David getting fake service dog vest in Los Angeles is about as easy as buying dog food. I know plenty of people with fake vest. for liquids I would just contact ADA and ask them what you can and can not ask them to do. Then you aren't guessing anymore. Randy S. Little http://www.rslittle.com/ http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2325729/ On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 3:57 PM, topladave . <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > This is all very simple. Anyone with a chronic and potentially life > threatening medical condition such as Diabetes should be able to carry > small amounts of medicine or food that can help them, but they should, for > their own good, have a med-alert bracelet so if they are impaired anyone > helping them can identify the problem (including EMT's). > > Larger liquids should not go into the galleries but on request can be kept > at the front desk or other safe place where they can retrieve it if needed. > > As far as people "faking" ADA status, sure some of it happens, but it is > not a huge problem and in the case of service animals they are required to > wear vests and have certified identification for the animal. So it > shouldn't be that hard that it is seen as a problem. > > Cheers! > Dave > > David Harvey > Senior Conservator & Museum Consultant > Los Angeles CA USA > www.cityofangelsconservation.weebly.com > > On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Sarah Burroughs < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> I also just want to add that simply because a person does not have a >> blood test kit or specifically say they have diabetes does not mean they do >> not have blood sugar problems. I am not diabetic but am extremely prone to >> hypoglycemic attacks and because I am not actually diabetic I do not have >> tests I can do regularly to help prevent myself from having an attack. I >> try to carry glucose tablets on me at all times, and snacks, candy, or a >> drink whenever possible because it is so hard to predict sometimes. >> >> >> >> Tracy is correct that overall most people will defend themselves if they >> have a medical need, but please be sure not to judge based solely on the >> person saying they have *diabetes*. I’ve been told before that it’s “not >> possible for non-diabetics” to have blood sugar problems and denied ability >> to bring food or drink somewhere. This is not only offensive to the person >> in question but extremely risky for the organization legally and for the >> person medically. >> >> >> >> *--* >> >> >> *Sarah Burroughs *Education and Curatorial Coordinator >> 9/11 Tribute Center >> 22 Cortlandt Street, Suite 801 >> New York, NY 10007 >> Phone: (212) 422-3520 X 126 >> [log in to unmask] >> >> www.911families.org :: www.tributewtc.org >> >> >> >> *From:* Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On >> Behalf Of *Cindi Verser >> *Sent:* Friday, September 12, 2014 1:07 PM >> >> *To:* [log in to unmask] >> *Subject:* Re: [MUSEUM-L] Beverages in galleries for medical purposes >> >> >> >> From experience with this problem and because I am also an EMT, I can >> offer a few thoughts on this matter. >> >> >> >> All diabetics are different and so are the ways they deal with severe and >> sudden blood sugar drops. These lows are very dangerous and need to be >> treated immediately. Small amounts of a soft drink, juice or candy can >> be used to quickly and temporarily solve the problem. >> >> >> >> The decision to use this treatment is based on the patient’s experiences >> and their doctor’s recommendations. >> >> >> >> So please don’t assume that the visitor may be lying about their >> condition or the need for the soda. If it turns out they are, well, >> there are just no polite words that will correctly sum up their character. >> >> >> >> But it is fair to ask for closed containers in museums and to say that >> your policies don’t allow beverages to be consumed in the galleries. >> >> >> >> Instead, offer a place where the visitor can do so. A café area, >> employee break room or the corner of an office will suffice. Standard >> practice is to check blood sugar levels after drinking the soda, so this >> also offers a good place for the visitor to lay out their testing supplies. >> >> >> >> You might want to contact the local branch of the American Diabetes >> Association. They can offer suggestions, guidance, and information on ADA >> rules compliance related to diabetics. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On >> Behalf Of *Elizabeth Walton >> *Sent:* Friday, September 12, 2014 12:09 PM >> *To:* [log in to unmask] >> *Subject:* Re: [MUSEUM-L] Beverages in galleries for medical purposes >> >> >> >> My guess would be that people have learned that with ADA rules they can >> get away with lying about things like help dogs, etc. because businesses >> are not allowed to ask about health conditions. I think it is fair to >> require it have a closed top and explain why they need to be extra careful. >> Maybe since they know they are lying they will feel a shred of guilt. I >> doubt it, but maybe. >> >> >> >> For reference, as far as I have heard, cokes are NOT recommended for >> diabetes treatment, even if sugar is suddenly low. >> >> >> >> http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/patientinstructions/000085.htm >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Via, Marie <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >> The number of visitors who insist on taking beverages into the museum for >> medical reasons seems to have increased a lot lately. Water (for a >> pulmonary condition, for example) isn’t so much an issue – we just ask them >> to be sure the bottle is capped tightly and stowed out of sight when not >> use. On the other hand, many people are now saying they must have Coke or >> some kind of soft drink with them due to diabetes. This is more >> problematic. I’m wondering if others are seeing an uptick along these >> lines and, if so, how they are handling the balance between protecting >> collections and offering a good visitor service. Thanks! >> >> >> >> Marie Via >> >> Director of Exhibitions >> >> Memorial Art Gallery >> >> 500 University Ave. >> >> Rochester, NY 14607 >> >> 585-276-9003 >> >> >> >> *6th Rochester Biennial* >> >> *July 13–September 21, 2014 in the Grand Gallery* >> >> >> >> *New Ghosts for A New Age: Yoshitoshi’s New Forms of 36 Ghosts* >> >> *Japanese Prints from the Arthur R. 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