The vehemence demonstrated on this list toward
boarders disturbs me.  We should all be wise
enough to not be stereotypically label these kids as
spoiled rotten delinquent bastards.  Most are good
kids, young men and women.  If they had older remodels
that skate themselves, perhaps they
would learn to not be so destructive.   My friend owns
a local skate shop down the street and
adores talking to the kids that come in and setting
them up with good skating practices, showing
videos, playing music etc, and our community recently
built a skate park, absolutely thrilling the
kids. Skating is a passion and an art form to many
people out there, it is not just recreation. Not
to mention a subculture that has left a indelible mark
on our graphic design and underground
culture.  We need to learn to live peacefully with it.
 Saying no skateboards is not the solution.
The most destructive and belligerent boarders tend to
be the most visible ones and do not
represent all skaters.

It is a dilemma to be solved due to the destruction of
property, but bad mouthing the kids is not
the answer.  I am surprised so many are disturbed by
kids voicing what they want.  Extortion
indeed, where do you think they learned it from?
Amy
--- Audra Oliver <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> They will wax your steps creating a hazzard and a
> mess, they endanger pedestrians and discourage
> visitors, they are lippy and the skate board park
> will not satisfy them for long.
> You can reason & threaten. You can call the police.
> If your mayor opposes containing these liabilities
> on wheels it takes the area community, your board,
> other businesses and the like getting in his face to
> be able to do anything effective.  As an employee,
> you can get on the skaters only to the extent you
> are supported by your governing body.
> As I reminisce about skate boarders I remember how
> keenly tuned my hearing was to the "whir-chock;
> whir-chock" of their wheels. I could move pretty
> darned fast in response although  I should have had
> the non-emergency police number on speed dial.
>
> >>> [log in to unmask] 04/29/02 10:26AM >>>
> not only is there a problem with the art work, there
> is an extreme liability
> if the skate board flys up and hits someone in the
> head hurting or killing
> one of your other patrons.
>
> you will have the time of your life when you are
> sued for 15 million for a
> death of an innocent bystander.
>
> don't coddle the little bastards!
>
> be more than firm.  NO SKATEBOARDS!
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 6:59 AM
> Subject: Re: Problems with skateboarders on the
> museum property
>
>
> > Merri,
> >
> > Here, here!
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > Timothy S. Bottoms
> > Museum Registrar
> > Cape Fear Museum
> > 814 Market Street
> > Wilmington, North Carolina  28401-4731
> > 910.341.4350 x 3011
> > 910.341.4037 (fax)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                     Merri Pemberton
> >                     <[log in to unmask]>
> To:
> >                     Sent by: Museum
> [log in to unmask]
> >                     discussion list
> cc:     (bcc: archive)
> >                     <[log in to unmask]
> Subject:     Problems with
> >                     LSOFT.COM>
> skateboarders on the
> museum
> >
> property
> >
> >                     04/29/2002 09:09 AM
> >                     Please respond to
> >                     Museum discussion
> >                     list
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I have read some of the stories about the
> skateboarder problems. I
> > understand that these kids should have a place to
> skateboard, and that
> some
> > of the museum employees who wrote about this
> problem wanted to find a
> > peaceful solution, but shouldn't this problem be
> handled more firmly,
> > whereas you give fair warning to the skateboarders
> to not use the museum
> > facilities as a playground, and if you disregard
> this rule, you will have
> > to  face a punishment e.g. pay a fine, parents or
> children; or do
> community
> > service), and if that doesn't work, then maybe the
> authorities should talk
> > to the parents of these children.
> >
> >     A business, especially a museum with some of
> its artwork outside, must
> > be firm in dealing with these kids, and not have
> to cater to their every
> > whim - especially when not dealing with the
> educational purposes of the
> > museum. As a former teacher assistant and teacher,
> I know for a fact that
> > if us adults don't set boundaries, even to
> something like skateboarding on
> > the museum's grounds, then they won't learn to
> respect the museum as a
> > special place of education, not to be used as a
> stomping ground, or at
> > least not respect it as quickly.
> >
> >     Unfortanately, some of the children -not all
> of them- may not be
> > getting the discipline and boundaries that they
> need at home (another
> close
> > observation of a teacher/assistant teacher), so
> the rest of the adult
> > society have to sometimes bear the brunt. Well,  I
> must be going.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Merri
> >
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