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Thank You, Rachel.  Excellent point.
On Aug 13, 2007, at 9:55 PM, Perkins Arenstein Family wrote:

> Sarah,
>
> You already received two good responses from Dave and Marc but this  
> is an issue that I feel strongly enough about to echo their  
> comments by adding my two cents...
>
> There are many talented restorers out there and I am not arrogant  
> enough to think that only Professional Associate level members of  
> AIC (you must be a PA level or higher to be listed on the AIC  
> conservator referral website) should be allowed to touch people's  
> art.  However, I would be a much wealthier conservator if I had a  
> dollar for every person who brought me a piece after attempting a  
> cheaper solution (whether on their own or with other well meaning  
> assistance).  I would be wary of any offer of assistance based on a  
> standard treatment that is devised without proper examination and  
> solvent testing of the painting to be treated.
>
> Best,
> Rachael Perkins Arenstein
> Conservator in Private Practice, New York
>
>
>
>> Date:    Sun, 12 Aug 2007 10:45:15 -0500
>> From:    Sarah Wood-Clark <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Painting Conservation
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>> Hello All,
>>
>> I have what may be a dumb question, but here goes...a friend has a
>> couple of nice aging oil paintings (early-mid this century) that need
>> some attention (cleaning and inpainting), she lives in a rural area
>> and does not have access geographically or budget-wise to painting
>> conservators and has turned them over to someone who has promised to
>> go over them with Salamander Oil and varnish them. I don't know what
>> varnish, and I seem to remember earlier in my career equating
>> salamander oil with snake oil or worse.  What does this stuff
>> actually do?  Will it harm the painting?
>>
>> Oh, thank you in advance.
>>
>> Sarah
>>
>>
>
>> Date:    Sun, 12 Aug 2007 10:43:16 -0700
>> From:    David Harvey <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: Painting Conservation
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>> Sarah,
>>
>> As a conservator I can tell you that it is often best that nothing is
>> done rather than a "restorative" cleaning and treatment that will
>> often present much more serious issues for the work of art or the
>> object in future years.
>>
>> I looked up "Salamander Oil" on CAMEO at the MFA Boston site and  
>> found
>> this entry:
>>
>> http://cameo.mfa.org/materials/record.asp? 
>> key=2170&subkey=8161&Search=Search&MaterialName=Salamander 
>> +Oil&submit.x=0&submit.y=0
>>
>> The description says that Salamander oil contains 60% turpentine and
>> natural resins and oils.
>>
>> Oiling antiques, historic objects, and art works may indeed make them
>> look better initially, because the oil saturates the surface and  
>> makes
>> it "look" new. Many people often use oils to "feed" old wood. Well,
>> organic oils over time, chemically cross link and polarmerize and  
>> form
>> films that darken and can go black and glossy that can be very
>> difficult to remove (I am in the middle of one such problem treatment
>> right now from years of the use of linseed oil).
>>
>> Often restorers use these sort of materials because they get quick
>> results and they can apply them universally without taking the actual
>> condition of the piece into consideration. A conservator bases
>> treatment on a careful examination and evaluation of the materials
>> involved.
>>
>> I always tell people that if the art or object is something you do  
>> not
>> care about, that has a life span of a decade or two, and what you  
>> want
>> is a cheap fix and that the object is seen as disposable, then go
>> ahead with the cheap remedy. If the object or art is important to  
>> you,
>> has an intrinsic family, heirloom, historic, or artistic value and  
>> you
>> want to preserve it, then leave it alone until a competant specialist
>> can examine it and offer advice on its cleaning and care.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Dave
>>
>> David Harvey
>> Conservator, Los, Angeles, California
>>
>>
>> On 8/12/07, Sarah Wood-Clark <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> > Hello All,
>> >
>> > I have what may be a dumb question, but here goes...a friend has a
>> > couple of nice aging oil paintings (early-mid this century) that  
>> need
>> > some attention (cleaning and inpainting), she lives in a rural area
>> > and does not have access geographically or budget-wise to painting
>> > conservators and has turned them over to someone who has  
>> promised to
>> > go over them with Salamander Oil and varnish them. I don't know  
>> what
>> > varnish, and I seem to remember earlier in my career equating
>> > salamander oil with snake oil or worse.  What does this stuff
>> > actually do?  Will it harm the painting?
>> >
>> > Oh, thank you in advance.
>> >
>> > Sarah
>> >
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>> Date:    Sun, 12 Aug 2007 23:27:11 -0400
>> From:    Marc A Williams <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: Painting Conservation
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>> My 2-c:
>>
>> I agree with what David said.  The other problem with certain  
>> kinds of oils
>> is that they may not fully oxidize or dry, remaining oily, softening
>> underlying varnish or paint layers and entrapping dust and dirt,  
>> creating a
>> real mess.  Oils are one of the worst products that can be used for
>> preservation of painted, finished and decorative surfaces.  I  
>> never use
>> them.  Period.
>>
>> The other issue is that any coating or treatment will seal in  
>> existing dirt
>> if it is not properly cleaned first.  Then, the dirt is much more  
>> difficult
>> and more expensive to remove in the future.  I never varnish or  
>> otherwise
>> coat a dirty surface.
>>
>> The treatments you mention, if one ignores their potentially  
>> devastating
>> effect on the paintings, of course do nothing for the losses  
>> requiring
>> inpainting.  Hopefully, anyone that would consider using the  
>> aforementioned
>> products on a painting has enough sense not to attempt inpainting,  
>> but I
>> doubt it.
>>
>> I know doing nothing is difficult for many people, but doing the  
>> wrong thing
>> is much, much worse than doing nothing.  I would suggest that the  
>> money she
>> would spend for the inappropriate treatment would be better  
>> applied for a
>> partial treatment by a real conservator.  Conservators do not have  
>> to do a
>> complete treatment.  One may be able to stabilize the areas of  
>> loss and do a
>> quick cleaning of dirt, making the paintings look better, without  
>> creating
>> any additional damage now or in the future.
>>
>> She may be surprised to find that a qualified conservator lives  
>> closer than
>> she thinks, she just doesn't know it.  The American Institute for
>> Conservation (AIC) in Washington, DC maintains a referral list  
>> that anyone
>> can access.  Otherwise, doing nothing is the best thing she can do.
>>
>> Marc
>>
>> American Conservation Consortium, Ltd.
>>      4 Rockville Road
>>      Broad Brook, CT 06016
>>      www.conservator.com
>>      860-386-6058
>>
>> *Collections Preservation Consultation
>> *Conservation Assessments & Surveys
>> *Low-Tech Environmental Control
>> *Moisture Management Solutions
>> *Collections in Historic Structures
>> *Collections Care Grant Preparation
>> *Conservation Treatment of:
>>      Furniture
>>      Painted Wood
>>      Horse-Drawn Vehicles
>>      Architectural Interiors
>>
>> Marc A. Williams, President
>>      MS in Art Conservation, Winterthur Museum Program
>>      Former Chief Wooden Object Conservator, Smithsonian Institution
>>      Fellow, American Institute for Conservation (AIC)
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Sarah Wood-Clark" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 11:45 AM
>> Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Painting Conservation
>>
>>
>> > Hello All,
>> >
>> > I have what may be a dumb question, but here goes...a friend has  
>> a  couple
>> > of nice aging oil paintings (early-mid this century) that need   
>> some
>> > attention (cleaning and inpainting), she lives in a rural area   
>> and does
>> > not have access geographically or budget-wise to painting   
>> conservators
>> > and has turned them over to someone who has promised to  go over  
>> them with
>> > Salamander Oil and varnish them. I don't know what  varnish, and  
>> I seem to
>> > remember earlier in my career equating  salamander oil with  
>> snake oil or
>> > worse.  What does this stuff  actually do?  Will it harm the  
>> painting?
>> >
>> > Oh, thank you in advance.
>> >
>> > Sarah
>> >
>> > =========================================================
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>> Date:    Sun, 12 Aug 2007 23:34:38 -0400
>> From:    Marc A Williams <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: "this doesn't smell like a museum!"
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>> Pam,
>>
>> Just be a bit careful with the quantity of cedar chips you use.   
>> Wood in =
>> chip form has a very large surface area compared to lumber, and  
>> volatile =
>> wood acids will be released in much larger quantities.  These can  
>> damage =
>> textiles, paper and other sensitive materials.  Keep the quantity  
>> small, =
>> or consider using an alternative scent that is not derived from  
>> acidic =
>> cellulose.  Is there an incense that doesn't have to be burned?   
>> Or, =
>> perhaps of few drops of perfume strategically placed?
>>
>> Marc
>>
>> American Conservation Consortium, Ltd.
>>      4 Rockville Road
>>      Broad Brook, CT 06016
>>      www.conservator.com
>>      860-386-6058
>>
>> *Collections Preservation Consultation
>> *Conservation Assessments & Surveys
>> *Low-Tech Environmental Control
>> *Moisture Management Solutions
>> *Collections in Historic Structures
>> *Collections Care Grant Preparation
>> *Conservation Treatment of:
>>      Furniture
>>      Painted Wood
>>      Horse-Drawn Vehicles
>>      Architectural Interiors
>>
>> Marc A. Williams, President
>>      MS in Art Conservation, Winterthur Museum Program
>>      Former Chief Wooden Object Conservator, Smithsonian Institution
>>      Fellow, American Institute for Conservation (AIC)
>>
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----=20
>>   From: Pamela Silvestri=20
>>   To: [log in to unmask]
>>   Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2007 1:28 PM
>>   Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] "this doesn't smell like a museum!"
>>
>>
>>   Oh...I guess I should be glad that our museum isn't near a =
>> food/product establishment...the aroma of chocolate would be nice  
>> though =
>> -I wouldn't mind (as long as it's dark chocolate lol).
>>
>>   Since the topic of smell has come up again, it occurred to me  
>> that =
>> using cedar chips would be beneficial. Don't know why I hadn't  
>> thought =
>> of this before.  I've requested cedar chips (a large amount) that  
>> I can =
>> place in containers around the museum.  A pine odor would be nice  
>> too. =
>> We can't do much about the mustiness...with the humidity we've been =
>> having it's been unavoidable (because we don't have the resources  
>> to =
>> deal with it properly). At least I can try the cedar chips to mask  
>> the =
>> odor.
>>
>>
>>
>>   In a message dated 8/11/2007 9:53:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, =
>> [log in to unmask] writes:
>>     Museums don't have a characteristic smell, imho.=20
>>     Libraries and archives do - old paper and bindings
>>     slowly deteroriating give off a characteristic odor,
>>     various photographic media have a distinctive smell
>>     when they begin to degrade and there are lots of
>>     smells one associates with individual collections=20
>>     Mostly museums smell like the people who in the
>>     building and their activities.
>>
>>     Way too frequently, the museum where I worked smelled
>>     of hamburgers and other grilled foods prepared in the
>>     large and very busy food court on the ground floor.
>>     There was a special ventillation system and it may
>>     have filtered particulates and smoke out, but the
>>     aroma wafted throughout the building.
>>
>>     The other prominent aroma was that of "buttered"
>>     popcorn -- there were popcorn vendor wagons set up at
>>     various times and places.  On top of the popcorn for
>>     visitor consumption, microwave popcorn was a popular
>>     snack with lots of employees. It was reguarly prepared
>>     in the "personal" microwave ovens that proliferated in
>>     various departments and offices.
>>
>>     Ambrosia Chocolate used to make their product a few
>>     blocks away from the museum, until either the City or
>>     the Technical College acquired their property for a
>>     parking lot and the chocolate maker moved out to the
>>     'burbs.  Before that the heavenly aroma of chocolate
>>     would scent the air outdoors when we left work in the
>>     evenings.  It was delightful, but hell on diets.
>>
>>     Judy Turner
>>     Whitefish Bay, WI
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> much =
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>> Art=20
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>> "this =
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>>   <DIV>Oh...I guess I should be glad that our museum isn't near a =
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>> though&nbsp;-I =
>> wouldn't=20
>>   mind (as long as it's dark chocolate lol).</DIV>
>>   <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>>   <DIV>Since the topic of smell has come up again, it occurred to  
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>>   cedar chips would be beneficial. Don't know why I hadn't thought  
>> of =
>> this=20
>>   before. &nbsp;I've requested cedar chips (a large amount) that I  
>> can =
>> place in=20
>>   containers around the museum.&nbsp;&nbsp;A pine odor would be  
>> nice =
>> too. We=20
>>   can't do much about the mustiness...with the humidity we've been =
>> having it's=20
>>   been unavoidable (because we don't have the resources to deal  
>> with it=20
>>   properly). At least I can try the cedar chips to mask the odor.</ 
>> DIV>
>>   <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>>   <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>>   <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
>>   <DIV>In a message dated 8/11/2007 9:53:59 AM Eastern Daylight  
>> Time,=20
>>   [log in to unmask] writes:</DIV>
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>>     size=3D2>Museums don't have a characteristic smell, imho. =
>> <BR>Libraries and=20
>>     archives do - old paper and bindings<BR>slowly deteroriating  
>> give =
>> off a=20
>>     characteristic odor,<BR>various photographic media have a =
>> distinctive=20
>>     smell<BR>when they begin to degrade and there are lots  
>> of<BR>smells =
>> one=20
>>     associates with individual collections <BR>Mostly museums  
>> smell like =
>> the=20
>>     people who in the<BR>building and their activities.<BR><BR>Way  
>> too=20
>>     frequently, the museum where I worked smelled<BR>of hamburgers  
>> and =
>> other=20
>>     grilled foods prepared in the<BR>large and very busy food  
>> court on =
>> the=20
>>     ground floor.<BR>There was a special ventillation system and it =
>> may<BR>have=20
>>     filtered particulates and smoke out, but the<BR>aroma wafted =
>> throughout the=20
>>     building.<BR><BR>The other prominent aroma was that of =
>> "buttered"<BR>popcorn=20
>>     -- there were popcorn vendor wagons set up at<BR>various times  
>> and=20
>>     places.&nbsp; On top of the popcorn for<BR>visitor consumption, =
>> microwave=20
>>     popcorn was a popular<BR>snack with lots of employees. It was =
>> reguarly=20
>>     prepared<BR>in the "personal" microwave ovens that  
>> proliferated=20
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