David getting fake service dog vest in Los Angeles is about as easy as
buying dog food.   I know plenty of people with fake vest.
for liquids I would just contact ADA and ask them what you can and can not
ask them to do.   Then you aren't guessing anymore.

Randy S. Little
http://www.rslittle.com/
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2325729/



On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 3:57 PM, topladave . <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> This is all very simple. Anyone with a chronic and potentially life
> threatening medical condition such as Diabetes should be able to carry
> small amounts of medicine or food that can help them, but they should, for
> their own good, have a med-alert bracelet so if they are impaired anyone
> helping them can identify the problem (including EMT's).
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> Larger liquids should not go into the galleries but on request can be kept
> at the front desk or other safe place where they can retrieve it if needed.
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> As far as people "faking" ADA status, sure some of it happens, but it is
> not a huge problem and in the case of service animals they are required to
> wear vests and have certified identification for the animal. So it
> shouldn't be that hard that it is seen as a problem.
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> Cheers!
> Dave
>
> David Harvey
> Senior Conservator & Museum Consultant
> Los Angeles CA  USA
> www.cityofangelsconservation.weebly.com
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> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Sarah Burroughs <
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>>  I also just want to add that simply because a person does not have a
>> blood test kit or specifically say they have diabetes does not mean they do
>> not have blood sugar problems. I am not diabetic but am extremely prone to
>> hypoglycemic attacks and because I am not actually diabetic I do not have
>> tests I can do regularly to help prevent myself from having an attack. I
>> try to carry glucose tablets on me at all times, and snacks, candy, or a
>> drink whenever possible because it is so hard to predict sometimes.
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>> Tracy is correct that overall most people will defend themselves if they
>> have a medical need, but please be sure not to judge based solely on the
>> person saying they have *diabetes*. I’ve been told before that it’s “not
>> possible for non-diabetics” to have blood sugar problems and denied ability
>> to bring food or drink somewhere. This is not only offensive to the person
>> in question but extremely risky for the organization legally and for the
>> person medically.
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>> *Sarah Burroughs *Education and Curatorial Coordinator
>> 9/11 Tribute Center
>> 22 Cortlandt Street, Suite 801
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>> Phone: (212) 422-3520 X 126
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>> *From:* Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On
>> Behalf Of *Cindi Verser
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 12, 2014 1:07 PM
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>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>> *Subject:* Re: [MUSEUM-L] Beverages in galleries for medical purposes
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>> From experience with this problem and because I am also an  EMT, I can
>> offer a few thoughts on this matter.
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>> All diabetics are different and so are the ways they deal with severe and
>> sudden blood sugar drops.  These lows are very dangerous and need to be
>> treated immediately.    Small amounts of a soft drink, juice or candy can
>> be used to quickly and temporarily solve the problem.
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>> The decision to use this treatment is based on the patient’s experiences
>> and their doctor’s recommendations.
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>> So please don’t assume that the visitor may be lying about their
>> condition or the need for the soda.    If it turns out they are, well,
>> there are just no polite words that will correctly sum up their character.
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>> But it is fair to ask for closed containers in museums and to say that
>> your policies don’t allow beverages to be consumed in the galleries.
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>> Instead, offer a place where the visitor can do so.  A café area,
>> employee break room or the corner of an office will suffice.  Standard
>> practice is to check blood sugar levels after drinking the soda, so this
>> also offers a good place for the visitor  to lay out their testing supplies.
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>> You might want to contact the local branch of the American Diabetes
>> Association.  They can offer suggestions, guidance, and information on ADA
>> rules compliance related to diabetics.
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>> *From:* Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On
>> Behalf Of *Elizabeth Walton
>> *Sent:* Friday, September 12, 2014 12:09 PM
>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>> *Subject:* Re: [MUSEUM-L] Beverages in galleries for medical purposes
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>> My guess would be that people have learned that with ADA rules they can
>> get away with lying about things like help dogs, etc. because businesses
>> are not allowed to ask about health conditions. I think it is fair to
>> require it have a closed top and explain why they need to be extra careful.
>> Maybe since they know they are lying they will feel a shred of guilt. I
>> doubt it, but maybe.
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>> For reference, as far as I have heard, cokes are NOT recommended for
>> diabetes treatment, even if sugar is suddenly low.
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>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Via, Marie <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
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>> The number of visitors who insist on taking beverages into the museum for
>> medical reasons seems to have increased a lot lately.  Water (for a
>> pulmonary condition, for example) isn’t so much an issue – we just ask them
>> to be sure the bottle is capped tightly and stowed out of sight when not
>> use.  On the other hand, many people are now saying they must have Coke or
>> some kind of soft drink with them due to diabetes.  This is more
>> problematic.  I’m wondering if others are seeing an uptick along these
>> lines and, if so, how they are handling the balance between protecting
>> collections and offering a good visitor service.  Thanks!
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>> Marie Via
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>> Director of Exhibitions
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>> Memorial Art Gallery
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>> 500 University Ave.
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>> Rochester, NY  14607
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>> 585-276-9003
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>> *6th Rochester Biennial*
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>> *Japanese Prints from the Arthur R. Miller Collection*
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