Jay, Jay, Historic sites are different. If there is nothing to communicate Monticello's importance, there is no point (other than being a nice example of Neoclassical architecture). But art is expressive; the experience can be aesthetic, rather than solely didactic, as in your history example. I'm not advocating for the doing away with labels or other educational devices. I believe they are very important. But what if someone is confronted with a totally non-representational sculpture on the street? Or in a sales gallery or in their dentist's office? Why does it have to be a frustrating, head-shaking experience? What is so threatening? I think work like this is rejected by the general public because they feel like they need to have some inside knowledge, some interpretive gene or something that they don't have and thus they feel dumb. Where does this feeling that they lack some knowledge or talent that is necessary to look at, see and experience art come from? I think that we, as art professionals, surely don't help. I'm obviously not providing any answers to this problem. I'm sure a greater commitment to art throughout education and would help. I guess I'm idealistic. Just by coincidence, yesterday evening I found a section on the San Jose Museum of Art's website which is an introduction on how to look at art. Go SJMA! Janelle Aieta -----Original Message----- From: Jay Heuman [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:49 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Article on labels in art museums [faked-from] Hi Janelle et al.: Do you share this same view about historic sites? At Monticello: No point having signageabout who lived there, right? At the Vietnam War Memorial in Washington: No point having a directory so that visitors can find a specific name buried amongst the thousands? At Gettysburg: Just a big open field . . . no need for a sign, so people might just drive on by without knowing to stop? This notion of 'intuitive learning' is a grand fantasy, as if the AVERAGE art museum visitor experiences something more profound than utter frustration when looking at much art without 'educational' devices. Yes, one can enjoy a Realist landscape (circa 1850s) without additional educational devices . . . but what about multi-hued, abstract Tahitian landscapes by Gauguin (circa 1890s)? Yes, portraits by Piero della Francesca are beautiful, luxurious things . . . but isn't it nice to know who you're looking at? And isn't it nice to have an explanation of why Cubist portraits by Goerges Braque or abstract portraits by Pablo Picasso feature misplaced eyes and noses? Just watch an audience with starry expressions when looking at glass by Dale Chihuly, but total confusion when looking at minimal sculpture by Robert Morris, and absolute disgust when looking at sculpture by Damian Hirst. Is it just me, or has anyone else noticed that people - adults and chilren alike - expect instant gratification . . . that the AVERAGE art museum visitor looks at a painting or sculpture about 5 seconds? (Is this the latest statistic?) The only way to get people to LOOK longer - so taht they do learn something - is to provide MORE information, which is to say something comprehensible to aid deeper understanding. Educational devices can, for those who choose to read them, add to the experience. After all, it's not like curators and museum educators hold guns to the visitors' heads and make them read labels and signs! LOL! Sincerely, Jay Heuman Assistant Curator of Education Nora Eccles Harrison Museum of Art t 435 797 0165 f 435 797 3423 e [log in to unmask] www.artmuseum.usu.edu Education costs money, but then so does ignorance. Sir Claus Moser (b. 1922) >I'm not poo-pooing educational devices, but maybe we should also be >teaching/showing our patrons how to have an aesthetic experience without >needing to have a label. My theory is that anyone can have an experience >with any art, even if they have no background information: how does the work >make them feel, does it remind them of something, what thoughts are they >thinking while looking and why? I sometimes feel that art makes them feel >stupid because they "don't get it". What's to get? Can't it just be a >personal experience? Who says there is something to get? Us? I realize >background info can give a deeper learning experience, but sometimes we >forget about the simpler experiences we can have with art. >Janelle Aieta >Admin. Asst. >Collections Management >LACMA ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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