Original message: I was interested in finding out the names and phone numbers of companies that specialize in utilizing and producing audio and visual components to exhibtion. I am not looking for audio component systems but rather consultants who could come in and suggest how to incorporate various types audio/video programming in an exhibit. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Erica, We offer a free Designer's Guide to Interactive Electronics which has a section on solidstate audio. If you are interested, his may be of some help to you. You can receive a copy by going to our website (http://www.INNOVA-AT.com/ ) and filling out the form (found in the "more info" area. Be forewarned, we are experiencing some problems with the form on the website and it will probably give you an error message. However, we are receiving the information and we'll try to confirm receipt within a day or so. -Mark- <> Mark Fowle, General Manager <> INNOVA Applied Technology <> 2701 St. Louis Ave. Suite C <> Long Beach, CA 90806 <> Email: [log in to unmask] <> http://www.INNOVA-AT.com/ <> Phone: (562) 427-6726 <> Fax: (562) 427-0699 * Providers of Interactive Solutions * ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:02:55 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: endzweig <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Loan fees MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi everyone! In recent discussions regarding a loan of ethnographic baskets to another state museum, I was asked if we charge a loan fee. I was also told that this is quite common. Is this true? In your experience, what does the fee cover -- processing, documentation, packing, shipping? How much is charged, and is it assessed per item? Does this apply equally to "public" and private institutions (my vantage point is that of a state university museum)? I don't know if this is of general interest to the List; I can be reached personally at <[log in to unmask]>. Many thanks, as always, for your help! -- Pam ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Pamela E. Endzweig Staff Archaeologist/Collections Manager Oregon State Museum of Anthropology/UO Museum of Natural History 1224 University of Oregon, Eugene, OR 97403-1224 USA Ph 541-346-5090/5120 Fx 541-346-5122 [log in to unmask] ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 12:36:46 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Meeker, Amanda" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Blockbuster discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain While I find the crowds of "blockbuster" shows irritating now, I loved the first one I ever saw, which was the King Tut in San Francisco. I was in the fourth grade, and while I remember waiting in an interminable line, I remember the objects inside much more vividly. (Perhaps the crowd that day was inclined to let a little kid up to the front, I don't know.) I was so fascinated that, once back at home, I read several books about the exhibition and about the Egyptians. While it would probably be fair to classify my experience as superficial, I still did get quite a bit out of it. So these big shows sometimes can be a positive experience. Amanda Meeker > ---------- > From: Rax[SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > Reply To: Museum discussion list > Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 2:42 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Blockbuster discussion > > Meriah wrote: > > >When I was a 8 we went to see King Tut at the Met. I had wanted to > see > >this so badly that we treked across the country and stayed with > >relatives to do so. Most of what I can remember is my parents > hoisting > >me up, again and again, onto their shoulders to look over a sea of > >people's heads at the artifacts. It was exciting and still magical > for > >an 8 year old kid, but not at all what I had expected. I was > >disappointed to not be able to see the works up close. > > > > Back in the '70 I worked in the conservation deptartment at the MMA. I > designed and built the mounts and installed the Tut exhibit at each of > the > museums in the US tour, but never actually went throught it when it > was > open to the public until the final stop back at the MMA. After > spending > considerable "contemplative time" with the objects over the previous > months, I was appalled at the density of the crowds and wondered how > many > of those people really saw the exhibit on any but the most superficial > level. > > That has been my general take on blockbuster shows ever since. They > offer > the public a superficial experience and the opportunity to buy > souvenirs > and tell their friends that they've been to a trendy popular event. > For the > museum administration, they draw crowds, make money and attract > benefactors. Of course, the fact that blockbuster shows are also a > pain for > the staff and take time away from the daily operations is irrelevant > in the > context of the museum as a corporation. > > On the other hand, they often bring together related works from > wide-ranging sources and give us the opportunity to see a > comprehensive > collection that would be otherwise impossible. > > R. > > -- > > > ____________________________________________________ > Warbaby > The WebSite. The Domain. The Empire. > http://www.warbaby.com > > The MonkeyPool > WebSite Content Development > http://www.monkeypool.com > ____________________________________________________ > > Once you get the nose on, the rest is just makeup. > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:57:41 -0600 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: kathy <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Loan fees MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >In recent discussions regarding a loan of ethnographic baskets to another >state museum, I was asked if we charge a loan fee. I was also told that >this is quite common. Is this true? In your experience, what does the fee >cover -- processing, documentation, packing, shipping? How much is >charged, and is it assessed per item? Does this apply equally to "public" >and private institutions (my vantage point is that of a state university >museum)? We don't charge a "loan fee" but we do require that the borrowing institution pay for an appraisal, packing, shipping and insurance. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 08:04:35 +1000 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Millward, Peter" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Mailing list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain there appears to be a typo here. Surely it ought to read Lou Ann Grump Peter Millward Manager Education & Visitor Services Melbourne Museum 9651 8162 > ---------- > From: Lou Ann Gump[SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > Reply To: Museum discussion list > Sent: Friday, 15 January 1999 2:15 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Mailing list > > Please remove me from all your lists. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:02:10 EST Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Robert Mac West <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Blockbuster discussion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit With all these comments about superficiality and crowds and staff being diverted from their real jobs - which implies that the public is not part of their real jobs - I suggest that we all look at who supports museums. Remember, most are 5.01(c)3 public charities which pay no taxes and exist for "educational, charitable and/or scientific purposes." If the appearance of a highly hyped show creates reasons for just plain old people (taxpayers) to use their possessions (even private museums are tax-supported by the mere absence of taxes), if a kid is stimulated to go home and read a book, if a museum becomes a memorable experience, if paying audiences and donors provide more funding, isn't this what should be happening? I take exception to the tone of many of the comments I have read over the last several days and urge the museum industry to be more aware of who feeds it and why. Mac West ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 15:13:14 -0600 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Lisa A. Goodgame" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Marion Koogler McNay Art Museum Subject: Re: Loan fees MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe our museum charges a fee per object, expected to cover the expenses of packing, shipping, insurance, etc. endzweig wrote: > > Hi everyone! > > In recent discussions regarding a loan of ethnographic baskets to another > state museum, I was asked if we charge a loan fee. I was also told that > this is quite common. Is this true? In your experience, what does the fee > cover -- processing, documentation, packing, shipping? How much is > charged, and is it assessed per item? Does this apply equally to "public" > and private institutions (my vantage point is that of a state university > museum)? > > I don't know if this is of general interest to the List; I can be reached > personally at <[log in to unmask]>. Many thanks, as always, for > your help! -- Pam > ____________________________________________________________________________ > ________ > > Pamela E. Endzweig > Staff Archaeologist/Collections Manager > Oregon State Museum of Anthropology/UO Museum of Natural History > 1224 University of Oregon, Eugene, OR 97403-1224 USA > Ph 541-346-5090/5120 Fx 541-346-5122 > [log in to unmask] ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:38:30 MST7MDT Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Phyllis Oppenheim <[log in to unmask]> Organization: College of Southern Idaho Subject: Re: Loan fees In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> This is of great interest please send replies to the listserv. Thank you. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 13:12:24 PST Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: ALLISON RAILO <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Blockbuster reactions Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would venture to say that because of the nature of this list we "museum= people" are having a certain reaction to the crowds at blockbuster exhibi= tions that is similar to the feelings some people have about those who attend c= hurch only on Christmas Eve. Perhaps we feel that we are more deserving of the opportunity to see the works without the crowds because we are already de= voted to the museum and the shows that may be less popular. = I don't mean this in any way to be a negative comment, but I am taking th= e risk to express my own initial reaction to the crowds at the recent Picas= so show in Los Angeles. I was frustrated at having to wait in line, and deal= with the visitors who have very little consideration for the people around the= m, while trying to see the paintings over people's heads. But then I took a moment to realize how wonderful it was to see such a variety of people th= ere to experience and appreciate the art! I stopped myself and remembered all= the discussions in my MA courses about increasing audiences and attracting ma= ny different people - and here it was right in front of me. So - I'm hoping = that I can visit the Van Gogh show during the week, when there may be less peo= ple. And even if I can't experience empty galleries and stand in the middle of= the room to see all the paintings around me, I will appreciate the fact that = there may be a first time museum visitor standing right next to me - and maybe = they will be encouraged to come back. ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.amexmail.com/?A=3D1= ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 00:07:00 +0200 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Monika Gause <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: other list serves In-Reply-To: <000901be3fc4$9e6f8080$1f00a8c0@Registrar> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello Jennifer, you can try these sites, when you're looking for Mailing-Lists: http://www.liszt.com http://www.lisde.de (German Lists) http://www.kbx.com http://www.reference.com Kind regards, Monika Gause mediawerk hamburg http://www.mediawerk.de ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:02:53 -0600 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Dana Self <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Kemper Museum Subject: Re: Loan fees MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We don't charge loan fees for borrowed individual objects, but do require the borrowing institution to pay for a new crate for our objects (normally paintings) and pay for rt shipping. Dana Self, Curator, Kemper Museum of Contemporary Art, KCMO Phyllis Oppenheim wrote: > > This is of great interest please send replies to the listserv. > Thank you. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:15:29 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Olivia S. Anastasiadis" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: salary changes??? On the other hand, the hard gains made by the past staff is now enjoyed by the current staff; recently the gift shop manager left, after being here for almost ten years; they gave her outgoing salary to the incoming manager; isn't that ironic? And I don't want to get into a gender discussion here, it just happened that way. We just need to continue asking for more pay for the work we do, it's that simple. Okay, enough said. O Olivia S. Anastasiadis, Curator Richard Nixon Library & Birthplace 18001 Yorba Linda Boulevard Yorba Linda, CA 92886 (714) 993-5075 ext. 224; fax (714) 528-0544; e-mail: [log in to unmask] On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:18:48 PST [log in to unmask] writes: >I can verify that, at least in my position. I just began heading a >department and, from looking at past memos and paperwork from five >years >ago, am getting paid what the assistant was getting paid in the past. >Welcome to the "fiscally responsible" museum. The trend in museum >employment(maybe all jobs in general, I've never worked in the >for-profit >field) seems to be hiring the next person in line for the same job at >half >the salary with twice as much work. I love my job, but the low salary >does >make pursuing another line of work tempting. The low salary won't >convince >me to change careers, but it does make me less loyal to the >institution, and >directors and finance administrators need to realize that the quality >of >museums are affected by the constant slashing/burning of salaries. >People >are not willing to stay in positions for more than a few years if they >feel >exploited, and a "revolving door" workplace is not exactly productive. > > > >On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:12:45 -0800, Catherine Kenyon wrote: > >> Dear colleagues, >> >> I have recently re-entered the museum job search arena, as well as >re- >> enlisted to the museum-L, and I have been shocked at what seems to >be a >> decrease in wages from 5 years ago. Yes I do remember salaries >being low >> in comparison to work load and other professions, but they seem >$5-8K >less >> than I recall. >> >> I'm interested in hearing from any of you who have been >continuously, for >> the last 8-10 years, in hiring positions and can tell me if this is >an >> actual trend, or just sticker shock. >> >> Thank you, Catherine Kenyon > > > > > >_______________________________________________________ >Get your free, private email at http://mail.excite.com/ > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 10:09:44 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Olivia S. Anastasiadis" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Mailing list You can type, then you can read, here's the FAQs - go to town! And Good Luck. Once again, here is the semi-regular posting of the Museum-L FAQ file. > > The Museum Discussion List (Museum-L) > Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) > Last Revised: July 6, 1998 > >1. OUTLINE. > 2. PURPOSE. > 3. HISTORY. > 4. OWNER. > 5. SOFTWARE. > 6. JOINING / SUBSCRIBING. > 6.1 From the Internet. > 6.2 From CompuServe. > 6.3 From America OnLine. > 6.4 From L-Soft's Web site > 7. LEAVING / UNSUBSCRIBING. > 8. POSTING MESSAGES. > 8.1 From the Internet. > 8.2 From BITNET. > 8.3 From CompuServe. > 8.4 From America OnLine. > 9. MANAGING / CONTROLLING YOUR MESSAGES. > 9.1 NOMAIL/MAIL Option. > 9.2 REVIEW Command. > 9.3 NOREPRO Command. > 9.4 DIGEST Option. > 9.5 OPTIONS Command. > 10. USENET GROUP. > 11. ARCHIVES. > 12. RELATED DISCUSSION LISTS. > 13. RETENTION OF THE MUSEUM-L FAQ. > 14. COPIES OF THE MUSEUM-L FAQ. > 15. 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We gratefully acknowledge the >contributions and suggestions of the following reviewers: Mignon >Erixon-Stanford, Guy Hermann, Katherine Jones-Garmil and Suzanne >Quigley. > >Please send any corrections or suggestions for FUTURE additions or >improvements to the "Museum-L FAQ" to the listowner (see above). > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= John Chadwick, Ed.D. Network Administrator and Web Administrator New Mexico Museum of Natural History and Science 1801 Mountain Road NW Albuquerque, NM 87104 [log in to unmask], http://museums.state.nm.us/nmmnh/ phone: (505) 841-2843 FAX (505) 841-2866 Cellular (505) 264-4460 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= O Olivia S. Anastasiadis, Curator Richard Nixon Library & Birthplace 18001 Yorba Linda Boulevard Yorba Linda, CA 92886 (714) 993-5075 ext. 224; fax (714) 528-0544; e-mail: [log in to unmask] On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 08:15:49 -0800 Lou Ann Gump <[log in to unmask]> writes: >Please remove me from all your lists. > > > > > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 09:17:57 +1000 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Leith, Adrienne" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Mailing list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Yesterday, I sent you a direct message of how to get off the list, as did a couple of other people that I saw. Read back my dear before you drive us all crazy. > ---------- > From: Lou Ann Gump[SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > Reply To: Museum discussion list > Sent: Friday, 15 January 1999 2:15 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Mailing list > > Please remove me from all your lists. > > > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 14:14:26 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Crystal Martin <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Mailing list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ---Lou Ann Gump <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Please remove me from all your lists. > > Please remove me from all of your lists also. > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:32:44 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "William St. Pierre" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: lists of lists MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0071_01BE3FE3.E4C081A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01BE3FE3.E4C081A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some time ago someone on the list posted an address for a web site that = has various lists available for subscription. This site had lists to = serve almost any interest. Unfortunately I lost that address. If = anyone out there has it please post it again. Thank you! ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01BE3FE3.E4C081A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML> <HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 4.72.3110.7"' name=3DGENERATOR> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"" size=3D3>Some time ago someone on = the list posted=20 an address for a web site that has various lists available for=20 subscription. This site had lists to serve almost any = interest. =20 Unfortunately I lost that address. If anyone out there has it = please post=20 it again. Thank you!</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01BE3FE3.E4C081A0-- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 17:56:32 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Kathryn Huss <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Subscribe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Please subscribe me. I would like to post employment opportunities at the University of Michigan Museum of Art. Is that appropriate? Thank you. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Kathryn A. Huss, Administrator University of Michigan Museum of Art 734/647-0517 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:22:57 -0700 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Arthur H. Harris" <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Lab for Environmental Biology, UTEP Subject: Re: Loan fees MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Generally speaking, natural history museums don't charge loan fees. We're pretty much dependent on free interchange of the limited material available that (usually) has relatively little monetary value (and often great scientific value). Those of us who tend to have more incoming than outgoing loans probably come out ahead, but this is a system that seems to have worked out well for a long time. Loan fees almost certainly would decrease loan activity, and natural science research would suffer as a result. Dana Self wrote: > > We don't charge loan fees for borrowed individual objects, but do require the > borrowing institution to pay for a new crate for our objects (normally > paintings) and pay for rt shipping. Dana Self, Curator, Kemper Museum of > Contemporary Art, KCMO > > Phyllis Oppenheim wrote: > > > > This is of great interest please send replies to the listserv. > > Thank you. Art Harris -- Laboratory for Environmental Biology Centennial Museum (Natural and Cultural History) phone (915)747-6985; fax (915)747-5808; [log in to unmask] http://www.utep.edu/leb http://www.utep.edu/museum ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:15:28 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Gerry Crouse <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: lists of lists MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01BE3FF2.3F60DA20" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BE3FF2.3F60DA20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable One site is: http://www.catalog.com/vivian/ This will lead you to the List of Lists. Another site is the Publicly Available Mailing Lists site at: http://www.neosoft.com/internet/paml/ Hope that helps. Gerry Crouse Algonquin Travel Gloucester, ON Canada ----- Original Message -----=20 From: William St. Pierre=20 Newsgroups: bit.listserv.museum-l To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, January 14, 1999 5:32 PM Subject: lists of lists Some time ago someone on the list posted an address for a web site = that has various lists available for subscription. This site had lists = to serve almost any interest. Unfortunately I lost that address. If = anyone out there has it please post it again. Thank you! ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BE3FF2.3F60DA20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3Dtext/html;charset=3Diso-8859-1 = http-equiv=3DContent-Type><!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD W3 = HTML//EN"> <META content=3D'"MSHTML 5.00.0910.1309"' name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>One site is:</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20 href=3D"http://www.catalog.com/vivian/">http://www.catalog.com/vivian/</A= ></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>This will lead you to the List of = Lists.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Another site is the Publicly Available Mailing Lists = site=20 at:</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2><A=20 href=3D"http://www.neosoft.com/internet/paml/">http://www.neosoft.com/int= ernet/paml/</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hope that helps.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Gerry Crouse<BR>Algonquin Travel<BR>Gloucester, ON=20 Canada</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20 <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20 href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"=20 [log in to unmask]>William St. Pierre</A> </DIV> <DIV><B>Newsgroups:</B> bit.listserv.museum-l</DIV> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]"=20 [log in to unmask]>[log in to unmask]</A> = </DIV> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 14, 1999 5:32 PM</DIV> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> lists of lists</DIV></DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 face=3D"" size=3D3>Some time ago someone on = the list=20 posted an address for a web site that has various lists available for=20 subscription. This site had lists to serve almost any = interest. =20 Unfortunately I lost that address. If anyone out there has it = please=20 post it again. Thank = you!</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01BE3FF2.3F60DA20-- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 18:12:35 EST Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: STOP Giving it AWAY! Start getting PAID for it!! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Own your own online PC store/consulting Business! Get paid for your computer knowledge instead of giving it away. Not too computer literate - no worry, we have an option for you too! VERY LOW setup Cost. No other fees involved.Full training provided. Perfect home business. Team with IBM, Compaq and Lexmark! 11 income steams! Stock options available! email [log in to unmask] ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:37:56 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Jane Thomson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Gump Would you push your way into a crowded convention hall with maybe 1000 delegates, climb onto the stage and begin shouting that you're bored and you want to leave, and then order everyone to show you the way out? Well, that's what you're doing...repeatedly. You're an ill-mannered pest. At 09:17 AM 15/01/99 +1000, you wrote: >Yesterday, I sent you a direct message of how to get off the list, as did a >couple of other people that I saw. Read back my dear before you drive us >all crazy. > >> ---------- >> From: Lou Ann Gump[SMTP:[log in to unmask]] >> Reply To: Museum discussion list >> Sent: Friday, 15 January 1999 2:15 >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Mailing list >> >> Please remove me from all your lists. >> >> >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> DO YOU YAHOO!? >> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com >> > > Jane Sproull Thomson ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 19:37:58 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Jane Thomson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Mailing list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Read the instructions. Sending a message to 1500 people is not how you get off the list. You joined, figure it out. At 02:14 PM 14/01/99 -0800, you wrote: >---Lou Ann Gump <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> Please remove me from all your lists. >> >> Please remove me from all of your lists also. >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________________ >> DO YOU YAHOO!? >> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com >> > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > Jane Sproull Thomson ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:39:38 -0600 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Eckie Prater <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Railroad/Train Museum Contacts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello list, I am looking for contacts with museums or professionals who have been involved with preserving and/or moving old train cars and other railroad equipment. Our museum is building, as part of a complete old western town, an 1880 era cattle car. We are looking for a wheel set (one truck) and about 100 feet of rail. Narrow guage or standard is okay. Cattle car door, structural hardware and a brake wheel desirable. This exhibit is inside and the wheel set unit would be restored for display as part of the reconstructed cattle car. Other rail related turn of the century items for the station and track side would also be welcome. Please contact me off list at [log in to unmask] Thank you, Eckie Prater, Facility Operations Manager, National Cowboy Hall of Fame, Oklahoma City, Oklahoma. http://www.cowboyhalloffame.org/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:42:52 EST Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Subject: !! Wanted Home Product Assemblers !! 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Box 633 Rocky Mount NC 27802 Name ___________________________________________ Address ___________________________________________ City & State ___________________________________________ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:20:51 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Allison DeLacy <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Mailing list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am still waiting to be taken off your list. [log in to unmask] > Read the instructions. Sending a message to 1500 people is not how you get > off the list. You joined, figure it out. > > > > At 02:14 PM 14/01/99 -0800, you wrote: > >---Lou Ann Gump <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> > >> Please remove me from all your lists. > >> > >> Please remove me from all of your lists also. > >> > >> > >> > >> _________________________________________________________ > >> DO YOU YAHOO!? > >> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >> > > > >_________________________________________________________ > >DO YOU YAHOO!? > >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > Jane Sproull Thomson > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 20:22:36 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Allison DeLacy <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Mailing list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I am still trying to be taken off your mailing list. [log in to unmask] _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 15:26:29 +1000 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Leith, Adrienne" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Mailing list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Do we love Gump and DeLacey? Do we eagerly wait to hear their charming and independent snippets of wisdom? Okay, a last attempt at getting through to G and D and anyone else who wants to GET OFF THE LIST.... Send a message to [log in to unmask] which states "SIGN OFF MUSEUM-l". That's all folks... Adrienne Leith > ---------- > From: Allison DeLacy[SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > Reply To: Museum discussion list > Sent: Friday, 15 January 1999 14:20 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Mailing list > > I am still waiting to be taken off your list. > [log in to unmask] > > > > Read the instructions. Sending a message to 1500 people is not how > you get > > off the list. You joined, figure it out. > > > > > > > > At 02:14 PM 14/01/99 -0800, you wrote: > > >---Lou Ann Gump <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > >> > > >> Please remove me from all your lists. > > >> > > >> Please remove me from all of your lists also. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _________________________________________________________ > > >> DO YOU YAHOO!? > > >> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > >> > > > > > >_________________________________________________________ > > >DO YOU YAHOO!? > > >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > Jane Sproull Thomson > > > > _________________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com >