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Wed, 9 Aug 1995 17:46:28 -0400
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Jim,

First of all i did not flame you as i said before no flame intended and i am
not denigrating your work.  I mentioned no names on purpose because i did
not have you specifically in mind.

I know jim how much time it takes to keep the list up and how to find new
museums on the internet.  i did not target you list or your hard work! We
both know how long it takes to get this stuff up and running.

i am just sick of people (no names again) that take the information from the
lists and include it in their own without even asking...... i think we had a
discussion about that a few weeks or months ago....where some members of the
museum list were not exactly nice to each other.

I am also not implying that you have simply duplicated my list here.... You
know as well as i do that the museum list in yahoo is not complete or even
up to date most of the time.

The list of museums and other resources such as galleries and exhibitions
come from quite a few sources as well....and hard to keep updated at all times.

the information that i am providing here is free to everyone to enjoy and use.
however, the stealing and copying of the list are gross copyright
infringements and should really be followed.... but you as well as i know
that it would take too much time and money to do so..... why should all that
work not be my own and stay that way..... it really reminds me of plagarism
and other unethical behavior.

let's say you are publishing a book and you have the copyright.,.... the
book is available to the public and others but if i would take the book and
reproduce it the publisher or author would surely come after me......!

agree?

markus




>Marcus, John and all!
>
>Since Marcus seems to want to denigrate my work...I'll explain to one and
>to all how I update my list of museums.  I am not in competition with
>anyone, and the information I acquire is freely available to anyone.
>
>I get about 10-20 new listings per month via the form on our page designed
>to add new sites to the list.
>
>The remainder I find by following links provided by other institutions, and
>this includes the following indexes listed in Yahoo:
>
>
>       Berkeley Subway
>       Guide to Museums and Cultural Centers
>       Hands-on Science Centers Worldwide
>       a strong emphasis on interactive science education.
>       History of Science: Museums
>       WWW Virtual Library
>       Sunsite based Multimedia exhibits and expositions
>       U.C. Berkeley Museum Informatics Project
>
>Some links I find by email correspondence with other web managers, for
>instance, I believe that I have the only listing of South American museums.
>
>My information is NOT comprehensive.  The Newark site provides good
>descriptions of the museums as well as the URLs.  I've found that I don't
>generally have time to include much supplimentary information.
>
>I check the link before I add it to make sure that it is still active and I
>sometimes 'extract' some information from the site to provide a basic
>description.
>
>Marcus seems to imply that I have simply duplicated the pages that he
>maintains in my own.  If he was aware of the amount of time I spend
>maintaining the list, I think he would be ashamed of his attitude.
>
>I would like to say that I maintain the list as a service to the museum
>community, and as a gateway for visitors to discover our own WWW site.  I
>have absolutely no problem with other institutions or persons using the
>information I've gathered (unless maybe they are trying to make a
>profit...and even there I'm not sure there is anything to object to), or I
>wouldn't make it available on this list.
>
>And Marcus, what exactly do you mean by 'originally compiled and
>researched'?  How exactly do you learn about new museums on the web?
>
>Jim
>
>
> >john,
>>
>>you might also be interested in the list of museums at  the world wide arts
>>resources index
>>at:
>>
>>http://www.cgrg.ohio-state.edu/Newark/artsres.html
>>
>>that is undoubtedly where other people, i won't mention names, got their
>>list of museums from......
>>
>>(no flame intended, but certain lists look too close to be all originally
>>compiled and researched..... i have been working on this list  for over a
>>year now. My list  is copyrighted so if you would like to include this list
>>with the descriptions personally entered by me (that is how it is becomes
>>copyrighted in its entirety)  let me know and i will be more than happy to
>>let you have a copy) :)
>>
>>soon,  i will also have a completely searcheable database that you can
>>finally find the information that you are looking for!
>>
>>hope you enjoy this site and respect the copyright restrictions.
>>
>>markus
>>
>>
>>####################################################################
>>                                                   Markus Kruse
>>                               The Ohio State University at Newark
>>                                               ART GALLERY
>>                                         1179 University Drive
>>                                          Newark, Ohio 43055
>>                                            (614) 366-9369 tel
>>                                            (614) 366-5047 fax
>>           [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask]
>>                                           ART  HOME PAGE:
>>                        http://www.cgrg.ohio-state.edu/~mkruse/osu.html
>>#####################################################################
>
>--------------------------------------------
>
>Jim Angus
>
>Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County
>Molecular Systematics Laboratory/Web Manager
>900 Exposition Blvd.
>Los Angeles, CA  90007
>(213) 744-3317
>
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>
>
>http://cwis.usc.edu:80/lacmnh
>
>
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                                                   Markus Kruse
                               The Ohio State University at Newark
                                               ART GALLERY
                                         1179 University Drive
                                          Newark, Ohio 43055
                                            (614) 366-9369 tel
                                            (614) 366-5047 fax
           [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask]
                                           ART  HOME PAGE:
                        http://www.cgrg.ohio-state.edu/~mkruse/osu.html
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