Some weird subjects seem to arouse weird discussions and interests... Anyway, just to add a little to that: Amsterdam has a Torture Museum. I was hesitant to mention it at first [this just makes the doubtful stereotype of Amsterdam slightly worse I suppose] and I'm not too sure on the museum level of it. I've never visited the place. But then again, it's not the subject for it either (or am I wrong on that?). Do let me know if more information on it is needed. Jaap Boter ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [log in to unmask] | Life is like a sewer; what you get Arts Administration & Management | out of it, depends on what you put Utrecht University | into it. [Tom Lehrer]