Kathleen, A bit more specific information would help with providing suggestions/answers. First and foremost, is the linoleum rug and artifact needing to be preserved in this move or are you expecting some potential damage and just want to minimize it. How long will the rug need to be out of the room and where will it be stored? What is the nature of the space outside the room once the rug has passed through the door? If the answer to the first question is, there can be no damage, I suggest that you consider raising it up, overhead, keeping it as flat as possible. Not as nutty as it sounds. You can get canvas 10' wide and this could be slid under the rug. The ends and sides are then be wrapped over a wood frame much like the back of a painters canvas. Additional wood or metal angle would need to be added to reduce flex and you would need to develop legs to suspend it. There will be a convex bow to this so if you wanted to only have a simple bow staple the canvas on only two edges. Note, the weight of this rug is going to be around 100 lbs. If you can accept some potential damage then using a cylinder as suggested by Ralph makes sense. Sonotube as suggested is the only reasonable approach since other large round tubes such as corrugated drain culverts are both heavier and more expensive. I question the wisdom of actually rolling it completely up as this will put tension on the whole face. I also suggest that the "role" be rug face in, slightly compressing the face finish rather that expanding it and cracking it. I suggest that you consider "draping" the rug over the tube by passing a 6 mil plastic sheet beneath the rug and floor, center the tube on the rug and bringing the rug over the top using the plastic sheet. I suggest plastic sheeting because of its low cost. The tube should be padded to ease any points of pressure and abrasion. The tube is then lifted and carried out with the rug sides hanging down. You will need some form of support such as tall sawhorses to keep the draped rug off the ground. Note the sonotube will weigh about 120 lbs and with the rug a total of around 220 to 250 lbs. If you do want to try rolling the rug completely around the cylinder you will still need to pad it and you should have a carrier such as the canvas or plastic sheet to keep as even a pressure on it as possible. But before you start any rolling you may want to consider testing to see if heating the rug from the back with a heat gun will make it more pliable and not damage the face or prevent the rug from laying flat again. This of coarse goes the the question of the rugs artifact value. Raising it to the ceiling doesn't sound so bad... Regards, Paul Stromdahl On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Ralph Rhodes <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > Kathleen, > > Large diameter cardboard tubes can be found at building supply companies > that cater to the concrete construction industry. There are several > companies that manufacture such tubes, but the largest and best known one > is > Sonoco who makes what are called Sonotubes which are made as concrete forms > for pouring round concrete columns. You can find information about them at > http://www.sonotube.com/products/sonotubeconcreteforms.aspx, > or at Customer Service: 888-766-8823. > > I would imagine that a 24" or 26" dia. would work best for your situation. > The tubes may be a little pricey for a one time simple use like you have. > But since you're a non-profit educational institution, if you talk nicely > to > the supplier or a local concrete/masonry contractor, you might be able to > convince them to let you borrow a tube for a day or two in order to get the > linoleum rug out of the space it's in and to the place you want to take it. > Once you've finished, simply return the tube in like-new condition to the > folks you borrowed it from. You might also ask if they would be willing to > deliver it to you and and pick it up since they have the trucks and the > people to do such things. Thet might be willing to donate that as well, but > if they are willing to loan you the tube, it would be best to at least > offer > to pay them for their time and expenses for the delivery and pick-up. > > Good luck, > Ralph > > > On 5/13/13 8:07 PM, "Anne Lane" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > Would it be possible to adhere a temporary lining to the top surface to > > strengthen it for handling? That's obviously a conservator's call, but I > know > > such things are done. > > Anne > > ANNE T LANE > > Curatorial Specialist > > FINE ART MUSEUM > > WESTERN CAROLINA UNIVERSITY > > 199 Centennial Drive > > Cullowhee NC 28723 > > > > 828-227-2550 > > > > From: Kathleen O'Hara <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > > Reply-To: Museum discussion list > > <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > > Date: Monday, May 13, 2013 3:56 PM > > To: "[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>" > > <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > > Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Historic Linoleum - Moving and storage > > > > We have a historic linoleum rug that needs to be removed so that > conservation > > work can occur on the floor underneath it. It measures approximately > 9¹x12¹, > > and needs to be moved through a doorway that measures 29² wide and about > 8¹ > > high. We¹ve thought about trying to find a large diameter cardboard tube > to > > roll it around, but haven¹t had any luck in looking for one. The > linoleum is > > brittle and may not survive rolling well at all, but it seems to be our > only > > choice at the moment. Has anyone done this before? 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