It seems from your comments and many of our experiences that we need to train bo th from the bottom up and the top down. It is often the curators and directors who are least concerned with preservation. We in museums must strive toward a unified approach but I rather doubt that we will achieve it except in very few cases and for limited periods of time. I expect that we conservators will cont inue to stand in defense of the collections against our museum brethren. At least we can encourage intelligent discussion of the issues and rational use of collections instead of overt consumption. Geoffrey I. Brown Kelsey Museum