Jennifer, I am afraid you are as yet unaware of one of the plain truths of the museum profession- that those of us who work in museum's are generally non-profit. And I am not talking about the museum! Arlyn Danielson ---------- From: jennifer carlquist[SMTP:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Friday, April 17, 1998 3:51 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: JOB OPPORTUNITY: Museum Director, Golden State Museum Dear Hervi Gagnon, As a student in her last month of art history undergraduate status, I have just begun to examine seriously the employment prospects of our chosen field. They are, as you have pointed out, meager in availability and compensation. I myself net about $6.50/hr as the only staff member working in collections management in a university museum. I gain invaluable experience, and the museum gets good work at very little expense. At work I have absolutely no budget. My exhibit catalogs are black and white, designed on my school computer and xeroxed. The office once had to function for a week without letterhead stationary, having no money to pay the printers. Everyone I work with has been laid off at least partially sometime in the last three years. I accept that museum budgets are tight. But the misconception that we are non-profit professionals is unacceptable. We're not - we're professionals who work for non-profits. Unfortunately, it's uv filtration for the windows or a livable wage for me. It hardly makes for a black bank account, but I think we're supposed to pick the windows. Jennifer Carlquist [log in to unmask] Glensheen Estate, Property of the University of Minnesota-Duluth On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Herve Gagnon wrote: > I couldn't agree more with Arlyn. How can a professional establish any long- > and medium-term employment strategy if salaries are never disclosed before > application? But I notice that there are only 4 or 5 of us who are actually > participating to this debate. I'd be interested to know what others think > about this. > > Herve Gagnon > > Arlyn Danielson a ecrit: > > > Perhaps you are comparing apples and kiwis. Museums are obviously in a far > > different bracket money wise than IBM etc.. To answer your question, I > > have seen more than my fair share of game playing with salaries and ranges. > > All I would like to see is reasonable salary information being offered up > > front in order for a museum professional to make an informed decision on > > what he/she should do, or strategy to take. This is not unreasonable, but > > I appreciate your feedback. > > > > ---------- > > From: Ross Weeks[SMTP:[log in to unmask]] > > Sent: Thursday, April 16, 1998 10:18 AM > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: JOB OPPORTUNITY: Museum Director, Golden State Museum > > > > For what it's worth, have you ever seen IBM "advertise" for a CEO or VP at > > a > > salary range (negotiable based on KSAs) of between $1,250,000 and > > $18,000,000 excluding options, bonuses and perquisities? > > > > Have you ever seen the White House advertise for ANY of its employees? > > > > Have you ever seen advertisements that specify a salary range for a > > particular job (as required by policy, state regs, whatever) only to find > > that the state, the museum, or someone has dictated that only the entry > > salary can actually be offered? > > > > Do you know of people who have accepted positions not just for the > > compensation, but because of the quality of the museum, its location, its > > potential, etc.? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Arlyn Danielson <[log in to unmask]> > > Newsgroups: bit.listserv.museum-l > > > > >I for one have never enjoyed digging around for salary information that is > > >not posted or included in an ad. Usually I find out what I am looking > > for, > > >but in some instances, it's like pulling teeth. I don't like to waste > > >anyone's time- mostly mine, if a position is not a good match. Someone > > >mentioned previously that if a museum doesn't mention a salary, or at > > least > > >a range, it almost seems like they have something to hide, or they are > > >ashamed of what they offer. In this case, shame is good! -- As hard > > >working museum professionals, many of us wish for and deserve higher > > >salaries. >