Our collections database is in FileMaker Pro 3.0 and we are currently developing other files that utilize the relational functions of that version to streamline collection management tasks. We have created a loan form with these relational aspects that works well as a loan form but so far we are unable to further manipulate the date in the manner we want. We're not even sure if FileMaker is able to do what we want. On the loan form, the basic registration information for the loan (Loan ID #, Borrower's name and address, Loan period, etc.) are listed in Global fields in a title header and are individual to each loan. The body of the form includes the listing of the objects to be lent. When we type in the catalog number of an object, with the relational functions, FileMaker automatically enters other pertinent information (such as name of object, culture, description, measurements, etc.) by linking them from the main database. This is done with related fields as opposed to a lookup. Each object (along with accompanying information fields) comprises a separate record in the loan file. This serves as the hard copy. After a loan is completed, we would like to move the loan file's registration information (from the Title Header Global Fields) and the list of loan objects' catalog numbers (from the individual records in the file) into a master loan file so that the original loan file would actually serve as a template for subsequent loans. For permanent record keeping purposes we only need a record of what objects were lent to whom, when, and for what purpose. Specific cataloging information for objects will still be available in the main database so we see no need to duplicate it in the master loan file. Because neither the name of a borrower or a particular object is unique to any one loan, we thought that perhaps we could organize the master loan file by the Loan ID#. Using FileMaker's Portal function, we can view records in this manner with the list of catalog numbers appearing in the portal. However, once the loan form is cleared, the catalog numbers are also deleted from the portal in the master file. It would seem that there must be a way fir FileMaker Pro to do what we want but we haven't been able to find it yet. Would would appreciate advise from any FileMaker Pro 3.0 users. Andy Lax Russell Hartman