If you own the image, they have no right to use it on their web site. However, for all practical purposes, all they would have to do is establish a link to the page on your site that includes the image and they will have accomplished the same thing. I think that when this all washes out we will have to accept the fact that in putting our images up on a website for the world to see, sort of puts it into the public domain. It isn't like publishing it in a book that you sell, unless you have a restricted site that someone must pay to see. ------ Robert Handy Brazoria County Historical Museum 100 East Cedar Angleton, Texas 77515 (409) 864-1208 museum_bob [log in to unmask] http://www.bchm.org ---------- From: Harper, Lucy[SMTP:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 5:05 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Web etiquette re: other museums' images We would appreciate a sense of the list re: the etiquette of placing images from other museums on museum or museum-related websites. The Memorial Art Gallery of the University of Rochester has found several instances of images from our collection showing up on other websites, without our permission having been sought, or credit having been given. We are formulating a web image permissions policy before communicating with the sites in question, and would appreciate any philosophical and/or suggested ideas for inclusion in our policy statement. Some of these are websites are that promote themselves as museum interest-related. Granted that there are some images that are in public domain in the US, (and which may or may not be in public domain in their country of origin) and that fair use will be a consideration for some users even if copyright does apply, should we not expect/ask for the minimum courtesy of a credit line, and better, a link to our website? In text-based fair use, if one copies a work without citing the source, one could be subject to a charge of plagiarism. Why not with appropriation of images to a website? In all these instances, the image has been scanned from a print source, as none of the images are available in that form in our website--we've made a point of including label info within the .gif file for all images in our website. Needless to say, once an image is on the web it's available for anyone else to copy freely. Since the image is unattributed, all those additional sites will also be unattributed and the problem will balloon. I know we can't do much about individuals' personal websites, but would it be amiss for museum professionals to state a collective sense of what is or is not appropriate for websites that are more closely tied to the profession? Thanks for your feedback. Lu Harper webmaster Memorial Art Gallery of the University of Rochester [log in to unmask]