On two days ago I was at a trade show here in Toronto where Microsoft was demonstrating Access v2.0 (due for release in the next few months). It was very impressive. They have incorporated FoxPro's query optimizer so that it has the same speed as Fox. Thet have also improved the database documentation and added visual design features (and a lot more Wizards) to make it more CASE like. It should make it much easier for end-users to do their own reports, queries, etc. from the server. Richard Gerrard [log in to unmask]