this is very true. and the reason it is so is like any other glut. once
every applicant has five thousand degrees? it is the same as them all having
none.  bottom line is the individual regardless of what pieces of paper they
hold, even if none at all!



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From: "Martha Battle Jackson" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Glut of graduates


> In addition to lower than expected salaries, I've also known graduate 
> students who didn't think they had to have any experience to get a job. 
> In fact, they expected upon graduation to walk right into a director's job 
> because they have a master's degree in museum studies.  And the few that 
> did "luck into" such a job ended up leaving the field within a year, 
> because reality didn't match classroom teachings.
>
> When possible, I try to hire graduate students.  It seems to take about 
> 4-6 months before they realize that the real world doesn't quite match 
> what they're taught.
>
> Martha Battle Jackson, Curator of Technology
> North Carolina State Historic Sites
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tim Bottoms" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 8:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Glut of graduates
>
>
>> Stephen,
>>
>> So right.  I've spoken to museum studies classes and brought up those 
>> very
>> topics and had the professors (from the back of the room) shake their 
>> heads
>> NO!
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> Timothy S. Bottoms
>> Curator of Collections
>> Mighty Eighth Air Force Museum
>> PO Box 1992
>> Savannah, Georgia  31402
>> 912.748.8888 x 109
>> 912.748.0209 (fax)
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>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
>> Behalf Of Stephen Nowlin
>> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 1:31 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Glut of graduates
>>
>>
>>>  Many of the museum
>>> studies gradates I know are either under-employed or not even in the
>> field,
>>> or are working in very low-pay jobs, really supported by their spouses.
>>>  That's the facts.
>>
>> You're so right, Joyce.  And while it's appropriate to be encouraging to
>> young grads entering the field, one wonders if they have been given any
>> sense of how difficult it is going to be financially.  I'm appalled at 
>> the
>> salaries I see offered for leadership positions in museums requiring 
>> years
>> of experience, advanced degrees, fundraising and business acumen, and 
>> $35K a
>> year.  Every museum studies program ought to have a heads-up reality 
>> class
>> freshman year -- not to extinguish students' enthusiasm, but to give them
>> real information about making sound decisions for their future.
>>
>> Stephen Nowlin
>> Vice President, Director,
>> Alyce de Roulet Williamson Gallery
>> Art Center College of Design
>>
>> http://www.xrl.us/stephennowlin
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