Also last time this thread was addressed, someone brought up the point that if a newly hired individual asked for and received a better wage then they might be earning more than a superior or someone who had been working there longer. I brought up that point with a friend of mine who is a nurse and she says that is very common place in hospitals. We have to start somewhere...maybe we need to be more unified about asking for better wages during the hiring process. My 2cents, Paula Johnson U of Washington grad student