Dear John & All: I appreciate the candor of John's message. Almost everything John wrote is bang on, based on my experience as a frustrated applicant. ~frown~ The only suggestion that is heart-felt, I'm sure, but not helpful in reality is: > If you lack appropriate experience, be creative and get some; > you'll probably have to volunteer. As someone with 10+ years as a volunteer in various areas of museum (curatorial, collections, education, etc.) and now a 'professional' (read: paid) a volunteer coordinator )amongst many a hat I wear at work), I can toss in my two cents. Volunteering will give you a clue if this is really the line of work for you. BUT, it is most likely that volunteering only counts if other applicants for the same position have NO relevant paid museum employment on their resumes/CVs. Relevant paid museum employment always wins. Volunteering can move you to a better museum or to better duties . . . still as a volunteer. (Rarely does volunteering translate into a job.) And, of course, some people enjoy being 'professional volunteers' -- supporting themselves financially by other means. Today, as people with MAs and PhDs are hired to perform jobs advertised for a minimum requirement of a BA, with a glut of qualified people, and not enough jobs around, those with enthusiasm, a degree (or two), and some volunteer experience stand little chance . . . Frustrated? You bet. Giving up? NO WAY! That's my two cents . . . Sincerely, Jay Heuman ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes).