Potentially, John, but given the fact that the list
had pushed me so far into back-up and a less civilized
person would have blasted them long ago, I think most
are able to recognize the frustration and forgive it.



--- John Suau <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> "Jesus Christ!"
>
> Might have been better received by a larger audience
> without this phrase,
> Gayle.
>
> John T. Suau, Manager
> Meetings, Professional Education and Diversity
> American Association of Museums
> 1575 Eye Street, NW - Suite 400
> Washington, DC 20005
> (202) 218-7676 (t)
> (202) 289-6578 (f)
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>
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>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Indigo Nights
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 1:54 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Amish Transportation Waste
> >
> >
> > Consider the wisdom of Eleanor Roosevelt:
> >
> > Great minds discuss ideas;
> > Average minds discuss events;
> > Small minds discuss people.
> >
> > AND
> >
> > No one can make you feel inferior without your
> > consent.
> >
> > To that, factor in the words of Albert Einstein:
> >
> > "Not everything that can be counted counts, and
> not
> > everything that counts can be counted. "
> >
> > "Only two things are infinite, the universe and
> human
> > stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."
> >
> >
> > I cannot believe the overabundance of Amish
> > Transportation Waste that seems to be flowing past
> my
> > screen with my name affixed to it!
> >
> > I have repeatedly stated that, while Indigo Nights
> is
> > but a nom de plume, do you doubt the existence of
> Mark
> > Twain or would you have only found value in what
> he
> > published had he relied upon the name Samuel
> Clemens?
> >
> > I am, inspite of the absolute crudity and rudity
> of
> > some of you, a person.  I am a person who has
> feelings
> > that some of you might reconsider revisiting once
> in a
> > while and decide if you would be so free with your
> > rather judgmental opinions if it were YOUR name
> > bandying the list or would you prefer that some
> > civility would be maintained and people contacted
> you
> > privately as you repeatedly requested?  In your
> quest
> > to become such a world reknown, pedigreed
> > professional, did you lose your manners in the
> > process?
> >
> > For those of you who had to walk 35 miles in the
> snow,
> > draw your water from the crick, and your parents
> took
> > you to museums on the backs of dinosaurs, have you
> > REALLY forgotten what it's like to be a young
> person
> > looking for a job?  If you're so God awful smart,
> I
> > certainly hope you deign to give us the wisdom of
> your
> > knowledge by grabbing one, or maybe a half dozen,
> of
> > those desiring to be mentored.
> >
> > While you grew up in a time when the family was
> more
> > intact--save for divorce--and Mother Cleaver was
> there
> > with her pearls on and fresh baked cookies, these
> are
> > kids who grew up in the latchkey era and often had
> > parents like you and me--and dammit, I'm 49 and
> save
> > for the months mid-October to present, I have
> worked
> > 31 years of my life (so don't tell me how hard it
> is
> > to hold a job and do the right thing)--who were
> out
> > working just to be able to provide them things
> instead
> > of experiences and caring oversight.  They had to
> make
> > an appointment with Grandma just to see her.
> >
> > So what if you did it the hard way!  These kids
> are
> > not whining.  They are asking, asking for help and
> for
> > the same kinds of things YOU want:  Information.
> And
> > they are using the same damned tool--and probably
> one
> > hell of a lot better (and you would be probably
> quite
> > wise to ask them for mentoring advice in that
> regard
> > if your ego will allow you to ask someone you
> presume
> > to be beneath you for help) that you are.
> >
> > For those of you who think a FAQ is a fabulous
> > idea--and I'm not arguing that it isn't, it's a
> great
> > idea--you might remember that, a few months ago I
> > offered to create one and asked for the list's
> help.
> > Do you know what I got in return?  The questions,
> but
> > not the answers.
> >
> > You want to say what you think the FAQ should
> contain,
> > but how many of you are willing to do completed
> staff
> > work?  Excuse me while I finish my self-indulgent
> > rant. Jesus Christ!  If I did that kind of work in
> > life, I'd never have survived much less made the
> kind
> > of salary I have.
> >
> > Maybe in some of your more enlightened studies,
> you
> > missed a class on time management.  Time
> management's
> > most basic precept is you handle each piece of
> mail
> > ONE time and dismiss it.  It was what I was
> fighting
> > for in those email messages some of you considered
> > spam.  Do not expect me to create some abstract
> for
> > you, and please understand that I've already
> explained
> > the rules of copyright, or at least their
> importance,
> > so be a love and dig it out yourself in the
> archives.
> >
> > MOST of the list is phenomenal.  Some of the best
> and
> > the brightest to be found.  Truly a lot of caring
> > people.
> >
> > But there are others of you that are so narcistic
> I
> > truly wonder if you can find a mirror large enough
> to
> > accommodate your ego.
> >
> > This is an all-purpose list as Patrick pointed
> out.
> > Yet some of you time and again want to limit it
> only
> > to things that interest YOU.  The problem is as
> the
> > rather insidious gentleman pointed out--instead of
> > contributing true insights about what is ongoing
> with
> > security and why in the hell are we still having
> such
> > theft in such an enlightened world and how can we
> > protect our museums from experiencing such
> > things--There are 2500 members.  How do you craft
> a
> > list that meets the personal needs of 2500.  Ever
> > share a bedroom with a sibling? Now imagine
> sharing it
> > with more than 2.5K.
> >
> > For those of you who have stomped on the young
> people
> > enough that some are considering leaving, may I
> remind
> > you of (what I remember as) a Nigerian Proverb:
> >
> > We did not inherit this world.  We are borrowing
> it
> > from our children.
> >
> > Please give them the respect they deserve!
> >
> > For my dear friend, Roger.  I'm afraid that here
> in
> > the states, we're not always as enlightened as we
> > should be.  My sisters and I now make 70 cents on
> the
> > dollar for the exact same job--and sometimes
> > more--than our brothers make, and those are the
> lucky
> > ones not born People of Color, People of
> Disability,
> > and People Who Are Different.
> >
> > I'm afraid the stigma, regrettably, still exists
> in
> > many segments of the population, and a strong,
> > self-confident, opinionated female is often not
> held
> > in equal regard.  See definition of a bitch.  I
> > certainly hope what you reflected is the
> experience in
> > New Zealand and that we here soon learn to
> emulate.
> >
> > To the young people on list:
> >
> > Don't you dare leave!  If you need to create a
> second
> > forum that discusses some of your specific
> concerns,
> > fine, but don't leave me behind (and don't get too
> > excited, dinosaur riders, I'm staying here, too).
> > I'll be more than happy to continue to send you
> the
> > information on jobs and the like, but I will not
> start
> > or run one.
> >
> > Remember the wisdom of Les Brown:
> >
> > Shoot for the moon.
> > Even if you miss, you'll land among the stars.
> >
> > So, for goodness sake and for all things good, ask
> on.
> > Do your homework and make your requests reasoned
> and
> > complete, but do not be intimidated by someone
> else's
> > bad manners.
> >
> > To my supporterss, not to worry.  I am fine.  I am
> > well. I am still lurking.
> >
> > I adhere strongly to the wisdom of Eleanor.  No
> one
> > has my permission to crawl in my head and make me
> feel
> > badly about myself, though there certainly has
> been an
> > overabundance of people who have tried this
> weekend.
> > For a moment, I was beginning to think my brain
> was
> > the tunnel between France and England, and some of
> you
> > were illegal immigrants seeking asylum in my mind.
>  No
> > jobs and no visas for you in my brain!
> >
> > If you want to support me, look at the post I did
> this
> > morning.  I've given you the sources, though I
> think I
> > left the Chicago Tribune off the newspaper
> section.
> > Pick up some part of that and YOU post it.  It was
> > never the quality of my posts to which the
> naysayers
> > took objection.  It was the quantity of times my
> name
> > went across my screen as though I did it for
> personal
> > glory (excuse me while I find the emesis basin).
> > Somehow I am reminded of Judy Collins:  Isn't it
> rich?
> >
> > This morning, I mistook my Johns.  Suau in my mind
> > became Chadwick.  But, nonetheless, I will go back
> to
> > lurking, posting no more than the mentoring posts
> (one
> > at a time so that each person has his/her
> opportunity)
> > and maybe a synopsis of the days digest after I
> have
> > addressed these points.  I have to. I've been
> holding
> > back too many phrases that strangely have a
> phonetic
> > similarity to brother truckers--and neither of my
> > brothers is in the trucking industry.
> >
> > In keeping with your request to consolidate
> messages,
> > I've done this in one note.
> >
> > For those of you who are as upset as am I that
> rancor
> > has made a home on the list, I leave you with the
> > words of the immortal Tupac Shakur:  "Keep Ya Head
> > Up."  They can't turn this into a "Gangsta's
> Party" if
> > we won't let them.
> >
> > Now I'm going to go shut the truck up.
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> > http://victorian.fortunecity.com/stanmer/414
> >
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