o  In light of the virus situation and the fact that
so many museums have so few resources to deal with
computers, how many of you have been severely impacted
and, are you networking with entities--i.e., asking
for volunteers, etc.--from the private sector to
assist you in these efforts.


many times out of a group of museums  thee will be one that has  someone
that  is really technically astute at working with computers.... it might be
a good policy for said museum to  lend or trade out the services of that
person for the common good of the group when a crisis type situation
arises...

just a thought...

Thanks!

Ed Sharpe Archivist for SMECC

See the Southwest Museum of Engineering, Communications and Computation
online at:
http://www.smecc.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Indigo Nights" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 1:23 PM
Subject: Let's Get Back to Mirth, Merriment, and Museums (WAS: Warning!)


> Thanks to each and every one who has written to me
> privately or about me publically.  I do appreciate
> your support.  I wanted to clarify a few points:
>
> o  When I said that Yahoogroups would do nothing in
> response to the allegations fostered, I know that to
> be true.
>
> Yahoogroups provides a free service.  For nine months,
> I WAS visited by a cyber bomber from the United Arab
> Emirates and, as many of you know, tried many things
> to try to make it stop (appealing to colleagues,
> infusing the law, doing my own detective work, etc.),
> and I can tell you that Yahoogroups is a free service
> and they do not respond to emails--you might get a
> canned response, but it generally doesn't answer the
> question, and then at great delay--they don't respond
> to phone calls, and they don't respond to FAXes.
> Plainly and simply they do not respond to someone on a
> list (for the most part).
>
> The only way I was able to rid myself of the attempted
> cyber bomber was to contact the FBI.  In short
> measure, the problem was solved (for now).  But for
> nine long months I had to stay two steps ahead of this
> person by doing some of the things I have offered to
> you here: sort your email by size, don't click on
> attachments, etc.
>
> o  MuseJobs and the other lists I run are a hobby for
> me.  I have a full-time job--more than full-time
> actually--but my kids are now grown and don't need my
> attention as they once did.  I spend a great deal of
> time with the grandchildren--often in museums--and my
> policeman boyfriend of 2-1/2 years is 2500 miles away
> so that, when he goes to bed at night, that leaves me
> time on my hands to fill, and I usually do my queries
> while I'm watching TV or listening to music.
>
> To the consternation of several of my male friends
> (current beau--who understands my logic--old beau who
> stil calls, and the Wonder Boy (ahem)), I don't do any
> part of what I do for money.  I don't have a single
> plan as it stands today (never say never) to charge
> for any of this, and I don't try to sell anything or
> allow those lists to be used to sell anything.  If, as
> it is with the Foundation Center or FindLaw,
> information I post contains an ad I believe could be
> of value to the list, I include it.
>
> I've had people say, gee you have this large list,
> can't you please help me market my website with your
> group?  The answer is no.  It's a focused list for a
> specific clientele.
>
> My experience is that my "client base" is very
> educated, often still has a great deal of educational
> debt, and isn't going to make market rate in a museum
> commensurate with the amount of education that is
> required.  In combination with that, the job market
> for the museum world has been very fragile since 9/11
> (or before) and we have countless very qualified
> people who are hungering for jobs.
>
> o  I used the internet in 1997 to find a son I
> relinquished to adoption in 1970 (long story, and
> believe me, if there were other options . . .).  It
> was a wonderful experience and, in the process, as I
> enmeshed myself with others who were also
> searching--whether adoptee or birth parent--I had
> cause to learn how to search online effectively.
> After all, with 50 dollars, 8 hours, and a part of a
> name, I had found my child.
>
> Experience had shown that this was a bright
> population, but that many did not know how to search,
> and it seemed a shame to me that they might struggle
> with finding a job.  After many years of individuals
> coming here, just arriving and saying hire me, it
> seemed there was a need to have a forum where they
> could look and be helped to find a job.  That's why
> MuseJobs was created.  There was a "bitchy' contingent
> here who didn't want to talk about jobs, and there was
> a need that was easily met if someone wanted to meet
> it. I like young people--being 50 years young
> myself--and I felt a duty to help where I could.
>
> After working full-time, raising two kids alone
> without child support a majority of the years, going
> to school full or part-time (and making the dean's
> list), and volunteering about 250 hours a year in
> service to the community, working full time now and
> spending my time in service to the museum community is
> a piece of cake.  I probably put in about 20-25 hours
> on average per week. Sometimes I post in the middle of
> the night, and I serve my lists first thing in the
> morning, on my lunch hour, and when I get home at
> night--if I'm not doing other fun things like the
> Springsteen Concert last weekend at Dodger Stadium, or
> the beach with my daughter and family, or planning my
> next trip to Florida to be with my guy (who knows I
> love museums and has been scouting for me).
>
> o  I'm not spamming anyone.  They are there because
> they choose to be.  If it's not your niche, then
> please do leave and go where you will be happy or
> better served.  By the same token, I am happy here and
> am staying as INDIGO whether it pleases you or not.  I
> don't understand the power struggle here, but peer to
> peer, it's best if you just drop it.
>
> o  What do I provide through MuseJobs?  With the
> blessed help of Jim Roberts of the University of
> Leicester, my commoderator, and the help of many
> wonderful posters, the following information gets
> provided:
>
> * Job leads for museum related jobs
> * Job leads for directly transferrable jobs (people
> with a good skill set not in a museum still need to
> work to pay the bills until they can find the job of
> their dreams)
> * Employment law
> * Interview, resume, and other hiring tips
> * Information on the state of the job market in
> general, and a lot more.
>
> I am the one that posts a majority of the information,
> and it is gleaned from many sources. Among the leads I
> provide is information from Careerbuilder.com,
> Idealist.org, ajb.org, jobs.nytimes.com,
> Washingtonpost.com, flipdog.com, The Foundation
> Center, FindLaw, HotJobs, job-related posts from the
> Museum-L list and much, much more.
>
> When I define my queries, they have to do with museum,
> zoo, planetarium, aquarium, botanical garden, library,
> park ranger, state park, archaeology, anthropology,
> professor, curator, archivist, historian, and more.
> One needs to open their horizons on what would
> constitute a "museum" to stay gainfully employed in a
> very tight market.
>
> o  All new members of MuseJobs are on moderated status
> for a period of time.  Why?  To preclude just the kind
> of spamming I have been accused of doing.
>
> So if the members here are looking for a job, you are
> welcome to join us at
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MuseJobs
>
> I don't want to talk about me any more, and I don't
> want you or the list to think you have to.  Clearly, I
> don't want any more of the insane abuse.
>
> Let's get back to the mirth and merriment and the
> serious business of museums.  I learn so much from
> each of you here.  You're an amazing bunch, and it's
> why I stay.
>
> So, in that vein, here are a couple of ideas for
> threads:
>
> o  9/11 fast approaches.  This marks the second
> anniversary.  Are any of you planning memorials and/or
> exhibits?
>
> o  The Middle East has been a hotbed of tumult.  As a
> way of educating the general public and allaying the
> fears of children (as in building tolerance), are any
> of you building or displaying special exhibitions to
> engender understanding instead of enmity?
>
> o  The election year is on its way.  Besides the
> circus here in California (oy vey), are any of you
> displaying exhibits about the voting process and
> especially in light of the ballyhoo that was the
> election of 2000?
>
> o  Which of you have exhibits about the Americans with
> Disabilities Act?
>
> o  The school year has either just started or soon
> will.  What things will you be doing differently this
> school year than you did last (lessons learned)?
>
> o  A new baby panda was born at the San Diego Zoo this
> week and a second fetus is due to be born.  They have
> been using a videocam.  How many of you have videocam
> feeds on your websites?
>
> o  In light of the virus situation and the fact that
> so many museums have so few resources to deal with
> computers, how many of you have been severely impacted
> and, are you networking with entities--i.e., asking
> for volunteers, etc.--from the private sector to
> assist you in these efforts.
>
> o  Do you seek in-kind donations from private
> corporations for your computer equipment/software, and
> what have been some of the better sources?
>
> o  After working for 10 years in the museum field,
> what coursework did you find you needed to go back and
> add to your educational base and/or refresh upon.
>
> There.  Hopefully you can find a topic to grab onto,
> and let's steer this ship back upright.
>
> Thanks again.
>
>
> --- calinda lee <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Points are well-taken.  But can we give this bashing
> > a rest now and get back to the great information
> > offered through this list?  It's rather
> > disconcerting when so much bad energy goes round and
> > round (even when justified).
> >
> > Colleagues, many thanks!
> >
> > Calinda Lee
> >
> > _____________
> > Calinda N. Lee, Ph.D.
> > Historian/ Consultant
> > [log in to unmask]
>
>
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