I think some goo dpoints have been raised in the last few days, and I have to agree that I was collapsing the terms "science" and "technology" more than I should. But, I received a fascinating post from GEODESIC-L that is certainly food for thought. Science, or religion? This was posted as "Bucky's Prayer" and written by Buckminster Fuller, scientist and thinker. Those in a hurry, a word of caution. Its a wee bit long. Enjoy. Craig Rosa > >Per request from Kevin Sahr, the following is a transcription from a 1976 >"Being With Bucky", New Dimensions Tapes, side 15 (parsing and punctuation >by transcriptionist). > >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Our God, who art in we even, >even we who know most intimately >of our own weaknesses, failures, faults, and outright sins >our selfishness, fear and cupidity, >of our moments of jealousy, rage and hate >secret cover-ups, lies and self-deceits >God even of we > Our God -- our intuitively-apprehended comprehensive-admonisher >Omni-experienced is your identity, >the everywhere and everywhen evolving omnireality >is your presence > >and as the reality differs _uniquely_ from moment to moment >in respect to each individual >so do you speak to each >in exquisitely relevant, instructive terms >regarding that which the individual >can most effectively do >not in behalf of self >but in behalf of all humanity > >and Thus in support of the intellectual functioning of humans >thereby in local universe support >of the eternal integrity of omniregenerative universe >which is God. > >As omniexperience, you have given us >overwhelming manifest >of your complete knowledge >your complete comprehension >your complete concern >your complete wisdom >your complete responsibility >your complete co-ordination >your complete competence to cope >with any and all problems >and of your utter reliability >always so to do >Yours, dear God, is all the glory. > > * * * > >We oft-times think of ourselves >as independent individuals >able to get on by ourselves >by our own wits >forgetting altogether >that we did not invent those wits >nor the incredibly complex, 99.9% automated >biological organisms >nor the rest of the universe >with which they interfunction, >all of which is entirely >the prior competent conceptioning >only of God. >Yes dear God, yours _is_ all the Glory. > >You are the totally mysterious >eternal integrity, both comprehensively >and incisively governing >the omni-intercomplementation and omni-interaccomodation >of all physical and metaphysical experiences >of ever and everywhere >separately and complexedly intertransforming >omni-regenerative universe. > >You are the synergetic integral of all truths. >We have absolute trust and faith in you >and we wish of you >awe-inspiredly, thankfully, rejoicingly and lovingly -- >for it's spontaneously feasable >for humans to be wishful of the truth >in awe of the truth >thankful for the truth >to rejoice in the truth >and to love the truth >and to love all the truths combined >for all truths are omni-interaccomodative >as are all the >only mathematically-statable generalized principles >discovered by human minds, >experimentally verified by science >to be externally governing >complex interrelationships of physical universe. > > * * * > >Truths and principles never contradict one another. >They are all concurrently omni-interaccomodative >and all the truths are metaphysical cognitions >by humans >of special-case realizations >of eternally-valid generalized principles. > >It is only through many repeated experiences and recognitions >of the eternal principles >their non-contradicting interaccomodations >that each individual human >progressively and only intuitively discovers the existence of >eternal principles and their special-case manifests >and the truths of everyday events >and all the truths, as our lives discover them, >trend to integrate in synergetic perfection >beyond the special-case experiencing >of inherently terminal >ergo inherently limited >human conceptioning, comprehension and communication... vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv Craig M. Rosa Home Phone: (718) 834-6894 Email: [log in to unmask] BCM Phone: (718) 735-4432 M.A. student, Performance Studies/Museum Studies, NYU ,^^^^^^^^ PT Greenhouse Instructor, The Brooklyn Children's Museum ,^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^