Maybe, David, the question is of scale: how many kids do we hope really to affect in some sort of radical way, and how many do we hope to merely provide a hint that there are other worlds besides the immediate ones they experience. I think that the kid who is going to be dramatically transformed by any museum experience is very rare. But they do exist, and we should cherish them and assure that they get the full blast of pure air. I'm one, and I would be willing to bet that the majority of people on this list have been shaped by museum experiences. When I was so excited about museums, it wasn't because of any advanced display or interpretive techniques, or any kind of real educational effort on the part of the museums that I learned to love. They just sort of put the stuff out there and left me alone (thinking of the Met in particular). On the other hand, there are the vast majority who will just more or less shine the museum experience on. What to do about all of these visitors? A comfortable atmosphere, interactive exhibits, welcoming infrastructure, a good cafe, nice shop, empathetic and well-informed guards and guides, in no particular order, would be my system. But most of all, I wouldn't spend *any* time or energy kvetching about their lack of interest or apparent superficiality. Eric Siegel [log in to unmask]