It was my impression that when I submitted my response for your list that it
was going to be published or otherwise used somewhere else.  I don't think
you misrepresented anything, and certainly have my permission to use my
entry (Doctor Who).

	Scott Sumner
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-----Original Message-----
From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On
Behalf Of Hilary Parkinson
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 7:00 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Fwd: Re: Important question -- re museum book/movie
suggestions


Hi-

I have never heard of asking permission for this
either.

When I wrote my master's disstertation, the
bibliographies of secondary sources were important
resources for me, since they led me on to other useful
documents. I did not have to request permission from
any authors or journals to use the bibliography!

The very nature of a bibliography is to acknowledge
the sources and authors of the material you use.

I, in turn, acknowledged the sources I used, and my
bibliography is there for someone else to use as a
resource and to acknowledge in return.

I don't think a compliation of suggestions counts as a
bibliography - but you could certainly acknowledge
that the list was compiled in part from suggestions
from the Museum-L mailing list and archives.

Hilary Parkinson
MA, University of York, England


--- Heather-Marie Wells <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Date:         Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:39:30 -0500
> From:         Heather-Marie Wells
> <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Important question -- re museum
> book/movie suggestions
> To:           [log in to unmask]
>
> I also have never heard anything about
> bibliographies being covered by
> intellectual rights.  I can see where if you were to
> use someone's entire
> bibliography (say from a paper, presentation, book,
> etc.) it would be common
> courtesy to ask permission, but I've never been told
> its infringing on
> someone's rights if you don't.
>
> Besides, I'm not sure you could call the major of
> posts on this topic a
> "bibliography."  Most of the info you got were just
> titles, authors, and
> actors.  You are still going to have to go and find
> publishers, years, movie
> studios, directors, etc.
>
> HM
>
> >From: James Schulte <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: Museum discussion list
> <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Important question -- re museum
> book/movie suggestions
> >Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:15:01 -0400
> >
> >I'm really confused. Someone cried because you used
> a bibliography they
> >suggested in a project? When did a bibliography,
> something which follows a
> >standard form, become someone's work? So now am I
> being told I must seek
> >permission from fellow colleagues prior to using a
> source I read about in
> >their work? Man I'll never get my next book done.
> What if they are dead,
> >must I use a Ouija board? First time I heard a
> bibliography was a personal
> >source. Whoever you are let me know so I don't use
> your work, but feel free
> >to use mine, I enjoy knowing mine has been used and
> read....Jim
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Museum discussion list
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> >Behalf
> >Of Kimberly Kenney, Curator
> >Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 10:10 AM
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Important question -- re museum book/movie
> suggestions
> >
> >Someone has emailed me off list and questioned
> whether
> >I have the "right" to publish on my website
> >"bibliographies prepared by others without their
> >permission."
> >
> >If you have sent me a suggestion and you do not
> want
> >me to include it on my list, please let me know.  I
> >have not saved all of your emails, since I have
> >transferred your suggestions to a master list, so I
> >cannot write to each of you for your permission.
> Not
> >to mention, many of the suggestions have been
> >submitted multiple times -- so whose "permission"
> do I
> >need in that case?
> >
> >I was not aware that I could be violating the
> rights
> >of others by asking for your suggestions.  One
> person
> >submitted a lengthy written bibliography and I have
> >asked her for permission to use that.  It is my
> >feeling that suggesting one or to titles does not
> >constitute writing an entire "bibliography."
> >
> >Just to note, BellaOnline is a completely volunteer
> >run site -- there is no corporation behind it, and
> >each editor is a volunteer.
> >
> >My thought in making this list is to provide a fun
> >resource for people to use if they are interested
> in
> >reading and/or watching plots that involve museums.
> >My audience is NOT museum professionals, but the
> >visitors we all hope will visit our sites.
> >
> >So PLEASE, if you would rather that I didn't put
> your
> >suggestion on my list, please please please let me
> >know that.
> >
> >Thank you.
> >
> >Kim Kenney
> >
> >Kimberly A. Kenney, Curator
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