Rickie Good
> > >
> > > =========================================================
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:34:41 -0400
> > From: James Schulte <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: speadsheets and mail merge - was To Those in the Profession
W
> ho Hire
> >
> > Well in the colonial house i work In , I tell the visitors this is the
> > colonial office/kitchen from the 21st century
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Reynolds, Jennifer" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 7:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: speadsheets and mail merge - was To Those in the Profession
W
> > ho Hire
> >
> >
> > > I can guess where you work, Rickie! Where we all used to work, or
still
> > > work, or where we wish we could find a job! I bet lots of visitors
would
> > > figure museum office equipment as part of their collections ...
> > > Jennifer
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Rickie Good [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:29 PM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: speadsheets and mail merge - was To Those in the Profession
Who
> > > Hire
> > >
> > > ... I hope no one believes that all museums have access
> > > to this type of equipment. And even if they do have access, believe
me,
> > not
> > > everyone knows how to use the software. One museum I worked at had
one
> > old
> > > pc that was a hand-me-down from the police department. I think it was
a
> > > 286 - I know it still used the huge floppies. At my present job, and
> > thanks
> > > to a wonderful donor, we have the equipment but I'm the only one who
> knows
> > > how to use the "advanced" features - stop laughing - that includes how
> to
> > > print labels and how to sort data on a spreadsheet.
> > >
> > > And I'm not telling where I work :)
> > >
> > > Rickie Good
> > >
> > > =========================================================
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:40:47 -0400
> > From: James Schulte <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Applications and such
> >
> > I have to agree with Indigo.I innocently started the "I need a job
> > controversy"(ducks) I think. And I do believe professional couresy
> requires
> > a response. Fortunately for me through nagging persistance and contacts
I
> > got a job (someday) lol. When Nj ends the hiring freeze. Until then I
> teach
> > and intern. I have found out career counselors at least at my school in
> > adequately prepare you thats why i utilize the professors in my field of
> > study who have been more than willing to assist me. My rsume, etc has
been
> > created by the advisors in my programs for which im
> > ---- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Martinson" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:46 PM
> > Subject: Re: Applications and such
> >
> >
> > > It has been said that employers have 200-400 applicants for each job
and
> > do
> > > not have the
> > > time and resources to deal with responding back to each and every
> > applicant.
> > > However,
> > > there are the hearts and souls of the applicants, who spend hours/days
> > > putting together 11 to 12 pages of answers for the required 11 to 12
> > > questions that are often said to be "detailed". Then you receive a
> 100%
> > > (plus you are a veteran so you get an additional 5%), but then you
never
> > > even get a call back or an interview. There is the cost of time, the
> cost
> > > of paper, postage (priority, UPS, etc.) the cost of envelopes,
> > > printer/toner, etc. There is the time applicants takes
> > > off work to fly to interviews and often many positions have you pay
1/2
> > way,
> > > or your hotel room, or reimburses you (months later).
> > >
> > > It think it is a case of "professionalism" on the part of employers.
> How
> > > do they want to
> > > "brand" themselves as professionals? It is also called
"consideration"
> > and
> > > ethics to me to send a reply back when I am in that position.
> > >
> > > Call it as you like it, but to many it is simply bad taste and rude.
> > True,
> > > it is not just with museums, but state jobs or any job you apply for
> > today.
> > > Employers have their "pick of the crop" and they can be very selective
> to
> > > get the right person for the position. However, in the process, they
> > need
> > > to hold some professionalism standards by responding back to each and
> > every
> > > applicant.
> > >
> > > If they cannot do this, they should not be advertising the job. It
> should
> > > be part of the budget and expense......and simply their job. If five
> or
> > > ten people are interviewed -- how expensive are 5 or 10 letters and
> > stamps?
> > > Many employers don't even respond back to those they interview, let
> alone
> > to
> > > each and every applicant who applied.
> > >
> > > Personally, for me -- when I do not get an answer back it puts a big
> > > "negative" in my mind about the museum or employer. Call it human
> > nature.
> > > Yes --- it means, it was probably the best that I did not get the
> position
> > > with them, if that is the way they handle their public relations.
> > However,
> > > I am also a possible "visitor" to their museum or business in the
> future.
> > > Do you think I would go there or pay an admission charge to see their
> > > museum? Not on your life.
> > >
> > > And I am only one ~~~ what are the 400 applicants going to say
> "positive"
> > > about that museum or employer?
> > >
> > > "Hey Frank, do you know of any museums I can visits why passing
through
> > ZXY
> > > town? I
> > > heard that ZXY museum was were wanting to work in the area."
> > >
> > > Frank just so happened applied at ZXY museum and never heard a word
back
> > > from them, after he spent $200 on a flight for an interview, and hours
> > > filling out their questions, cost of sending a letter overnight---with
> > time
> > > had $300 to $400 in costs, plus having to miss work for the interview.
> > > What would Frank's response be?
> > >
> > > "Bob, I don't know about that museum...the staff is not to friendly
> there,
> > > and I heard it
> > > was not that great of a museum.....not very professional in their
> > standards
> > > which reflects
> > > badly on their exhibits and staff's attitude. My opinion of course,
> take
> > it
> > > or leave it...but the
> > > ABC museum, in the town of ABC, I heard has an excellent exhibit on
> > "Humming
> > > Bird Feeding"
> > > that you are interested in and you don't want to miss that! Bob, too,
> > their
> > > staff and docents are great! In fact, I recently sent a job
application
> > to
> > > them. And do you believe this......they responded back that they
> received
> > > it. Then a few weeks later, I got a call from a Board member and they
> are
> > > very interested in me....and I have an interview next week! They are
> > paying
> > > my way down on the weekend, so I will not miss any work"
> > >
> > > Maybe that is over-doing it..but is a form of bad and good PR museums
> can
> > > receive. And negative words do spread.
> > >
> > > IMHO, I would not like that sort of negativity to get out about the
> museum
> > I
> > > was directing or worked. In fact, I would have the consideration to
> reply
> > > back to each and every applicant that applied. I'm sure ABC Museum
> would
> > be
> > > sending out letters to those who applied for the position Frank
> > interviewed
> > > for.
> > >
> > > As I mentioned before, the applicants who apply for positions with
YOUR
> > > museum, could be possible donors or maybe even your boss later on in
> life.
> > > It is just a "win win" situation to always put your best foot forward.
> > > Treat each applicant with respect..and it will return two-fold back to
> > you.
> > >
> > > Too, when the market changes, museums and employers will be searching
> for
> > > good, professional people, but do you think Frank is going to want to
> work
> > > for you or apply for the position if it is offered again? Frank is
> > likely
> > > going to be working instead at ABC museum and your direct competition.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > John
> > >
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 21:59:57 EDT
> > From: Merri Pemberton <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Applications and such
> >
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> >
> > I would like to add my 25 cents please.
> >
> > I admire the museum professional hopefuls who put in so much time and
> effort
> > into finding a job. I do feel very passionately about doing your best to
> > treat these potential workers and workers in other fields the best way
you
> > can. Word of mouth is damaging. I saw first hand in a local election in
my
> > county how bad word of mouth can damage chances of success. A lady who
was
> > running for local office has a reputation of being very rude and
> > disrespectful to her workers. She lost the election by a large margin;
> this
> > loss is well known in our county because of her attitude to others.
> >
> > Some of you have heard this story before:
> >
> > When I interviewed at the Museum of Early Southern Decorative Arts, Old
> > Salem, Winston Salem, NC. The receptionist showed a very rude and cold
> > attitude towards me. When my mother and aunt came in after I was taken
to
> the
> > interviewer's office, the receptionist behaved the same way to them. I
had
> > the feeling that I wasn't going to get the job anyway. Usually I have a
> lot
> > of hope regardless, but this time I just knew that this wasn't it. That
> was
> > the first time that I really felt unwelcomed in a place where I
> interviewed.
> > This strong discomfort lasted for the whole time that I was there, it
> didn't
> > just start and end with the front desk receptionist.
> >
> > I am the sort of person who is very loyal to products, companies, and
> > services that treat me well. For instance, I always go the same grocery
> store
> > (s) every week because of their great customer service, fresh produce
and
> > clean store. I always buy the same juice (OceanSpray Cranberry Juice)
from
> > the same store every week. When I tell people about where I go to buy
> > groceries, I really lay it down thick of how wonderful the store is and
> how
> > wonderful the produce and meats look.
> >
> > I can be an asset to any business, even when I don't have much money
> because
> > the money that I do have and the favorable word of mouth will definately
> go
> > to that business that treats the customers well. I tell everyone where
> they
> > should go to get the best services and products...that includes museums.
> >
> > When I say to a museum hopeful, " that is a great museum to try for a
> job!" I
> > mean it. I love to talk about places that are good to me. I love to
point
> out
> > museums that really shows respect for my efforts. I probably have been
> there
> > as a visitor or interviewee and was treated in a decent fashion. When I
go
> > through a bad experience with that potential employer, I tell that to
> > everyone also. Everyone makes their own decisions, but I don't want to
see
> > others wasting their time without knowing that they may have more of
that
> > chance of wasting time with certain employers. I also don't want to see
> > others spending their money on certain businesses that don't respect
their
> > clients.
> >
> > I guess one could say that the way that I act resembles that of a news
> > broadcast reporter and a cheerleader, literally.
> >
> > If you treat your customers/visitors/interviewers well, you may have
loyal
> PR
> > people and financial donators for a very long time.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Merri
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > n a message dated 9//202 12:52:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > [log in to unmask] writes:
> >
> >
> > >
> >
> >
> > M erri C .Pemberton
> >
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> > <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
> FACE="Arial" LANG="0">I would like to add my 25 cents please.
> > <BR>
> > <BR>I admire the museum professional hopefuls who put in so much time
and
> effort into finding a job. I do feel very passionately about doing your
best
> to treat these potential workers and workers in other fields the best way
> you can. Word of mouth is damaging. I saw first hand in a local election
in
> my county how bad word of mouth can damage chances of success. A lady who
> was running for local office has a reputation of being very rude and
> disrespectful to her workers. She lost the election by a large margin;
this
> loss is well known in our county because of her attitude to others.
> > <BR>
> > <BR>Some of you have heard this story before:
> > <BR>
> > <BR>When I interviewed at the Museum of Early Southern Decorative Arts,
> Old Salem, Winston Salem, NC. The receptionist showed a very rude and cold
> attitude towards me. When my mother and aunt came in after I was taken to
> the interviewer's office, the receptionist behaved the same way to them. I
> had the feeling that I wasn't going to get the job anyway. Usually I have
a
> lot of hope regardless, but this time I just knew that this wasn't it.
That
> was the first time that I really felt unwelcomed in a place where I
> interviewed. This strong discomfort lasted for the whole time that I was
> there, it didn't just start and end with the front desk receptionist.
> > <BR>
> > <BR>I am the sort of person who is very loyal to products, companies,
and
> services that treat me well. For instance, I always go the same grocery
> store (s) every week because of their great customer service, fresh
produce
> and clean store. I always buy the same juice (OceanSpray Cranberry Juice)
> from the same store every week. When I tell people about where I go to buy
> groceries, I really lay it down thick of how wonderful the store is and
how
> wonderful the produce and meats look.
> > <BR>
> > <BR>I can be an asset to any business, even when I don't have much money
> because the money that I do have and the favorable word of mouth will
> definately go to that business that treats the customers well. I tell
> everyone where they should go to get the best services and products...that
> includes museums.
> > <BR>
> > <BR>When I say to a museum hopeful, " that is a great museum to try for
a
> job!" I mean it. I love to talk about places that are good to me. I love
to
> point out museums that really shows respect for my efforts. I probably
have
> been there as a visitor or interviewee and was treated in a decent
fashion.
> When I go through a bad experience with that potential employer, I tell
that
> to everyone also. Everyone makes their own decisions, but I don't want to
> see others wasting their time without knowing that they may have more of
> that chance of wasting time with certain employers. I also don't want to
see
> others spending their money on certain businesses that don't respect their
> clients.
> > <BR>
> > <BR>I guess one could say that the way that I act resembles that of a
news
> broadcast reporter and a cheerleader, literally.
> > <BR>
> > <BR>If you treat your customers/visitors/interviewers well, you may have
> loyal PR people and financial donators for a very long time.
> > <BR>
> > <BR>Sincerely,
> > <BR>
> > <BR>Merri
> > <BR>
> > <BR>
> > <BR>
> > <BR>
> > <BR>n a message dated 9//202 12:52:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
> > <BR>
> > <BR>
> > <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid;
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> > <BR>
> > <BR>
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> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 22:06:27 EDT
> > From: Merri Pemberton <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: speadsheets and mail merge - was To Those in the Profession
> Who Hire
> >
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> >
> > Man! We really need (meaning the public) to do better with giving museum
> > donations and (meaning the museum studies programs) training to fix that
> > problem.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Merri
> >
> > M erri C .Pemberton
> >
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> > <HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"
> FACE="Arial" LANG="0">Man! We really need (meaning the public) to do
better
> with giving museum donations and (meaning the museum studies programs)
> training to fix that problem.
> > <BR>
> > <BR>Sincerely,
> > <BR>
> > <BR>Merri
> > <BR>
> > <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" SIZE=2 FAMILY="SCRIPT" FACE="Brush
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 22:41:28 -0400
> > From: Dale Jones <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: WINTER 2003 INTERNSHIP IN RESEARCH AND EVALUATION
> >
> > WINTER 2003 INTERNSHIP IN RESEARCH AND EVALUATION
> >
> > The Institute for Learning Innovation, a nonprofit research, evaluation,
> > and materials development organization that works with museums and other
> > community-based institutions world-wide, is offering a three-month, paid
> > internship as a Research and Evaluation Assistant. The summer
> > internship begins in February 2003 and ends in April 2003. Start and
> > end dates can be tailored to accommodate the intern's schedule. The
> > internship is three months long and includes a stipend of $1200 per
> > month.
> >
> > The Research and Evaluation Assistant will work on a variety of projects
> > including the evaluation of museum exhibitions and/or programs, as well
> > as the evaluation of community-based and/or technology-based programs.
> > Past interns have worked with projects such as a front-end evaluation of
> > an exhibition at the Smithsonian's Natural History Museum, a summative
> > evaluation of a gallery at the Maryland Historical Society, and a
> > variety of other evaluations conducted at museums and with community
> > organizations. Duties are specific to projects that are available at
> > the time and will include some or all of the following tasks:
> >
> > * Coordinating aspects of evaluation planning and design. The candidate
> > may work with a project manager to formulate the initial design and
> > conceptualization of an evaluation project.
> > * Collecting data in the field. Data collection may involve conducting
> > interviews, observations, or tracking in a museum or other
> > community-based organization.
> > * Reducing and analyzing data. Candidates may code and then enter data
> > into the appropriate software program.
> > * Writing technical reports that interpret and summarize data.
> >
> > The ideal candidate will have a keen interest in better understanding
> > how, what, where and why people learn in all aspects of their lives, but
> > especially related to experiences in museums and other community-based
> > organizations. Analytical thinking skills are required. The candidate
> > must learn quickly and be able to work simultaneously on multiple,
> > diverse tasks. In addition, the candidate will have excellent
> > interpersonal skills, as well as written and oral communication skills.
> > Students working toward, or having just completed, a graduate degree and
> > professionals in the field are encouraged to apply. Unfortunately, we
> > can accept only U. S. citizens for applicants at this time.
> >
> > Interested candidates should send a cv/resume, three letters of
> > reference, and a cover letter to:
> > Institute for Learning Innovation,
> > 166 West St., Annapolis, MD 21401.
> > Attention: Dale Jones.
> >
> > For further information, please contact Dale Jones at (410) 268-5149 or
> > <[log in to unmask]>. Applications will be accepted through November 15,
> > 2002.
> >
> > The Institute for Learning Innovation is a non-profit organization that
> > works to describe, assess, and advance learning both in free-choice
> > settings such as museums, libraries, community-based programs, and
> > websites, as well as in the formal education system. The organization's
> > focus resides in three areas: research and evaluation, professional
> > development, and learning resources development. The collective
> > experience of staff gives the organization expertise across a wide
> > variety of disciplines including art, history, and science. For further
> > information, visit the Institute's website located at <www.ilinet.org
> >
> > Dale Jones
> > Institute for Learning Innovation
> > 166 West Street
> > Annapolis MD 21401
> > 410-268-5149
> > 410-268-2179 (Fax)
> > [log in to unmask]
> > www.ilinet.org
> >
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