GOOD FOR YOU, Gayle!!!  I applaude you.

I myself, at times have wondered who ARE you???  WHY do you have so much time
on your hands??  What is the REAL reason for Indigo ALWAYS appearing on the
list??

You have answered all these questions and more.  Don't stop contributing.  I
find it very valuable, even if I sometimes just skim and delete, as I'm sure
many folks do.

For those who are offended, maybe a "time-out" from the list is in order.  I
know several museum professionals who have done this, and they all seem to be
fine.

Thank you for sharing your personal history.  It was not AT ALL needed, but
nice to know a real person is out there.

Keep up the good work!



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>I sat here for a bit and debated whether to ignore,
>respond, or apologize.  I think it's sort of a damned
>if I do, damned if I don't kind of thing.
>
>So, I'm apologizing.  It's not my intention to be a
>list hog or boorish.
>
>Yesterday was a fortuitous day for the museum field in
>the US as far as I could tell.  It seemed to me that
>the NY Times (as well as some of the other periodicals
>I also read) took an interest in the museums field, so
>much so that they actually published a plethora of
>articles.
>
>Because there were so many, I chose to post them only
>in abstract if that were an option instead of full
>text.  Not all papers allow for that choice.  The
>options were to pick an article and post it, pick no
>articles and ignore them, or pick more than one and
>post those.  Then the problem is, which one was
>unworthy to the multifaceted representatives of this
>group?  Heretofore, they have often precipitated some
>fairly decent dialogue.  In addition, I was highly
>cognizant of the fact that it was Friday, and postings
>are usually down on that weekday such that they
>shouldn't have proved an abnormal burden.
>
>When I have been thanked in the past for my
>contributions, I have tried to privately thank those
>who have had kind words.  But from those postings, I
>was convinced there was some merit to what was being
>offered.
>
>What I have observed and/or felt is that there was a
>genuine frustration among those wanting to enter the
>museums field in garnering entry into career path.
>That was clearly evident when we turned the events of
>September 11 into constructive dialogue.  I have
>noticed that, since I have been posting jobs I find in
>my daily searches--some of which are ONLY set up to
>help others here and not me (except I will acquiesce
>that it makes me feel good to help others I may never
>know)--there appear to hve been substantively more job
>postings AND as a consequence, far fewer young people
>hitting the list saying "I need a job".  That thread
>seems, for now, to have dissipated.
>
>In posting such information, I take an extensive list
>of data and try to pare it to jobs that have
>applicability to the field.  With respect to the
>internships and volunteerism, the group has told
>neophytes time and again that they should intern or
>volunteer so they might have an easier entry into a
>museum job.  I try to select those I believe may have
>transferability.
>
>As regards the reference materials and events
>contained in the Opportunities postings, it's my
>perception that, beyond being professionals in
>whatever regard, we are still people first with a
>plethora of needs and exposures.  I do try to be
>selective and yet broad minded.  I don't know that
>what I'm posting will help ANYONE.  My hope is that it
>helps SOMEONE.
>
>The funding sources I have provided, again, are simply
>a gift.  I have, as a part of the regular course of my
>day's reading, some information I feel may, by its
>very nature, be of value to those of you here.  Since
>they often come with tight deadlines, the logic I use
>says it's better to get them to you as soon as they
>become available because, to delay, you might lose the
>lead time you need.
>
>I recognize this may sound defensive, but it seems to
>me there have been quite a few threads of late that
>should be of hope to those who already subscribe to
>the Times and who are looking for a job.  Today, I
>recall the topics of wrinkled photographs, where to
>get banners, whether Filemaker Pro or Access make good
>database tools, and how to and whether one should try
>to take the cigarette fumes from donated funeral.  I'm
>sure there were others; these were simply those I
>recall off the top of my head.
>
>As for the coffee, heck, I don't drink it myself.  A
>good cup of tea now and again, and right this minute,
>a Diet Coke with a shot bottle of Crown Royal seem to
>be doing the trick (this from an erstwhile
>nondrinker).
>
>This is the second time in four years that one has
>complained about the number of times my name has gone
>across their screen.
>
>First, Indigo Nights isn't my real name.  My name is
>Ms. Gayle M. Montgomery.  I am 49 years old and live
>in Monrovia, California.  I worked my whole life in
>the for-profit world except when I have held two jobs
>and also worked in the nonprofit arena.  I have been
>unemployed (largely by choice) since October 19 and am
>just now (about) ready to hunker down and become
>reemployed.  By mid-October, I had made $55,000 last
>year alone and just wanted a bit of a rest before I
>went back to cracking rocks again.  On top of that,
>I've been fighting an upper respiratory infection for
>the last five and a half weeks.
>
>I found a quality museum-based position that struck my
>fancy two days ago to which I may well apply. (And, by
>the way, Mr. C, I hope that satisfies your lament of
>some time back, as though not knowing my name would
>cause to discredit the caliber of what I offer the
>group.  Do you really, after all, know if John
>Chadwick is John Chadwick and not Bob Smith, and do we
>really know that you're Mr. C?)
>
>So, it really doesn't do me a lot of good to get
>Indigo's name out there.  It's not done to give Indigo
>anything in return except the satisfaction of perhaps
>being able to give back to this WONDERFUL list that
>provides so much quality information.  I thought,
>perhaps, in some way, I was meeting a need.
>
>I know what it's like to work full time and have to
>serve many masters.  I've done that my whole life, and
>even worked two jobs when I felt there was too much
>time on my hands so that I might keep one foot on both
>sides of the profit arena (both for and non) preparing
>to transition to where I am now.  For me, it's that
>old adage that you MAKE the time for those things that
>are important, and I find THIS list to be so.
>
>I'm sorry if what I have provided has offended any of
>you.  If you can tell me what it is that you
>personally find offensive so that I might not include
>such information in the future, do let me know.
>
>But objecting to just seeing my name rings rather
>hollow with me.
>
>Again, I apologize if I have offended (MOST of) you.
>
>--- Valerie Fish <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Yesterday's Digest had 39 postings, TWELVE from
>> Indigo Nights.  Is there
>> still hope for someone who is not looking for a job,
>> already subscribes
>> to the NY Times, and doesn't drink coffee?
>
>
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