Thanks for sharing. I kind of liked it. O e-mail: [log in to unmask] On Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:43:06 -0700 "Bartlema, Lauri, L." <[log in to unmask]> writes: >before anyone has a fit, we know each other, and I'm sure he didn't >mean >to send this to the list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > >Lauri L. Bartlema >Curatorial Assistant >Conservation Division >Directorate of Environment >Fort Bliss, Texas > >> ---------- >> From: Arthur H. Harris[SMTP:[log in to unmask]] >> Reply To: Museum discussion list >> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 1998 7:52 AM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: experience >> >> Gosh--all this intelligence coming out of a _used_ brain! (Clarify, >> if you will--according to modern practice, "used" is no longer >> used--instead, things are "pre-owned"--does this go for female >> brains?) >> >> "Bartlema, Lauri, L." wrote: >> > >> > Educational requirements ARE ratcheting higher and higher, but not >> just >> > in the Museum-job world. It's popping up everywhere. My mother >is >> a >> > nurse, and has been a nurse for many years. She has a Bachelors >in >> > nursing. She has worked for the same city institution for YEARS, >> yet >> > they have just decided that they will no longer hire any nurses >that >> do >> > not have a Masters in nursing. And that all their current nurses >> must >> > earn a Masters, in their own copious spare time, by the year 2002, >> or >> > they will be let go. This is one instance where experience >matters >> not >> > a bit. >> > >> > I personally think that in a society where more and more people >are >> > going straight to college after high school, there has been >created >> a >> > pool of "higher educated" people for companies to choose from. >> Since >> > more and more people are getting more education, the >> > companies/institutions can and have raised their expectations as >far >> as >> > the requirements of entry level and higher positions are >concerned. >> > What most haven't raised is their salary rate. I agree with the >> people >> > who have stated that as long as there are people who are willing >to >> work >> > for the ridiculously low wages, then the wages will not go up, at >> least >> > not until the Federal Govt forces them up with an increase in >> minimum >> > wage. In my opinion, this goes on the list of "sad but true" >things. >> > >> > Lauri L. Bartlema >> > Curatorial Assistant >> > Conservation Division >> > Directorate of Environment >> > Fort Bliss, Texas >> > >> > > ---------- >> > > From: E.J. Karetny[SMTP:[log in to unmask]] >> > > Reply To: Museum discussion list >> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 4:21 PM >> > > To: [log in to unmask] >> > > Subject: Re: experience >> > > >> > > ok, say you have a master's but not in museum studies and youre >> > > looking >> > > for work in natural history, say collections. you have a little >> > > experience as a curatorial assistant. is this "enough" >experience >> (at >> > > the very very least shows experience and interest or >> something...)? >> > > would you benefit from yet another academic debt with a master >in >> > > museum >> > > studies? when everyone ends up with this degre, what will they >> demand >> > > of you next? >> > > this is not meant to sound bitter but i'm just getting the >feeling >> > > that >> > > the educational requirements are ratcheting higher and higher. >> > > >> > > looking forward to responses, ejk >> > > >> >> -- >> Laboratory for Environmental Biology >> Centennial Museum (Natural and Cultural History) >> phone (915)747-6985; fax (915)747-5808; [log in to unmask] >> http://www.utep.edu/leb http://www.utep.edu/museum >> > ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]