David getting fake service dog vest in Los Angeles is about as easy as buying dog food.   I know plenty of people with fake vest.   
for liquids I would just contact ADA and ask them what you can and can not ask them to do.   Then you aren't guessing anymore.   

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On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 3:57 PM, topladave . <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
This is all very simple. Anyone with a chronic and potentially life threatening medical condition such as Diabetes should be able to carry small amounts of medicine or food that can help them, but they should, for their own good, have a med-alert bracelet so if they are impaired anyone helping them can identify the problem (including EMT's).

Larger liquids should not go into the galleries but on request can be kept at the front desk or other safe place where they can retrieve it if needed.

As far as people "faking" ADA status, sure some of it happens, but it is not a huge problem and in the case of service animals they are required to wear vests and have certified identification for the animal. So it shouldn't be that hard that it is seen as a problem.

Cheers!
Dave

David Harvey
Senior Conservator & Museum Consultant
Los Angeles CA  USA
www.cityofangelsconservation.weebly.com

On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Sarah Burroughs <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I also just want to add that simply because a person does not have a blood test kit or specifically say they have diabetes does not mean they do not have blood sugar problems. I am not diabetic but am extremely prone to hypoglycemic attacks and because I am not actually diabetic I do not have tests I can do regularly to help prevent myself from having an attack. I try to carry glucose tablets on me at all times, and snacks, candy, or a drink whenever possible because it is so hard to predict sometimes.

 

Tracy is correct that overall most people will defend themselves if they have a medical need, but please be sure not to judge based solely on the person saying they have diabetes. I’ve been told before that it’s “not possible for non-diabetics” to have blood sugar problems and denied ability to bring food or drink somewhere. This is not only offensive to the person in question but extremely risky for the organization legally and for the person medically.

 

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From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Cindi Verser
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From experience with this problem and because I am also an  EMT, I can offer a few thoughts on this matter.

 

All diabetics are different and so are the ways they deal with severe and sudden blood sugar drops.  These lows are very dangerous and need to be treated immediately.    Small amounts of a soft drink, juice or candy can be used to quickly and temporarily solve the problem. 

 

The decision to use this treatment is based on the patient’s experiences and their doctor’s recommendations. 

 

So please don’t assume that the visitor may be lying about their condition or the need for the soda.    If it turns out they are, well, there are just no polite words that will correctly sum up their character.

 

But it is fair to ask for closed containers in museums and to say that your policies don’t allow beverages to be consumed in the galleries.

 

Instead, offer a place where the visitor can do so.  A café area, employee break room or the corner of an office will suffice.  Standard practice is to check blood sugar levels after drinking the soda, so this also offers a good place for the visitor  to lay out their testing supplies.

 

You might want to contact the local branch of the American Diabetes Association.  They can offer suggestions, guidance, and information on ADA rules compliance related to diabetics. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Walton
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 12:09 PM
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My guess would be that people have learned that with ADA rules they can get away with lying about things like help dogs, etc. because businesses are not allowed to ask about health conditions. I think it is fair to require it have a closed top and explain why they need to be extra careful. Maybe since they know they are lying they will feel a shred of guilt. I doubt it, but maybe. 

 

For reference, as far as I have heard, cokes are NOT recommended for diabetes treatment, even if sugar is suddenly low. 

 

 

 

 

On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Via, Marie <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

The number of visitors who insist on taking beverages into the museum for medical reasons seems to have increased a lot lately.  Water (for a pulmonary condition, for example) isn’t so much an issue – we just ask them to be sure the bottle is capped tightly and stowed out of sight when not use.  On the other hand, many people are now saying they must have Coke or some kind of soft drink with them due to diabetes.  This is more problematic.  I’m wondering if others are seeing an uptick along these lines and, if so, how they are handling the balance between protecting collections and offering a good visitor service.  Thanks!

 

Marie Via

Director of Exhibitions

Memorial Art Gallery

500 University Ave.

Rochester, NY  14607

585-276-9003

 

6th Rochester Biennial

July 13–September 21, 2014 in the Grand Gallery

 

New Ghosts for A New Age: Yoshitoshi’s New Forms of 36 Ghosts

Japanese Prints from the Arthur R. Miller Collection

August 29–November 30, 2014 in the Lockhart Gallery

 

 


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