This discussion has become oddly political when the simple answer is: Do what the law requires you to do.  If you need clarification about the law, contact a lawyer.  A consultation with a lawyer is cheaper than a lawsuit.

-RW

On Sep 14, 2014, at 4:56 PM, topladave . <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> There's no need to see this get into US verses German. Different countries and different laws, that is all.
> 
> Cheers!
> Dave
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> David Harvey
> Senior Conservator and Museum Consultant
> Los Angeles CA. USA
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> On Sep 14, 2014 1:00 PM, "Therese Quinn" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Well, it might be closer to the truth to say that the US treats people "as equals" to the extent that we can get the best care we can afford. As one measure of the way this plays out, we US folks have a shorter life expectancy than Germans (and many other nations): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
> 
> Therese
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> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Randy Little <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Yes because we treat people as equals to the extent its better to allow mis conduct vs make people need a card. How very german to make people need a card and id themselves.
> 
> On Sep 14, 2014 2:14 PM, "adelheid straten" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Halleluja... Unbelievable. America, you are better off?
> 
> Am 14.09.2014 19:48, schrieb Randy Little:
>> The laws are specifically writen against having to prove you have a disability.  It is in fact illegal to even ask.  I mostly agree with why.
>> 
>> On Sep 14, 2014 12:22 PM, "adelheid straten" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>> Am 14.09.2014 15:54, schrieb Elizabeth Walton:
>>> We do not have anything like an ID card in the US for disabilities. People do not have to prove they are disabled. 
>> Hi, Elisabeth,
>> 
>> Hm. That's the point. 
>> This can be the reason for many problems in public life. IC cards would make life much easier for both parties. Here in Germany they come from health insurances (!), but I could imagine that fiscal authorities or hospitals could issue such official cards. With picture and valid only for a limited period. It's much easier to check an ID card than mere statements. 
>>> 
>>> We also cannot judge dogs by breed since there are many uses for dogs, including small ones that are carried. Dogs are often used for PTSD or anxiety disorders. Small dogs can also be trained to smell for changes in glucose levels for diabetics. 
>> Well, as there are museums that cause anxiety disorders, :-) ... To my knowledge, patients with anxiety disorders get, from time to time, a treatment with well trained  puppies. But a puppy is no substitute for medicamentation. But as they all have to be medically treated, there is no need to bring these puppies into a museum. 
>> 
>> With concern to glucose sniffling dogs (you are right, I recently saw such a dog in a TV program) : They are trained to push a certain button in the household in case of emergency. 
>> What are they supposed to do in such a case of emergency in a museum?
>> The best proposal was that the security personnel has small rations of medical "sweets" at hand for such situations. 
>> 
>> Generally, it might be a good idea to put a sentence into the visitors' regulations that anyone on prescribed medical drugs is obliged to be on standard level when visiting the museum.
>> 
>> Best
>> 
>> 
>> Christian
>> 
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