On 29-08-2005 2:33, "Grahame Ryan" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Dear Mario
>
> Adding to comments posted by both Patrick Boylan and Roger Smith, I am still
> not convinced that youth as you define it should constitute a new and
> separate committee within ICOM. I would prefer to see more energy placed in
> developing effective engagement strategies for younger and potential members
> across the various disciplines under the ICOM umbrella.
Is that, as I write in my reply to Tereza post, I auspicate.
>
> MPR has a strong history of involvement from young marketers, perhaps a
> reflection of the profession‚s demographic in wider society; but critical to
>...omissis...
> the older heads, contributing to the
> profession their technological expertise, creative perspectives, fresh
> energy and passion for the profession, drive to prove their worth, a greater
> readiness to engage society, and a real determination to make a difference.
> In short, they exercise enormous commitment and responsibility to MPR.
all this good intention are very interesting but must to be concretize, I
don't see anything of concrete now.
It is important to be clear that the "Young Group" we propose is not in
competition with any of the exiting committee or with any other group,
association, institution etc.
Is like a "think-tank" where members can transfer results to other
committee, group, association etc... The concept of "wings".
Mario
>
> Kind regards
> Grahame
>
>
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> ICOM-MPR
> International Council of Museums
> Marketing and Public Relations Committee
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>
>> From: Mario Bucolo <[log in to unmask]>
>> Reply-To: International Council of Museums Discussion List
>> <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Young Professional Group - can't see the need for it
>> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 11:02:30 +0200
>>
>> On 25-08-2005 19:42, "Roger Smith" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree with you Patrick and quite frankly can't see the need for
>> something
>>> called a 'Young Professional' grouping or committee.
>>>
>>> The beauty of any national or international committee, that I have
>> belonged
>>> to, is that the younger ( new ) members intermingle with the old (
>> existing)
>>> and exciting dialogue results.
>>
>> Many thanks about this opinion but as we write in many post having a Young
>> Committee don't mean isolate and separate Young from Adult/senior, this
>> means that young can give a dynamic push to all and senior can mentor it.
>>
>>>
>>> Added to this is the ability to have full ICOM voting rights which you
>>> mention.
>>
>> If the committee will be accepted by ICOM (with all times need) it will be
>> an official committee so there is no need to worry if members can vote or
>> not, the vote right is not an element that mean that a member is active in
>> the committee...and don't mean that the committee is...active.
>>
>> It appear that we will wet before rain!
>>
>>> This type of separatist agenda to form a splinter group seems at
>> variance
>>> with the aims of ICOM and I am not sure of the true motives?
>>
>> Probably you missing hundred of posts from many colleagues from every part
>> of the world, ICOM or non ICOM member, you can easy access to all the
>> history by the archive of MuseumL and Icom L accessible from my home page
>> www.mariobucolo.com
>> The story start on august 5, an holiday period so probably many colleagues
>> missing the starting point.
>> This will clear to you all the reasons and you can have a more deep
>> analysis, after this it is welcome any your further opinion, comments
>> critics.
>>
>> Thanks again Roger, sincerely
>>
>> Mario Bucolo
>>
>>>
>>> best wishes
>>> Roger
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "P Boylan" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 10:57 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Young Professional Group (update)
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 24 Aug 2005, Mario Bucolo wrote:
>>>>
>>>> +++++ [CLIP] +++++
>>>>
>>>>> Last week I meet, informally, in Paris the ICOM General Secretary and
>> we
>>>>> talk about this idea. He was happy about this initiative and he want
>> to
>>>>> look
>>>>> again to the proposal after a better definition about who will join
>> the
>>>>> group, the group goals and strategic plan to achieve the goals.
>>>>> He was very clear that the creation of a new International Committees
>>>>> inside
>>>>> ICOM it will be difficult (also regarding burocracy) and with long
>> times
>>>>> (about Vienna 2007 general assembly).
>>>>
>>>> =================
>>>>
>>>> Mario:
>>>>
>>>> Please remember that if your suggested Group is eventually constituted
>> as
>>>> an official ICOM International Committee any "younger" ICOM member
>> joining
>>>> it would not be allowed to be a full ("voting") member in any other
>>>> International Committee, such as the International Committee for their
>> own
>>>> academic or professional specialisation (ICME, Nat Hist, CECA, ICMS or
>>>> whatever). (This is clear under the Statutes and Rules of ICOM, which
>>>> allow full membership in only one International Committee at a time.)
>>>>
>>>> I am sure that nobody - least of all the younger members - would want
>> to
>>>> cut themselves off from perhaps more senior professional colleagues in
>>>> their own specialisation in this way, so some other structure would be
>>>> needed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Patrick Boylan
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