I wonder what the owner / collector of the dirt would think about it being exhibited as an example of "Illegal" collecting?

Cheers!
Dave

David Harvey
Senior Conservator and Museum Consultant

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Nina Simon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Perhaps we will print out and post the email thread for visitors to the museum to read!

Seriously, this has been a really interesting discussion. I'll update you all in August when the show opens with what we did... or you can come to Santa Cruz and see for yourself.

Be well,
Nina




On Jun 1, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Jennifer Snyder wrote:

> I can't believe y'all managed to fill my inbox with a discussion on
> collecting dirt.
>
> On 6/1/2012 12:48 PM, Randy Little wrote:
>> Why would Photo's of illegal object be any different then having the
>> illegal objects?  The curators know's its Illegal and I am thinking
>> already in jeopardy of misprision.  As is everyone on this list now
>> that we know she knows about this very illegal activity.  Being asked
>> how to avoid prosecution of the law can very easily make everyone here
>> in violation of misprision at the federal level.   A FELONY ON US as
>> well as Nina (in the US of course)
>>
>> Randy S. Little
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Jacob Hildebrandt<[log in to unmask]>  wrote:
>>> As someone who was starting on an art project that involved international
>>> dirt samples, I would like to thank everyone here for the advice.  I guess I
>>> will have to go a different route...
>>>
>>> As to the actual issue at hand, as a viewer I would say photographs of the
>>> collection would be the next best thing to actually having the objects.  I
>>> usually prefer reproductions, but in this case I think something would
>>> definitely be lost.
>>>
>>> --Jake Hildebrandt
>>> www.jakehildebrandt.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:03 PM, lucysperlin<[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Many years ago my former museum mounted an exhibit on the same topic…why
>>>> people collect. It included children’s collecting, collecting for monetary
>>>> increase, collecting for sentiment, collecting for perceived beauty, and a
>>>> bunch of other aspects of collecting.  One section (pertinent here) was
>>>> titled  “Illegal Collecting”…..it pointed out what it is illegal to collect
>>>> and offered alternatives such as photographing said items.  I wonder if you
>>>> could show part of her collection (the part that was legally collected).  It
>>>> certainly would be interesting to most people to think of soil as something
>>>> illegal to collect.  In fact, I think that it is fairly important to address
>>>> illegal collecting in such an exhibit…..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lucy Sperlin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundaryô6d044468db2bb05004c16ceac0 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --f46d044468db2bb05004c16ceac0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Randy: Photos of illegal acts or items are not, in fact, illegal. Just as participating in a discussion on whether it is ethical to show an illegally obtained object in a museum is not illegal. That's true under even the strictest interpretations of the First Amendment. No one here has offered advice on avoiding prosecution. Also: *"The mere failure to report a felony is not sufficient to constitute a violation of 18 U.S.C.A. § 4 (Misprision of felony)."* Conclusion: I think we're fine. Nick. On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Nina Simon <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Perhaps we will print out and post the email thread for visitors to the > museum to read! > > Seriously, this has been a really interesting discussion. I'll update you > all in August when the show opens with what we did... or you can come to > Santa Cruz and see for yourself. > > Be well, > Nina > > > > > On Jun 1, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Jennifer Snyder wrote: > > > I can't believe y'all managed to fill my inbox with a discussion on > > collecting dirt. > > > > On 6/1/2012 12:48 PM, Randy Little wrote: > >> Why would Photo's of illegal object be any different then having the > >> illegal objects? The curators know's its Illegal and I am thinking > >> already in jeopardy of misprision. As is everyone on this list now > >> that we know she knows about this very illegal activity. Being asked > >> how to avoid prosecution of the law can very easily make everyone here > >> in violation of misprision at the federal level. A FELONY ON US as > >> well as Nina (in the US of course) > >> > >> Randy S. Little > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Jacob Hildebrandt<[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >>> As someone who was starting on an art project that involved > international > >>> dirt samples, I would like to thank everyone here for the advice. I > guess I > >>> will have to go a different route... > >>> > >>> As to the actual issue at hand, as a viewer I would say photographs of > the > >>> collection would be the next best thing to actually having the > objects. I > >>> usually prefer reproductions, but in this case I think something would > >>> definitely be lost. > >>> > >>> --Jake Hildebrandt > >>> www.jakehildebrandt.com > >>> > >>> > >>> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:03 PM, lucysperlin<[log in to unmask] > > > >>> wrote: > >>>> Many years ago my former museum mounted an exhibit on the same > topic…why > >>>> people collect. It included children’s collecting, collecting for > monetary > >>>> increase, collecting for sentiment, collecting for perceived beauty, > and a > >>>> bunch of other aspects of collecting. One section (pertinent here) > was > >>>> titled “Illegal Collecting”…..it pointed out what it is illegal to > collect > >>>> and offered alternatives such as photographing said items. I wonder > if you > >>>> could show part of her collection (the part that was legally > collected). It > >>>> certainly would be interesting to most people to think of soil as > something > >>>> illegal to collect. In fact, I think that it is fairly important to > address > >>>> illegal collecting in such an exhibit….. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Lucy Sperlin > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > >>>> Behalf Of Nina Simon > >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:23 PM > >>>> To: [log in to unmask] > >>>> Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] exhibiting illegally-obtained dirt? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Thank you to everyone for the thoughtful comments on this. It's clear > that > >>>> there are several issues to consider and I really appreciate those > who have > >>>> pointed us in some clear directions on this. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> With regard to the questions about the goal of the exhibition and why > we'd > >>>> want to show the dirt, here's the story: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Santa Cruz Collects is an exhibition that explores the following big > idea: > >>>> the things we collect say a lot about who we are as individuals and > as a > >>>> community. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> We're including collectors of all kinds - one of the top collectors of > >>>> American flags, a university special collection, a woman who collects > dryer > >>>> lint, a man whose entire collection was burned, etc. The story is > really > >>>> focused on the WHY of collecting as well as the unique ways that > people and > >>>> institutions acquire, manage, display, and dispose of their > collections. > >>>> We're linking this both to pop culture (hoarding) and to the basic > question > >>>> of why and how museums do the work they do. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> In this context, the dirt collection is fascinating. The collector > has a > >>>> great story about why she feels compelled to collect this dirt as > mementos > >>>> of her work around the world, and of course, the legal issue is part > of what > >>>> makes it interesting. To many visitors, the idea that dirt could be > illegal > >>>> is bizarre--but allows them to grapple with deeper questions about why > >>>> certain collections should or should not be acquired or displayed. The > >>>> questions that David and others have brought up are exactly the kinds > of > >>>> questions we would want to explore with visitors. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> We may not show it--frankly, your responses are pushing us towards not > >>>> doing so. But I do think it tells an interesting and useful story in > the > >>>> context of what we are trying to do. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Thank you for your feedback, > >>>> > >>>> Nina > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On May 31, 2012, at 11:45 AM, BECKER, DAVID wrote: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> What is the goal of the exhibit? If the goal is to show differences in > >>>> dirt from around the world, then dirt can be obtained through legal > and > >>>> ethical means. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> If the exhibit is about collection and the collecting process, what > is the > >>>> message that the museum wants to send about the collection process > and how > >>>> does this particular collection fit in? It could be the basis for an > >>>> interesting discussion about the ethics of collection. Those > questions could > >>>> be raised through other representations of the collection or through > other > >>>> collections? Does the full collection need to be physically present > in the > >>>> museum? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I personally don’t agree with calling it art as that was not the > intent of > >>>> the collection or the collector, i.e. it was not done by an artist > with an > >>>> intent to make art for a stated artistic purpose or message. To call > it art > >>>> for convenience sake is not in keeping with the artistic discipline > that > >>>> calling it art would represent. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> I guess I see it as a bigger issue than has been presented in the > initial > >>>> e-mail. If this naturalist had illegally transported a cultural > artifact > >>>> without permission would that be o.k. to display? If this naturalist > had > >>>> transported the hide or fur of an animal that had been killed > illegally, > >>>> would that be ok to display? When I go to a nature center, there are > signs > >>>> that tell me to take only pictures, and not take anything else with > me: Is > >>>> it ok for me to ignore those signs for the sake of my personal > collection? > >>>> Would this same naturalist condone this same behavior if was going to > be > >>>> conducted on a larger scale by 100 people, or by 1000 people, or by > >>>> everyone? I think there are issues and considerations here that go > beyond > >>>> the issue of whether it is legal or not. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Dave > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Dave Becker > >>>> > >>>> Senior Manager of Learning Experiences > >>>> > >>>> Chicago Zoological Society > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > >>>> Behalf Of Pickering, Bob > >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:51 PM > >>>> To: [log in to unmask] > >>>> Subject: Re: exhibiting illegally-obtained dirt? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Whether the dirt is dangerous or not, isn’t there an issue of > displaying > >>>> material that is known to be illegal? Does calling it “art” absolve > the > >>>> museum of responsibility? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Bob > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Robert B. Pickering, PhD > >>>> > >>>> Director of Curatorial Affairs& Public Programs, Gilcrease Museum; > >>>> > >>>> Director, Museum Science and Management, University of Tulsa > >>>> > >>>> 1400 N. Gilcrease Museum Rd > >>>> > >>>> Tulsa, OK 74127 > >>>> > >>>> (918) 596-2706 Office > >>>> > >>>> (918) 596-2770 Fax > >>>> > >>>> (918) 805-4780 Cell > >>>> > >>>> [log in to unmask] > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > >>>> Behalf Of Nina Simon > >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:07 AM > >>>> To: [log in to unmask] > >>>> Subject: [MUSEUM-L] exhibiting illegally-obtained dirt? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> This one is for the museum lawyers and collection management gurus out > >>>> there. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> For an upcoming temporary exhibition on collections, we would like to > show > >>>> a collection of vials of dirt that a local naturalist collected on her > >>>> travels around the world. The challenge is that much of this dirt was > >>>> transferred into the US illegally (i.e. from countries where they are > strict > >>>> about making sure that organic material doesn't enter or leave the > country) > >>>> or was obtained with some trespassing (i.e. from celebrities' yards). > She is > >>>> nervous about exhibiting the dirt in public for this reason. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> My sense is that if we can call this art, it might not be a problem. > >>>> Frankly, I don't think it's a big problem period - there's no real > risk or > >>>> danger to the dirt - but I want to learn more about how to address > this > >>>> issue. Do you know anyone who might have some expertise to bear in > this > >>>> arena? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Thank you, > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Nina > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Nina Simon > >>>> > >>>> Executive Director > >>>> > >>>> Santa Cruz Museum of Art& History > >>>> > >>>> 831.429.1964 x7018 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Come visit us at 705 Front Street in Santa Cruz > >>>> > >>>> Get involved at www.santacruzmah.org or on Facebook > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > >>>> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > >>>> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > >>>> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> No virus found in this message. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >>>> Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2425/5036 - Release Date: > 05/31/12 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > >>>> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> ________________________________ > >>>> > >>>> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > >>>> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > >>> > >>> > >>> ________________________________ > >>> > >>> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > >>> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > >> ========================================================= > >> Important Subscriber Information: > >> > >> The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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Photos of illegal acts or items are not, in fact, illegal. Just as participating in a discussion on whether it is ethical to show an illegally obtained object in a museum is not illegal. That's true under even the strictest interpretations of the First Amendment. No one here has offered advice on avoiding prosecution. Also:  "The mere failure to report a felony is not sufficient to constitute a violation of 18 U.S.C.A. § 4 (Misprision of felony)."  Conclusion: I think we're fine.
Nick.

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Nina Simon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Perhaps we will print out and post the email thread for visitors to the museum to read!

Seriously, this has been a really interesting discussion. I'll update you all in August when the show opens with what we did... or you can come to Santa Cruz and see for yourself.

Be well,
Nina




On Jun 1, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Jennifer Snyder wrote:

> I can't believe y'all managed to fill my inbox with a discussion on
> collecting dirt.
>
> On 6/1/2012 12:48 PM, Randy Little wrote:
>> Why would Photo's of illegal object be any different then having the
>> illegal objects?  The curators know's its Illegal and I am thinking
>> already in jeopardy of misprision.  As is everyone on this list now
>> that we know she knows about this very illegal activity.  Being asked
>> how to avoid prosecution of the law can very easily make everyone here
>> in violation of misprision at the federal level.   A FELONY ON US as
>> well as Nina (in the US of course)
>>
>> Randy S. Little
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Jacob Hildebrandt<[log in to unmask]>  wrote:
>>> As someone who was starting on an art project that involved international
>>> dirt samples, I would like to thank everyone here for the advice.  I guess I
>>> will have to go a different route...
>>>
>>> As to the actual issue at hand, as a viewer I would say photographs of the
>>> collection would be the next best thing to actually having the objects.  I
>>> usually prefer reproductions, but in this case I think something would
>>> definitely be lost.
>>>
>>> --Jake Hildebrandt
>>> www.jakehildebrandt.com
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:03 PM, lucysperlin<[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Many years ago my former museum mounted an exhibit on the same topic…why
>>>> people collect. It included children’s collecting, collecting for monetary
>>>> increase, collecting for sentiment, collecting for perceived beauty, and a
>>>> bunch of other aspects of collecting.  One section (pertinent here) was
>>>> titled  “Illegal Collecting”…..it pointed out what it is illegal to collect
>>>> and offered alternatives such as photographing said items.  I wonder if you
>>>> could show part of her collection (the part that was legally collected).  It
>>>> certainly would be interesting to most people to think of soil as something
>>>> illegal to collect.  In fact, I think that it is fairly important to address
>>>> illegal collecting in such an exhibit…..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Lucy Sperlin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>>
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========================================================================Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 13:48:33 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ramona Renfroe <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Museum of Ashe County History, Inc. Subject: Accession Policy question regarding gifts to loans MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0076_01CD3FFD.3C395B00" Message-ID: <8C74F4BBD0BF4916BE1CF5D4E6CEFD77@owner69c1ea373> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01CD3FFD.3C395B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We are in the process of reviewing our Collections Policy and have encountered a situation that could pose a difficult precedent. Six years ago a donor gave the museum three pieces of 19th century furniture that have become a major portion of one of our exhibits. The closure of a regional museum and the disbursement of their collection have concerned this lady for the stability of local museums in general. The situation is further complicated by her relationship to certain Board members which has elevated it beyond the wording of the Deed of Gift to an emotional discussion. She wishes to change these items from "gift" status to "loan" status "just in case" the same fate were to befall our museum. She does not want the pieces back nor does she think that her heirs will want the pieces in the future. Board members' reactions have been varied and have placed our Collections Committee on alert to the sensitivity of this particular incident. Have any of the List members encountered a similar situation or do you have policies in place that address such circumstances? Thanks, Ramona Ramona A. Renfroe Director Museum of Ashe County History 301 E. Main St. / PO Box 1404 Jefferson, NC 28640 Phone: 336.846.1904 / fax: 336.846.1932 [log in to unmask] ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01CD3FFD.3C395B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

We are in the process of reviewing our Collections Policy and have encountered a situation that could pose a difficult precedent.

 

Six years ago a donor gave the museum three pieces of 19th century furniture that have become a major portion of one of our exhibits. The closure of a regional museum and the disbursement of their collection have concerned this lady for the stability of local museums in general. The situation is further complicated by her relationship to certain Board members which has elevated it beyond the wording of the Deed of Gift to an emotional discussion. She wishes to change these items from “gift” status to “loan” status “just in case” the same fate were to befall our museum. She does not want the pieces back nor does she think that her heirs will want the pieces in the future. Board members’ reactions have been varied and have placed our Collections Committee on alert to the sensitivity of this particular incident.  

 

Have any of the List members encountered a similar situation or do you have policies in place that address such circumstances?

 

Thanks,

Ramona

 

 

Ramona A. Renfroe

Director

Museum of Ashe County History

301 E. Main St. / PO Box 1404

Jefferson, NC  28640

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------=_NextPart_000_0076_01CD3FFD.3C395B00-- ========================================================================Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 13:33:11 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Pickering, Bob" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: exhibiting illegally-obtained dirt? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> I was thinking about using this string in my museum mgmt. & administration class in the Fall. If you compile all of the comments, I'd be happy to continue the discussion in the classroom. Bob Robert B. Pickering, PhD Director of Curatorial Affairs & Public Programs, Gilcrease Museum; Director, Museum Science and Management, University of Tulsa 1400 N. Gilcrease Museum Rd Tulsa, OK 74127 (918) 596-2706 Office (918) 596-2770 Fax (918) 805-4780 Cell [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nina Simon Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 12:40 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] exhibiting illegally-obtained dirt? Perhaps we will print out and post the email thread for visitors to the museum to read! Seriously, this has been a really interesting discussion. I'll update you all in August when the show opens with what we did... or you can come to Santa Cruz and see for yourself. Be well, Nina On Jun 1, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Jennifer Snyder wrote: > I can't believe y'all managed to fill my inbox with a discussion on > collecting dirt. > > On 6/1/2012 12:48 PM, Randy Little wrote: >> Why would Photo's of illegal object be any different then having the >> illegal objects? The curators know's its Illegal and I am thinking >> already in jeopardy of misprision. As is everyone on this list now >> that we know she knows about this very illegal activity. Being asked >> how to avoid prosecution of the law can very easily make everyone here >> in violation of misprision at the federal level. A FELONY ON US as >> well as Nina (in the US of course) >> >> Randy S. Little >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Jacob Hildebrandt<[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> As someone who was starting on an art project that involved >>> international dirt samples, I would like to thank everyone here for >>> the advice. I guess I will have to go a different route... >>> >>> As to the actual issue at hand, as a viewer I would say photographs >>> of the collection would be the next best thing to actually having >>> the objects. I usually prefer reproductions, but in this case I >>> think something would definitely be lost. >>> >>> --Jake Hildebrandt >>> www.jakehildebrandt.com >>> >>> >>> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:03 PM, >>> lucysperlin<[log in to unmask]> >>> wrote: >>>> Many years ago my former museum mounted an exhibit on the same >>>> topic...why people collect. It included children's collecting, >>>> collecting for monetary increase, collecting for sentiment, >>>> collecting for perceived beauty, and a bunch of other aspects of >>>> collecting. One section (pertinent here) was titled "Illegal >>>> Collecting".....it pointed out what it is illegal to collect and >>>> offered alternatives such as photographing said items. I wonder if >>>> you could show part of her collection (the part that was legally >>>> collected). It certainly would be interesting to most people to >>>> think of soil as something illegal to collect. In fact, I think that it is fairly important to address illegal collecting in such an exhibit..... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Lucy Sperlin >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >>>> On Behalf Of Nina Simon >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:23 PM >>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>> Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] exhibiting illegally-obtained dirt? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you to everyone for the thoughtful comments on this. It's >>>> clear that there are several issues to consider and I really >>>> appreciate those who have pointed us in some clear directions on this. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> With regard to the questions about the goal of the exhibition and >>>> why we'd want to show the dirt, here's the story: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Santa Cruz Collects is an exhibition that explores the following big idea: >>>> the things we collect say a lot about who we are as individuals and >>>> as a community. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We're including collectors of all kinds - one of the top collectors >>>> of American flags, a university special collection, a woman who >>>> collects dryer lint, a man whose entire collection was burned, etc. >>>> The story is really focused on the WHY of collecting as well as the >>>> unique ways that people and institutions acquire, manage, display, and dispose of their collections. >>>> We're linking this both to pop culture (hoarding) and to the basic >>>> question of why and how museums do the work they do. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In this context, the dirt collection is fascinating. The collector >>>> has a great story about why she feels compelled to collect this >>>> dirt as mementos of her work around the world, and of course, the >>>> legal issue is part of what makes it interesting. To many visitors, >>>> the idea that dirt could be illegal is bizarre--but allows them to >>>> grapple with deeper questions about why certain collections should >>>> or should not be acquired or displayed. The questions that David >>>> and others have brought up are exactly the kinds of questions we would want to explore with visitors. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> We may not show it--frankly, your responses are pushing us towards >>>> not doing so. But I do think it tells an interesting and useful >>>> story in the context of what we are trying to do. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you for your feedback, >>>> >>>> Nina >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 31, 2012, at 11:45 AM, BECKER, DAVID wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> What is the goal of the exhibit? If the goal is to show differences >>>> in dirt from around the world, then dirt can be obtained through >>>> legal and ethical means. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> If the exhibit is about collection and the collecting process, what >>>> is the message that the museum wants to send about the collection >>>> process and how does this particular collection fit in? It could be >>>> the basis for an interesting discussion about the ethics of >>>> collection. Those questions could be raised through other >>>> representations of the collection or through other collections? >>>> Does the full collection need to be physically present in the museum? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I personally don't agree with calling it art as that was not the >>>> intent of the collection or the collector, i.e. it was not done by >>>> an artist with an intent to make art for a stated artistic purpose >>>> or message. To call it art for convenience sake is not in keeping >>>> with the artistic discipline that calling it art would represent. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I guess I see it as a bigger issue than has been presented in the >>>> initial e-mail. If this naturalist had illegally transported a >>>> cultural artifact without permission would that be o.k. to display? >>>> If this naturalist had transported the hide or fur of an animal >>>> that had been killed illegally, would that be ok to display? When >>>> I go to a nature center, there are signs that tell me to take only >>>> pictures, and not take anything else with me: Is it ok for me to ignore those signs for the sake of my personal collection? >>>> Would this same naturalist condone this same behavior if was going >>>> to be conducted on a larger scale by 100 people, or by 1000 people, >>>> or by everyone? I think there are issues and considerations here >>>> that go beyond the issue of whether it is legal or not. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dave Becker >>>> >>>> Senior Manager of Learning Experiences >>>> >>>> Chicago Zoological Society >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >>>> On Behalf Of Pickering, Bob >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:51 PM >>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>> Subject: Re: exhibiting illegally-obtained dirt? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Whether the dirt is dangerous or not, isn't there an issue of >>>> displaying material that is known to be illegal? Does calling it >>>> "art" absolve the museum of responsibility? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Robert B. Pickering, PhD >>>> >>>> Director of Curatorial Affairs& Public Programs, Gilcrease Museum; >>>> >>>> Director, Museum Science and Management, University of Tulsa >>>> >>>> 1400 N. Gilcrease Museum Rd >>>> >>>> Tulsa, OK 74127 >>>> >>>> (918) 596-2706 Office >>>> >>>> (918) 596-2770 Fax >>>> >>>> (918) 805-4780 Cell >>>> >>>> [log in to unmask] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >>>> On Behalf Of Nina Simon >>>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:07 AM >>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>> Subject: [MUSEUM-L] exhibiting illegally-obtained dirt? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This one is for the museum lawyers and collection management gurus >>>> out there. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> For an upcoming temporary exhibition on collections, we would like >>>> to show a collection of vials of dirt that a local naturalist >>>> collected on her travels around the world. The challenge is that >>>> much of this dirt was transferred into the US illegally (i.e. from >>>> countries where they are strict about making sure that organic >>>> material doesn't enter or leave the country) or was obtained with >>>> some trespassing (i.e. from celebrities' yards). She is nervous about exhibiting the dirt in public for this reason. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> My sense is that if we can call this art, it might not be a problem. >>>> Frankly, I don't think it's a big problem period - there's no real >>>> risk or danger to the dirt - but I want to learn more about how to >>>> address this issue. Do you know anyone who might have some >>>> expertise to bear in this arena? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Nina >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Nina Simon >>>> >>>> Executive Director >>>> >>>> Santa Cruz Museum of Art& History >>>> >>>> 831.429.1964 x7018 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Come visit us at 705 Front Street in Santa Cruz >>>> >>>> Get involved at www.santacruzmah.org or on Facebook >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >>>> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >>>> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >>>> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> No virus found in this message. >>>> >>>> >>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>> Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2425/5036 - Release Date: >>>> 05/31/12 >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >>>> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >>>> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >>> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >> ========================================================= >> Important Subscriber Information: >> >> The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:31:17 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sarah LeCount <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Accession Policy question regarding gifts to loans Comments: cc: Ramona Renfroe <[log in to unmask]> In-Reply-To: <8C74F4BBD0BF4916BE1CF5D4E6CEFD77@owner69c1ea373> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20120601183117.DNQVW.76082.root@hrndva-web25-z02> Hi Ramona! Wow, that's a new twist! I wonder why she is requesting the change, even though she does not want the pieces back and she believes her heirs will not want them. The basic issue is, as I see it, that if you were to make the gift into a loan, you would have to deaccession it first. Generally, deaccessioning policies state that the objects should not go back to the donor, but should be placed in another museum or sold through public auction. Additionally, if she were allowed to change the gift into a loan, what would happen upon her eventual demise? I hope she will listen to reason - keep us posted on what happens! Sarah Collections Coordinator, Rochester Museum & Science Center ---- Ramona Renfroe <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > We are in the process of reviewing our Collections Policy and have > encountered a situation that could pose a difficult precedent. > > > > Six years ago a donor gave the museum three pieces of 19th century furniture > that have become a major portion of one of our exhibits. The closure of a > regional museum and the disbursement of their collection have concerned this > lady for the stability of local museums in general. The situation is further > complicated by her relationship to certain Board members which has elevated > it beyond the wording of the Deed of Gift to an emotional discussion. She > wishes to change these items from "gift" status to "loan" status "just in > case" the same fate were to befall our museum. She does not want the pieces > back nor does she think that her heirs will want the pieces in the future. > Board members' reactions have been varied and have placed our Collections > Committee on alert to the sensitivity of this particular incident. > > > > Have any of the List members encountered a similar situation or do you have > policies in place that address such circumstances? > > > > Thanks, > > Ramona > > > > > > Ramona A. Renfroe > > Director > > Museum of Ashe County History > > 301 E. Main St. / PO Box 1404 > > Jefferson, NC 28640 > > Phone: 336.846.1904 / fax: 336.846.1932 > > [log in to unmask] > > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:35:04 -0700 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: David Harvey <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Accession Policy question regarding gifts to loans In-Reply-To: <8C74F4BBD0BF4916BE1CF5D4E6CEFD77@owner69c1ea373> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary cf302efd5e99635204c16d7284 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --20cf302efd5e99635204c16d7284 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There are all kinds of issues in this - not the least of all being that a legal donation and transfer of property "Gift" was done and reversing that may have both legal and ethical ramifications. And after six years now the donor wants to reverse the decision? That, in my opinion, is opening a Pandora's Box of issues. The first thing that comes to mind is whether that donor declared the gift for tax purposes with the IRS - because how can your museum now be an instrument, with pressure from the donor, to reverse that? There are legal reasons why museums cannot assign value for "Gifts" and I am sure that there well may be liability via the IRS for reversing a "Gift" that someone has gotten tax deductions for. The second thing is to change the legal status of the "Gift" back to the donor will involve lawyers as well as having ethical ramifications with your collections management policy. Then there is the issue of board members intervening in a professional collections management issue. You have to live by your current policy and not allow "special cases" from board politics to circumvent that - especially if you are accredited by the AAM or aspire to be. Cheers, Dave David Harvey Senior Conservator and Museum Consultant On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Ramona Renfroe < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** > > We are in the process of reviewing our Collections Policy and have > encountered a situation that could pose a difficult precedent. **** > > ** ** > > Six years ago a donor gave the museum three pieces of 19th century > furniture that have become a major portion of one of our exhibits. The > closure of a regional museum and the disbursement of their collection have > concerned this lady for the stability of local museums in general. The > situation is further complicated by her relationship to certain Board > members which has elevated it beyond the wording of the Deed of Gift to an > emotional discussion. She wishes to change these items from “gift” status > to “loan” status “just in case” the same fate were to befall our museum. > She does not want the pieces back nor does she think that her heirs will > want the pieces in the future. Board members’ reactions have been varied > and have placed our Collections Committee on alert to the sensitivity of > this particular incident. **** > > ** ** > > Have any of the List members encountered a similar situation or do you > have policies in place that address such circumstances? **** > > ** ** > > Thanks,**** > > Ramona**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Ramona A. Renfroe**** > > Director**** > > **Museum** of **Ashe** ****County** **History******** > > ****301 E. Main St.**** / ****PO Box** 1404****** > > ****Jefferson**, **NC** **28640******** > > Phone: 336.846.1904 / fax: 336.846.1932**** > > [log in to unmask] **** > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --20cf302efd5e99635204c16d7284 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There are all kinds of issues in this - not the least of all being that a legal donation and transfer of property "Gift" was done and reversing that may have both legal and ethical ramifications. And after six years now the donor wants to reverse the decision? That, in my opinion, is opening a Pandora's Box of issues.

The first thing that comes to mind is whether that donor declared the gift for tax purposes with the IRS - because how can your museum now be an instrument, with pressure from the donor, to reverse that? There are legal reasons why museums cannot assign value for "Gifts" and I am sure that there well may be liability via the IRS for reversing a "Gift" that someone has gotten tax deductions for. The second thing is to change the legal status of the "Gift" back to the donor will involve lawyers as well as having ethical ramifications with your collections management policy. Then there is the issue of board members intervening in a professional collections management issue. You have to live by your current policy and not allow "special cases" from board politics to circumvent that - especially if you are accredited by the AAM or aspire to be.

Cheers,
Dave

David Harvey
Senior Conservator and Museum Consultant

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Ramona Renfroe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

We are in the process of reviewing our Collections Policy and have encountered a situation that could pose a difficult precedent.

 

Six years ago a donor gave the museum three pieces of 19th century furniture that have become a major portion of one of our exhibits. The closure of a regional museum and the disbursement of their collection have concerned this lady for the stability of local museums in general. The situation is further complicated by her relationship to certain Board members which has elevated it beyond the wording of the Deed of Gift to an emotional discussion. She wishes to change these items from “gift” status to “loan” status “just in case” the same fate were to befall our museum. She does not want the pieces back nor does she think that her heirs will want the pieces in the future. Board members’ reactions have been varied and have placed our Collections Committee on alert to the sensitivity of this particular incident.  

 

Have any of the List members encountered a similar situation or do you have policies in place that address such circumstances?

 

Thanks,

Ramona

 

 

Ramona A. Renfroe

Director

Museum of Ashe County History

301 E. Main St. / PO Box 1404

Jefferson, NC  28640

Phone: 336.846.1904 / fax: 336.846.1932

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--20cf302efd5e99635204c16d7284-- ========================================================================Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 13:48:55 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Jenna Toppert <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Accession Policy question regarding gifts to loans In-Reply-To: <8C74F4BBD0BF4916BE1CF5D4E6CEFD77@owner69c1ea373> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundaryMessage-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --001636d34bf4ea4a1204c16da23b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ramona, Since we are not privy to the policies you already have in place for your establishment, I would suggest adding a clause in your policy and on Deed of Gift paperwork stating that once you have gifted an item to the establishment with the full intent of having the museum financially care for the objects in question, that the "gifter" no longer has any right of possession over said objects. By opening the door to a donor and letting them question whether it was a good idea to gift or loan in the first place is something that should have been considered before gifting or loaning an object. If you let one donor switch the status of an object from gift to loan, then other donors may think they can do this as well. Not only does that open up your collection practices to heated debates among colleagues and donors, it also gives donors the impression that they can "gift" an object to the museum, let you financially care for it, conserve it, preserve it, and even improve the condition of it and then turn around and switch the object to loan so they can potentially retrieve it at any time they want. This is obviously an issue that needs to be carefully examined and hopefully your donor will understand that once a museum takes on the great responsibility of caring for such amazing objects, that they are truly responsible for the object and that donors need not worry about things they have turned over to an incredibly responsible institution and staff. On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Ramona Renfroe < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** > > We are in the process of reviewing our Collections Policy and have > encountered a situation that could pose a difficult precedent. **** > > ** ** > > Six years ago a donor gave the museum three pieces of 19th century > furniture that have become a major portion of one of our exhibits. The > closure of a regional museum and the disbursement of their collection have > concerned this lady for the stability of local museums in general. The > situation is further complicated by her relationship to certain Board > members which has elevated it beyond the wording of the Deed of Gift to an > emotional discussion. She wishes to change these items from “gift” status > to “loan” status “just in case” the same fate were to befall our museum. > She does not want the pieces back nor does she think that her heirs will > want the pieces in the future. Board members’ reactions have been varied > and have placed our Collections Committee on alert to the sensitivity of > this particular incident. **** > > ** ** > > Have any of the List members encountered a similar situation or do you > have policies in place that address such circumstances? **** > > ** ** > > Thanks,**** > > Ramona**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Ramona A. Renfroe**** > > Director**** > > **Museum** of **Ashe** ****County** **History******** > > ****301 E. Main St.**** / ****PO Box** 1404****** > > ****Jefferson**, **NC** **28640******** > > Phone: 336.846.1904 / fax: 336.846.1932**** > > [log in to unmask] **** > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --001636d34bf4ea4a1204c16da23b Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Ramona,
Since we are not privy to the policies you already have in place for your establishment, I would suggest adding a clause in your policy and on Deed of Gift paperwork stating that once you have gifted an item to the establishment with the full intent of having the museum financially care for the objects in question, that the "gifter" no longer has any right of possession over said objects. By opening the door to a donor and letting them question whether it was a good idea to gift or loan in the first place is something that should have been considered before gifting or loaning an object. If you let one donor switch the status of an object from gift to loan, then other donors may think they can do this as well. Not only does that open up your collection practices to heated debates among colleagues and donors, it also gives donors the impression that they can "gift" an object to the museum, let you financially care for it, conserve it, preserve it, and even improve the condition of it and then turn around and switch the object to loan so they can potentially retrieve it at any time they want. This is obviously an issue that needs to be carefully examined and hopefully your donor will understand that once a museum takes on the great responsibility of caring for such amazing objects, that they are truly responsible for the object and that donors need not worry about things they have turned over to an incredibly responsible institution and staff.

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Ramona Renfroe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

We are in the process of reviewing our Collections Policy and have encountered a situation that could pose a difficult precedent.

 

Six years ago a donor gave the museum three pieces of 19th century furniture that have become a major portion of one of our exhibits. The closure of a regional museum and the disbursement of their collection have concerned this lady for the stability of local museums in general. The situation is further complicated by her relationship to certain Board members which has elevated it beyond the wording of the Deed of Gift to an emotional discussion. She wishes to change these items from “gift” status to “loan” status “just in case” the same fate were to befall our museum. She does not want the pieces back nor does she think that her heirs will want the pieces in the future. Board members’ reactions have been varied and have placed our Collections Committee on alert to the sensitivity of this particular incident.  

 

Have any of the List members encountered a similar situation or do you have policies in place that address such circumstances?

 

Thanks,

Ramona

 

 

Ramona A. Renfroe

Director

Museum of Ashe County History

301 E. Main St. / PO Box 1404

Jefferson, NC  28640

Phone: 336.846.1904 / fax: 336.846.1932

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--001636d34bf4ea4a1204c16da23b-- ========================================================================Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:40:26 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Tanya Lane <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Museum Studies question In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundarye6ba21214397f16f04c16d8492 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --90e6ba21214397f16f04c16d8492 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, I would agree with Candace that internships and experience are very important. I am a History and English student at UConn and have been fortunate enough to work in the Archives and Special Collections for two years. I got the job based on my previous experience accessioning and organizing collections in a museum on campus.I have learned so much just by talking with the professionals in our university library. All of the archivists here have a MLS (many of whom earned theirs at Simmons in Boston). However, university librarians in Special Collections perform lots of other tasks that DO NOT include paper conservation. The librarians in charge of the collections at our main academic library do. As of now, I plan on going for the Museum Studies degree and not the MLS. Hope this helps!! Tanya On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Lissa Kramer <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > There are also a number of workshops and summer courses specifically in > paper conservation methods. It might be a good way to get your feet wet > prior to investing in something more long term. It may also help you pick > a program. > > Lissa Kramer > Masters Candidate > Museology Graduate Program > University of Washington > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Rachel Biars <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Dear Katherine, >> >> I'm going to follow suit here and suggest that you find a university that >> offers a Special Collections degree (you'd be looking at library science >> programs) and, perhaps, a dual degree in something like Anthropology, >> Folklore or Art History (depending on the subject matter of the particular >> collections you're looking to work with). As far as where you could go, I >> would highly recommend Indiana University. They offer a number of dual >> Masters and Master of Library Science programs and, with the MLS, you could >> easily pick up their specialization in Special Collections and Manuscripts; >> not to mention that you'd have access to the amazing Lilly Library. If >> you'd like to know more about dual degrees or the Indiana program, feel >> free to shoot me an email. Best of luck! >> >> Rachel Biars >> M.A. Folklore & Library Science >> [log in to unmask] >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Brian Rayca <[log in to unmask]>wrote: >> >>> Katherine, >>> >>> It sounds to me like you want a more specific conservation degree rather >>> than a Museum Studies degree. I just graduated from the Johns Hopkins >>> program in Museum Studies, between my experience in the program and the >>> research I did before going in, Museums studies does not give you the >>> specific specialization you seem to be looking for. >>> >>> Hope this helps >>> >>> Brian >>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Katherine Janson < >>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello All! >>>> >>>> I am looking into earning my MA in Museum Studies. I especially want >>>> to work with manuscripts, books, and paper; interpreting, preserving, and >>>> archiving them. Will a general Museum Studies program be enough, or should >>>> I get a more focused degree? I already have a double BA in Medieval >>>> Studies and History. >>>> Any advice would be greatly appreciated. >>>> >>>> Thank you! >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >>>> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >>>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >>> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> M.A. Folklore & Library Science >> 2573 Brunswick Ln. >> Hudson, OH 44236 >> (c) 216.469.9797 >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >> > > > > -- > > -L. > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --90e6ba21214397f16f04c16d8492 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,
I would agree with Candace that internships and experience are very important. I am a History and English student at UConn and have been fortunate enough to work in the Archives and Special Collections for two years. I got the job based on my previous experience accessioning and organizing collections in a museum on campus.I have learned so much just by talking with the professionals in our university library. All of the archivists here have a MLS (many of whom earned theirs at Simmons in Boston). However, university librarians in Special Collections perform lots of other tasks that DO NOT include paper conservation. The librarians in charge of the collections at our main academic library do. As of now, I plan on going for the Museum Studies degree and not the MLS. Hope this helps!!

Tanya

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Lissa Kramer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
There are also a number of workshops and summer courses specifically in paper conservation methods.  It might be a good way to get your feet wet prior to investing in something more long term.  It may also help you pick a program.
 
Lissa Kramer
Masters Candidate
Museology Graduate Program
University of Washington

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Rachel Biars <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Dear Katherine,

I'm going to follow suit here and suggest that you find a university that offers a Special Collections degree (you'd be looking at library science programs) and, perhaps, a dual degree in something like Anthropology, Folklore or Art History (depending on the subject matter of the particular collections you're looking to work with). As far as where you could go, I would highly recommend Indiana University. They offer a number of dual Masters and Master of Library Science programs and, with the MLS, you could easily pick up their specialization in Special Collections and Manuscripts; not to mention that you'd have access to the amazing Lilly Library. If you'd like to know more about dual degrees or the Indiana program, feel free to shoot me an email. Best of luck!

Rachel Biars
M.A. Folklore & Library Science
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On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Brian Rayca <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Katherine,
 
It sounds to me like you want a more specific conservation degree rather than a Museum Studies degree.  I just graduated from the Johns Hopkins program in Museum Studies, between my experience in the program and the research I did before going in, Museums studies does not give you the specific specialization you seem to be looking for.
 
Hope this helps
 
Brian
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Katherine Janson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hello All!

I am looking into earning my MA in Museum Studies.  I especially want to work with manuscripts, books, and paper; interpreting, preserving, and archiving them.  Will a general Museum Studies program be enough, or should I get a more focused degree?  I already have a double BA in Medieval Studies and History.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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--90e6ba21214397f16f04c16d8492-- ========================================================================Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 15:32:44 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Jaime Fogel <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Accession Policy question regarding gifts to loans In-Reply-To: A<[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CD402D.52283E4C" Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD402D.52283E4C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Instead of changing the status of the item (from gift to loan), could you make a separate agreement that if for some reason the museum closes you will give her an opportunity to purchase the items back before they would go to auction (or whatever the course of action would be)? It seems like she just wants them to be protected in the unlikely case that the museum closes and not that she doesn't want you to have them. -Jaime Jaime L. Fogel, MLS Librarian Holocaust Documentation & Education Center P: 954-929-5690 F: 954-929-5635 [log in to unmask] [log in to unmask] www.hdec.org From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jenna Toppert Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 2:49 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Accession Policy question regarding gifts to loans Hi Ramona, Since we are not privy to the policies you already have in place for your establishment, I would suggest adding a clause in your policy and on Deed of Gift paperwork stating that once you have gifted an item to the establishment with the full intent of having the museum financially care for the objects in question, that the "gifter" no longer has any right of possession over said objects. By opening the door to a donor and letting them question whether it was a good idea to gift or loan in the first place is something that should have been considered before gifting or loaning an object. If you let one donor switch the status of an object from gift to loan, then other donors may think they can do this as well. Not only does that open up your collection practices to heated debates among colleagues and donors, it also gives donors the impression that they can "gift" an object to the museum, let you financially care for it, conserve it, preserve it, and even improve the condition of it and then turn around and switch the object to loan so they can potentially retrieve it at any time they want. This is obviously an issue that needs to be carefully examined and hopefully your donor will understand that once a museum takes on the great responsibility of caring for such amazing objects, that they are truly responsible for the object and that donors need not worry about things they have turned over to an incredibly responsible institution and staff. On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Ramona Renfroe <[log in to unmask]> wrote: We are in the process of reviewing our Collections Policy and have encountered a situation that could pose a difficult precedent. Six years ago a donor gave the museum three pieces of 19th century furniture that have become a major portion of one of our exhibits. The closure of a regional museum and the disbursement of their collection have concerned this lady for the stability of local museums in general. The situation is further complicated by her relationship to certain Board members which has elevated it beyond the wording of the Deed of Gift to an emotional discussion. She wishes to change these items from "gift" status to "loan" status "just in case" the same fate were to befall our museum. She does not want the pieces back nor does she think that her heirs will want the pieces in the future. Board members' reactions have been varied and have placed our Collections Committee on alert to the sensitivity of this particular incident. Have any of the List members encountered a similar situation or do you have policies in place that address such circumstances? Thanks, Ramona Ramona A. Renfroe Director Museum of Ashe County History 301 E. 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Instead of changing the status of the item (from gift to loan),  could you make a separate agreement that if for some reason the museum closes you will give her an opportunity to purchase the items back before they would go to auction (or whatever the course of action would be)?   It seems like she just wants them to be protected in the unlikely case that the museum closes and not that she doesn’t want you to have them.

 

-Jaime

 

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F: 954-929-5635
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From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jenna Toppert
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 2:49 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Accession Policy question regarding gifts to loans

 

Hi Ramona,

Since we are not privy to the policies you already have in place for your establishment, I would suggest adding a clause in your policy and on Deed of Gift paperwork stating that once you have gifted an item to the establishment with the full intent of having the museum financially care for the objects in question, that the "gifter" no longer has any right of possession over said objects. By opening the door to a donor and letting them question whether it was a good idea to gift or loan in the first place is something that should have been considered before gifting or loaning an object. If you let one donor switch the status of an object from gift to loan, then other donors may think they can do this as well. Not only does that open up your collection practices to heated debates among colleagues and donors, it also gives donors the impression that they can "gift" an object to the museum, let you financially care for it, conserve it, preserve it, and even improve the condition of it and then turn around and switch the object to loan so they can potentially retrieve it at any time they want. This is obviously an issue that needs to be carefully examined and hopefully your donor will understand that once a museum takes on the great responsibility of caring for such amazing objects, that they are truly responsible for the object and that donors need not worry about things they have turned over to an incredibly responsible institution and staff.

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:48 PM, Ramona Renfroe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

We are in the process of reviewing our Collections Policy and have encountered a situation that could pose a difficult precedent.

 

Six years ago a donor gave the museum three pieces of 19th century furniture that have become a major portion of one of our exhibits. The closure of a regional museum and the disbursement of their collection have concerned this lady for the stability of local museums in general. The situation is further complicated by her relationship to certain Board members which has elevated it beyond the wording of the Deed of Gift to an emotional discussion. She wishes to change these items from “gift” status to “loan” status “just in case” the same fate were to befall our museum. She does not want the pieces back nor does she think that her heirs will want the pieces in the future. Board members’ reactions have been varied and have placed our Collections Committee on alert to the sensitivity of this particular incident.  

 

Have any of the List members encountered a similar situation or do you have policies in place that address such circumstances?

 

Thanks,

Ramona

 

 

Ramona A. Renfroe

Director

Museum of Ashe County History

301 E. Main St. / PO Box 1404

Jefferson, NC  28640

Phone: 336.846.1904 / fax: 336.846.1932

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------_=_NextPart_001_01CD402D.52283E4C-- ========================================================================Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:59:13 -0700 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Paul Koenig <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: exhibiting illegally-obtained dirt? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> And so begins the copyright discussion... On Jun 1, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Nina Simon wrote: > Perhaps we will print out and post the email thread for visitors to the museum to read! > > Seriously, this has been a really interesting discussion. I'll update you all in August when the show opens with what we did... or you can come to Santa Cruz and see for yourself. > > Be well, > Nina > > > > > On Jun 1, 2012, at 10:06 AM, Jennifer Snyder wrote: > >> I can't believe y'all managed to fill my inbox with a discussion on >> collecting dirt. >> >> On 6/1/2012 12:48 PM, Randy Little wrote: >>> Why would Photo's of illegal object be any different then having the >>> illegal objects? The curators know's its Illegal and I am thinking >>> already in jeopardy of misprision. As is everyone on this list now >>> that we know she knows about this very illegal activity. Being asked >>> how to avoid prosecution of the law can very easily make everyone here >>> in violation of misprision at the federal level. A FELONY ON US as >>> well as Nina (in the US of course) >>> >>> Randy S. Little >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Jacob Hildebrandt<[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>> As someone who was starting on an art project that involved international >>>> dirt samples, I would like to thank everyone here for the advice. I guess I >>>> will have to go a different route... >>>> >>>> As to the actual issue at hand, as a viewer I would say photographs of the >>>> collection would be the next best thing to actually having the objects. I >>>> usually prefer reproductions, but in this case I think something would >>>> definitely be lost. >>>> >>>> --Jake Hildebrandt >>>> www.jakehildebrandt.com >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:03 PM, lucysperlin<[log in to unmask]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Many years ago my former museum mounted an exhibit on the same topic…why >>>>> people collect. It included children’s collecting, collecting for monetary >>>>> increase, collecting for sentiment, collecting for perceived beauty, and a >>>>> bunch of other aspects of collecting. One section (pertinent here) was >>>>> titled “Illegal Collecting”…..it pointed out what it is illegal to collect >>>>> and offered alternatives such as photographing said items. I wonder if you >>>>> could show part of her collection (the part that was legally collected). It >>>>> certainly would be interesting to most people to think of soil as something >>>>> illegal to collect. In fact, I think that it is fairly important to address >>>>> illegal collecting in such an exhibit….. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Lucy Sperlin >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On >>>>> Behalf Of Nina Simon >>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:23 PM >>>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>>> Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] exhibiting illegally-obtained dirt? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thank you to everyone for the thoughtful comments on this. It's clear that >>>>> there are several issues to consider and I really appreciate those who have >>>>> pointed us in some clear directions on this. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> With regard to the questions about the goal of the exhibition and why we'd >>>>> want to show the dirt, here's the story: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Santa Cruz Collects is an exhibition that explores the following big idea: >>>>> the things we collect say a lot about who we are as individuals and as a >>>>> community. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We're including collectors of all kinds - one of the top collectors of >>>>> American flags, a university special collection, a woman who collects dryer >>>>> lint, a man whose entire collection was burned, etc. The story is really >>>>> focused on the WHY of collecting as well as the unique ways that people and >>>>> institutions acquire, manage, display, and dispose of their collections. >>>>> We're linking this both to pop culture (hoarding) and to the basic question >>>>> of why and how museums do the work they do. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In this context, the dirt collection is fascinating. The collector has a >>>>> great story about why she feels compelled to collect this dirt as mementos >>>>> of her work around the world, and of course, the legal issue is part of what >>>>> makes it interesting. To many visitors, the idea that dirt could be illegal >>>>> is bizarre--but allows them to grapple with deeper questions about why >>>>> certain collections should or should not be acquired or displayed. The >>>>> questions that David and others have brought up are exactly the kinds of >>>>> questions we would want to explore with visitors. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We may not show it--frankly, your responses are pushing us towards not >>>>> doing so. But I do think it tells an interesting and useful story in the >>>>> context of what we are trying to do. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for your feedback, >>>>> >>>>> Nina >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 31, 2012, at 11:45 AM, BECKER, DAVID wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What is the goal of the exhibit? If the goal is to show differences in >>>>> dirt from around the world, then dirt can be obtained through legal and >>>>> ethical means. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If the exhibit is about collection and the collecting process, what is the >>>>> message that the museum wants to send about the collection process and how >>>>> does this particular collection fit in? It could be the basis for an >>>>> interesting discussion about the ethics of collection. Those questions could >>>>> be raised through other representations of the collection or through other >>>>> collections? Does the full collection need to be physically present in the >>>>> museum? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I personally don’t agree with calling it art as that was not the intent of >>>>> the collection or the collector, i.e. it was not done by an artist with an >>>>> intent to make art for a stated artistic purpose or message. To call it art >>>>> for convenience sake is not in keeping with the artistic discipline that >>>>> calling it art would represent. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I guess I see it as a bigger issue than has been presented in the initial >>>>> e-mail. If this naturalist had illegally transported a cultural artifact >>>>> without permission would that be o.k. to display? If this naturalist had >>>>> transported the hide or fur of an animal that had been killed illegally, >>>>> would that be ok to display? When I go to a nature center, there are signs >>>>> that tell me to take only pictures, and not take anything else with me: Is >>>>> it ok for me to ignore those signs for the sake of my personal collection? >>>>> Would this same naturalist condone this same behavior if was going to be >>>>> conducted on a larger scale by 100 people, or by 1000 people, or by >>>>> everyone? I think there are issues and considerations here that go beyond >>>>> the issue of whether it is legal or not. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dave Becker >>>>> >>>>> Senior Manager of Learning Experiences >>>>> >>>>> Chicago Zoological Society >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On >>>>> Behalf Of Pickering, Bob >>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:51 PM >>>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>>> Subject: Re: exhibiting illegally-obtained dirt? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Whether the dirt is dangerous or not, isn’t there an issue of displaying >>>>> material that is known to be illegal? Does calling it “art” absolve the >>>>> museum of responsibility? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bob >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Robert B. Pickering, PhD >>>>> >>>>> Director of Curatorial Affairs& Public Programs, Gilcrease Museum; >>>>> >>>>> Director, Museum Science and Management, University of Tulsa >>>>> >>>>> 1400 N. Gilcrease Museum Rd >>>>> >>>>> Tulsa, OK 74127 >>>>> >>>>> (918) 596-2706 Office >>>>> >>>>> (918) 596-2770 Fax >>>>> >>>>> (918) 805-4780 Cell >>>>> >>>>> [log in to unmask] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On >>>>> Behalf Of Nina Simon >>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:07 AM >>>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>>> Subject: [MUSEUM-L] exhibiting illegally-obtained dirt? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> This one is for the museum lawyers and collection management gurus out >>>>> there. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For an upcoming temporary exhibition on collections, we would like to show >>>>> a collection of vials of dirt that a local naturalist collected on her >>>>> travels around the world. The challenge is that much of this dirt was >>>>> transferred into the US illegally (i.e. from countries where they are strict >>>>> about making sure that organic material doesn't enter or leave the country) >>>>> or was obtained with some trespassing (i.e. from celebrities' yards). She is >>>>> nervous about exhibiting the dirt in public for this reason. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> My sense is that if we can call this art, it might not be a problem. >>>>> Frankly, I don't think it's a big problem period - there's no real risk or >>>>> danger to the dirt - but I want to learn more about how to address this >>>>> issue. Do you know anyone who might have some expertise to bear in this >>>>> arena? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Nina >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Nina Simon >>>>> >>>>> Executive Director >>>>> >>>>> Santa Cruz Museum of Art& History >>>>> >>>>> 831.429.1964 x7018 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Come visit us at 705 Front Street in Santa Cruz >>>>> >>>>> Get involved at www.santacruzmah.org or on Facebook >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >>>>> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >>>>> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >>>>> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> No virus found in this message. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>> Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2425/5036 - Release Date: 05/31/12 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >>>>> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >>>>> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >>>> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >>> ========================================================= >>> Important Subscriber Information: >>> >>> The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 16:08:37 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "O'malley, Erin" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Museum Studies question In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_2EA599FC682D6F4684DC0DF501E209E793594A35BBMAVMAIL2utaed_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --_000_2EA599FC682D6F4684DC0DF501E209E793594A35BBMAVMAIL2utaed_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I currently work in a special collections on a university campus. We have several archivists in the department and all but 1 have an MLS. We also have a couple who are certified archivists. Our 1 lone non MLS archivist is sort of the exception because the collections he deals with are maps, and he's an expert in that area. I myself have a masters in History with a concentration in Museum studies, but I do all the exhibits (I am the exhibit department :)) So I'm a bit of the odd woman out in my department. If you want to go into any sort of archival work real world experience and an MLS I think are the standard. Most archivists I've meet have some training in basic paper conservation (repairing tears, rehousing material, humidifying paper, etc) but for more advanced things that's usually handled by a trained conservator. Erin O'Malley Exhibit designer From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tanya Lane Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 1:40 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Museum Studies question Hi, I would agree with Candace that internships and experience are very important. I am a History and English student at UConn and have been fortunate enough to work in the Archives and Special Collections for two years. I got the job based on my previous experience accessioning and organizing collections in a museum on campus.I have learned so much just by talking with the professionals in our university library. All of the archivists here have a MLS (many of whom earned theirs at Simmons in Boston). However, university librarians in Special Collections perform lots of other tasks that DO NOT include paper conservation. The librarians in charge of the collections at our main academic library do. As of now, I plan on going for the Museum Studies degree and not the MLS. Hope this helps!! Tanya On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Lissa Kramer <[log in to unmask]> wrote: There are also a number of workshops and summer courses specifically in paper conservation methods. It might be a good way to get your feet wet prior to investing in something more long term. It may also help you pick a program. Lissa Kramer Masters Candidate Museology Graduate Program University of Washington On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Rachel Biars <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Dear Katherine, I'm going to follow suit here and suggest that you find a university that offers a Special Collections degree (you'd be looking at library science programs) and, perhaps, a dual degree in something like Anthropology, Folklore or Art History (depending on the subject matter of the particular collections you're looking to work with). As far as where you could go, I would highly recommend Indiana University. They offer a number of dual Masters and Master of Library Science programs and, with the MLS, you could easily pick up their specialization in Special Collections and Manuscripts; not to mention that you'd have access to the amazing Lilly Library. If you'd like to know more about dual degrees or the Indiana program, feel free to shoot me an email. Best of luck! Rachel Biars M.A. Folklore & Library Science [log in to unmask] On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Brian Rayca <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Katherine, It sounds to me like you want a more specific conservation degree rather than a Museum Studies degree. I just graduated from the Johns Hopkins program in Museum Studies, between my experience in the program and the research I did before going in, Museums studies does not give you the specific specialization you seem to be looking for. Hope this helps Brian On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Katherine Janson <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Hello All! I am looking into earning my MA in Museum Studies. I especially want to work with manuscripts, books, and paper; interpreting, preserving, and archiving them. Will a general Museum Studies program be enough, or should I get a more focused degree? I already have a double BA in Medieval Studies and History. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. 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I currently work in a special collections on a university campus. We have several archivists in the department and all but 1 have an MLS. We also have a couple who are certified archivists. Our 1 lone non MLS archivist is sort of the exception because the collections he deals with are maps, and he’s an expert in that area. I myself have a masters in History with a concentration in Museum studies, but I do all the exhibits (I am the exhibit department J) So I’m a bit of the odd woman out in my department. If you want to go into any sort of archival work real world experience and an MLS I think are the standard. Most archivists I’ve meet have some training in basic paper conservation (repairing tears, rehousing material, humidifying paper, etc) but for more advanced things that’s usually handled by a trained conservator.

 

Erin O’Malley

Exhibit designer

 

 

From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tanya Lane
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 1:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Museum Studies question

 

Hi,
I would agree with Candace that internships and experience are very important. I am a History and English student at UConn and have been fortunate enough to work in the Archives and Special Collections for two years. I got the job based on my previous experience accessioning and organizing collections in a museum on campus.I have learned so much just by talking with the professionals in our university library. All of the archivists here have a MLS (many of whom earned theirs at Simmons in Boston). However, university librarians in Special Collections perform lots of other tasks that DO NOT include paper conservation. The librarians in charge of the collections at our main academic library do. As of now, I plan on going for the Museum Studies degree and not the MLS. Hope this helps!!

Tanya

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Lissa Kramer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

There are also a number of workshops and summer courses specifically in paper conservation methods.  It might be a good way to get your feet wet prior to investing in something more long term.  It may also help you pick a program.

 

Lissa Kramer

Masters Candidate

Museology Graduate Program

University of Washington

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Rachel Biars <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Dear Katherine,

I'm going to follow suit here and suggest that you find a university that offers a Special Collections degree (you'd be looking at library science programs) and, perhaps, a dual degree in something like Anthropology, Folklore or Art History (depending on the subject matter of the particular collections you're looking to work with). As far as where you could go, I would highly recommend Indiana University. They offer a number of dual Masters and Master of Library Science programs and, with the MLS, you could easily pick up their specialization in Special Collections and Manuscripts; not to mention that you'd have access to the amazing Lilly Library. If you'd like to know more about dual degrees or the Indiana program, feel free to shoot me an email. Best of luck!

Rachel Biars
M.A. Folklore & Library Science
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On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Brian Rayca <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Katherine,

 

It sounds to me like you want a more specific conservation degree rather than a Museum Studies degree.  I just graduated from the Johns Hopkins program in Museum Studies, between my experience in the program and the research I did before going in, Museums studies does not give you the specific specialization you seem to be looking for.

 

Hope this helps

 

Brian

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Katherine Janson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hello All!

I am looking into earning my MA in Museum Studies.  I especially want to work with manuscripts, books, and paper; interpreting, preserving, and archiving them.  Will a general Museum Studies program be enough, or should I get a more focused degree?  I already have a double BA in Medieval Studies and History.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

 


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Three students will be selected to present papers. They will each receive a student scholarship that includes full conference registration and $400 to be applied to the cost of travel and accommodation. IMPORTANT: Potential presenters must have completed the student scholarship application in order to receive or be eligible for a scholarship. More information, submission procedures, and scholarship criteria are available on MPMA's website: www.mpma.net. Or contact Nicky Ladkin ([log in to unmask]) or Hyojung Cho ([log in to unmask]).


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--part1_1ee0.6722ac2d.3cfa890d_boundary-- ========================================================================Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:35:05 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Helen Alten <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Collections Management: Cataloging Your Collection online course starts July 2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> MS207: Collections Management: Cataloging Your Collection (Only offered once in 2012) Instructor: Peggy Schaller Price: $475 Dates: July 2 to July 27, 2012 Location: online at www.museumclasses.org Description: Cataloging may not be the most exciting museum task, but it is among the most important. Without a clear knowledge of your holdings, you can't protect, care for, research or exhibit them. Without knowledge of an item's history, you can't properly appreciate its value to your museum. Cataloging Your Collection covers all details needed to catalog a collection. Procedures for handling, measuring and describing all types of objects and materials are discussed in detail. Participants receive sample forms and learn the best practices for numbering artifacts, performing inventory and assessing the condition of objects. Participants practice describing everyday objects and cataloging items from their own collections or households. Each participant will write a mission statement, as well as collection and acquisition policies for a "new" museum. The curriculum also requires written commentary on museum missions, an accessioning exercise and drafting a sample registration manual. Logistics: Participants in Cataloging Your Collection set their own pace while working through 10 sections. Instructor Peggy Schaller will be available at scheduled times for email support. Participants interact through forums and scheduled online chats. Materials include online readings and lecture notes, as well as handouts, slide lectures, projects and links to relevant web sites. The course is limited to 20 participants. Cataloging Your Collection runs four weeks. To reserve a spot in the course, please pay at http://www.collectioncare.org/tas/tas.html If you have trouble please contact Helen Alten at [log in to unmask] The Instructor: Peggy Schaller, founded Collections Research for Museums in 1991 to provide cataloging, collection-management training and services. She has worked with a large variety of museums and collections for more than 18 years. Peggy, who lives in Denver, Colorado, has a bachelor's degree in anthropology with minors in art history and geology from the University of Arizona in Tucson. She has a master's degree in anthropology with a minor in museum studies from the University of Colorado in Boulder and is a Certified Institutional Protection Manager II. She provides workshops and project services to museums and historical societies all across the country. The mission of Collections Research for Museums is to inspire museums to improve their professional standards, collections stewardship and service to their constituency through training in, and assistance with, documenting, preserving, protecting and managing their collections. For more information visit her web site Collections Research for Museums -- Brad Bredehoft for Helen Alten Northern States Conservation Center www.collectioncare.org www.museumclasses.org ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 18:40:57 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Jamillah R. Gabriel" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Museum Studies question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_eedda.1b08a307.3cfa9ef9_boundary" Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --part1_eedda.1b08a307.3cfa9ef9_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en Hi Katherine, I'm a recent MLIS grad and currently working on a master's in Museum Studies, so I've done on a lot of exploration of various careers in libraries, archives, and museums. I would agree that getting an MLIS would be your best bet to working with archives and rare books and manuscripts. In fact, a library science program that has specializations in archival studies and/or rare books and manuscripts might be ideal. UCLA and Indiana University are just a couple of schools that have both emphases (see: _http://www.finebooksmagazine.com/press/2012/05/rare-books-specialization-to-be-offered-at-ucla-gr ad-school.phtml_ (http: //www.finebooksmagazine.com/press/2012/05/rare-books-specialization-to-be-offered-at-ucla-grad-school.phtml) or _http://www.slis.indiana.edu/degrees/joint/_ (http://www.slis.indiana.edu/degrees/joint/) ) but there are a few others others. A masters in archival studies/science/management would be an alternative route, but you would probably still want to seek out additional training or coursework in rare books and manuscripts. Here are some resources that you might want to check out to help you decide: Rare Books and Manuscripts Section of the ALA FAQ _http://www.new.rbms.info/?q=node/10_ (http://www.new.rbms.info/?q=node/10) Accredited LIS Programs _http://www.rbms.info/committees/membership_and_professional/educational_opp ortunities/index.shtml_ (http://www.rbms.info/committees/membership_and_professional/educational_opportunities/index.shtml) SAA Directory of Archival Education _http://www2.archivists.org/dae_ (http://www2.archivists.org/dae) Rare Book Schools and Institutes _http://www.rarebookschool.org/related/_ (http://www.rarebookschool.org/related/) Jamillah R. Gabriel [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) In a message dated 6/1/2012 2:10:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes: I currently work in a special collections on a university campus. We have several archivists in the department and all but 1 have an MLS. We also have a couple who are certified archivists. Our 1 lone non MLS archivist is sort of the exception because the collections he deals with are maps, and he’ s an expert in that area. I myself have a masters in History with a concentration in Museum studies, but I do all the exhibits (I am the exhibit department J) So I’m a bit of the odd woman out in my department. If you want to go into any sort of archival work real world experience and an MLS I think are the standard. Most archivists I’ve meet have some training in basic paper conservation (repairing tears, rehousing material, humidifying paper, etc) but for more advanced things that’s usually handled by a trained conservator. Erin O’Malley Exhibit designer From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Tanya Lane Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 1:40 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Museum Studies question Hi, I would agree with Candace that internships and experience are very important. I am a History and English student at UConn and have been fortunate enough to work in the Archives and Special Collections for two years. I got the job based on my previous experience accessioning and organizing collections in a museum on campus.I have learned so much just by talking with the professionals in our university library. All of the archivists here have a MLS (many of whom earned theirs at Simmons in Boston). However, university librarians in Special Collections perform lots of other tasks that DO NOT include paper conservation. The librarians in charge of the collections at our main academic library do. As of now, I plan on going for the Museum Studies degree and not the MLS. Hope this helps!! Tanya On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Lissa Kramer <[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) > wrote: There are also a number of workshops and summer courses specifically in paper conservation methods. It might be a good way to get your feet wet prior to investing in something more long term. It may also help you pick a program. Lissa Kramer Masters Candidate Museology Graduate Program University of Washington On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Rachel Biars <[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) > wrote: Dear Katherine, I'm going to follow suit here and suggest that you find a university that offers a Special Collections degree (you'd be looking at library science programs) and, perhaps, a dual degree in something like Anthropology, Folklore or Art History (depending on the subject matter of the particular collections you're looking to work with). As far as where you could go, I would highly recommend Indiana University. They offer a number of dual Masters and Master of Library Science programs and, with the MLS, you could easily pick up their specialization in Special Collections and Manuscripts; not to mention that you'd have access to the amazing Lilly Library. If you'd like to know more about dual degrees or the Indiana program, feel free to shoot me an email. Best of luck! Rachel Biars M.A. Folklore & Library Science [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Brian Rayca <[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) > wrote: Katherine, It sounds to me like you want a more specific conservation degree rather than a Museum Studies degree. I just graduated from the Johns Hopkins program in Museum Studies, between my experience in the program and the research I did before going in, Museums studies does not give you the specific specialization you seem to be looking for. Hope this helps Brian On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Katherine Janson <[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) > wrote: Hello All! I am looking into earning my MA in Museum Studies. I especially want to work with manuscripts, books, and paper; interpreting, preserving, and archiving them. 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Hi Katherine,
 
I'm a recent MLIS grad and currently working on a master's in Museum Studies, so I've done on a lot of exploration of various careers in libraries, archives, and museums. I would agree that getting an MLIS would be your best bet to working with archives and rare books and manuscripts. In fact, a library science program that has specializations in archival studies and/or rare books and manuscripts might be ideal. UCLA and Indiana University are just a couple of schools that have both emphases (see: http://www.finebooksmagazine.com/press/2012/05/rare-books-specialization-to-be-offered-at-ucla-grad-school.phtml or http://www.slis.indiana.edu/degrees/joint/) but there are a few others others. A masters in archival studies/science/management would be an alternative route, but you would probably still want to seek out additional training or coursework in rare books and manuscripts.
 
Here are some resources that you might want to check out to help you decide:
 
Rare Books and Manuscripts Section of the ALA FAQ
 
Accredited LIS Programs
 
SAA Directory of Archival Education
 
Rare Book Schools and Institutes
 
 
Jamillah R. Gabriel
 
 
 
In a message dated 6/1/2012 2:10:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:

I currently work in a special collections on a university campus. We have several archivists in the department and all but 1 have an MLS. We also have a couple who are certified archivists. Our 1 lone non MLS archivist is sort of the exception because the collections he deals with are maps, and he’s an expert in that area. I myself have a masters in History with a concentration in Museum studies, but I do all the exhibits (I am the exhibit department J) So I’m a bit of the odd woman out in my department. If you want to go into any sort of archival work real world experience and an MLS I think are the standard. Most archivists I’ve meet have some training in basic paper conservation (repairing tears, rehousing material, humidifying paper, etc) but for more advanced things that’s usually handled by a trained conservator.

 

Erin O’Malley

Exhibit designer

 

 

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Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 1:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Museum Studies question

 

Hi,
I would agree with Candace that internships and experience are very important. I am a History and English student at UConn and have been fortunate enough to work in the Archives and Special Collections for two years. I got the job based on my previous experience accessioning and organizing collections in a museum on campus.I have learned so much just by talking with the professionals in our university library. All of the archivists here have a MLS (many of whom earned theirs at Simmons in Boston). However, university librarians in Special Collections perform lots of other tasks that DO NOT include paper conservation. The librarians in charge of the collections at our main academic library do. As of now, I plan on going for the Museum Studies degree and not the MLS. Hope this helps!!

Tanya

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Lissa Kramer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

There are also a number of workshops and summer courses specifically in paper conservation methods.  It might be a good way to get your feet wet prior to investing in something more long term.  It may also help you pick a program.

 

Lissa Kramer

Masters Candidate

Museology Graduate Program

University of Washington

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Rachel Biars <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Dear Katherine,

I'm going to follow suit here and suggest that you find a university that offers a Special Collections degree (you'd be looking at library science programs) and, perhaps, a dual degree in something like Anthropology, Folklore or Art History (depending on the subject matter of the particular collections you're looking to work with). As far as where you could go, I would highly recommend Indiana University. They offer a number of dual Masters and Master of Library Science programs and, with the MLS, you could easily pick up their specialization in Special Collections and Manuscripts; not to mention that you'd have access to the amazing Lilly Library. If you'd like to know more about dual degrees or the Indiana program, feel free to shoot me an email. Best of luck!

Rachel Biars
M.A. Folklore & Library Science
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On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Brian Rayca <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Katherine,

 

It sounds to me like you want a more specific conservation degree rather than a Museum Studies degree.  I just graduated from the Johns Hopkins program in Museum Studies, between my experience in the program and the research I did before going in, Museums studies does not give you the specific specialization you seem to be looking for.

 

Hope this helps

 

Brian

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Katherine Janson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hello All!

I am looking into earning my MA in Museum Studies.  I especially want to work with manuscripts, books, and paper; interpreting, preserving, and archiving them.  Will a general Museum Studies program be enough, or should I get a more focused degree?  I already have a double BA in Medieval Studies and History.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

 


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--part1_eedda.1b08a307.3cfa9ef9_boundary-- ========================================================================Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 18:58:55 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Jenifer Anderson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Suggestions for tracking programs which can be displayed visually through website In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundaryMessage-ID: [log in to unmask]> --0023544717b800112304c17121ff Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Patrick, The Fusion Tables look like a good possibility. Thank you for the suggestion. Jenifer On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Patrick Reynolds <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > Hi Jennifer, > > You may want to take a look at Google Fusion tables, they are very > powerful you can link tables of data to maps of your event. > > It can do graphs, pie charts, and all kinds of fun stuff. Results are > embedable into your web site. > > link to examples: > https://sites.google.com/site/fusiontablestalks/stories > > best, > > Patrick > >> >> > > -- > -Patrick > > O > /ll\ > / l > > O > /ll\ > l \ > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --0023544717b800112304c17121ff Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Patrick,
The Fusion Tables look like a good possibility. Thank you for the suggestion.
                                                                                                             Jenifer 

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Patrick Reynolds <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi Jennifer,

You may want to take a look at Google Fusion tables, they are very powerful you can link tables of data to maps of your event.

It can do graphs, pie charts, and all kinds of fun stuff.  Results are embedable into your web site.

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--0023544717b800112304c17121ff-- ========================================================================Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:05:38 -0700 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: lucysperlin <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: exhibiting illegally-obtained dirt? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <18D13BC6043E4230AEC7D541AA2C6A49@owner5f90b97c7> When I made reference to using photos of things that are illegal to collect --that is intended to show people there is an alternative to collecting the item -be it bird, archeological material, sea creatures, etc. Lucy Sperlin -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Randy Little Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 9:48 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] exhibiting illegally-obtained dirt? Why would Photo's of illegal object be any different then having the illegal objects? The curators know's its Illegal and I am thinking already in jeopardy of misprision. As is everyone on this list now that we know she knows about this very illegal activity. Being asked how to avoid prosecution of the law can very easily make everyone here in violation of misprision at the federal level. A FELONY ON US as well as Nina (in the US of course) Randy S. Little On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Jacob Hildebrandt <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > As someone who was starting on an art project that involved international > dirt samples, I would like to thank everyone here for the advice.  I guess I > will have to go a different route... > > As to the actual issue at hand, as a viewer I would say photographs of the > collection would be the next best thing to actually having the objects.  I > usually prefer reproductions, but in this case I think something would > definitely be lost. > > --Jake Hildebrandt > www.jakehildebrandt.com > > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 8:03 PM, lucysperlin <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: >> >> Many years ago my former museum mounted an exhibit on the same topic…why >> people collect. It included children’s collecting, collecting for monetary >> increase, collecting for sentiment, collecting for perceived beauty, and a >> bunch of other aspects of collecting.  One section (pertinent here) was >> titled  “Illegal Collecting”…..it pointed out what it is illegal to collect >> and offered alternatives such as photographing said items.  I wonder if you >> could show part of her collection (the part that was legally collected).  It >> certainly would be interesting to most people to think of soil as something >> illegal to collect.  In fact, I think that it is fairly important to address >> illegal collecting in such an exhibit….. >> >> >> >> Lucy Sperlin >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On >> Behalf Of Nina Simon >> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 1:23 PM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] exhibiting illegally-obtained dirt? >> >> >> >> Thank you to everyone for the thoughtful comments on this. It's clear that >> there are several issues to consider and I really appreciate those who have >> pointed us in some clear directions on this. >> >> >> >> With regard to the questions about the goal of the exhibition and why we'd >> want to show the dirt, here's the story: >> >> >> >> Santa Cruz Collects is an exhibition that explores the following big idea: >> the things we collect say a lot about who we are as individuals and as a >> community. >> >> >> >> We're including collectors of all kinds - one of the top collectors of >> American flags, a university special collection, a woman who collects dryer >> lint, a man whose entire collection was burned, etc. The story is really >> focused on the WHY of collecting as well as the unique ways that people and >> institutions acquire, manage, display, and dispose of their collections. >> We're linking this both to pop culture (hoarding) and to the basic question >> of why and how museums do the work they do. >> >> >> >> In this context, the dirt collection is fascinating. The collector has a >> great story about why she feels compelled to collect this dirt as mementos >> of her work around the world, and of course, the legal issue is part of what >> makes it interesting. To many visitors, the idea that dirt could be illegal >> is bizarre--but allows them to grapple with deeper questions about why >> certain collections should or should not be acquired or displayed. The >> questions that David and others have brought up are exactly the kinds of >> questions we would want to explore with visitors. >> >> >> >> We may not show it--frankly, your responses are pushing us towards not >> doing so. But I do think it tells an interesting and useful story in the >> context of what we are trying to do. >> >> >> >> Thank you for your feedback, >> >> Nina >> >> >> >> On May 31, 2012, at 11:45 AM, BECKER, DAVID wrote: >> >> >> >> What is the goal of the exhibit? If the goal is to show differences in >> dirt from around the world, then dirt can be obtained through legal and >> ethical means. >> >> >> >> If the exhibit is about collection and the collecting process, what is the >> message that the museum wants to send about the collection process and how >> does this particular collection fit in? It could be the basis for an >> interesting discussion about the ethics of collection. Those questions could >> be raised through other representations of the collection or through other >> collections? Does the full collection need to be physically present in the >> museum? >> >> >> >> I personally don’t agree with calling it art as that was not the intent of >> the collection or the collector, i.e. it was not done by an artist with an >> intent to make art for a stated artistic purpose or message. To call it art >> for convenience sake is not in keeping with the artistic discipline that >> calling it art would represent. >> >> >> >> I guess I see it as a bigger issue than has been presented in the initial >> e-mail.  If this naturalist had illegally transported a cultural artifact >> without permission would that be o.k. to display? If this naturalist had >> transported the hide or fur of an animal that had been killed illegally, >> would that be ok to display?  When I go to a nature center, there are signs >> that tell me to take only pictures, and not take anything else with me:  Is >> it ok for me to ignore those signs for the sake of my personal collection? >> Would this same naturalist condone this same behavior if was going to be >> conducted on a larger scale by 100 people, or by 1000 people, or by >> everyone?  I think there are issues and considerations here that go beyond >> the issue of whether it is legal or not. >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> Dave Becker >> >> Senior Manager of Learning Experiences >> >> Chicago Zoological Society >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On >> Behalf Of Pickering, Bob >> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 12:51 PM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: exhibiting illegally-obtained dirt? >> >> >> >> Whether the dirt is dangerous or not, isn’t there an issue of displaying >> material that is known to be illegal? Does calling it “art” absolve the >> museum of responsibility? >> >> >> >> Bob >> >> >> >> Robert B. Pickering, PhD >> >> Director of Curatorial Affairs & Public Programs, Gilcrease Museum; >> >> Director, Museum Science and Management, University of Tulsa >> >> 1400 N. Gilcrease Museum Rd >> >> Tulsa, OK  74127 >> >> (918) 596-2706 Office >> >> (918) 596-2770 Fax >> >> (918) 805-4780 Cell >> >> [log in to unmask] >> >> >> >> From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On >> Behalf Of Nina Simon >> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:07 AM >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: [MUSEUM-L] exhibiting illegally-obtained dirt? >> >> >> >> This one is for the museum lawyers and collection management gurus out >> there. >> >> >> >> For an upcoming temporary exhibition on collections, we would like to show >> a collection of vials of dirt that a local naturalist collected on her >> travels around the world. The challenge is that much of this dirt was >> transferred into the US illegally (i.e. from countries where they are strict >> about making sure that organic material doesn't enter or leave the country) >> or was obtained with some trespassing (i.e. from celebrities' yards). She is >> nervous about exhibiting the dirt in public for this reason. >> >> >> >> My sense is that if we can call this art, it might not be a problem. >> Frankly, I don't think it's a big problem period - there's no real risk or >> danger to the dirt - but I want to learn more about how to address this >> issue. Do you know anyone who might have some expertise to bear in this >> arena? >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> >> >> Nina >> >> >> >> Nina Simon >> >> Executive Director >> >> Santa Cruz Museum of Art & History >> >> 831.429.1964 x7018 >> >> >> >> Come visit us at 705 Front Street in Santa Cruz >> >> Get involved at www.santacruzmah.org or on Facebook >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> No virus found in this message. >> >> >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2425/5036 - Release Date: 05/31/12 >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > > > > ________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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Thanks to a grant I have a half-time archivist for the next year to help with the archives/library part. So to answer your question, yes Curator and archivist are two positions that can be combined. While an individual is more likely to be better skilled in one area or another there is enough cross-training.similarities that one person can do both. If you would like more information or sample job descriptions I can send these privately.   Anna Bassford Director/Curator Santa Fe Trail Center 1349 K-156 Hwy Larned, KS 620-285-2054 [log in to unmask] www.santafetrailcenter.org   On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Tom Woods <[log in to unmask]> wrote: I'm in the process of struggling with structural deficits. Has anyone tried >(or been a part of) combining archivist and collections curatorial >positions? I realize these positions require different types of training, >but can it work and are there qualified individuals in the field to fill a >combined position? 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From: Anna Bassford <[log in to unmask]>
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Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Combining Archivist and Curatorial Positions

At the museum where I am at, thanks to cutting staff, I serve as Director/Curator and traditionally the Curator included 3D collections as well as archives and research library. Thanks to a grant I have a half-time archivist for the next year to help with the archives/library part. So to answer your question, yes Curator and archivist are two positions that can be combined. While an individual is more likely to be better skilled in one area or another there is enough cross-training.similarities that one person can do both. If you would like more information or sample job descriptions I can send these privately.
 
Anna Bassford
Director/Curator
Santa Fe Trail Center
1349 K-156 Hwy
Larned, KS
620-285-2054


 
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Tom Woods <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I'm in the process of struggling with structural deficits. Has anyone tried
(or been a part of) combining archivist and collections curatorial
positions? I realize these positions require different types of training,
but can it work and are there qualified individuals in the field to fill a
combined position? Any sample job descriptions?

Thank you.

Tom

Thomas A. Woods, Ph.D.
Executive Director
Hawaiian Mission Houses Historic Site and Archives
553 South King Street
Honolulu, HI 96813-3002
(808) 447-3911
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--1524547028-1310275902-1338595367=:18236-- ========================================================================Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 16:52:02 -0700 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: lucysperlin <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Accession Policy question regarding gifts to loans In-Reply-To: <20120601183117.DNQVW.76082.root@hrndva-web25-z02> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: This sounds like an easy peasy.... (well maybe). I'd suggest that you explain the IRS and legal issues that preclude changing it to a loan, and give her the option of putting documentation in the file as to the repository she would like to have it transferred to in event of museum closure. I've found that is usually a satisfying solution when they are simply worried and don't really want the item back. Lucy Sperlin Butte County Historical Society Oroville, CA -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sarah LeCount Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 11:31 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Accession Policy question regarding gifts to loans Hi Ramona! Wow, that's a new twist! I wonder why she is requesting the change, even though she does not want the pieces back and she believes her heirs will not want them. The basic issue is, as I see it, that if you were to make the gift into a loan, you would have to deaccession it first. Generally, deaccessioning policies state that the objects should not go back to the donor, but should be placed in another museum or sold through public auction. Additionally, if she were allowed to change the gift into a loan, what would happen upon her eventual demise? I hope she will listen to reason - keep us posted on what happens! Sarah Collections Coordinator, Rochester Museum & Science Center ---- Ramona Renfroe <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > We are in the process of reviewing our Collections Policy and have > encountered a situation that could pose a difficult precedent. > > > > Six years ago a donor gave the museum three pieces of 19th century furniture > that have become a major portion of one of our exhibits. The closure of a > regional museum and the disbursement of their collection have concerned this > lady for the stability of local museums in general. The situation is further > complicated by her relationship to certain Board members which has elevated > it beyond the wording of the Deed of Gift to an emotional discussion. She > wishes to change these items from "gift" status to "loan" status "just in > case" the same fate were to befall our museum. She does not want the pieces > back nor does she think that her heirs will want the pieces in the future. > Board members' reactions have been varied and have placed our Collections > Committee on alert to the sensitivity of this particular incident. > > > > Have any of the List members encountered a similar situation or do you have > policies in place that address such circumstances? > > > > Thanks, > > Ramona > > > > > > Ramona A. Renfroe > > Director > > Museum of Ashe County History > > 301 E. Main St. / PO Box 1404 > > Jefferson, NC 28640 > > Phone: 336.846.1904 / fax: 336.846.1932 > > [log in to unmask] > > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1424 / Virus Database: 2425/5038 - Release Date: 06/01/12 ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:18:13 +0200 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?"Verlag_Dr._C._Müller-Straten"? <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: exhibiting illegally-obtained dirt? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060602020906080907000006" Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060602020906080907000006 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Am 01.06.2012 16:33, schrieb John Marks: > Hi, > > This raises a policy question: Should museums have notices, like > social workers, that if we know of a crime/ illegal activity we must > report it? Thanks for raing this question again. To make it short: Museums have, in my eyes, not only an ethical obligation, but also legal obligations. See http://blog.museum-aktuell.de/categories/1-The-Fake-Blog I wrote: "Rechtliche und ethische Museumsverpflichtungen: die derzeitige Diskussion über Fälschungen bei MUSEUM-L Die derzeitige Diskussion in der US-amerikanischen Museums-eMailliste MUSEUM-L , die von Carrie Snow ausgelöst und von David Harvey, Norman Paul Stromdahl, Marc A Williams und Karl Cass geführt wird, dreht sich um die ethische und juristische Verantwortung von Museumspersonal im Falle angebotener Fälschungen. Damit ist jedoch nur*eine*Situation benannt, die tagtäglich auftreten kann: Denn man kann durch die ständige Screeningtätigkeit auch auf Fälschungen stoßen, die schon seit einiger Zeit im Museumsbestand sind. Reicht es also, diese Objekte zu Lernzwecken in eine Art Asservatenkammer zu sperren, oder gibt es in den unterschiedlichen Rechtssystemen nicht auch juristische Verpflichtungen, nach denen Strafverfolgungsbehörden einzuschalten wären? Möglicherweise auch noch weitergehende ethische Verpflichtungen? Was ist z.B. mit weit verbreiteten Museumspublikationen, die das Objekt möglicherweise schon seit Jahren als echt ausweisen? Wären hier nicht, ähnlich der Industrie, "Rückrufe" zu veröffentlichen? Hinzukommt die dritte unethische Dimension, daß es nämlich immer wieder vorkommt, daß Museen erkannte Fälschungen als echt wieder zurück auf den Kunstmarkt werfen, um die heißen Eisen loszuwerden und sogar noch daraus Einnahmen zu erzielen. Die katastrophale Unsicherheit, mit der in den USA dieses Thema diskutiert wird, entspricht auch der Lage bei uns. Die antwortenden Personen rieten der Sammlungskuratorin des Church History Museums, der anscheinend Fälschungen angeboten worden waren, dazu, derartige Objekte kommentarlos zurückzuweisen, um einen späteren Prozeß gegen sich selbst zu vermeiden. Beinahe zynisch muten Hinweise an, jeder zukünftige Erwerber dieser Fälschungen sei ja schließlich für sich selbst verantwortlich.Dabei übersahen diese Museumsangehörigen mitsamt, daß durch dieses "clevere" Verhalten nicht nur eine Strafverfolgung behindert oder sogar verhindert wird, sondern daß hierbei*Museen*das*Fälschungsverbreitungsrisiko *nicht nur bei Privatsammlern und dem Kunsthandel, sondern auch bei öffentlichen Einrichtungen und Privatmuseen*künstlich aufrecht erhalten.* Das Herstellung und berufsmäßige Handeln von Fälschungen steht auch in den USA unter Strafe. Erfolgt gezielt kein Hinweis an die Strafverfolgungsbehörden, verhindert somit das "clevere" Verhalten von Museen die Strafverfolgung, Konfiszierung der Ware und möglichweise sogar die Trockenlegung der Quelle. Während noch vor Jahrzehnten, etwa im Fall der "de Hory"-Fälschungen, Museen aktiv an der Strafverfolgung von Fälschungen beteiligt waren, versetzen diese Ratschläge Museen in die Rolle von Mordzeugen, die nichts gesehen haben wollen. Damit entspricht dieser Ratschlag zu derart "cleverem" Verhalten weder den bürgerlichen Pflichten noch der ICOM-Ethik der Verhinderung von "illicit trading" - denn auch der ermöglichte Verkauf von erkannten Fälschung bedeutet gesetzwidrigen Handel. Damit setzen sich Museen, die derart "clever" handeln, aber selbst einer Strafverfolgung aus, wenn ihnen nachgewiesen werden kann, daß sie gezielt und möglicherweise über Jahrzehnte hinweg die Strafverfolgungsbehörden nicht unterstützt haben. *Wie ist in einer derartigen Situation in Deutschland zu verfahren?* Zum einen reagieren die auf Fälschungen spezialisierten Landeskriminalämter in Berlin, München und Stuttgart durchaus auf dezente Hinweise aus Museumskreisen, zum anderen gäbe es die vertragliche Möglichkeit, mit dem Anbieter Aufnahme in Museumsbestände nur dann zu vereinbaren, wenn auch naturwissenschaftliche Untersuchungen museal ausgesuchter Institute keine Anzeichen für eine Fälschung erbracht haben. Deren schriftlichen Interpretationen verschiedenster Analysen sind viel weniger angreifbar als "Erfahrungsaussagen" von Kulturwissenschaftlern. Kommt ein anerkanntes, vom Museum ausgesuchtes Untersuchungslabor zum Ergebnis, das es sich bei einem Objekt um eine Fälschung handelt, sollten dies Museen auch an die LKAs weiterreichen; denn die Erfahrung lehrt, wo eine Fälschung ist, gibt es meist mehr davon. Die Landeskriminalämter können dann durch eigene Recherchen feststellen, ob ein Einzelfall vorliegt, eine Werkstätte auszumachen ist, wer die Fälscher sind bzw. ob sich auch ein Verkäufer dadurch strafbar gemacht hat, daß er trotz Vorliegens eines Fälschungsbeweises die Ware nachfolgend als echt ausgegeben hat." Best Christian > Has this ever come up in ethics discussions? (It's been awhile since > I've read the AAM Code of Museum Ethics.) "I broke the law but don't > tell anyone" puts us in a bind, especially if that person is or could > be a large donor. > > John Marks > Curator of Collections > Geneva (NY) Historical Society > > On 5/31/2012 8:12 PM, BECKER, DAVID wrote: >> >> Nick, >> >> You and I are one a similar page. I have really enjoyed this >> discussion. I am also aware that I am a bigger "museum geek" than the >> average visitor, so it may take a little bit more work to get the >> visitors hooked into a debate over when it and isn't o.k. to display >> illegal dirt, but it sure would be a lot of fun to pilot and >> prototype to see if this same type of conversation/debate could be >> generated among visiting public. >> >> Dave >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> *From:*Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >> *On Behalf Of *Nick Partridge >> *Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:01 PM >> *To:* [log in to unmask] >> *Subject:* Re: exhibiting illegally-obtained dirt? >> >> Nina, >> >> Certainly that is a concern, but only if you name the collector. >> Judging only by this thread, the collection is much more interesting >> as a question of motive and legality than it would be as "this is >> Jane Doe, and these are her Jars of Dirt." An anonymous recreation of >> the collection would hold your visitors' attention in the same way >> you've grabbed our's. >> >> Nick >> >> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Randy Little <[log in to unmask] >> > wrote: >> >> Nina I can't wait to come to your museum of condoned law breaking. >> Can I just take stuff I'm not supposed to from your museum? >> >> >> Randy S. Little >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Nina Simon <[log in to unmask] >> > wrote: >> > Hi Nick, >> > >> > My only concern with this is that it implicates and endangers the >> collector. >> > I'm not sure we're willing to do that. We want to all take the risk >> (or not) >> > together. >> > >> > Nina >> > >> > >> > >> > On May 31, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Nick Partridge wrote: >> > >> > Dave, >> > In light of your clarification: why not just recreate the exhibit with >> > domestic soil? Get a bunch of vials and a variety of soil samples. Label >> > them from different countries. Then state on the exhibit label that >> its a >> > reproduction of a collection that this person obtained illegally, and go >> > into the motives and issues surrounding her actions. You're right: it's >> > a fascinating component of your exhibit. By using a recreation of >> it, you >> > can not only use this great example of a personal collection but also go >> > into the illegalities of it. It will make it much more interesting. >> As for >> > displaying the original: it's far too dangerous to involve yourself >> and your >> > institution. >> > Thanks, >> > Nick >> > >> > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Selma Thomas <[log in to unmask] >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Thank you for your comments! I've been watching this discussion and >> >> wondering -- what about the ethics involved? It's not just a legal >> issue but >> >> also an ethical one. If a country makes it illegal to export, or >> import, >> >> organic material, how do museums set themselves above this law? >> Aren't we >> >> all mindful of the cultural and natural plundering that has taken >> place for >> >> centuries? Don't we owe those home countries some respect, >> especially if we >> >> are cultural visitors? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Museum discussion list >> [mailto:http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > > -- *Verlag Dr. C. 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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --------------060602020906080907000006 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Am 01.06.2012 16:33, schrieb John Marks:
[log in to unmask]" type="cite"> Hi,

This raises a policy question: Should museums have notices, like social workers, that if we know of a crime/ illegal activity we must report it?

Thanks for raing this question again. To make it short: Museums have, in my eyes, not only an ethical obligation, but also legal obligations.
See http://blog.museum-aktuell.de/categories/1-The-Fake-Blog
I wrote:
"Rechtliche und ethische Museumsverpflichtungen: die derzeitige Diskussion über Fälschungen bei MUSEUM-L

Die derzeitige Diskussion in der US-amerikanischen Museums-eMailliste MUSEUM-L , die von Carrie Snow ausgelöst und von David Harvey, Norman Paul Stromdahl, Marc A Williams und Karl Cass geführt wird, dreht sich um die ethische und juristische Verantwortung von Museumspersonal im Falle angebotener Fälschungen. Damit ist jedoch nur eine Situation benannt, die tagtäglich auftreten kann: Denn man kann durch die ständige Screeningtätigkeit auch auf Fälschungen stoßen, die schon seit einiger Zeit im Museumsbestand sind. Reicht es also, diese Objekte zu Lernzwecken in eine Art Asservatenkammer zu sperren, oder gibt es in den unterschiedlichen Rechtssystemen nicht auch juristische Verpflichtungen, nach denen Strafverfolgungsbehörden einzuschalten wären? Möglicherweise auch noch weitergehende ethische Verpflichtungen? Was ist z.B. mit weit verbreiteten Museumspublikationen, die das Objekt möglicherweise schon seit Jahren als echt ausweisen? Wären hier nicht, ähnlich der Industrie, "Rückrufe" zu veröffentlichen?

Hinzukommt die dritte unethische Dimension, daß es nämlich immer wieder vorkommt, daß Museen erkannte Fälschungen als echt wieder zurück auf den Kunstmarkt werfen, um die heißen Eisen loszuwerden und sogar noch daraus Einnahmen zu erzielen.

Die katastrophale Unsicherheit, mit der in den USA dieses Thema diskutiert wird, entspricht auch der Lage bei uns. Die antwortenden Personen rieten der Sammlungskuratorin des Church History Museums, der anscheinend Fälschungen angeboten worden waren, dazu, derartige Objekte kommentarlos zurückzuweisen, um einen späteren Prozeß gegen sich selbst zu vermeiden.
Beinahe zynisch muten Hinweise an, jeder zukünftige Erwerber dieser Fälschungen sei ja schließlich für sich selbst verantwortlich.
Dabei übersahen diese Museumsangehörigen mitsamt, daß durch dieses "clevere" Verhalten nicht nur eine Strafverfolgung behindert oder sogar verhindert wird, sondern daß hierbei Museen das Fälschungsverbreitungsrisiko nicht nur bei Privatsammlern und dem Kunsthandel, sondern auch bei öffentlichen Einrichtungen und Privatmuseen künstlich aufrecht erhalten.

Das Herstellung und berufsmäßige Handeln von Fälschungen steht auch in den USA unter Strafe. Erfolgt gezielt kein Hinweis an die Strafverfolgungsbehörden, verhindert somit das "clevere" Verhalten von Museen die Strafverfolgung, Konfiszierung der Ware und möglichweise sogar die Trockenlegung der Quelle. Während noch vor Jahrzehnten, etwa im Fall der "de Hory"-Fälschungen, Museen aktiv an der Strafverfolgung von Fälschungen beteiligt waren, versetzen diese Ratschläge Museen in die Rolle von Mordzeugen, die nichts gesehen haben wollen. Damit entspricht dieser Ratschlag zu derart "cleverem" Verhalten weder den bürgerlichen Pflichten noch der ICOM-Ethik der Verhinderung von "illicit trading" - denn auch der ermöglichte Verkauf von erkannten Fälschung bedeutet gesetzwidrigen Handel.

Damit setzen sich Museen, die derart "clever" handeln, aber selbst einer Strafverfolgung aus, wenn ihnen nachgewiesen werden kann, daß sie gezielt und möglicherweise über Jahrzehnte hinweg die Strafverfolgungsbehörden nicht unterstützt haben.

Wie ist in einer derartigen Situation in Deutschland zu verfahren?


Zum einen reagieren die auf Fälschungen spezialisierten Landeskriminalämter in Berlin, München und Stuttgart durchaus auf dezente Hinweise aus Museumskreisen, zum anderen gäbe es die vertragliche Möglichkeit, mit dem Anbieter Aufnahme in Museumsbestände nur dann zu vereinbaren, wenn auch naturwissenschaftliche Untersuchungen museal ausgesuchter Institute keine Anzeichen für eine Fälschung erbracht haben. Deren schriftlichen Interpretationen verschiedenster Analysen sind viel weniger angreifbar als "Erfahrungsaussagen" von Kulturwissenschaftlern. Kommt ein anerkanntes, vom Museum ausgesuchtes Untersuchungslabor zum Ergebnis, das es sich bei einem Objekt um eine Fälschung handelt, sollten dies Museen auch an die LKAs weiterreichen; denn die Erfahrung lehrt, wo eine Fälschung ist, gibt es meist mehr davon. Die Landeskriminalämter können dann durch eigene Recherchen feststellen, ob ein Einzelfall vorliegt, eine Werkstätte auszumachen ist, wer die Fälscher sind bzw. ob sich auch ein Verkäufer dadurch strafbar gemacht hat, daß er trotz Vorliegens eines Fälschungsbeweises die Ware nachfolgend als echt ausgegeben hat."

Best


Christian



[log in to unmask]" type="cite">Has this ever come up in ethics discussions? (It's been awhile since I've read the AAM Code of Museum Ethics.) "I broke the law but don't tell anyone" puts us in a bind, especially if that person is or could be a large donor.

John Marks
Curator of Collections
Geneva (NY) Historical Society

On 5/31/2012 8:12 PM, BECKER, DAVID wrote:
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Nick,

 

You and I are one a similar page. I have really enjoyed this discussion. I am also aware that I am a bigger “museum geek” than the average visitor, so it may take a little bit more work to get the visitors hooked into a debate over when it and isn’t o.k. to display illegal dirt, but it sure would be a lot of fun to pilot and prototype to see if this same type of conversation/debate could be generated among visiting public.

 

Dave

 


From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nick Partridge
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:01 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: exhibiting illegally-obtained dirt?

 

Nina, 

Certainly that is a concern, but only if you name the collector. Judging only by this thread, the collection is much more interesting as a question of motive and legality than it would be as "this is Jane Doe, and these are her Jars of Dirt." An anonymous recreation of the collection would hold your visitors' attention in the same way you've grabbed our's. 

Nick 

On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Randy Little <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Nina I can't wait to come to your museum of condoned law breaking.
Can I just take stuff I'm not supposed to from your museum?


Randy S. Little





On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Nina Simon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi Nick,
>
> My only concern with this is that it implicates and endangers the collector.
> I'm not sure we're willing to do that. We want to all take the risk (or not)
> together.
>
> Nina
>
>
>
> On May 31, 2012, at 2:02 PM, Nick Partridge wrote:
>
> Dave,
> In light of your clarification: why not just recreate the exhibit with
> domestic soil? Get a bunch of vials and a variety of soil samples. Label
> them from different countries. Then state on the exhibit label that its a
> reproduction of a collection that this person obtained illegally, and go
> into the motives and issues surrounding her actions. You're right: it's
> a fascinating component of your exhibit. By using a recreation of it, you
> can not only use this great example of a personal collection but also go
> into the illegalities of it. It will make it much more interesting. As for
> displaying the original: it's far too dangerous to involve yourself and your
> institution.
> Thanks,
> Nick
>
> On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Selma Thomas <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for your comments! I’ve been watching this discussion and
>> wondering – what about the ethics involved?  It’s not just a legal issue but
>> also an ethical one.  If a country makes it illegal to export, or import,
>> organic material,  how do museums set themselves above this law?   Aren’t we
>> all mindful of the cultural and natural plundering that has taken place for
>> centuries?  Don’t we owe those home countries some respect, especially if we
>> are cultural visitors?
>>
>>
>>
>>
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The donor is a very sweet, elderly lady who has familial ties to one of our Board Members. I believe she is in the process of getting her affairs in order. The closing of the Appalachian Cultural Museum really shook things up around here. We will be receiving several artifacts from that collection as will the Ashe County Historical Society. Our donor has ties to both the museum and the Historical Society so she has heard about the disbursement of that collection. I do not know, however, if she is aware of the procedure that was involved. Ramona -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of lucysperlin Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 7:52 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Accession Policy question regarding gifts to loans This sounds like an easy peasy.... (well maybe). I'd suggest that you explain the IRS and legal issues that preclude changing it to a loan, and give her the option of putting documentation in the file as to the repository she would like to have it transferred to in event of museum closure. I've found that is usually a satisfying solution when they are simply worried and don't really want the item back. Lucy Sperlin Butte County Historical Society Oroville, CA -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sarah LeCount Sent: Friday, June 01, 2012 11:31 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Accession Policy question regarding gifts to loans Hi Ramona! Wow, that's a new twist! I wonder why she is requesting the change, even though she does not want the pieces back and she believes her heirs will not want them. The basic issue is, as I see it, that if you were to make the gift into a loan, you would have to deaccession it first. 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:52:36 +0200 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?"Verlag_Dr._C._Müller-Straten"? <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: exhibiting illegally-obtained dirt? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000206000403060809030106" Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000206000403060809030106 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, some humble remarks from the "old world": I think, during this discussion many important things have been touched - but nevertheless the thread title does not describe the main problem. Because the collection seems to be collected (!) in most cases legally. The dirt seems not to be stolen or illegally collected from third party property. The main problems are: - Importing dirt to the US (and other countries) is treated (probably) as illegal. See the plants and soil hint - also some food import is forbidden in several countries. I remember two custom officers confiscating my food and enjoyed to eat it right away (Bavarian meetballs in Canada and Salami from Italy, in times of swine fever) - Taking pictures of any illegal material (including illicit trade items and fakes) seems to be not illegal in most democratic countries. - Exhibting illegal material in museums seems to be not illegal as long as you declare it as such (as fakes, as harmful drugs, stolen arms etc.). You may even get prohibited material from National Security Agencies for exhibition purposes. - How can you prove the origin of the dirt? Do you have to believe the "dust collector"?: The fake question - If you can not prove it: Are you going to gamble with your reputation? - Do have to inform the customs? : The ethical and legal question - Must the show really go on? - As dirt is not art and, in my eyes, a collection of dirt is nothing else but a collection of dirt (Nowadays, in a global world, for me its exchangeable "ashes to ashes") : Are you, or the collector, calling this dirt collection "art"? Why? What is the background for such a claim? - Will you be able to communicate this claim to your art and history lovers? In this case you might also gamble with your reputation (personally and institutionally) Best Christian -- *Verlag Dr. C. Müller-Straten - Spezialverlag für Museum und Restaurierung Ansprechpartner für inhaltliche Fragen: Dr. Adelheid Straten, Dr. Christian Müller-Straten; für kaufmännische Fragen: Dr. Christian Müller-Straten. 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You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --------------000206000403060809030106 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all,

some humble remarks from the "old world":

I think, during this discussion many important things have been touched - but nevertheless the thread title does not describe the main problem. Because the collection seems to be collected (!)  in most cases legally. The dirt seems not to be stolen or illegally collected from third party property.

The main problems are:

- Importing dirt to the US (and other countries) is treated (probably) as illegal. See the plants and soil hint - also some food import is forbidden in several countries. I remember two custom officers confiscating my food and enjoyed to eat it right away (Bavarian meetballs in Canada and Salami from Italy, in times of swine fever)
- Taking pictures of any illegal material (including illicit trade items and fakes) seems to be not illegal in most democratic countries.
- Exhibting illegal material in museums seems to be not illegal as long as you declare it as such (as fakes, as harmful drugs, stolen arms etc.). You may even get prohibited material from National Security Agencies for exhibition purposes.
- How can you prove the origin of the dirt? Do you have to believe the "dust collector"?: The fake question
- If you can not prove it: Are you going to gamble with your reputation?
- Do have to inform the customs? : The ethical and legal question - Must the show really go on?
- As dirt is not art and, in my eyes, a collection of dirt is nothing else but a collection of dirt  (Nowadays, in a global world, for me its exchangeable "ashes to ashes") : Are you, or the collector, calling this dirt collection "art"? Why? What is the background for such a claim?
- Will you be able to communicate this claim to your art and history lovers? In this case you might also gamble with your reputation (personally and institutionally)

Best


Christian




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--1709383693-368017755-1338799851=:67461-- ========================================================================Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 08:30:29 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: charlene martin <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Combining Archivist and Curatorial Positions In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundaryô6d0447a06b12214c04c1a4b3c0 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --f46d0447a06b12214c04c1a4b3c0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Tom, one of the strengths of my recent MSLIS/archives degree at Syracuse University is that the curriculum required students to enroll in both museum/curatorial classes as well as archival/special collections classes. I'm currently looking for such a job, please feel free review my LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/charlenelmartin. For sample job descriptions, go to http://archivesgig.livejournal.com and scroll through the tags on the left hand side until you find "type: museum". Some good blogs to check just for context of the trend overall (we call it "LAMs") is http://hangingtogether.org/. ***************************************** > Due to the nature of our particular situation, the term is used > interchangably for your truly. Major objects are somewhat separate, but > the archives are not unless there is a large set that can be recognized. > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Anna Bassford <[log in to unmask]> > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Sent:* Friday, June 1, 2012 11:31 AM > *Subject:* Re: [MUSEUM-L] Combining Archivist and Curatorial Positions > > At the museum where I am at, thanks to cutting staff, I serve as > Director/Curator and traditionally the Curator included 3D collections as > well as archives and research library. Thanks to a grant I have a half-time > archivist for the next year to help with the archives/library part. So to > answer your question, yes Curator and archivist are two positions that can > be combined. While an individual is more likely to be better skilled in one > area or another there is enough cross-training.similarities that one person > can do both. If you would like more information or sample job descriptions > I can send these privately. > > Anna Bassford > Director/Curator > Santa Fe Trail Center > 1349 K-156 Hwy > Larned, KS > 620-285-2054 > [log in to unmask] > www.santafetrailcenter.org > > > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Tom Woods <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > > I'm in the process of struggling with structural deficits. Has anyone tried > (or been a part of) combining archivist and collections curatorial > positions? I realize these positions require different types of training, > but can it work and are there qualified individuals in the field to fill a > combined position? Any sample job descriptions? > > Thank you. > > Tom > > Thomas A. Woods, Ph.D. > Executive Director > Hawaiian Mission Houses Historic Site and Archives > 553 South King Street > Honolulu, HI 96813-3002 > (808) 447-3911 > [log in to unmask] > http://www.missionhouses.org/ > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail > message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should > read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . 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For sample job descriptions, go to http://archivesgig.livejournal.com and scroll through the tags on the left hand side until you find "type: museum". Some good blogs to check just for context of the trend overall (we call it "LAMs") is http://hangingtogether.org/.


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Due to the nature of our particular situation, the term is used interchangably for your truly.  Major objects are somewhat separate, but the archives are not unless there is a large set that can be recognized.


From: Anna Bassford <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Combining Archivist and Curatorial Positions

At the museum where I am at, thanks to cutting staff, I serve as Director/Curator and traditionally the Curator included 3D collections as well as archives and research library. Thanks to a grant I have a half-time archivist for the next year to help with the archives/library part. So to answer your question, yes Curator and archivist are two positions that can be combined. While an individual is more likely to be better skilled in one area or another there is enough cross-training.similarities that one person can do both. If you would like more information or sample job descriptions I can send these privately.
 
Anna Bassford
Director/Curator
Santa Fe Trail Center
1349 K-156 Hwy
Larned, KS


 
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Tom Woods <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I'm in the process of struggling with structural deficits. Has anyone tried
(or been a part of) combining archivist and collections curatorial
positions? I realize these positions require different types of training,
but can it work and are there qualified individuals in the field to fill a
combined position? Any sample job descriptions?

Thank you.

Tom

Thomas A. Woods, Ph.D.
Executive Director
Hawaiian Mission Houses Historic Site and Archives
553 South King Street
Honolulu, HI 96813-3002
(808) 447-3911
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--f46d0447a06b12214c04c1a4b3c0-- ========================================================================Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 08:26:02 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Anne W. Ackerson" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Emergency or Poor Planning? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary cf300fb33f21ef2e04c1a4a34d Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --20cf300fb33f21ef2e04c1a4a34d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi, Listers -- I thought many of you would be interested in this experience where board members were asked to approve staff requests for funding of items that were "off budget", but considered urgent. There are lessons for boards and staff in this real-life example. http://bit.ly/Ln49VZ Anne -- Read my Blog: http://leadingbydesign.blogspot.com/ Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/leadingbydesign Visit my Website: www.awackerson.com/ Anne W. Ackerson Principal Creative Leadership & Management Solutions 1914 Burdett Avenue Troy, New York 12180 T: 518-271-2455 E: [log in to unmask] ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --20cf300fb33f21ef2e04c1a4a34d Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Listers --

I thought many of you would be interested in this experience where board members were asked to approve staff requests for funding of items that were "off budget", but considered urgent.  There are lessons for boards and staff in this real-life example.  http://bit.ly/Ln49VZ

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--20cf300fb33f21ef2e04c1a4a34d-- ========================================================================Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:03:04 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Jansonius, Remko (Vizcaya)" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Vikane vs. Vikane XRM-5162 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CD425B.134400F3" Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD425B.134400F3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Fellow Listers: I am researching fumigants for a full fumigation/tenting campaign later this summer. Is anyone of you aware of the issues of "regular Vikane" vs. "Vikane XRM-5162," or do you have experience with one versus the other, or whether there is any choice at all? I'd like to know more about the 0.2% or so of additives to the sulfuryl fluoride. Thanks, Remko Jansonius, Collections and Archives Manager Vizcaya Museum and Gardens Miami, FL 305-860-8433 www.vizcayamuseum.org ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD425B.134400F3 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear Fellow Listers:

 

I am researching fumigants for a full fumigation/tenting campaign later this summer. Is anyone of you aware of the issues of “regular Vikane” vs. “Vikane XRM-5162,” or do you have experience with one versus the other, or whether there is any choice at all? I’d like to know more about the 0.2% or so of additives to the sulfuryl fluoride.

 

Thanks,

 

Remko Jansonius, Collections and Archives Manager

Vizcaya Museum and Gardens

Miami, FL

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------_=_NextPart_001_01CD425B.134400F3-- ========================================================================Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:10:20 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Cindy Gardner <[log in to unmask]> Subject: FIC items available MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> MDAH has a some "Found in Collections" items that are not needed in our collection. Please take a look at the following link to see if your museum would like any of the items. http://www.mdah.state.ms.us/emailupload/uploads/FICforDonation.zip -- Cindy Gardner Director of Collections, Museum Division Project Manager, Museum of Mississippi History Mississippi Department of Archives and History P.O. Box 571 Jackson, MS 39205-0571 Telephone: 601/576-6901 Facsimile: 601/576-6815 Email: [log in to unmask] ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 11:28:17 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Cunningham, Flo" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: reminder - webinar on June 6: ADVANCE YOUR EDUCATION/CAREER WITH LIS WORKSHOPS Comments: To: "aamg[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_C82D447FD6A06F46BEA4066646DCD7ABF237F1D95AKENTSMBX01KEN_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --_000_C82D447FD6A06F46BEA4066646DCD7ABF237F1D95AKENTSMBX01KEN_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The School of Library and Information Science at Kent State University invites you to join us for an upcoming Wednesday Webinar: June 6 at noon (Eastern time): ADVANCE YOUR EDUCATION/CAREER WITH LIS WORKSHOPS Register at: http://bit.ly/LISworkshops6june. You will receive an email with the link to the webinar a day or two prior to the event. See below for additional details. ADVANCE YOUR EDUCATION/CAREER WITH LIS WORKSHOPS The School of Library and Information Science at Kent State University offers a robust schedule of workshops that will benefit students AND professionals in libraries, museums and other cultural and information organizations. Among the current offerings are: * DATABASE DESIGN/APPLICATIONS * GENEALOGY AND LOCAL HISTORY RESEARCH METHODS * TIPS/TRICKS FOR SEARCHING ONLINE DATABASES * DESIGNING SUCCESSFUL GRANT PROJECTS * WRITING AND DEVELOPING AN EXHIBIT SCRIPT * PRACTICAL PUBLIC RELATIONS AND COMMUNICATION TOOLS FOR PUBLIC LIBRARIANS * VIDEO GAMES IN THE PUBLIC LIBRARY * And more! Register for our upcoming Wednesday Webinar to find out what's being offered this summer and fall. Plus, learn how to register and how workshops can help you advance your career or enhance your education. Presenters: Rhonda Filipan, SLIS academic program coordinator; Don A. Wicks, Ph.D., SLIS interim director; and Lorelei Hoover, current M.L.I.S. student Register at: http://bit.ly/LISworkshops6june. You will receive an email with the link to the webinar a day or two prior to the event. (Note: If you do not already have Silverlight on your computer, you may need to download it in order to view the presentation. It's free at http://www.microsoft.com/getsilverlight/Get-Started/Install/Default.aspx/. ) For more information on SLIS workshops, visit http://www.kent.edu/slis/programs/workshops.cfm. If you've missed some of our recent webinars, you'll find them archived on our website: http://www.kent.edu/slis/programs/wednesday-webinars.cfm. All the best, Flo <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~> Flo Cunningham Marketing Communications and Public Relations Director School of Library and Information Science Kent State University 330-672-0003 [log in to unmask] www.kent.edu/slis Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ksuslis Twitter: @KentStateSLIS I have always imagined that Paradise will be a kind of library. -- Jorge Luis Borges ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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The School of Library and Information Science at Kent State University invites you to join us for an upcoming Wednesday Webinar:

 

June 6 at noon (Eastern time):

ADVANCE YOUR EDUCATION/CAREER WITH LIS WORKSHOPS

 

Register at: http://bit.ly/LISworkshops6june. You will receive an email with the link to the webinar a day or two prior to the event.

 

See below for additional details.

 

 

 

ADVANCE YOUR EDUCATION/CAREER WITH LIS WORKSHOPS

 

The School of Library and Information Science at Kent State University offers a robust schedule of workshops that will benefit students AND professionals in libraries, museums and other cultural and information organizations.

 

Among the current offerings are:

 

·         DATABASE DESIGN/APPLICATIONS

·         GENEALOGY AND LOCAL HISTORY RESEARCH METHODS

·         TIPS/TRICKS FOR SEARCHING ONLINE DATABASES

·         DESIGNING SUCCESSFUL GRANT PROJECTS

·         WRITING AND DEVELOPING AN EXHIBIT SCRIPT

·         PRACTICAL PUBLIC RELATIONS AND COMMUNICATION TOOLS FOR PUBLIC LIBRARIANS

·         VIDEO GAMES IN THE PUBLIC LIBRARY

·         And more!

 

Register for our upcoming Wednesday Webinar to find out what’s being offered this summer and fall. Plus, learn how to register and how workshops can help you advance your career or enhance your education.

Presenters: Rhonda Filipan, SLIS academic program coordinator; Don A. Wicks, Ph.D., SLIS interim director; and Lorelei Hoover, current M.L.I.S. student

Register at: http://bit.ly/LISworkshops6june. You will receive an email with the link to the webinar a day or two prior to the event.

(Note: If you do not already have Silverlight on your computer, you may need to download it in order to view the presentation. It's free at http://www.microsoft.com/getsilverlight/Get-Started/Install/Default.aspx/. )

 

For more information on SLIS workshops, visit http://www.kent.edu/slis/programs/workshops.cfm.

 

If you’ve missed some of our recent webinars, you’ll find them archived on our website: http://www.kent.edu/slis/programs/wednesday-webinars.cfm.

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Flo

 

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Flo Cunningham

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School of Library and Information Science

Kent State University

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--_000_C82D447FD6A06F46BEA4066646DCD7ABF237F1D95AKENTSMBX01KEN_-- ========================================================================Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:25:16 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Katherine Kuhl <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Regis University Master of Non-Profit Management MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01CD423C.55965940" Message-ID: <000001cd4266$3e6c6140$bb4523c0$@edu> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CD423C.55965940 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, Does anyone have any experience with this school/program or have opinions on it? I currently hold an M.A. in Public History, but finding that it doesn't provide me with any real marketable skills, I'm thinking of returning to school (after several years in the field) for a more useful degree. Any and all opinions would be appreciated! Thanks in advance! -Katie Katie Kuhl Bindery Specialist/Special Collections Assistant Monroe Library, Loyola University New Orleans 504-864-7849 ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CD423C.55965940 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi All,

   Does anyone have any experience with this school/program or have opinions on it?  I currently hold an M.A. in Public History, but finding that it doesn’t provide me with any real marketable skills, I’m thinking of returning to school (after several years in the field) for a more useful degree.  Any and all opinions would be appreciated!

 

Thanks in advance!

 

-Katie

 

Katie Kuhl

Bindery Specialist/Special Collections Assistant

Monroe Library, Loyola University New Orleans

504-864-7849

 



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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01CD423C.55965940-- ========================================================================Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:46:18 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Latham, Kiersten" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: FW: museum studies master's degree program In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CBF241E37A57kflathamkentedu_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --_000_CBF241E37A57kflathamkentedu_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: , Flo <[log in to unmask]> To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]> Cc: "Latham, Kiersten" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: museum studies master's degree program Hi, Katherine, I’m writing in response to your query on the Museum-L listserv last week. The School of Library and Information Science at Kent State University offers a unique approach to the field of museum studies. Ours is the first (and maybe only) museum studies program housed in a school of library and information science (in the US). As such, we take a more holistic approach to the subject, as opposed to those programs that are housed in, say, an art department or history department. As you know, museums, like libraries, are in the information business. In our courses, students gain an understanding of museums in context as dynamic, interactive information systems composed of people, objects, and activities. What distinguishes the SLIS approach is that the museum is at the center of study, not disciplinary content. Because the SLIS courses are structured within a library and information science framework, students are able to cut across the spectrum of traditional academic disciplines, which strengthens the skills of future museum professional by giving them a broader perspective, a larger knowledge base, and more flexibility. Given your interest in “manuscripts, books, and paper; interpreting, preserving, and archiving them,” it sounds like this approach might be just what you’re looking for. You can also take courses in archives and digital preservation, for example, to round out your education. (Actually, I am also a student in this program, with very much the same interests as you!) You can find out more about our program here: http://www.kent.edu/slis/programs/mlis/museum-studies.cfm. It’s also worth mentioning that our tuition is very affordable, and YOU CAN GET THE DEGREE ENTIRELY ONLINE! I hope this is helpful. If you have any questions, please feel welcome to contact me or Dr. Kiersten F. Latham ([log in to unmask]), who heads up the museum studies specialization. YOUR MESSAGE: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 07:54:15 -0700 From: Katherine Janson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Museum Studies question Hello All! I am looking into earning my MA in Museum Studies. I especially want to work with manuscripts, books, and paper; interpreting, preserving, and archiving them. Will a general Museum Studies program be enough, or should I get a more focused degree? I already have a double BA in Medieval Studies and History. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! >>> All the best, Flo <~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~> Flo Cunningham Marketing Communications and Public Relations Director School of Library and Information Science Kent State University 330-672-0003 [log in to unmask] www.kent.edu/slis Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ksuslis Twitter: @KentStateSLIS I have always imagined that Paradise will be a kind of library. -- Jorge Luis Borges ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --_000_CBF241E37A57kflathamkentedu_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

From: <Cunningham>, Flo <[log in to unmask]>
To: "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
Cc: "Latham, Kiersten" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: museum studies master's degree program

Hi, Katherine,

 

I’m writing in response to your query on the Museum-L listserv last week.

 

The School of Library and Information Science at Kent State University offers a unique approach to the field of museum studies. Ours is the first (and maybe only) museum studies program housed in a school of library and information science (in the US). As such, we take a more holistic approach to the subject, as opposed to those programs that are housed in, say, an art department or history department.

 

As you know, museums, like libraries, are in the information business. In our courses, students gain an understanding of museums in context as dynamic, interactive information systems composed of people, objects, and activities.

What distinguishes the SLIS approach is that the museum is at the center of study, not disciplinary content.  Because the SLIS courses are structured within a library and information science framework, students are able to cut across the spectrum of traditional academic disciplines, which strengthens the skills of future museum professional by giving them a broader perspective, a larger knowledge base, and more flexibility.

 

Given your interest in “manuscripts, books, and paper; interpreting, preserving, and archiving them,” it sounds like this approach might be just what you’re looking for. You can also take courses in archives and digital preservation, for example, to round out your education. (Actually, I am also a student in this program, with very much the same interests as you!)

 

You can find out more about our program here: http://www.kent.edu/slis/programs/mlis/museum-studies.cfm.

 

It’s also worth mentioning that our tuition is very affordable, and YOU CAN GET THE DEGREE ENTIRELY ONLINE!

 

I hope this is helpful. If you have any questions, please feel welcome to contact me or Dr. Kiersten F. Latham ([log in to unmask]), who heads up the museum studies specialization.

 

 

 

 

YOUR MESSAGE:

Date:    Fri, 1 Jun 2012 07:54:15 -0700
From:    Katherine Janson <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Museum Studies question

Hello All!

I am looking into earning my MA in Museum Studies.  I especially want to work with manuscripts, books, and paper; interpreting, preserving, and archiving them.  Will a general Museum Studies program be enough, or should I get a more focused degree?  I already have a double BA in Medieval Studies and History.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

>>>

 

All the best,

 

Flo

 

<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>~<~>

Flo Cunningham

Marketing Communications and Public Relations Director

School of Library and Information Science

Kent State University

330-672-0003

[log in to unmask]

 

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--_000_CBF241E37A57kflathamkentedu_-- ========================================================================Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:29:01 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Marten, Jessica" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: collecting digital art MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CD427F.EA32F504" Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD427F.EA32F504 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have any museums made public their guidelines for collecting digitally-created art? In addition to a practical guide, I would also be interested in a philosophical discussion of the topic. Any suggestions? Many thanks for your input! Jess Marten Jessica Marten Curator of American Art Memorial Art Gallery 500 University Ave. Rochester, NY 14609 (P) 585.276.8980 (F) 585.473.6266 ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD427F.EA32F504 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Have any museums made public their guidelines for collecting digitally-created art?  In addition to a practical guide, I would also be interested in a philosophical discussion of the topic.  Any suggestions?

 

Many thanks for your input!

Jess Marten

 

Jessica Marten

Curator of American Art

Memorial Art Gallery

500 University Ave.

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------_=_NextPart_001_01CD427F.EA32F504-- ========================================================================Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:35:48 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Julie Leone <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: collecting digital art In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary7d7b33d95082190d04c1a9cdc3 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --047d7b33d95082190d04c1a9cdc3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Please post to the list. I would be interested as well. *Julie Leone* Collections Manager/Registrar *[log in to unmask]* Gund Gallery Kenyon College Gambier, Ohio 43022 740 427 5971 Phone 740 427 7071 Fax www.gundgallery.com On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 2:29 PM, Marten, Jessica <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > Have any museums made public their guidelines for collecting > digitally-created art? In addition to a practical guide, I would also be > interested in a philosophical discussion of the topic. Any suggestions?** > ** > > ** ** > > Many thanks for your input!**** > > Jess Marten**** > > ** ** > > Jessica Marten**** > > Curator of American Art**** > > Memorial Art Gallery**** > > 500 University Ave.**** > > Rochester, NY 14609**** > > (P) 585.276.8980**** > > (F) 585.473.6266**** > > ** ** > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --047d7b33d95082190d04c1a9cdc3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please post to the list.  I would be interested as well. 

Julie Leone
Collections Manager/Registrar

Gund Gallery
Kenyon College
Gambier, Ohio 43022



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Have any museums made public their guidelines for collecting digitally-created art?  In addition to a practical guide, I would also be interested in a philosophical discussion of the topic.  Any suggestions?

 

Many thanks for your input!

Jess Marten

 

Jessica Marten

Curator of American Art

Memorial Art Gallery

500 University Ave.

Rochester, NY  14609

(P) 585.276.8980

(F) 585.473.6266

 



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--047d7b33d95082190d04c1a9cdc3-- ========================================================================Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:09:09 -0700 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Beth Parker Miller <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="264668936-501981196-1338840549=:41811" Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --264668936-501981196-1338840549=:41811 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We have recently received the following email.  We are investigating its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such an email as well. Thank you. Beth Parker Miller Registrar Winterthur Museum [log in to unmask] 302-888-4988   From:SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM To: Linda Eaton Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781   Dear Mrs.Eaton, May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie.   These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am working.   I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at slender prices. I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can consult it. My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be evaluated by a neutral expert. Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest convenience. As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due forme" in a few days. Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible, With best regards    Eva STERZING Avocat à la Cour Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine 92100 Boulogne Billancourt Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20 Fax : 01.77.87.70.24 ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --264668936-501981196-1338840549=:41811 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
We have recently received the following email.  We are investigating its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such an email as well.
Thank you.
Beth Parker Miller
Registrar
Winterthur Museum
302-888-4988
 
From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM
To: Linda Eaton
Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781
 
Dear Mrs.Eaton,
May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie.  
These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am working.  
I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at slender prices.
I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can consult it.
My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be evaluated by a neutral expert.
Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest convenience.
As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due forme" in a few days.
Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible,
With best regards
  
Eva STERZING
Avocat à la Cour
Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company
adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine
92100 Boulogne Billancourt
Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20
Fax : 01.77.87.70.24
 


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--264668936-501981196-1338840549=:41811-- ========================================================================Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 15:20:39 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Shana West <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Perhaps this is relevant: http://www.aam-us.org/pubs/mn/MN_MA06_VitalizingMemoryExcerpt.cfm On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Beth Parker Miller <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > We have recently received the following email.  We are investigating its > legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such > an email as well. > Thank you. > Beth Parker Miller > Registrar > Winterthur Museum > [log in to unmask] > 302-888-4988 > > From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM > To: Linda Eaton > Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann > Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781 > > Dear Mrs.Eaton, > May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa > and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who > had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from > being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five > companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of > the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very > profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie. > These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They > hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported > to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They > had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans > who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am > working. > I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art > galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name > of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens > which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a > so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, > plate 71, at slender prices. > I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes > such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of > California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can > consult it. > My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens > back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is > rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount > these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be > evaluated by a neutral expert. > Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot > live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled > persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest > convenience. > As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is > working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due > forme" in a few days. > Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible, > With best regards > > Eva STERZING > Avocat à la Cour > Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company > adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine > 92100 Boulogne Billancourt > Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20 > Fax : 01.77.87.70.24 > > > ________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:26:32 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: John Marks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050106070602070205020303" Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050106070602070205020303 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit A quick search on Eva Sterzing brought up this: http://gov.ca.gov/news.php?id996 John Marks Curator of Collections Geneva (NY) Historical Society On 6/4/2012 4:09 PM, Beth Parker Miller wrote: > We have recently received the following email. We are investigating > its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have > received such an email as well. > Thank you. > Beth Parker Miller > Registrar > Winterthur Museum > [log in to unmask] > 302-888-4988 > *From:*SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > *Sent:* Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM > *To:* Linda Eaton > *Subject:* Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by > Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781 > Dear Mrs.Eaton, > May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of > Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in > Berlin who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to > escape from being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the > liquidator of the five companies they inherited the shares of by a > bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at this > time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as > the van Diemen & Co. Cie. > These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. > They hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested > and deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of > sorrow in Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced > Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, > got maried and had children for whom I am working. > I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the > art galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in > the the name of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned > silver soup tureens which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at > the Graupe auction, a so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April > 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at slender prices. > I settled many files for my clients with American museums and > institutes such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State > of California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that > you can consult it. > My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver > tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of > the heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you > pay them the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the > tureens have to be evaluated by a neutral expert. > Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my > clients cannot live anymore alone and are in very expensive > institutions for desabled persons. So please let us settle the present > matter at your earliest convenience. > As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else > is working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne > et due forme" in a few days. > Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible, > With best regards > Eva STERZING > Avocat à la Cour > Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company > adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine > 92100 Boulogne Billancourt > Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20 > Fax : 01.77.87.70.24 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > > ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --------------050106070602070205020303 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A quick search on Eva Sterzing brought up this:

http://gov.ca.gov/news.php?id996

John Marks
Curator of Collections
Geneva (NY) Historical Society

On 6/4/2012 4:09 PM, Beth Parker Miller wrote:
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We have recently received the following email.  We are investigating its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such an email as well.
Thank you.
Beth Parker Miller
Registrar
Winterthur Museum
302-888-4988
 
From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM
To: Linda Eaton
Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781
 
Dear Mrs.Eaton,
May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie.  
These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am working.  
I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at slender prices.
I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can consult it.
My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be evaluated by a neutral expert.
Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest convenience.
As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due forme" in a few days.
Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible,
With best regards
  
Eva STERZING
Avocat à la Cour
Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company
adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine
92100 Boulogne Billancourt
Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20
Fax : 01.77.87.70.24
 


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--------------050106070602070205020303-- ========================================================================Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:28:43 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: John Marks <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Of course, someone could be posing as Eva Sterzing so you need to verify that as well... John Marks On 6/4/2012 4:20 PM, Shana West wrote: > Perhaps this is relevant: > > http://www.aam-us.org/pubs/mn/MN_MA06_VitalizingMemoryExcerpt.cfm > > On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Beth Parker Miller > <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> We have recently received the following email. We are investigating its >> legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such >> an email as well. >> Thank you. >> Beth Parker Miller >> Registrar >> Winterthur Museum >> [log in to unmask] >> 302-888-4988 >> >> From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM >> To: Linda Eaton >> Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann >> Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781 >> >> Dear Mrs.Eaton, >> May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa >> and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who >> had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from >> being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five >> companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of >> the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very >> profitable way, such as the van Diemen& Co. Cie. >> These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They >> hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported >> to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They >> had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans >> who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am >> working. >> I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art >> galeries one of which is the van Diemen& Co. company, and in the the name >> of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens >> which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a >> so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, >> plate 71, at slender prices. >> I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes >> such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of >> California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can >> consult it. >> My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens >> back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is >> rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount >> these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be >> evaluated by a neutral expert. >> Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot >> live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled >> persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest >> convenience. >> As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is >> working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due >> forme" in a few days. >> Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible, >> With best regards >> >> Eva STERZING >> Avocat à la Cour >> Liquidator of the van Diemen& Co company >> adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine >> 92100 Boulogne Billancourt >> Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20 >> Fax : 01.77.87.70.24 >> >> >> ________________________________ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > > ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:37:18 -0700 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Beth Parker Miller <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-781490481-1766830239-1338842238=:65557" Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> ---781490481-1766830239-1338842238=:65557 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I should have said that we are aware that there have been legitimate claims by this party, but this email is a bit odd.  We have decided to wait for a formal letter.   Beth ________________________________ From: Shana West <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? Perhaps this is relevant: http://www.aam-us.org/pubs/mn/MN_MA06_VitalizingMemoryExcerpt.cfm On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Beth Parker Miller <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > We have recently received the following email.  We are investigating its > legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such > an email as well. > Thank you. > Beth Parker Miller > Registrar > Winterthur Museum > [log in to unmask] > 302-888-4988 > > From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM > To: Linda Eaton > Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann > Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781 > > Dear Mrs.Eaton, > May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa > and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who > had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from > being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five > companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of > the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very > profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie. > These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They > hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported > to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They > had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans > who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am > working. > I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art > galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name > of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens > which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a > so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, > plate 71, at slender prices. > I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes > such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of > California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can > consult it. > My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens > back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is > rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount > these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be > evaluated by a neutral expert. > Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot > live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled > persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest > convenience. > As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is > working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due > forme" in a few days. > Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible, > With best regards > > Eva STERZING > Avocat à la Cour > Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company > adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine > 92100 Boulogne Billancourt > Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20 > Fax : 01.77.87.70.24 > > > ________________________________ > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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I should have said that we are aware that there have been legitimate claims by this party, but this email is a bit odd.  We have decided to wait for a formal letter.
 
Beth
From: Shana West <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit?

Perhaps this is relevant:

http://www.aam-us.org/pubs/mn/MN_MA06_VitalizingMemoryExcerpt.cfm

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Beth Parker Miller
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> We have recently received the following email.  We are investigating its
> legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such
> an email as well.
> Thank you.
> Beth Parker Miller
> Registrar
> Winterthur Museum
> [log in to unmask]
> 302-888-4988
>
> From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM
> To: Linda Eaton
> Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann
> Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781
>
> Dear Mrs.Eaton,
> May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa
> and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who
> had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from
> being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five
> companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of
> the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very
> profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie.
> These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They
> hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported
> to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They
> had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans
> who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am
> working.
> I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art
> galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name
> of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens
> which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a
> so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337,
> plate 71, at slender prices.
> I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes
> such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of
> California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can
> consult it.
> My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens
> back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is
> rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount
> these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be
> evaluated by a neutral expert.
> Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot
> live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled
> persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest
> convenience.
> As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is
> working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due
> forme" in a few days.
> Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible,
> With best regards
>
> Eva STERZING
> Avocat à la Cour
> Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company
> adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine
> 92100 Boulogne Billancourt
> Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20
> Fax : 01.77.87.70.24
>
>
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---781490481-1766830239-1338842238=:65557-- ========================================================================Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 15:24:01 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Dirk Van Tuerenhout <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? - probably not In-Reply-To: A<[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CD428F.FA684EDD" Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD428F.FA684EDD Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Beth, I read your email. I think that this is a hoax, for several reasons: - Any reputable legal firm pursuing this would contact you by regular mail, with a letter written on their firm's letterhead - Any reputable legal firm would also know how to spell "Smithsonian" (followed by "Institution") - Equally, they would also know how to spell the word "museum" correctly. - The verb "overlive" strikes me as a direct and literal translation of the German verb "ueberleben," meaning to survive. Why would a reputable firm not know this? - There a many more incorrectly spelled words, not what one would expect from a reputable firm. Too many shady issues going on here in my opinion to believe that this is a legit request. The format reminds me more of the many email requests we all get from some "barrister" on behalf of the widow of a Nigerian general who crashed his plane. Regards (et bonne chance), Dirk Van Tuerenhout Curator of anthropology Houston Museum of Natural Science ________________________________ From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Beth Parker Miller Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:09 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? We have recently received the following email. We are investigating its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such an email as well. Thank you. Beth Parker Miller Registrar Winterthur Museum [log in to unmask] 302-888-4988 From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM To: Linda Eaton Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781 Dear Mrs.Eaton, May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie. These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am working. I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at slender prices. I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can consult it. My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be evaluated by a neutral expert. Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest convenience. As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due forme" in a few days. Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible, With best regards Eva STERZING Avocat à la Cour Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine 92100 Boulogne Billancourt Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20 Fax : 01.77.87.70.24 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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Hello Beth,

 

I read your email. I think that this is a hoax, for several reasons:

 

-          Any reputable legal firm pursuing this would contact you by regular mail, with a letter written on their firm’s letterhead

-          Any reputable legal firm would also know how to spell “Smithsonian” (followed by “Institution”)

-          Equally, they would also know how to spell the word “museum” correctly.

-          The verb “overlive” strikes me as a direct and literal translation of the German verb “ueberleben,” meaning to survive. Why would a reputable firm not know this?

-          There a many more incorrectly spelled words, not what one would expect from a reputable firm.

 

Too many shady issues going on here in my opinion to believe that this is a legit request.

 

The format reminds me more of the many email requests we all get from some “barrister” on behalf of the widow of a Nigerian general who crashed his plane.

 

 

Regards (et bonne chance),

 

Dirk Van Tuerenhout

Curator of anthropology

Houston Museum of Natural Science

 


From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Beth Parker Miller
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:09 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit?

 

We have recently received the following email.  We are investigating its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such an email as well.

Thank you.

Beth Parker Miller

Registrar

Winterthur Museum

302-888-4988

 

From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM
To: Linda Eaton
Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781

 

Dear Mrs.Eaton,

May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie.  

These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am working.  

I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at slender prices.

I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can consult it.

My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be evaluated by a neutral expert.

Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest convenience.

As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due forme" in a few days.

Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible,

With best regards

  

Eva STERZING
Avocat à la Cour

Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company
adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine
92100 Boulogne Billancourt
Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20
Fax : 01.77.87.70.24

 



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------_=_NextPart_001_01CD428F.FA684EDD-- ========================================================================Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:44:15 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Marc A Williams <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0087_01CD4271.471664C0" Message-ID: <6EB1215234CF40A7AC4595830B6CF908@PC261231188215> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0087_01CD4271.471664C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Beth, This really smacks of phishing, although it is more cleaver than most by identifying a specific item. 1) It is an email. Legal documents generally are sent by certified mail at the very least. 2) The email is poorly written. The spacing and paragraph breaks are wrong. There are numerous spelling errors. Some of this could be due to translation software, but if so, no one bothered to proof read. If they have settled with numerous other American institutions, one would think they would have a reasonable grasp of the English language. 3) The return email address appears fishy. The domain is wanadoo.fr, not the name of the legal firm. What self-respecting law firm does not have its own domain name? This may be real, but if it were me, I would wait until I heard something official via certified mail. As with any possible phishing attempt, it is best not to respond to the email. Marc Marc A. Williams, President, American Conservation Consortium MS in Art Conservation, Winterthur Museum Program Former Chief Wooden Objects Conservator, Smithsonian Institution Fellow, American Institute for Conservation (AIC) ----- Original Message ----- From: Beth Parker Miller To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 4:09 PM Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? We have recently received the following email. We are investigating its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such an email as well. Thank you. Beth Parker Miller Registrar Winterthur Museum [log in to unmask] 302-888-4988 From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM To: Linda Eaton Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781 Dear Mrs.Eaton, May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie. These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am working. I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at slender prices. I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can consult it. My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be evaluated by a neutral expert. Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest convenience. As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due forme" in a few days. Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible, With best regards Eva STERZING Avocat à la Cour Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine 92100 Boulogne Billancourt Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20 Fax : 01.77.87.70.24 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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Beth,
 
This really smacks of phishing, although it is more cleaver than most by identifying a specific item.
 
1) It is an email.  Legal documents generally are sent by certified mail at the very least.
 
2) The email is poorly written.  The spacing and paragraph breaks are wrong.  There are numerous spelling errors.  Some of this could be due to translation software, but if so, no one bothered to proof read.  If they have settled with numerous other American institutions, one would think they would have a reasonable grasp of the English language.
 
3) The return email address appears fishy.  The domain is wanadoo.fr, not the name of the legal firm.  What self-respecting law firm does not have its own domain name? 
 
This may be real, but if it were me, I would wait until I heard something official via certified mail.  As with any possible phishing attempt, it is best not to respond to the email.
 
Marc

Marc A. Williams, President, American Conservation Consortium
     MS in Art Conservation, Winterthur Museum Program
     Former Chief Wooden Objects Conservator, Smithsonian Institution
     Fellow, American Institute for Conservation (AIC)
 
 
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 4:09 PM
Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit?

We have recently received the following email.  We are investigating its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such an email as well.
Thank you.
Beth Parker Miller
Registrar
Winterthur Museum
302-888-4988
 
From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM
To: Linda Eaton
Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781
 
Dear Mrs.Eaton,
May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie.  
These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am working.  
I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at slender prices.
I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can consult it.
My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be evaluated by a neutral expert.
Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest convenience.
As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due forme" in a few days.
Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible,
With best regards
  
Eva STERZING
Avocat à la Cour
Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company
adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine
92100 Boulogne Billancourt
Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20
Fax : 01.77.87.70.24
 


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------=_NextPart_000_0087_01CD4271.471664C0-- ========================================================================Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:08:43 -0700 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Amanda Hughes <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? In-Reply-To: <6EB1215234CF40A7AC4595830B6CF908@PC261231188215> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundaryè9a8f22c6f55e5de004c1abf063 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --e89a8f22c6f55e5de004c1abf063 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Beth, I agree with the opinions this is probably phishing. Also I live in San Diego and there is no San Diego Museum. There is the San Diego History Center, or the Museum of Man and several art museums but no museum in the area is simply called the San Diego Museum. Best of luck, Amanda MA Museum Studies MLS Archive and Records Management On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Marc A Williams <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > ** > Beth, > > This really smacks of phishing, although it is more cleaver than most by > identifying a specific item. > > 1) It is an email. Legal documents generally are sent by certified mail > at the very least. > > 2) The email is poorly written. The spacing and paragraph breaks are > wrong. There are numerous spelling errors. Some of this could be due to > translation software, but if so, no one bothered to proof read. If they > have settled with numerous other American institutions, one would think > they would have a reasonable grasp of the English language. > > 3) The return email address appears fishy. The domain is wanadoo.fr, not > the name of the legal firm. What self-respecting law firm does not have > its own domain name? > > This may be real, but if it were me, I would wait until I heard something > official via certified mail. As with any possible phishing attempt, it is > best not to respond to the email. > > Marc > > Marc A. Williams, President, American Conservation Consortium > MS in Art Conservation, Winterthur Museum Program > Former Chief Wooden Objects Conservator, Smithsonian Institution > Fellow, American Institute for Conservation (AIC) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Beth Parker Miller <[log in to unmask]> > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Sent:* Monday, June 04, 2012 4:09 PM > *Subject:* [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? > > We have recently received the following email. We are investigating its > legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such > an email as well. > Thank you. > Beth Parker Miller > Registrar > Winterthur Museum > [log in to unmask] > 302-888-4988 > > *From:* SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > *Sent:* Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM > *To:* Linda Eaton > *Subject:* Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by > Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781 **** > **** > Dear Mrs.Eaton, **** > May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa > and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who > had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from > being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five > companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one > of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a > very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie. **** > These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They > hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and > deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in > Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married > STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had > children for whom I am working. **** > I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art > galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name > of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens > which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a > so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, > plate 71, at slender prices.**** > I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes > such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of > California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can > consult it.**** > My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver > tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the > heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them > the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have > to be evaluated by a neutral expert.**** > Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot > live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled > persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest > convenience. **** > As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is > working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due > forme" in a few days.**** > Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible,**** > With best regards **** > **** > Eva STERZING > Avocat à la Cour**** > Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company > adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine > 92100 Boulogne Billancourt > Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20 > Fax : 01.77.87.70.24**** > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --e89a8f22c6f55e5de004c1abf063 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Beth,

I agree with the opinions this is probably phishing. Also I live in San Diego and there is no San Diego Museum. There is the San Diego History Center, or the Museum of Man and several art museums but no museum in the area is simply called the San Diego Museum.

Best of luck,

Amanda
MA Museum Studies
MLS Archive and Records Management

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 1:44 PM, Marc A Williams <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Beth,
 
This really smacks of phishing, although it is more cleaver than most by identifying a specific item.
 
1) It is an email.  Legal documents generally are sent by certified mail at the very least.
 
2) The email is poorly written.  The spacing and paragraph breaks are wrong.  There are numerous spelling errors.  Some of this could be due to translation software, but if so, no one bothered to proof read.  If they have settled with numerous other American institutions, one would think they would have a reasonable grasp of the English language.
 
3) The return email address appears fishy.  The domain is wanadoo.fr, not the name of the legal firm.  What self-respecting law firm does not have its own domain name? 
 
This may be real, but if it were me, I would wait until I heard something official via certified mail.  As with any possible phishing attempt, it is best not to respond to the email.
 
Marc

Marc A. Williams, President, American Conservation Consortium
     MS in Art Conservation, Winterthur Museum Program
     Former Chief Wooden Objects Conservator, Smithsonian Institution
     Fellow, American Institute for Conservation (AIC)
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: [log in to unmask]" href="mailto:[log in to unmask]" target="_blank">Beth Parker Miller
To: [log in to unmask]" href="mailto:[log in to unmask]" target="_blank">[log in to unmask]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 4:09 PM
Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit?

We have recently received the following email.  We are investigating its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such an email as well.
Thank you.
Beth Parker Miller
Registrar
Winterthur Museum
 
From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM
To: Linda Eaton
Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781
 
Dear Mrs.Eaton,
May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie.  
These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am working.  
I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at slender prices.
I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can consult it.
My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be evaluated by a neutral expert.
Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest convenience.
As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due forme" in a few days.
Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible,
With best regards
  
Eva STERZING
Avocat à la Cour
Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company
adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine
92100 Boulogne Billancourt
Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20
Fax : 01.77.87.70.24
 


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--e89a8f22c6f55e5de004c1abf063-- ========================================================================Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 15:55:58 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Dirk Van Tuerenhout <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? In-Reply-To: A<6EB1215234CF40A7AC4595830B6CF908@PC261231188215> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CD4294.7100FD4C" Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD4294.7100FD4C Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Marc, "Phishy" indeed. If one searches for the lawyer's name, this is what shows up (source: http://www.dfj.org/ajfa.html): Kontaktadresse Sekretariat: Mme. Eva Sterzing, Avocate 17, rue de Longchamp F-75116 Paris, France Tel. 0033-1-47.04.67.27 Fax 0033-1-47.04.78.01 Internet: www.ajfa.fr Notice the differences in email address, mailing address and phone numbers. Regards, Dirk Dirk Van Tuerenhout Curator of anthropology Houston Museum of Natural Science ________________________________ From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Marc A Williams Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:44 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? Beth, This really smacks of phishing, although it is more cleaver than most by identifying a specific item. 1) It is an email. Legal documents generally are sent by certified mail at the very least. 2) The email is poorly written. The spacing and paragraph breaks are wrong. There are numerous spelling errors. Some of this could be due to translation software, but if so, no one bothered to proof read. If they have settled with numerous other American institutions, one would think they would have a reasonable grasp of the English language. 3) The return email address appears fishy. The domain is wanadoo.fr, not the name of the legal firm. What self-respecting law firm does not have its own domain name? This may be real, but if it were me, I would wait until I heard something official via certified mail. As with any possible phishing attempt, it is best not to respond to the email. Marc Marc A. Williams, President, American Conservation Consortium MS in Art Conservation, Winterthur Museum Program Former Chief Wooden Objects Conservator, Smithsonian Institution Fellow, American Institute for Conservation (AIC) ----- Original Message ----- From: Beth Parker Miller To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 4:09 PM Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? We have recently received the following email. We are investigating its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such an email as well. Thank you. Beth Parker Miller Registrar Winterthur Museum [log in to unmask] 302-888-4988 From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM To: Linda Eaton Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781 Dear Mrs.Eaton, May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie. These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am working. I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at slender prices. I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can consult it. My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be evaluated by a neutral expert. Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest convenience. As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due forme" in a few days. Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible, With best regards Eva STERZING Avocat à la Cour Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine 92100 Boulogne Billancourt Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20 Fax : 01.77.87.70.24 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). 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Marc,

 

“Phishy” indeed. If one searches for the lawyer’s name, this is what shows up (source: http://www.dfj.org/ajfa.html):

Kontaktadresse

Sekretariat: Mme. Eva Sterzing, Avocate
17, rue de Longchamp
F-75116 Paris, France
Tel. 0033-1-47.04.67.27
Fax 0033-1-47.04.78.01
Internet: www.ajfa.fr

Notice the differences in email address,  mailing address and phone numbers.

 

Regards,

 

Dirk

 

 

Dirk Van Tuerenhout

Curator of anthropology

Houston Museum of Natural Science

 


From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Marc A Williams
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:44 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit?

 

Beth,

 

This really smacks of phishing, although it is more cleaver than most by identifying a specific item.

 

1) It is an email.  Legal documents generally are sent by certified mail at the very least.

 

2) The email is poorly written.  The spacing and paragraph breaks are wrong.  There are numerous spelling errors.  Some of this could be due to translation software, but if so, no one bothered to proof read.  If they have settled with numerous other American institutions, one would think they would have a reasonable grasp of the English language.

 

3) The return email address appears fishy.  The domain is wanadoo.fr, not the name of the legal firm.  What self-respecting law firm does not have its own domain name? 

 

This may be real, but if it were me, I would wait until I heard something official via certified mail.  As with any possible phishing attempt, it is best not to respond to the email.

 

Marc

 

Marc A. Williams, President, American Conservation Consortium
     MS in Art Conservation, Winterthur Museum Program
     Former Chief Wooden Objects Conservator, Smithsonian Institution
     Fellow, American Institute for Conservation (AIC)

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: [log in to unmask]">Beth Parker Miller

Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 4:09 PM

Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit?

 

We have recently received the following email.  We are investigating its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such an email as well.

Thank you.

Beth Parker Miller

Registrar

Winterthur Museum

302-888-4988

 

From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM
To: Linda Eaton
Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781

 

Dear Mrs.Eaton,

May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie.  

These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am working.  

I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at slender prices.

I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can consult it.

My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be evaluated by a neutral expert.

Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest convenience.

As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due forme" in a few days.

Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible,

With best regards

  

Eva STERZING
Avocat à la Cour

Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company
adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine
92100 Boulogne Billancourt
Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20
Fax : 01.77.87.70.24

 

 


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------_=_NextPart_001_01CD4294.7100FD4C-- ========================================================================Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 18:33:57 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Barbara Hass <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF10B943D30793_1AAC_5CB33_webmail-d070.sysops.aol.com" Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF10B943D30793_1AAC_5CB33_webmail-d070.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" http://www.hoaxbusters.org/ this site can usually verify internet emails and other sources and cee if they are a hoax. Best wishes, Barbara, retired librarian -----Original Message----- From: Beth Parker Miller <[log in to unmask]> To: MUSEUM-L <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Mon, Jun 4, 2012 2:12 pm Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? We have recently received the following email. We are investigating its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such an email as well. Thank you. Beth Parker Miller Registrar Winterthur Museum [log in to unmask] 302-888-4988 From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM To: Linda Eaton Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781 Dear Mrs.Eaton, May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie. These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am working. I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at slender prices. I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can consult it. My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be evaluated by a neutral expert. Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest convenience. As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due forme" in a few days. Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible, With best regards Eva STERZING Avocat à la Cour Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine 92100 Boulogne Billancourt Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20 Fax : 01.77.87.70.24 To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ----------MB_8CF10B943D30793_1AAC_5CB33_webmail-d070.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
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-----Original Message-----
From: Beth Parker Miller <[log in to unmask]>
To: MUSEUM-L <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Mon, Jun 4, 2012 2:12 pm
Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit?

We have recently received the following email.  We are investigating its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such an email as well.
Thank you.
Beth Parker Miller
Registrar
Winterthur Museum
302-888-4988
 
From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM
To: Linda Eaton
Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781
 
Dear Mrs.Eaton,
May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie.  
These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am working.  
I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at slender prices.
I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can consult it.
My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be evaluated by a neutral expert.
Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest convenience.
As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due forme" in a few days.
Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible,
With best regards
  
Eva STERZING
Avocat à la Cour
Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company
adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine
92100 Boulogne Billancourt
Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20
Fax : 01.77.87.70.24
 


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----------MB_8CF10B943D30793_1AAC_5CB33_webmail-d070.sysops.aol.com-- ========================================================================Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:13:51 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Andy Grilz <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? In-Reply-To: [log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundaryMessage-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --00151747be58ee7a7704c1adaff9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Also, this. http://www.theartnewspaper.com/articles/Museum-returns-Baroque-painting-confiscated-during-Nazi-era-/21333 The thing I noted is the quote from Ms. Sterzing, (who is evidently a very prominent name in the field of plundered art). Unless the reporter felt the need to paraphrase and give Sterzing a very elaborate vocabulary, her English is impeccable. On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Andy Grilz <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > The language strikes me as a bit odd, and the lack of corroborating > documentation (and the fact that the first contact was by email) seems a > bit sketchy. Lawyers love a paper trail. Proceed with caution, and good > luck. > > /Not a lawyer. > > > On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Barbara Hass <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> http://www.hoaxbusters.org/ >> >> this site can usually verify internet emails and other sources and cee if >> they are a hoax. >> >> Best wishes, Barbara, retired librarian >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Beth Parker Miller <[log in to unmask]> >> To: MUSEUM-L <[log in to unmask]> >> Sent: Mon, Jun 4, 2012 2:12 pm >> Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? >> >> We have recently received the following email. We are investigating >> its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have >> received such an email as well. >> Thank you. >> Beth Parker Miller >> Registrar >> Winterthur Museum >> [log in to unmask] >> 302-888-4988 >> >> *From:* SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>] >> >> *Sent:* Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM >> *To:* Linda Eaton >> *Subject:* Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by >> Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781 >> >> Dear Mrs.Eaton, >> May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of >> Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin >> who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from >> being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five >> companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one >> of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a >> very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie. >> These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They >> hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and >> deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in >> Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married >> STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had >> children for whom I am working. >> I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art >> galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name >> of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens >> which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a >> so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, >> plate 71, at slender prices. >> I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes >> such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of >> California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can >> consult it. >> My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver >> tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the >> heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them >> the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have >> to be evaluated by a neutral expert. >> Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot >> live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled >> persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest >> convenience. >> As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is >> working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due >> forme" in a few days. >> Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible, >> With best regards >> >> Eva STERZING >> Avocat à la Cour >> Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company >> adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine >> 92100 Boulogne Billancourt >> Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20 >> Fax : 01.77.87.70.24 >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >> > > ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --00151747be58ee7a7704c1adaff9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Also, this.

http://www.theartnewspaper.com/articles/Museum-returns-Baroque-painting-confiscated-during-Nazi-era-/21333

The thing I noted is the quote from Ms. Sterzing, (who is evidently a very prominent name in the field of plundered art).

Unless the reporter felt the need to paraphrase and give Sterzing a very elaborate vocabulary, her English is impeccable.

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 7:04 PM, Andy Grilz <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
The language strikes me as a bit odd, and the lack of corroborating documentation (and the fact that the first contact was by email) seems a bit sketchy. Lawyers love a paper trail. Proceed with caution, and good luck.

/Not a lawyer.


On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Barbara Hass <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
this site can usually verify internet emails and other sources and cee if they are a hoax.
Best wishes, Barbara, retired librarian


-----Original Message-----
From: Beth Parker Miller <[log in to unmask]>
To: MUSEUM-L <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Mon, Jun 4, 2012 2:12 pm
Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit?

We have recently received the following email.  We are investigating its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such an email as well.
Thank you.
Beth Parker Miller
Registrar
Winterthur Museum
 
From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM
To: Linda Eaton
Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781
 
Dear Mrs.Eaton,
May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie.  
These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am working.  
I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at slender prices.
I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can consult it.
My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be evaluated by a neutral expert.
Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest convenience.
As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due forme" in a few days.
Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible,
With best regards
  
Eva STERZING
Avocat à la Cour
Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company
adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine
92100 Boulogne Billancourt
Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20
Fax : 01.77.87.70.24
 


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--00151747be58ee7a7704c1adaff9-- ========================================================================Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:04:50 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Andy Grilz <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundaryMessage-ID: [log in to unmask]> --00151759286eaaf44604c1ad8f7c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The language strikes me as a bit odd, and the lack of corroborating documentation (and the fact that the first contact was by email) seems a bit sketchy. Lawyers love a paper trail. Proceed with caution, and good luck. /Not a lawyer. On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Barbara Hass <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > http://www.hoaxbusters.org/ > > this site can usually verify internet emails and other sources and cee if > they are a hoax. > > Best wishes, Barbara, retired librarian > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Beth Parker Miller <[log in to unmask]> > To: MUSEUM-L <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Mon, Jun 4, 2012 2:12 pm > Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? > > We have recently received the following email. We are investigating its > legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such > an email as well. > Thank you. > Beth Parker Miller > Registrar > Winterthur Museum > [log in to unmask] > 302-888-4988 > > *From:* SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>] > *Sent:* Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM > *To:* Linda Eaton > *Subject:* Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by > Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781 > > Dear Mrs.Eaton, > May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa > and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who > had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from > being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five > companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one > of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a > very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie. > These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They > hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and > deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in > Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married > STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had > children for whom I am working. > I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art > galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name > of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens > which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a > so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, > plate 71, at slender prices. > I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes > such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of > California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can > consult it. > My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver > tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the > heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them > the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have > to be evaluated by a neutral expert. > Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot > live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled > persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest > convenience. > As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is > working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due > forme" in a few days. > Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible, > With best regards > > Eva STERZING > Avocat à la Cour > Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company > adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine > 92100 Boulogne Billancourt > Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20 > Fax : 01.77.87.70.24 > > > ------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --00151759286eaaf44604c1ad8f7c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The language strikes me as a bit odd, and the lack of corroborating documentation (and the fact that the first contact was by email) seems a bit sketchy. Lawyers love a paper trail. Proceed with caution, and good luck.

/Not a lawyer.

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 6:33 PM, Barbara Hass <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
this site can usually verify internet emails and other sources and cee if they are a hoax.
Best wishes, Barbara, retired librarian


-----Original Message-----
From: Beth Parker Miller <[log in to unmask]>
To: MUSEUM-L <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Mon, Jun 4, 2012 2:12 pm
Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit?

We have recently received the following email.  We are investigating its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such an email as well.
Thank you.
Beth Parker Miller
Registrar
Winterthur Museum
 
From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM
To: Linda Eaton
Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781
 
Dear Mrs.Eaton,
May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie.  
These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am working.  
I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at slender prices.
I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can consult it.
My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be evaluated by a neutral expert.
Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest convenience.
As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due forme" in a few days.
Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible,
With best regards
  
Eva STERZING
Avocat à la Cour
Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company
adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine
92100 Boulogne Billancourt
Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20
Fax : 01.77.87.70.24
 


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--00151759286eaaf44604c1ad8f7c-- ========================================================================Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 00:57:08 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Julie Blood <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Hi Beth, The California Association of Museums had a session on Museum Ethics at their annual conference this last February. One of the speakers for this session was Hoyt Fields the Director of Hearst Castle. They have dealt with the legitimate lawyers for the Oppenheimer family. You should contact him and get his opinion of the email, but just from reading it, it doesn't look very legitimate. Good Luck, Julie ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 06:25:20 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ruth Taylor <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Of course it is not legit! Ruth S. Taylor Executive Director Newport Historical Society www.newporthistorical.org 401-846-0813 ________________________________ From: Museum discussion list on behalf of Beth Parker Miller Sent: Mon 6/4/2012 4:16 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? We have recently received the following email. We are investigating its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such an email as well. Thank you. Beth Parker Miller Registrar Winterthur Museum [log in to unmask] 302-888-4988 From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM To: Linda Eaton Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781 Dear Mrs.Eaton, May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie. These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am working. I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at slender prices. I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can consult it. My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be evaluated by a neutral expert. Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest convenience. As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due forme" in a few days. Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible, With best regards Eva STERZING Avocat à la Cour Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine 92100 Boulogne Billancourt Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20 Fax : 01.77.87.70.24 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 09:31:41 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Scott Forosisky <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Agreed. Put that email directly in the 'delete' folder. Scott Forosisky Membership Services Coordinator Fort Worth Museum of Science and History 1600 Gendy St Fort Worth, TX  76107 817-255-9404 -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ruth Taylor Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 5:25 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? Of course it is not legit! Ruth S. Taylor Executive Director Newport Historical Society www.newporthistorical.org 401-846-0813 ________________________________ From: Museum discussion list on behalf of Beth Parker Miller Sent: Mon 6/4/2012 4:16 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? We have recently received the following email. We are investigating its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such an email as well. Thank you. Beth Parker Miller Registrar Winterthur Museum [log in to unmask] 302-888-4988 From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM To: Linda Eaton Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781 Dear Mrs.Eaton, May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie. These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am working. I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at slender prices. I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can consult it. My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be evaluated by a neutral expert. Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest convenience. As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due forme" in a few days. Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible, With best regards Eva STERZING Avocat à la Cour Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine 92100 Boulogne Billancourt Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20 Fax : 01.77.87.70.24 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 15:40:18 +0100 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Dominique Bouchard <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> The email is absolutely legitimate and should not be taken lightly. The email address belongs to a lawyer who has now successfully prosecuted cases on behalf of a family who are seeking to claim their rights to works of art (or their value) which were liquidated after having been stolen by Nazis. There is a very long paper trail of similar cases brought (successfully) by this lawyer. The family is very well informed and have very specific and detailed information about the pieces in question. Other museums which have encountered a claim originating from this case were contacted initially by fax and the vast majority of correspondence was carried out by email. I wish your museum luck in dealing with this. I (humbly) suggest that you consider strongly your choice to forward any related future correspondence to an email list like Museum-L as the family and/or lawyer in question might not feel that the resulting discussion fell within the bounds of professional discretion, especially given the number of responders who have asserted that they are running a scam and the sensitivity of the issue. In the rush to gather whether this email is real it may have been all too easy to forget that the family have been the victim of a very serious crime in which they are among many, many people who lost their lives and livelihoods. Best wishes, Dominique Bouchard -- Dr Dominique Bouchard Hunt Museum Curator of Education and Outreach Address: Hunt Museum, Rutland Street, Limerick, Ireland Tel: +353 (061) 312 833 Email:[log in to unmask] www.huntmuseum.com The Hunt Museum’s Gift Shop showcases a wide range of local and international crafts and gifts. Every purchase made supports the museum’s valuable work. Find us on Facebook, Twitter and Foursquare! ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 10:41:54 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Barbara Hass <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF11407CA2265A_1EB8_5F01_webmail-d070.sysops.aol.com" Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF11407CA2265A_1EB8_5F01_webmail-d070.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" this agency might help and they also might be interested in a hoax about the topic http://www.lootedartcommission.com/home Best wishes, Barbara, retired librarian -----Original Message----- From: Scott Forosisky <[log in to unmask]> To: MUSEUM-L <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:33 am Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? Agreed. Put that email directly in the 'delete' folder. Scott Forosisky Membership Services Coordinator Fort Worth Museum of Science and History 1600 Gendy St Fort Worth, TX 76107 817-255-9404 -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ruth Taylor Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 5:25 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? Of course it is not legit! Ruth S. Taylor Executive Director Newport Historical Society www.newporthistorical.org 401-846-0813 ________________________________ From: Museum discussion list on behalf of Beth Parker Miller Sent: Mon 6/4/2012 4:16 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? We have recently received the following email. We are investigating its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such an email as well. Thank you. Beth Parker Miller Registrar Winterthur Museum [log in to unmask] 302-888-4988 From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM To: Linda Eaton Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781 Dear Mrs.Eaton, May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie. These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am working. I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at slender prices. I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can consult it. My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be evaluated by a neutral expert. Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest convenience. As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due forme" in a few days. Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible, With best regards Eva STERZING Avocat à la Cour Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine 92100 Boulogne Billancourt Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20 Fax : 01.77.87.70.24 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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this agency might help and they also might be interested in a hoax about the topic
http://www.lootedartcommission.com/home

Best wishes, Barbara, retired librarian


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Forosisky <[log in to unmask]>
To: MUSEUM-L <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tue, Jun 5, 2012 8:33 am
Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit?

Agreed.  Put that email directly in the 'delete' folder.

Scott Forosisky
Membership Services Coordinator
Fort Worth Museum of Science and History
1600 Gendy St
Fort Worth, TX  76107
817-255-9404


-----Original Message-----
From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of 
Ruth Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 5:25 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit?

Of course it is not legit!
 
Ruth S. Taylor
Executive Director
Newport Historical Society
<http://www.newporthistorical.org/> www.newporthistorical.org 
<http://www.newporthistorical.org/> 
401-846-0813

________________________________

From: Museum discussion list on behalf of Beth Parker Miller
Sent: Mon 6/4/2012 4:16 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit?


We have recently received the following email.  We are investigating its 
legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such an email 
as well.
Thank you.
Beth Parker Miller
Registrar
Winterthur Museum
[log in to unmask] 
302-888-4988
 
From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM
To: Linda Eaton
Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann 
Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781 
 
Dear Mrs.Eaton, 
May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa and 
Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who had to 
leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from being murdered by 
Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five companies they inherited 
the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at 
this time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as the van 
Diemen & Co. Cie.  
These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They hid in 
Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported to 
Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They had 
three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who 
overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am working.  
I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art 
galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name of 
all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens which 
Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a so-called 
"Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at 
slender prices.
I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes such as 
SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of California etc. The 
settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can consult it.
My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens back 
to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is rich 
enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount these 
works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be evaluated by a 
neutral expert.
Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot live 
anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled persons. So 
please let us settle the present matter at your earliest convenience. 
As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is working 
in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due forme" in a 
few days.
Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible,
With best regards 
  
Eva STERZING
Avocat à la Cour
Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company
adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine
92100 Boulogne Billancourt
Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20
Fax : 01.77.87.70.24
 

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----------MB_8CF11407CA2265A_1EB8_5F01_webmail-d070.sysops.aol.com-- ========================================================================Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 09:47:27 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Misschf <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Censorship or Just Business? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundaryè9a8f503904b5b28b04c1babaeb Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --e89a8f503904b5b28b04c1babaeb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello all, I'm a grad student in the Museum Studies program at the University of Oklahoma. I've been volunteering with a small Tulsa museum that focuses on the art deco era. The museum is housed (hosted may be a better term) in a historic downtown building. The property owners have provided the museum access to several large display windows in the lobby as well as a good-sized space for the museum itself at an extremely discounted rate. Yesterday, the museum owner received an e-mail from the property owners with concerns about displaying this image in the lobby: http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4610/skyport5x7cardwebwater.jpg The property owners worry that the image is "a little too racy for some of the tours that go through the lobby." I'm sure there will be further discussion regarding compromises, it is not clear whether the image would be acceptable inside the museum room rather than in a lobby window display or if it would be okay to cover the offending parts in the display, but as a student I was curious to see what your more knowledgeable take on the situation would be. This doesn't seem to fit into the traditional censorship scenarios because of the interesting dynamic between the museum and the property. Is this a situation where the museum should stand up for artistic integrity, or should they be more concerned with biting the hand that feeds them? Thanks for your time, Heather Hollingsworth ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --e89a8f503904b5b28b04c1babaeb Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all,

I'm a grad student in the Museum Studies program at the University of Oklahoma. I've been volunteering with a small Tulsa museum that focuses on the art deco era. The museum is housed (hosted may be a better term) in a historic downtown building. The property owners have provided the museum access to several large display windows in the lobby as well as a good-sized space for the museum itself at an extremely discounted rate.

Yesterday, the museum owner received an e-mail from the property owners with concerns about displaying this image in the lobby:

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4610/skyport5x7cardwebwater.jpg

The property owners worry that the image is "a little too racy for some of the tours that go through the lobby."

I'm sure there will be further discussion regarding compromises, it is not clear whether the image would be acceptable inside the museum room rather than in a lobby window display or if it would be okay to cover the offending parts in the display, but as a student I was curious to see what your more knowledgeable take on the situation would be. This doesn't seem to fit into the traditional censorship scenarios because of the interesting dynamic between the museum and the property.

Is this a situation where the museum should stand up for artistic integrity, or should they be more concerned with biting the hand that feeds them?

Thanks for your time,
Heather Hollingsworth


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--e89a8f503904b5b28b04c1babaeb-- ========================================================================Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 10:49:04 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Elizabeth Walton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary7d7b15ab1f7d4cdf04c1bac0a2 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --047d7b15ab1f7d4cdf04c1bac0a2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Noone has said that the family does not have legitimate claims at many museums, or that the name of the lawyer is the same as a legitimate woman who fights for these, what is being said is that this email is not really from her, that it is a fake. On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Dominique Bouchard < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > The email is absolutely legitimate and should not be taken lightly. > > The email address belongs to a lawyer who has now successfully prosecuted > cases on behalf of a family who are seeking to claim their rights to works > of art (or their value) which were liquidated after having been stolen by > Nazis. There is a very long paper trail of similar cases brought > (successfully) by this lawyer. The family is very well informed and have > very specific and detailed information about the pieces in question. > > Other museums which have encountered a claim originating from this case > were contacted initially by fax and the vast majority of correspondence was > carried out by email. > > I wish your museum luck in dealing with this. I (humbly) suggest that you > consider strongly your choice to forward any related future correspondence > to an email list like Museum-L as the family and/or lawyer in question > might not feel that the resulting discussion fell within the bounds of > professional discretion, especially given the number of responders who have > asserted that they are running a scam and the sensitivity of the issue. > > In the rush to gather whether this email is real it may have been all too > easy to forget that the family have been the victim of a very serious crime > in which they are among many, many people who lost their lives and > livelihoods. > > Best wishes, > Dominique Bouchard > > -- > Dr Dominique Bouchard > Hunt Museum Curator of Education and Outreach > > Address: Hunt Museum, Rutland Street, Limerick, Ireland > Tel: +353 (061) 312 833 > Email:[log in to unmask] > > www.huntmuseum.com > > The Hunt Museum’s Gift Shop showcases a wide range of local and > international crafts and gifts. Every purchase made supports the museum’s > valuable work. > > Find us on Facebook, Twitter and Foursquare! > > ==============================**=========================== > Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/** > museum-l-faq/ . You may > obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one > line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the > message should read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --047d7b15ab1f7d4cdf04c1bac0a2 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Noone has said that the family does not have legitimate claims at many museums, or that the name of the lawyer is the same as a legitimate woman who fights for these, what is being said is that this email is not really from her, that it is a fake. 

 

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Dominique Bouchard <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
The email is absolutely legitimate and should not be taken lightly.

The email address belongs to a lawyer who has now successfully prosecuted cases on behalf of a family who are seeking to claim their rights to works of art (or their value) which were liquidated after having been stolen by Nazis. There is a very long paper trail of similar cases brought (successfully) by this lawyer. The family is very well informed and have very specific and detailed information about the pieces in question.

Other museums which have encountered a claim originating from this case were contacted initially by fax and the vast majority of correspondence was carried out by email.

I wish your museum luck in dealing with this. I (humbly) suggest that you consider strongly your choice to forward any related future correspondence to an email list like Museum-L as the family and/or lawyer in question might not feel that the resulting discussion fell within the bounds of professional discretion, especially given the number of responders who have asserted that they are running a scam and the sensitivity of the issue.

In the rush to gather whether this email is real it may have been all too easy to forget that the family have been the victim of a very serious crime in which they are among many, many people who lost their lives and livelihoods.

Best wishes,
Dominique Bouchard

--
Dr Dominique Bouchard
Hunt Museum Curator of Education and Outreach

Address: Hunt Museum, Rutland Street, Limerick, Ireland
Tel: +353 (061) 312 833
Email:[log in to unmask]

www.huntmuseum.com

The Hunt Museum’s Gift Shop showcases a wide range of local and international crafts and gifts. Every purchase made supports the museum’s valuable work.

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--047d7b15ab1f7d4cdf04c1bac0a2-- ========================================================================Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 07:49:15 -0700 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: randy Little <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> LOL you have his email. I suggest you give it and all following emails to the FBI. Its not legit. When the lawyer shows up at your door(not going to happen) then its legit. This is about as un-legit as it gets and this email address should be IMMEDIATELY given to the FBI FRAUD Dept. He is right though it is serious and the FBI will agree and pursue this. On Jun 5, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Dominique Bouchard wrote: > The email is absolutely legitimate and should not be taken lightly. > > The email address belongs to a lawyer who has now successfully prosecuted cases on behalf of a family who are seeking to claim their rights to works of art (or their value) which were liquidated after having been stolen by Nazis. There is a very long paper trail of similar cases brought (successfully) by this lawyer. The family is very well informed and have very specific and detailed information about the pieces in question. > > Other museums which have encountered a claim originating from this case were contacted initially by fax and the vast majority of correspondence was carried out by email. > > I wish your museum luck in dealing with this. I (humbly) suggest that you consider strongly your choice to forward any related future correspondence to an email list like Museum-L as the family and/or lawyer in question might not feel that the resulting discussion fell within the bounds of professional discretion, especially given the number of responders who have asserted that they are running a scam and the sensitivity of the issue. > > In the rush to gather whether this email is real it may have been all too easy to forget that the family have been the victim of a very serious crime in which they are among many, many people who lost their lives and livelihoods. > > Best wishes, > Dominique Bouchard > > -- > Dr Dominique Bouchard > Hunt Museum Curator of Education and Outreach > > Address: Hunt Museum, Rutland Street, Limerick, Ireland > Tel: +353 (061) 312 833 > Email:[log in to unmask] > > www.huntmuseum.com > > The Hunt Museum’s Gift Shop showcases a wide range of local and international crafts and gifts. Every purchase made supports the museum’s valuable work. > > Find us on Facebook, Twitter and Foursquare! > > ========================================================= > Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 10:00:44 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Cass Karl <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> I am NOT a lawyer, but I am very curious about how this will pan out. You may not want to answer any of these questions on list, but... Do you have such turreens? If so, what provenance do you have on them? If I had received this claim, I would start with that. Even if the email is a scam (which it seems like to me), if you think there could be a legit claim on these objects, you may want to start that research, just in case. On 6/4/12, Beth Parker Miller <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > We have recently received the following email. We are investigating its > legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such > an email as well. > Thank you. > Beth Parker Miller > Registrar > Winterthur Museum > [log in to unmask] > 302-888-4988 > > From:SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM > To: Linda Eaton > Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann > Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781 > > Dear Mrs.Eaton, > May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa > and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who > had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from > being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five > companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of > the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very > profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie. > These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They > hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported > to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They > had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans > who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am > working. > I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art > galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name > of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens > which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a > so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, > plate 71, at slender prices. > I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes > such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of > California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can > consult it. > My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens > back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is > rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount > these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be > evaluated by a neutral expert. > Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot > live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled > persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest > convenience. > As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is > working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due > forme" in a few days. > Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible, > With best regards > > Eva STERZING > Avocat à la Cour > Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company > adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine > 92100 Boulogne Billancourt > Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20 > Fax : 01.77.87.70.24 > > ========================================================= > Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message > to [log in to unmask] . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 10:59:39 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Andy Grilz <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundaryMessage-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --00151747be585d2f2a04c1bae648 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This incident has intrigued me. I looked up Mrs. Sterzing on an online directory, and found the phone number and email address you received this letter from can be backtracked to that name. http://www.123pages.fr/b/sterzing-eva-boulogne-billancourt That being said, there are many ways to hide behind a proxy server and pretend to be one email address while the data is diverted to another. I retain my original position - the email was badly written, should not have been the means of initial contact, and should be considered highly suspect. I would recommend contacting Mrs. Sterzing independently of the email, and find out if she is in fact aware of this message. Best of luck Andrew Grilz On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:49 AM, randy Little <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > LOL you have his email. I suggest you give it and all following emails to > the FBI. Its not legit. When the lawyer shows up at your door(not going > to happen) then its legit. This is about as un-legit as it gets and this > email address should be IMMEDIATELY given to the FBI FRAUD Dept. > He is right though it is serious and the FBI will agree and pursue this. > > On Jun 5, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Dominique Bouchard wrote: > > > The email is absolutely legitimate and should not be taken lightly. > > > > The email address belongs to a lawyer who has now successfully > prosecuted cases on behalf of a family who are seeking to claim their > rights to works of art (or their value) which were liquidated after having > been stolen by Nazis. There is a very long paper trail of similar cases > brought (successfully) by this lawyer. The family is very well informed and > have very specific and detailed information about the pieces in question. > > > > Other museums which have encountered a claim originating from this case > were contacted initially by fax and the vast majority of correspondence was > carried out by email. > > > > I wish your museum luck in dealing with this. I (humbly) suggest that > you consider strongly your choice to forward any related future > correspondence to an email list like Museum-L as the family and/or lawyer > in question might not feel that the resulting discussion fell within the > bounds of professional discretion, especially given the number of > responders who have asserted that they are running a scam and the > sensitivity of the issue. > > > > In the rush to gather whether this email is real it may have been all > too easy to forget that the family have been the victim of a very serious > crime in which they are among many, many people who lost their lives and > livelihoods. > > > > Best wishes, > > Dominique Bouchard > > > > -- > > Dr Dominique Bouchard > > Hunt Museum Curator of Education and Outreach > > > > Address: Hunt Museum, Rutland Street, Limerick, Ireland > > Tel: +353 (061) 312 833 > > Email:[log in to unmask] > > > > www.huntmuseum.com > > > > The Hunt Museum’s Gift Shop showcases a wide range of local and > international crafts and gifts. Every purchase made supports the museum’s > valuable work. > > > > Find us on Facebook, Twitter and Foursquare! > > > > ========================================================= > > Important Subscriber Information: > > > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail > message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should > read "help" (without the quotes). > > > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message > to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > > ========================================================= > Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail > message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should > read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --00151747be585d2f2a04c1bae648 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This incident has intrigued me. I looked up Mrs. Sterzing on an online directory, and found the phone number and email address you received this letter from can be backtracked to that name.

http://www.123pages.fr/b/sterzing-eva-boulogne-billancourt

That being said, there are many ways to hide behind a proxy server and pretend to be one email address while the data is diverted to another. I retain my original position - the email was badly written, should not have been the means of initial contact, and should be considered highly suspect. I would recommend contacting Mrs. Sterzing independently of the email, and find out if she is in fact aware of this message. Best of luck

Andrew Grilz

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:49 AM, randy Little <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
LOL you have his email.  I suggest you give it and all following emails to the FBI.   Its not legit.  When the lawyer shows up at your door(not going to happen) then its legit.  This is about as un-legit as it gets and this email address should be IMMEDIATELY given to the FBI FRAUD Dept.
He is right though it is serious and the FBI will agree and pursue this.

On Jun 5, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Dominique Bouchard wrote:

> The email is absolutely legitimate and should not be taken lightly.
>
> The email address belongs to a lawyer who has now successfully prosecuted cases on behalf of a family who are seeking to claim their rights to works of art (or their value) which were liquidated after having been stolen by Nazis. There is a very long paper trail of similar cases brought (successfully) by this lawyer. The family is very well informed and have very specific and detailed information about the pieces in question.
>
> Other museums which have encountered a claim originating from this case were contacted initially by fax and the vast majority of correspondence was carried out by email.
>
> I wish your museum luck in dealing with this. I (humbly) suggest that you consider strongly your choice to forward any related future correspondence to an email list like Museum-L as the family and/or lawyer in question might not feel that the resulting discussion fell within the bounds of professional discretion, especially given the number of responders who have asserted that they are running a scam and the sensitivity of the issue.
>
> In the rush to gather whether this email is real it may have been all too easy to forget that the family have been the victim of a very serious crime in which they are among many, many people who lost their lives and livelihoods.
>
> Best wishes,
> Dominique Bouchard
>
> --
> Dr Dominique Bouchard
> Hunt Museum Curator of Education and Outreach
>
> Address: Hunt Museum, Rutland Street, Limerick, Ireland
> Tel: +353 (061) 312 833
> Email:[log in to unmask]
>
> www.huntmuseum.com
>
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>
> Find us on Facebook, Twitter and Foursquare!
>
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--00151747be585d2f2a04c1bae648-- ========================================================================Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:02:53 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Deb Fuller <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Regis University Master of Non-Profit Management In-Reply-To: <000001cd4266$3e6c6140$bb4523c0$@edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Katherine Kuhl <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Does anyone have any experience with this school/program or have opinions > on it?  I currently hold an M.A. in Public History, but finding that it > doesn’t provide me with any real marketable skills, I’m thinking of > returning to school (after several years in the field) for a more useful > degree.  Any and all opinions would be appreciated! Like I've told others before on this list, in today's economy and going into the museum field, more student loan debt is a very, very bad thing. You already know what the salaries are like and what the job requirements are. I'd suggest getting those missing skills some other way. Certificate programs are a much cheaper alternative to another degree, especially when you already have a masters degree. Most likely you will need some project management skills and there are plenty of project management certificates out there, some of which are focused on non-profits. Certificate programs also allow you to work while taking classes so you don't rack up mounds of debt. I'd also suggest taking a break from the museum world for a bit and getting some job experience in the non-profit or corporate world. Not all for-profit companies are horrible and there are many which work with non-profits and museums. Working in a different environment can get you valuable job skills and many companies will help pay for training for a program management certificate program. You can continue to work or volunteer for museums part-time to keep up with the field and network. After a few years, you will have gained valuable job experience, which quite frankly is worth far more than another degree, don't have to worry about more student loan debt from another degree, and will be in a good position to go back into the museum world. Hope this helps! Deb Fuller ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:04:59 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Guy Hermann <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> While I agree that this email reads like a phishing scam, the facts themselves sound legitimate, especially if the soup tureens are actually in your collection. One simple way to check the authenticity of the email is to have your local technolgist look at the full headers for the email. If the servers etc. listed there correspond to the legitimate French servers, and don't actually redirect to or from some other country, there is a good chance that the message is legitimate. Corresponding directly with Ms. Sterzing without replying to the email, might be the best course. Let us know how it works out. ------------------------------------------- Guy Hermann, Principal Museum Insights 860-245-1323 http://www.museuminsights.com On Jun 5, 2012, at 10:40 AM, Dominique Bouchard wrote: > The email is absolutely legitimate and should not be taken lightly. > > The email address belongs to a lawyer who has now successfully prosecuted cases on behalf of a family who are seeking to claim their rights to works of art (or their value) which were liquidated after having been stolen by Nazis. There is a very long paper trail of similar cases brought (successfully) by this lawyer. The family is very well informed and have very specific and detailed information about the pieces in question. > > Other museums which have encountered a claim originating from this case were contacted initially by fax and the vast majority of correspondence was carried out by email. > > I wish your museum luck in dealing with this. I (humbly) suggest that you consider strongly your choice to forward any related future correspondence to an email list like Museum-L as the family and/or lawyer in question might not feel that the resulting discussion fell within the bounds of professional discretion, especially given the number of responders who have asserted that they are running a scam and the sensitivity of the issue. > > In the rush to gather whether this email is real it may have been all too easy to forget that the family have been the victim of a very serious crime in which they are among many, many people who lost their lives and livelihoods. > > Best wishes, > Dominique Bouchard > > -- > Dr Dominique Bouchard > Hunt Museum Curator of Education and Outreach > > Address: Hunt Museum, Rutland Street, Limerick, Ireland > Tel: +353 (061) 312 833 > Email:[log in to unmask] > > www.huntmuseum.com > > The Hunt Museum’s Gift Shop showcases a wide range of local and international crafts and gifts. Every purchase made supports the museum’s valuable work. > > Find us on Facebook, Twitter and Foursquare! > > ========================================================= > Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:08:17 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Nick Partridge <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundaryô6d044468db3e9b9a04c1bb05c5 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --f46d044468db3e9b9a04c1bb05c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dr Bouchard, It seems we've already established that the name belongs to a real lawyer, but this is clearly not a legitimate email. Would a lawyer who has had multiple deals with the Smithsonian Institution have no idea how to spell it? I believe we've established that the lawyer in question speaks impeccable English. Also: why would she change the phone number and email address from the one listed for her firm? And ask that the matter be settled for cash as quickly and quietly as possible? This is clearly someone who's done a bit of research and is trying to trade on someone's reputation. I think the best way to clear this up would be to contact the lawyer directly at her email or phone number listed on her website, not the one on the email. Let her know that someone has stolen her identity. Thanks, Nick On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Andy Grilz <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > This incident has intrigued me. I looked up Mrs. Sterzing on an online > directory, and found the phone number and email address you received this > letter from can be backtracked to that name. > > http://www.123pages.fr/b/sterzing-eva-boulogne-billancourt > > That being said, there are many ways to hide behind a proxy server and > pretend to be one email address while the data is diverted to another. I > retain my original position - the email was badly written, should not have > been the means of initial contact, and should be considered highly suspect. > I would recommend contacting Mrs. Sterzing independently of the email, and > find out if she is in fact aware of this message. Best of luck > > Andrew Grilz > > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:49 AM, randy Little <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > >> LOL you have his email. I suggest you give it and all following emails >> to the FBI. Its not legit. When the lawyer shows up at your door(not >> going to happen) then its legit. This is about as un-legit as it gets and >> this email address should be IMMEDIATELY given to the FBI FRAUD Dept. >> He is right though it is serious and the FBI will agree and pursue this. >> >> On Jun 5, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Dominique Bouchard wrote: >> >> > The email is absolutely legitimate and should not be taken lightly. >> > >> > The email address belongs to a lawyer who has now successfully >> prosecuted cases on behalf of a family who are seeking to claim their >> rights to works of art (or their value) which were liquidated after having >> been stolen by Nazis. There is a very long paper trail of similar cases >> brought (successfully) by this lawyer. The family is very well informed and >> have very specific and detailed information about the pieces in question. >> > >> > Other museums which have encountered a claim originating from this case >> were contacted initially by fax and the vast majority of correspondence was >> carried out by email. >> > >> > I wish your museum luck in dealing with this. I (humbly) suggest that >> you consider strongly your choice to forward any related future >> correspondence to an email list like Museum-L as the family and/or lawyer >> in question might not feel that the resulting discussion fell within the >> bounds of professional discretion, especially given the number of >> responders who have asserted that they are running a scam and the >> sensitivity of the issue. >> > >> > In the rush to gather whether this email is real it may have been all >> too easy to forget that the family have been the victim of a very serious >> crime in which they are among many, many people who lost their lives and >> livelihoods. >> > >> > Best wishes, >> > Dominique Bouchard >> > >> > -- >> > Dr Dominique Bouchard >> > Hunt Museum Curator of Education and Outreach >> > >> > Address: Hunt Museum, Rutland Street, Limerick, Ireland >> > Tel: +353 (061) 312 833 >> > Email:[log in to unmask] >> > >> > www.huntmuseum.com >> > >> > The Hunt Museum’s Gift Shop showcases a wide range of local and >> international crafts and gifts. Every purchase made supports the museum’s >> valuable work. >> > >> > Find us on Facebook, Twitter and Foursquare! >> > >> > ========================================================= >> > Important Subscriber Information: >> > >> > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at >> http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed >> information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail >> message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should >> read "help" (without the quotes). >> > >> > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message >> to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read >> "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). >> >> ========================================================= >> Important Subscriber Information: >> >> The Museum-L FAQ file is located at >> http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed >> information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail >> message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should >> read "help" (without the quotes). >> >> If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to >> [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read >> "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). >> > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --f46d044468db3e9b9a04c1bb05c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dr Bouchard, 
It seems we've already established that the name belongs to a real lawyer, but this is clearly not a legitimate email. Would a lawyer who has had multiple deals with the Smithsonian Institution have no idea how to spell it? I believe we've established that the lawyer in question speaks impeccable English. Also: why would she change the phone number and email address from the one listed for her firm? And ask that the matter be settled for cash as quickly and quietly as possible? This is clearly someone who's done a bit of research and is trying to trade on someone's reputation. I think the best way to clear this up would be to contact the lawyer directly at her email or phone number listed on her website, not the one on the email. Let her know that someone has stolen her identity. 
Thanks, 
Nick 

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Andy Grilz <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
This incident has intrigued me. I looked up Mrs. Sterzing on an online directory, and found the phone number and email address you received this letter from can be backtracked to that name.

http://www.123pages.fr/b/sterzing-eva-boulogne-billancourt

That being said, there are many ways to hide behind a proxy server and pretend to be one email address while the data is diverted to another. I retain my original position - the email was badly written, should not have been the means of initial contact, and should be considered highly suspect. I would recommend contacting Mrs. Sterzing independently of the email, and find out if she is in fact aware of this message. Best of luck

Andrew Grilz


On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:49 AM, randy Little <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
LOL you have his email.  I suggest you give it and all following emails to the FBI.   Its not legit.  When the lawyer shows up at your door(not going to happen) then its legit.  This is about as un-legit as it gets and this email address should be IMMEDIATELY given to the FBI FRAUD Dept.
He is right though it is serious and the FBI will agree and pursue this.

On Jun 5, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Dominique Bouchard wrote:

> The email is absolutely legitimate and should not be taken lightly.
>
> The email address belongs to a lawyer who has now successfully prosecuted cases on behalf of a family who are seeking to claim their rights to works of art (or their value) which were liquidated after having been stolen by Nazis. There is a very long paper trail of similar cases brought (successfully) by this lawyer. The family is very well informed and have very specific and detailed information about the pieces in question.
>
> Other museums which have encountered a claim originating from this case were contacted initially by fax and the vast majority of correspondence was carried out by email.
>
> I wish your museum luck in dealing with this. I (humbly) suggest that you consider strongly your choice to forward any related future correspondence to an email list like Museum-L as the family and/or lawyer in question might not feel that the resulting discussion fell within the bounds of professional discretion, especially given the number of responders who have asserted that they are running a scam and the sensitivity of the issue.
>
> In the rush to gather whether this email is real it may have been all too easy to forget that the family have been the victim of a very serious crime in which they are among many, many people who lost their lives and livelihoods.
>
> Best wishes,
> Dominique Bouchard
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Phyllis Davis Executive Director Amelia Island Museum of History 233 S. 3rd Street, Fernandina Beach, FL 32034 904-261-7378, x. 101 www.ameliamuseum.org -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Scott Forosisky Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 10:32 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? Agreed. Put that email directly in the 'delete' folder. Scott Forosisky Membership Services Coordinator Fort Worth Museum of Science and History 1600 Gendy St Fort Worth, TX  76107 817-255-9404 -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ruth Taylor Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 5:25 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? Of course it is not legit! Ruth S. Taylor Executive Director Newport Historical Society www.newporthistorical.org 401-846-0813 ________________________________ From: Museum discussion list on behalf of Beth Parker Miller Sent: Mon 6/4/2012 4:16 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? We have recently received the following email. We are investigating its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such an email as well. Thank you. Beth Parker Miller Registrar Winterthur Museum [log in to unmask] 302-888-4988 From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM To: Linda Eaton Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781 Dear Mrs.Eaton, May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie. These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am working. I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at slender prices. I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can consult it. My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be evaluated by a neutral expert. Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest convenience. As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due forme" in a few days. Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible, With best regards Eva STERZING Avocat à la Cour Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine 92100 Boulogne Billancourt Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20 Fax : 01.77.87.70.24 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 08:19:58 -0700 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: randy Little <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Censorship or Just Business? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_6CEF9BC8-BF3A-4668-B09C-DDF0495617DA" Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --Apple-Mail=_6CEF9BC8-BF3A-4668-B09C-DDF0495617DA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 The property owner has every right to censor what is on THEIR property. This is not a government building or a public building so 1st amendment is straight out the window. On Jun 5, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Misschf wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm a grad student in the Museum Studies program at the University of Oklahoma. I've been volunteering with a small Tulsa museum that focuses on the art deco era. The museum is housed (hosted may be a better term) in a historic downtown building. The property owners have provided the museum access to several large display windows in the lobby as well as a good-sized space for the museum itself at an extremely discounted rate. > > Yesterday, the museum owner received an e-mail from the property owners with concerns about displaying this image in the lobby: > > http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4610/skyport5x7cardwebwater.jpg > > The property owners worry that the image is "a little too racy for some of the tours that go through the lobby." > > I'm sure there will be further discussion regarding compromises, it is not clear whether the image would be acceptable inside the museum room rather than in a lobby window display or if it would be okay to cover the offending parts in the display, but as a student I was curious to see what your more knowledgeable take on the situation would be. This doesn't seem to fit into the traditional censorship scenarios because of the interesting dynamic between the museum and the property. > > Is this a situation where the museum should stand up for artistic integrity, or should they be more concerned with biting the hand that feeds them? > > Thanks for your time, > Heather Hollingsworth > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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On Jun 5, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Misschf wrote:

Hello all,

I'm a grad student in the Museum Studies program at the University of Oklahoma. I've been volunteering with a small Tulsa museum that focuses on the art deco era. The museum is housed (hosted may be a better term) in a historic downtown building. The property owners have provided the museum access to several large display windows in the lobby as well as a good-sized space for the museum itself at an extremely discounted rate.

Yesterday, the museum owner received an e-mail from the property owners with concerns about displaying this image in the lobby:

http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4610/skyport5x7cardwebwater.jpg

The property owners worry that the image is "a little too racy for some of the tours that go through the lobby."

I'm sure there will be further discussion regarding compromises, it is not clear whether the image would be acceptable inside the museum room rather than in a lobby window display or if it would be okay to cover the offending parts in the display, but as a student I was curious to see what your more knowledgeable take on the situation would be. This doesn't seem to fit into the traditional censorship scenarios because of the interesting dynamic between the museum and the property.

Is this a situation where the museum should stand up for artistic integrity, or should they be more concerned with biting the hand that feeds them?

Thanks for your time,
Heather Hollingsworth


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In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundaryè9a8ff256667cb24c04c1bb9283 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --e89a8ff256667cb24c04c1bb9283 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm going to have to disagree with you, David. You have to draw a line somewhere, and I think it's reasonable to expect an experienced lawyer to be able to spell the names of the organizations she deals with on a regular basis. On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:34 AM, David E. Haberstich <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > ** > Knowing how to spell Smithsonian Institution is no criterion of legitimacy > one way or the other. People who should know better get it wrong half the > time, believe me. They can look right at our letterhead on official > stationery and screw it up in their reply, including lawyers. > > David Haberstich > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > ------------------------------ > *From: * Nick Partridge <[log in to unmask]> > *Sender: * Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> > *Date: *Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:08:17 -0400 > *To: *<[log in to unmask]> > *ReplyTo: * Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> > *Subject: *Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? > > Dr Bouchard, > It seems we've already established that the name belongs to a real lawyer, > but this is clearly not a legitimate email. Would a lawyer who has had > multiple deals with the Smithsonian Institution have no idea how to spell > it? I believe we've established that the lawyer in question speaks > impeccable English. Also: why would she change the phone number and email > address from the one listed for her firm? And ask that the matter be > settled for cash as quickly and quietly as possible? This is clearly > someone who's done a bit of research and is trying to trade on someone's > reputation. I think the best way to clear this up would be to contact the > lawyer directly at her email or phone number listed on her website, not the > one on the email. Let her know that someone has stolen her identity. > Thanks, > Nick > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Andy Grilz <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> This incident has intrigued me. I looked up Mrs. Sterzing on an online >> directory, and found the phone number and email address you received this >> letter from can be backtracked to that name. >> >> http://www.123pages.fr/b/sterzing-eva-boulogne-billancourt >> >> That being said, there are many ways to hide behind a proxy server and >> pretend to be one email address while the data is diverted to another. I >> retain my original position - the email was badly written, should not have >> been the means of initial contact, and should be considered highly suspect. >> I would recommend contacting Mrs. Sterzing independently of the email, and >> find out if she is in fact aware of this message. Best of luck >> >> Andrew Grilz >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:49 AM, randy Little <[log in to unmask]>wrote: >> >>> LOL you have his email. I suggest you give it and all following emails >>> to the FBI. Its not legit. When the lawyer shows up at your door(not >>> going to happen) then its legit. This is about as un-legit as it gets and >>> this email address should be IMMEDIATELY given to the FBI FRAUD Dept. >>> He is right though it is serious and the FBI will agree and pursue this. >>> >>> On Jun 5, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Dominique Bouchard wrote: >>> >>> > The email is absolutely legitimate and should not be taken lightly. >>> > >>> > The email address belongs to a lawyer who has now successfully >>> prosecuted cases on behalf of a family who are seeking to claim their >>> rights to works of art (or their value) which were liquidated after having >>> been stolen by Nazis. There is a very long paper trail of similar cases >>> brought (successfully) by this lawyer. The family is very well informed and >>> have very specific and detailed information about the pieces in question. >>> > >>> > Other museums which have encountered a claim originating from this >>> case were contacted initially by fax and the vast majority of >>> correspondence was carried out by email. >>> > >>> > I wish your museum luck in dealing with this. I (humbly) suggest that >>> you consider strongly your choice to forward any related future >>> correspondence to an email list like Museum-L as the family and/or lawyer >>> in question might not feel that the resulting discussion fell within the >>> bounds of professional discretion, especially given the number of >>> responders who have asserted that they are running a scam and the >>> sensitivity of the issue. >>> > >>> > In the rush to gather whether this email is real it may have been all >>> too easy to forget that the family have been the victim of a very serious >>> crime in which they are among many, many people who lost their lives and >>> livelihoods. >>> > >>> > Best wishes, >>> > Dominique Bouchard >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Dr Dominique Bouchard >>> > Hunt Museum Curator of Education and Outreach >>> > >>> > Address: Hunt Museum, Rutland Street, Limerick, Ireland >>> > Tel: +353 (061) 312 833 >>> > Email:[log in to unmask] >>> > >>> > www.huntmuseum.com >>> > >>> > The Hunt Museum’s Gift Shop showcases a wide range of local and >>> international crafts and gifts. 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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --e89a8ff256667cb24c04c1bb9283 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm going to have to disagree with you, David. You have to draw a line somewhere, and I think it's reasonable to expect an experienced lawyer to be able to spell the names of the organizations she deals with on a regular basis. 

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:34 AM, David E. Haberstich <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Knowing how to spell Smithsonian Institution is no criterion of legitimacy one way or the other. People who should know better get it wrong half the time, believe me. They can look right at our letterhead on official stationery and screw it up in their reply, including lawyers.

David Haberstich
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From: Nick Partridge <[log in to unmask]>
Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:08:17 -0400
ReplyTo: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit?

Dr Bouchard, 
It seems we've already established that the name belongs to a real lawyer, but this is clearly not a legitimate email. Would a lawyer who has had multiple deals with the Smithsonian Institution have no idea how to spell it? I believe we've established that the lawyer in question speaks impeccable English. Also: why would she change the phone number and email address from the one listed for her firm? And ask that the matter be settled for cash as quickly and quietly as possible? This is clearly someone who's done a bit of research and is trying to trade on someone's reputation. I think the best way to clear this up would be to contact the lawyer directly at her email or phone number listed on her website, not the one on the email. Let her know that someone has stolen her identity. 
Thanks, 
Nick 

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Andy Grilz <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
This incident has intrigued me. I looked up Mrs. Sterzing on an online directory, and found the phone number and email address you received this letter from can be backtracked to that name.

http://www.123pages.fr/b/sterzing-eva-boulogne-billancourt

That being said, there are many ways to hide behind a proxy server and pretend to be one email address while the data is diverted to another. I retain my original position - the email was badly written, should not have been the means of initial contact, and should be considered highly suspect. I would recommend contacting Mrs. Sterzing independently of the email, and find out if she is in fact aware of this message. Best of luck

Andrew Grilz


On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:49 AM, randy Little <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
LOL you have his email.  I suggest you give it and all following emails to the FBI.   Its not legit.  When the lawyer shows up at your door(not going to happen) then its legit.  This is about as un-legit as it gets and this email address should be IMMEDIATELY given to the FBI FRAUD Dept.
He is right though it is serious and the FBI will agree and pursue this.

On Jun 5, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Dominique Bouchard wrote:

> The email is absolutely legitimate and should not be taken lightly.
>
> The email address belongs to a lawyer who has now successfully prosecuted cases on behalf of a family who are seeking to claim their rights to works of art (or their value) which were liquidated after having been stolen by Nazis. There is a very long paper trail of similar cases brought (successfully) by this lawyer. The family is very well informed and have very specific and detailed information about the pieces in question.
>
> Other museums which have encountered a claim originating from this case were contacted initially by fax and the vast majority of correspondence was carried out by email.
>
> I wish your museum luck in dealing with this. I (humbly) suggest that you consider strongly your choice to forward any related future correspondence to an email list like Museum-L as the family and/or lawyer in question might not feel that the resulting discussion fell within the bounds of professional discretion, especially given the number of responders who have asserted that they are running a scam and the sensitivity of the issue.
>
> In the rush to gather whether this email is real it may have been all too easy to forget that the family have been the victim of a very serious crime in which they are among many, many people who lost their lives and livelihoods.
>
> Best wishes,
> Dominique Bouchard
>
> --
> Dr Dominique Bouchard
> Hunt Museum Curator of Education and Outreach
>
> Address: Hunt Museum, Rutland Street, Limerick, Ireland
> Tel: +353 (061) 312 833
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>
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>
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>
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>
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Our museum is receiving a transfer from an art museum across the street. It consist of a very large dollhouse with over 1200 furnishings. I need to find a way to transport the furnishings, inexpensively, and store them for about 2 months until an exhibit space is ready for them. The transportation will consist of driving around the block, so we don't need anything too heavy duty and it doesn't have to be archival. We can't afford archival materials for the project and I wouldn't have the storage space to store the supplies once the house is up anyway. I don't want to have to spend a great deal of money on other supplies I won't be able to use or will have to throw out because of lack of storage space. I am considering using banker boxes with homemade tray inserts which are then padded with polyester batting. The boxes would be reused by our administration, the inserts would get tossed and the batting could be stored until I need it to pad out hangers etc. Does anyone have any other suggestions of relatively low cost and fast solutions? Janean Mollet-Van Beckum Curator of Collections and Exhibits Washington County Historical Society 320 S 5th Avenue West Bend, WI 53095-3333 (262) 335-4678 ext.121 [log in to unmask] ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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Hello Listers,

 

I am looking for suggestions.  Our museum is receiving a transfer from an art museum across the street.  It consist of a very large dollhouse with over 1200 furnishings.  I need to find a way to transport the furnishings, inexpensively, and store them for about 2 months until an exhibit space is ready for them.  The transportation will consist of driving around the block, so we don’t need anything too heavy duty and it doesn’t have to be archival. 

 

We can’t afford archival materials for the project and I wouldn’t have the storage space to store the supplies once the house is up anyway.  I don’t want to have to spend a great deal of money on other supplies I won’t be able to use or will have to throw out because of lack of storage space.  I am considering using banker boxes with homemade tray inserts which are then padded with polyester batting.  The boxes would be reused by our administration, the inserts would get tossed and the batting could be stored until I need it to pad out hangers etc. 

 

Does anyone have any other suggestions of relatively low cost and fast solutions?

 

Janean Mollet-Van Beckum

 

Curator of Collections and Exhibits

Washington County Historical Society

320 S 5th Avenue

West Bend, WI  53095-3333

 

(262) 335-4678  ext.121

 

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TS1MJkE9MTwvYT4NCjwvcD4NCg=--part15843-boundary-807300618-382434164-- ========================================================================Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:40:00 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Maggie Abbott <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Moving Dollhouse Furniture In-Reply-To: <005401cd4334$7a07bbe0$6e1733a0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundaryMessage-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --0016e6de17e73aa81304c1bc4ddc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Janean, I just worked on a very similar dollhouse project and in my case I just wrapped each furnishing individually in bubble wrap or tissue paper and placed them in what archival boxes we had available. If you don't have any archival boxes, I suggest wrapping each item as I did. That way at least they are not in direct contact with the non-archival boxes. I also packed them by room, so all items from one section of the dollhouse were in the same box together. I hope this helps. Good luck with your project. Maggie Abbott On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Janean Mollet-Van Beckum < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hello Listers,**** > > ** ** > > I am looking for suggestions. Our museum is receiving a transfer from an > art museum across the street. It consist of a very large dollhouse with > over 1200 furnishings. I need to find a way to transport the furnishings, > inexpensively, and store them for about 2 months until an exhibit space is > ready for them. The transportation will consist of driving around the > block, so we don’t need anything too heavy duty and it doesn’t have to be > archival. **** > > ** ** > > We can’t afford archival materials for the project and I wouldn’t have the > storage space to store the supplies once the house is up anyway. I don’t > want to have to spend a great deal of money on other supplies I won’t be > able to use or will have to throw out because of lack of storage space. I > am considering using banker boxes with homemade tray inserts which are then > padded with polyester batting. The boxes would be reused by our > administration, the inserts would get tossed and the batting could be > stored until I need it to pad out hangers etc. **** > > ** ** > > Does anyone have any other suggestions of relatively low cost and fast > solutions?**** > > ** ** > > Janean Mollet-Van Beckum**** > > ** ** > > Curator of Collections and Exhibits**** > > Washington County Historical Society**** > > 320 S 5th Avenue**** > > West Bend, WI 53095-3333**** > > **** > > (262) 335-4678 ext.121**** > > **** > > [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>**** > > ** ** > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > -- Maggie Abbott http://www.linkedin.com/pub/maggie-abbott/35/48b/180 http://adventuresofanemp.blogspot.com/ ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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I just worked on a very similar dollhouse project and in my case I just wrapped each furnishing individually in bubble wrap or tissue paper and placed them in what archival boxes we had available. If you don't have any archival boxes, I suggest wrapping each item as I did. That way at least they are not in direct contact with the non-archival boxes. I also packed them by room, so all items from one section of the dollhouse were in the same box together.

I hope this helps. Good luck with your project.

Maggie Abbott

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Janean Mollet-Van Beckum <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hello Listers,

 

I am looking for suggestions.  Our museum is receiving a transfer from an art museum across the street.  It consist of a very large dollhouse with over 1200 furnishings.  I need to find a way to transport the furnishings, inexpensively, and store them for about 2 months until an exhibit space is ready for them.  The transportation will consist of driving around the block, so we don’t need anything too heavy duty and it doesn’t have to be archival. 

 

We can’t afford archival materials for the project and I wouldn’t have the storage space to store the supplies once the house is up anyway.  I don’t want to have to spend a great deal of money on other supplies I won’t be able to use or will have to throw out because of lack of storage space.  I am considering using banker boxes with homemade tray inserts which are then padded with polyester batting.  The boxes would be reused by our administration, the inserts would get tossed and the batting could be stored until I need it to pad out hangers etc. 

 

Does anyone have any other suggestions of relatively low cost and fast solutions?

 

Janean Mollet-Van Beckum

 

Curator of Collections and Exhibits

Washington County Historical Society

320 S 5th Avenue

West Bend, WI  53095-3333

 

(262) 335-4678  ext.121

 

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--0016e6de17e73aa81304c1bc4ddc-- ========================================================================Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 12:41:49 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Elizabeth Walton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Moving Dollhouse Furniture In-Reply-To: <005401cd4334$7a07bbe0$6e1733a0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundaryè9a8ffbaa8fb6ab3204c1bc5349 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --e89a8ffbaa8fb6ab3204c1bc5349 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You can certainly make nice little padded cavities that way, I would recomend covering the batting with a layer of washed tyvek or muslin, or things like tiny chair legs can get caught in the batting and break. On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Janean Mollet-Van Beckum < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hello Listers,**** > > ** ** > > I am looking for suggestions. Our museum is receiving a transfer from an > art museum across the street. It consist of a very large dollhouse with > over 1200 furnishings. I need to find a way to transport the furnishings, > inexpensively, and store them for about 2 months until an exhibit space is > ready for them. The transportation will consist of driving around the > block, so we don’t need anything too heavy duty and it doesn’t have to be > archival. **** > > ** ** > > We can’t afford archival materials for the project and I wouldn’t have the > storage space to store the supplies once the house is up anyway. I don’t > want to have to spend a great deal of money on other supplies I won’t be > able to use or will have to throw out because of lack of storage space. I > am considering using banker boxes with homemade tray inserts which are then > padded with polyester batting. The boxes would be reused by our > administration, the inserts would get tossed and the batting could be > stored until I need it to pad out hangers etc. **** > > ** ** > > Does anyone have any other suggestions of relatively low cost and fast > solutions?**** > > ** ** > > Janean Mollet-Van Beckum**** > > ** ** > > Curator of Collections and Exhibits**** > > Washington County Historical Society**** > > 320 S 5th Avenue**** > > West Bend, WI 53095-3333**** > > **** > > (262) 335-4678 ext.121**** > > **** > > [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>**** > > ** ** > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --e89a8ffbaa8fb6ab3204c1bc5349 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You can certainly make nice little padded cavities that way, I would recomend covering the batting with a layer of washed tyvek or muslin, or things like tiny chair legs can get caught in the batting and break.  

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Janean Mollet-Van Beckum <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Hello Listers,

 

I am looking for suggestions.  Our museum is receiving a transfer from an art museum across the street.  It consist of a very large dollhouse with over 1200 furnishings.  I need to find a way to transport the furnishings, inexpensively, and store them for about 2 months until an exhibit space is ready for them.  The transportation will consist of driving around the block, so we don’t need anything too heavy duty and it doesn’t have to be archival. 

 

We can’t afford archival materials for the project and I wouldn’t have the storage space to store the supplies once the house is up anyway.  I don’t want to have to spend a great deal of money on other supplies I won’t be able to use or will have to throw out because of lack of storage space.  I am considering using banker boxes with homemade tray inserts which are then padded with polyester batting.  The boxes would be reused by our administration, the inserts would get tossed and the batting could be stored until I need it to pad out hangers etc. 

 

Does anyone have any other suggestions of relatively low cost and fast solutions?

 

Janean Mollet-Van Beckum

 

Curator of Collections and Exhibits

Washington County Historical Society

320 S 5th Avenue

West Bend, WI  53095-3333

 

(262) 335-4678  ext.121

 

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--e89a8ffbaa8fb6ab3204c1bc5349-- ========================================================================Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 12:44:20 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Nick Partridge <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundaryàcb4efe326cbfb9d104c1bc5cb0 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --e0cb4efe326cbfb9d104c1bc5cb0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'll have to take your word for it. But if someone scrawls a letter demanding President Lincoln's hat, please do be a little more skeptical. On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 12:19 PM, David E. Haberstich <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > ** > There's nothing to disagree with, Nick. I'm telling you it happens. Take > my word for it. > > > David Haberstich > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > ------------------------------ > *From: * Nick Partridge <[log in to unmask]> > *Sender: * Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> > *Date: *Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:47:47 -0400 > *To: *<[log in to unmask]> > *ReplyTo: * Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> > *Subject: *Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? > > I'm going to have to disagree with you, David. You have to draw a line > somewhere, and I think it's reasonable to expect an experienced lawyer to > be able to spell the names of the organizations she deals with on a regular > basis. > > On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:34 AM, David E. Haberstich <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > >> ** >> Knowing how to spell Smithsonian Institution is no criterion of >> legitimacy one way or the other. People who should know better get it wrong >> half the time, believe me. They can look right at our letterhead on >> official stationery and screw it up in their reply, including lawyers. >> >> David Haberstich >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> ------------------------------ >> *From: * Nick Partridge <[log in to unmask]> >> *Sender: * Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> >> *Date: *Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:08:17 -0400 >> *To: *<[log in to unmask]> >> *ReplyTo: * Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> >> *Subject: *Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? >> >> Dr Bouchard, >> It seems we've already established that the name belongs to a real >> lawyer, but this is clearly not a legitimate email. Would a lawyer who has >> had multiple deals with the Smithsonian Institution have no idea how to >> spell it? I believe we've established that the lawyer in question speaks >> impeccable English. Also: why would she change the phone number and email >> address from the one listed for her firm? And ask that the matter be >> settled for cash as quickly and quietly as possible? This is clearly >> someone who's done a bit of research and is trying to trade on someone's >> reputation. I think the best way to clear this up would be to contact the >> lawyer directly at her email or phone number listed on her website, not the >> one on the email. Let her know that someone has stolen her identity. >> Thanks, >> Nick >> >> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Andy Grilz <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> This incident has intrigued me. I looked up Mrs. Sterzing on an online >>> directory, and found the phone number and email address you received this >>> letter from can be backtracked to that name. >>> >>> http://www.123pages.fr/b/sterzing-eva-boulogne-billancourt >>> >>> That being said, there are many ways to hide behind a proxy server and >>> pretend to be one email address while the data is diverted to another. I >>> retain my original position - the email was badly written, should not have >>> been the means of initial contact, and should be considered highly suspect. >>> I would recommend contacting Mrs. Sterzing independently of the email, and >>> find out if she is in fact aware of this message. Best of luck >>> >>> Andrew Grilz >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:49 AM, randy Little <[log in to unmask]>wrote: >>> >>>> LOL you have his email. I suggest you give it and all following emails >>>> to the FBI. Its not legit. When the lawyer shows up at your door(not >>>> going to happen) then its legit. This is about as un-legit as it gets and >>>> this email address should be IMMEDIATELY given to the FBI FRAUD Dept. >>>> He is right though it is serious and the FBI will agree and pursue this. >>>> >>>> On Jun 5, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Dominique Bouchard wrote: >>>> >>>> > The email is absolutely legitimate and should not be taken lightly. >>>> > >>>> > The email address belongs to a lawyer who has now successfully >>>> prosecuted cases on behalf of a family who are seeking to claim their >>>> rights to works of art (or their value) which were liquidated after having >>>> been stolen by Nazis. There is a very long paper trail of similar cases >>>> brought (successfully) by this lawyer. The family is very well informed and >>>> have very specific and detailed information about the pieces in question. >>>> > >>>> > Other museums which have encountered a claim originating from this >>>> case were contacted initially by fax and the vast majority of >>>> correspondence was carried out by email. >>>> > >>>> > I wish your museum luck in dealing with this. I (humbly) suggest that >>>> you consider strongly your choice to forward any related future >>>> correspondence to an email list like Museum-L as the family and/or lawyer >>>> in question might not feel that the resulting discussion fell within the >>>> bounds of professional discretion, especially given the number of >>>> responders who have asserted that they are running a scam and the >>>> sensitivity of the issue. >>>> > >>>> > In the rush to gather whether this email is real it may have been all >>>> too easy to forget that the family have been the victim of a very serious >>>> crime in which they are among many, many people who lost their lives and >>>> livelihoods. >>>> > >>>> > Best wishes, >>>> > Dominique Bouchard >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Dr Dominique Bouchard >>>> > Hunt Museum Curator of Education and Outreach >>>> > >>>> > Address: Hunt Museum, Rutland Street, Limerick, Ireland >>>> > Tel: +353 (061) 312 833 >>>> > Email:[log in to unmask] >>>> > >>>> > www.huntmuseum.com >>>> > >>>> > The Hunt Museum’s Gift Shop showcases a wide range of local and >>>> international crafts and gifts. 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You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --e0cb4efe326cbfb9d104c1bc5cb0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'll have to take your word for it. But if someone scrawls a letter demanding President Lincoln's hat, please do be a little more skeptical. 

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 12:19 PM, David E. Haberstich <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
There's nothing to disagree with, Nick. I'm telling you it happens. Take my word for it.


David Haberstich
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From: Nick Partridge <[log in to unmask]>
Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:47:47 -0400
ReplyTo: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit?

I'm going to have to disagree with you, David. You have to draw a line somewhere, and I think it's reasonable to expect an experienced lawyer to be able to spell the names of the organizations she deals with on a regular basis. 

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:34 AM, David E. Haberstich <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Knowing how to spell Smithsonian Institution is no criterion of legitimacy one way or the other. People who should know better get it wrong half the time, believe me. They can look right at our letterhead on official stationery and screw it up in their reply, including lawyers.

David Haberstich
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

From: Nick Partridge <[log in to unmask]>
Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 11:08:17 -0400
ReplyTo: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit?

Dr Bouchard, 
It seems we've already established that the name belongs to a real lawyer, but this is clearly not a legitimate email. Would a lawyer who has had multiple deals with the Smithsonian Institution have no idea how to spell it? I believe we've established that the lawyer in question speaks impeccable English. Also: why would she change the phone number and email address from the one listed for her firm? And ask that the matter be settled for cash as quickly and quietly as possible? This is clearly someone who's done a bit of research and is trying to trade on someone's reputation. I think the best way to clear this up would be to contact the lawyer directly at her email or phone number listed on her website, not the one on the email. Let her know that someone has stolen her identity. 
Thanks, 
Nick 

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Andy Grilz <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
This incident has intrigued me. I looked up Mrs. Sterzing on an online directory, and found the phone number and email address you received this letter from can be backtracked to that name.

http://www.123pages.fr/b/sterzing-eva-boulogne-billancourt

That being said, there are many ways to hide behind a proxy server and pretend to be one email address while the data is diverted to another. I retain my original position - the email was badly written, should not have been the means of initial contact, and should be considered highly suspect. I would recommend contacting Mrs. Sterzing independently of the email, and find out if she is in fact aware of this message. Best of luck

Andrew Grilz


On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 10:49 AM, randy Little <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
LOL you have his email.  I suggest you give it and all following emails to the FBI.   Its not legit.  When the lawyer shows up at your door(not going to happen) then its legit.  This is about as un-legit as it gets and this email address should be IMMEDIATELY given to the FBI FRAUD Dept.
He is right though it is serious and the FBI will agree and pursue this.

On Jun 5, 2012, at 7:40 AM, Dominique Bouchard wrote:

> The email is absolutely legitimate and should not be taken lightly.
>
> The email address belongs to a lawyer who has now successfully prosecuted cases on behalf of a family who are seeking to claim their rights to works of art (or their value) which were liquidated after having been stolen by Nazis. There is a very long paper trail of similar cases brought (successfully) by this lawyer. The family is very well informed and have very specific and detailed information about the pieces in question.
>
> Other museums which have encountered a claim originating from this case were contacted initially by fax and the vast majority of correspondence was carried out by email.
>
> I wish your museum luck in dealing with this. I (humbly) suggest that you consider strongly your choice to forward any related future correspondence to an email list like Museum-L as the family and/or lawyer in question might not feel that the resulting discussion fell within the bounds of professional discretion, especially given the number of responders who have asserted that they are running a scam and the sensitivity of the issue.
>
> In the rush to gather whether this email is real it may have been all too easy to forget that the family have been the victim of a very serious crime in which they are among many, many people who lost their lives and livelihoods.
>
> Best wishes,
> Dominique Bouchard
>
> --
> Dr Dominique Bouchard
> Hunt Museum Curator of Education and Outreach
>
> Address: Hunt Museum, Rutland Street, Limerick, Ireland
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--e0cb4efe326cbfb9d104c1bc5cb0-- ========================================================================Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 17:49:21 +0100 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Alexandra Balcazar <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: collecting digital art In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary7d7b15b169ea39ee04c1bc6f35 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --047d7b15b169ea39ee04c1bc6f35 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Jess, I am also quite curious about this issue, as I am in the beginning stages of writing my MA dissertation on the collecting, conserving and commissioning of digital art, particularly the maintenance of hardware or the choice to collect just the software. I would be very interested in hearing about how different institutions have approached this issue. I'm also interested in hearing from anyone whose museum has collected digital art and which department has been responsible for collecting it. By the way, this is my first post to the list, to which I've subscribed for several years now as a bit of a lurker :) Thank you in advance for any insight! Alexandra Balcazar Art History and Museum Curating MA student University of Sussex On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Marten, Jessica <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > Have any museums made public their guidelines for collecting > digitally-created art? In addition to a practical guide, I would also be > interested in a philosophical discussion of the topic. Any suggestions?** > ** > > ** ** > > Many thanks for your input!**** > > Jess Marten**** > > ** ** > > Jessica Marten**** > > Curator of American Art**** > > Memorial Art Gallery**** > > 500 University Ave.**** > > Rochester, NY 14609**** > > (P) 585.276.8980**** > > (F) 585.473.6266**** > > ** ** > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --047d7b15b169ea39ee04c1bc6f35 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jess,
I am also quite curious about this issue, as I am in the beginning stages of writing my MA dissertation on the collecting, conserving and commissioning of digital art, particularly the maintenance of hardware or the choice to collect just the software. I would be very interested in hearing about how different institutions have approached this issue. I'm also interested in hearing from anyone whose museum has collected digital art and which department has been responsible for collecting it.

By the way, this is my first post to the list, to which I've subscribed for several years now as a bit of a lurker :) Thank you in advance for any insight!

Alexandra Balcazar
Art History and Museum Curating MA student
University of Sussex

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 7:29 PM, Marten, Jessica <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Have any museums made public their guidelines for collecting digitally-created art?  In addition to a practical guide, I would also be interested in a philosophical discussion of the topic.  Any suggestions?

 

Many thanks for your input!

Jess Marten

 

Jessica Marten

Curator of American Art

Memorial Art Gallery

500 University Ave.

Rochester, NY  14609

(P) 585.276.8980

(F) 585.473.6266

 



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--047d7b15b169ea39ee04c1bc6f35-- ========================================================================Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 12:37:48 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Miller, Marcia" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Moving Dollhouse Furniture In-Reply-To: <005401cd4334$7a07bbe0$6e1733a0$@com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_reb-r79D83BA0-t4FCE35DE" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> This is a multi-part MIME message. --=_reb-r79D83BA0-t4FCE35DE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago has a very famous dollhouse - perhaps they could be of assistance. ________________________________ From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Janean Mollet-Van Beckum Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 12:02 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Moving Dollhouse Furniture Hello Listers, I am looking for suggestions. Our museum is receiving a transfer from an art museum across the street. It consist of a very large dollhouse with over 1200 furnishings. I need to find a way to transport the furnishings, inexpensively, and store them for about 2 months until an exhibit space is ready for them. The transportation will consist of driving around the block, so we don't need anything too heavy duty and it doesn't have to be archival. We can't afford archival materials for the project and I wouldn't have the storage space to store the supplies once the house is up anyway. I don't want to have to spend a great deal of money on other supplies I won't be able to use or will have to throw out because of lack of storage space. I am considering using banker boxes with homemade tray inserts which are then padded with polyester batting. The boxes would be reused by our administration, the inserts would get tossed and the batting could be stored until I need it to pad out hangers etc. Does anyone have any other suggestions of relatively low cost and fast solutions? Janean Mollet-Van Beckum Curator of Collections and Exhibits Washington County Historical Society 320 S 5th Avenue West Bend, WI 53095-3333 (262) 335-4678 ext.121 [log in to unmask] ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 This communication (including any attachments) is intended for the use of the intended recipient(s) only and may contain information that is confidential, privileged or legally protected. Any unauthorized use or dissemination of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by return e-mail message and delete all copies of the original communication. Thank you for your cooperation. ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --=_reb-r79D83BA0-t4FCE35DE Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago has a very famous dollhouse - perhaps they could be of assistance.


From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Janean Mollet-Van Beckum
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Hello Listers,

 

I am looking for suggestions.  Our museum is receiving a transfer from an art museum across the street.  It consist of a very large dollhouse with over 1200 furnishings.  I need to find a way to transport the furnishings, inexpensively, and store them for about 2 months until an exhibit space is ready for them.  The transportation will consist of driving around the block, so we don’t need anything too heavy duty and it doesn’t have to be archival. 

 

We can’t afford archival materials for the project and I wouldn’t have the storage space to store the supplies once the house is up anyway.  I don’t want to have to spend a great deal of money on other supplies I won’t be able to use or will have to throw out because of lack of storage space.  I am considering using banker boxes with homemade tray inserts which are then padded with polyester batting.  The boxes would be reused by our administration, the inserts would get tossed and the batting could be stored until I need it to pad out hangers etc. 

 

Does anyone have any other suggestions of relatively low cost and fast solutions?

 

Janean Mollet-Van Beckum

 

Curator of Collections and Exhibits

Washington County Historical Society

320 S 5th Avenue

West Bend, WI  53095-3333

 

(262) 335-4678  ext.121

 

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The only way to ensure that the museum will have autonomy over its content in this situation is to have the limitations spelled out in the contract. Depending on your state of residence renters rights vary when not specified in a contract. Get it in writing every time should be the rule that guides you. --- Suzanne Reed On Tue, 5 Jun 2012 08:19:58 -0700, randy Little wrote: > The property owner has every right to censor what is on THEIR > property. This is not a government building or a public building so > 1st amendment is straight out the window. > > On Jun 5, 2012, at 7:47 AM, Misschf wrote: > >> Hello all, >> >> I'm a grad student in the Museum Studies program at the University >> of Oklahoma. I've been volunteering with a small Tulsa museum that >> focuses on the art deco era. The museum is housed (hosted may be a >> better term) in a historic downtown building. The property owners >> have provided the museum access to several large display windows in >> the lobby as well as a good-sized space for the museum itself at an >> extremely discounted rate. >> >> Yesterday, the museum owner received an e-mail from the property >> owners with concerns about displaying this image in the lobby: >> >> http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4610/skyport5x7cardwebwater.jpg >> [1] >> >> The property owners worry that the image is "a little too racy for >> some of the tours that go through the lobby." >> >> I'm sure there will be further discussion regarding compromises, it >> is not clear whether the image would be acceptable inside the museum >> room rather than in a lobby window display or if it would be okay to >> cover the offending parts in the display, but as a student I was >> curious to see what your more knowledgeable take on the situation >> would be. This doesn't seem to fit into the traditional censorship >> scenarios because of the interesting dynamic between the museum and >> the property. >> >> Is this a situation where the museum should stand up for artistic >> integrity, or should they be more concerned with biting the hand >> that feeds them? >> >> Thanks for your time, >> Heather Hollingsworth >> >> ------------------------- >> >> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 [2] > > ------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 [3] > > Links: > ------ > [1] > http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/4610/skyport5x7cardwebwater.jpg > [2] > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L|+|amp|+|A=1 > [3] http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundaryè9a8fb1ee0e37cfbd04c1bdae70 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --e89a8fb1ee0e37cfbd04c1bdae70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The address listed in the email is not the lawyer's address because it is a restaurant. 72, route de la Reine 92100 Boulogne Billancourt Is the location of "restaurant le K" A reviewer describes them as friendly and effective. It's a casual dining place. And of course, the phone number does not match. C. Verser *From:* Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Dirk Van Tuerenhout *Sent:* Monday, June 04, 2012 4:56 PM *To:* [log in to unmask] *Subject:* Re: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? Marc, “Phishy” indeed. If one searches for the lawyer’s name, this is what shows up (source: http://www.dfj.org/ajfa.html): *Kontaktadresse* *Sekretariat: Mme. Eva Sterzing, Avocate 17, rue de Longchamp F-75116 Paris, France Tel. 0033-1-47.04.67.27 Fax 0033-1-47.04.78.01 Internet: www.ajfa.fr * Notice the differences in email address, mailing address and phone numbers. Regards, Dirk Dirk Van Tuerenhout Curator of anthropology Houston Museum of Natural Science ------------------------------ *From:* Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]<[log in to unmask]>] *On Behalf Of *Marc A Williams *Sent:* Monday, June 04, 2012 3:44 PM *To:* [log in to unmask] *Subject:* Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? Beth, This really smacks of phishing, although it is more cleaver than most by identifying a specific item. 1) It is an email. Legal documents generally are sent by certified mail at the very least. 2) The email is poorly written. The spacing and paragraph breaks are wrong. There are numerous spelling errors. Some of this could be due to translation software, but if so, no one bothered to proof read. If they have settled with numerous other American institutions, one would think they would have a reasonable grasp of the English language. 3) The return email address appears fishy. The domain is wanadoo.fr, not the name of the legal firm. What self-respecting law firm does not have its own domain name? This may be real, but if it were me, I would wait until I heard something official via certified mail. As with any possible phishing attempt, it is best not to respond to the email. Marc Marc A. Williams, President, American Conservation Consortium MS in Art Conservation, Winterthur Museum Program Former Chief Wooden Objects Conservator, Smithsonian Institution Fellow, American Institute for Conservation (AIC) ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Beth Parker Miller <[log in to unmask]> *To:* [log in to unmask] *Sent:* Monday, June 04, 2012 4:09 PM *Subject:* [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? We have recently received the following email. We are investigating its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such an email as well. Thank you. Beth Parker Miller Registrar Winterthur Museum [log in to unmask] 302-888-4988 *From:* SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>] *Sent:* Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM *To:* Linda Eaton *Subject:* Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781 Dear Mrs.Eaton, May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie. These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am working. I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at slender prices. I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can consult it. My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be evaluated by a neutral expert. Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest convenience. As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due forme" in a few days. Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible, With best regards Eva STERZING Avocat à la Cour Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine 92100 Boulogne Billancourt Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20 Fax : 01.77.87.70.24 ------------------------------ To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 ------------------------------ To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 ------------------------------ To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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The address listed in the email is not the lawyer's address because it is a restaurant.

 

72, route de la Reine

92100 Boulogne Billancourt 

Is the location of "restaurant le K"

 

A reviewer describes them as friendly and effective.  It's a casual dining place. 

 

And of course, the phone number does not match.

 

C. Verser

 

 

 

From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dirk Van Tuerenhout
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 4:56 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit?

 

Marc,

 

“Phishy” indeed. If one searches for the lawyer’s name, this is what shows up (source: http://www.dfj.org/ajfa.html):

Kontaktadresse

Sekretariat: Mme. Eva Sterzing, Avocate
17, rue de Longchamp
F-75116 Paris, France
Tel. 0033-1-47.04.67.27
Fax 0033-1-47.04.78.01
Internet: www.ajfa.fr

Notice the differences in email address,  mailing address and phone numbers.

 

Regards,

 

Dirk

 

 

Dirk Van Tuerenhout

Curator of anthropology

Houston Museum of Natural Science

 


From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Marc A Williams
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 3:44 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit?

 

Beth,

 

This really smacks of phishing, although it is more cleaver than most by identifying a specific item.

 

1) It is an email.  Legal documents generally are sent by certified mail at the very least.

 

2) The email is poorly written.  The spacing and paragraph breaks are wrong.  There are numerous spelling errors.  Some of this could be due to translation software, but if so, no one bothered to proof read.  If they have settled with numerous other American institutions, one would think they would have a reasonable grasp of the English language.

 

3) The return email address appears fishy.  The domain is wanadoo.fr, not the name of the legal firm.  What self-respecting law firm does not have its own domain name? 

 

This may be real, but if it were me, I would wait until I heard something official via certified mail.  As with any possible phishing attempt, it is best not to respond to the email.

 

Marc

 

Marc A. Williams, President, American Conservation Consortium
     MS in Art Conservation, Winterthur Museum Program
     Former Chief Wooden Objects Conservator, Smithsonian Institution
     Fellow, American Institute for Conservation (AIC)

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: [log in to unmask]">Beth Parker Miller

Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 4:09 PM

Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Email re: Nazi era claim - legit?

 

We have recently received the following email.  We are investigating its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such an email as well.

Thank you.

Beth Parker Miller

Registrar

Winterthur Museum

302-888-4988

 

From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM
To: Linda Eaton
Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781

 

Dear Mrs.Eaton,

May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie.  

These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am working.  

I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at slender prices.

I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can consult it.

My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be evaluated by a neutral expert.

Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest convenience.

As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due forme" in a few days.

Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible,

With best regards

  

Eva STERZING
Avocat à la Cour

Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company
adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine
92100 Boulogne Billancourt
Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20
Fax : 01.77.87.70.24

 

 


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--e89a8fb1ee0e37cfbd04c1bdae70-- ========================================================================Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 14:10:52 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: David Griffin <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Senior Specialist, Prints, Auction House position available through Thomas & Associates, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01A0_01CD4325.047638C0" Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01A0_01CD4325.047638C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Senior Specialist, Prints, New York For our renowned auction house client, we are seeking a Senior Specialists in Prints. The successful applicant will focus on business-getting with an emphasis on sourcing and bringing in high-value property. Duties include: develop new business contacts and strategic opportunities; manage existing account base and grow new business; write catalogue entries; target new sellers, markets and areas of interest; participate in pre-selling upcoming auctions and telephone bidding with clients during auctions; other duties as required. The ideal candidate will have strong general knowledge of international prints and the print market, a proven sales record with a focus on top tier clients, the ability to perform in a highly competitive market and excellent communications, networking and negotiating skills. Bachelor's degree in Art History or Decorative Arts preferred; or equivalent work experience. Master's degree preferred. Minimum of 8 years paid work experience in related field. Superior client relations skills and the ability to work in a team environment are essential. An excellent opportunity for an energetic and detail-oriented professional. Competitive salary DOE and excellent benefits. Please send resume with detailed cover letter and the contact information for at least 3 references to: [log in to unmask] Geri Thomas Thomas & Associates, Inc. 6 East 39th Street New York, NY 10016 P. 212.779.7059 F. 212.779.7096 www.artstaffing.com About Thomas & Associates, Inc. / artstaffing.com With offices in New York City and Chicago, Thomas & Associates, Inc. is an innovative firm that offers staffing, consulting, and professional development workshops for museums, galleries and arts and culture businesses nationwide and internationally. The company has recently launched its career services division to address the needs of arts and culture professionals everywhere. For employment opportunities and to subscribe to the quarterly newsletter, Art Career News, visit www.artstaffing.com. ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------=_NextPart_000_01A0_01CD4325.047638C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Senior Specialist, Prints, New York

For our renowned auction house client, we are seeking a Senior Specialists in Prints.  The successful applicant will focus on business-getting with an emphasis on sourcing and bringing in high-value property. Duties include: develop new business contacts and strategic opportunities; manage existing account base and grow new business; write catalogue entries; target new sellers, markets and areas of interest; participate in pre-selling upcoming auctions and telephone bidding with clients during auctions; other duties as required. The ideal candidate will have strong general knowledge of international prints and the print market,  a proven sales record with a focus on top tier clients, the ability to perform in a highly competitive market and excellent communications, networking and negotiating skills. Bachelor’s degree in Art History or Decorative Arts preferred; or equivalent work experience. Master’s degree preferred. Minimum of 8 years paid work experience in related field.  Superior client relations skills and the ability to work in a  team environment are essential.  An excellent opportunity for an energetic and detail-oriented professional.  Competitive salary DOE and excellent benefits.  Please send resume with detailed cover letter and the contact information for at least 3 references to: [log in to unmask].

 

Geri Thomas

Thomas & Associates, Inc.

6 East 39th Street

New York, NY 10016

P. 212.779.7059

F. 212.779.7096

www.artstaffing.com

 

About Thomas & Associates, Inc. / artstaffing.com

With offices in New York City and Chicago, Thomas & Associates, Inc.

is an innovative firm that offers staffing, consulting, and professional

development workshops for museums, galleries and arts and culture

businesses nationwide and internationally. The company has recently

launched its career services division to address the needs of arts and

culture professionals everywhere.

 

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Hello List-Servers,

 

Can anyone using the iPod touch for audio tours at their museum recommend a source for compatible protective cases and multi-unit docking stations? We plan to purchase fifteen 4th generation iPod touches that will require special cases to cover the home button, so as to prevent users from accessing software other than the audio tour.

 

Any resources, suggestions, or comments are appreciated. Feel free to answer off list-serv at [log in to unmask]

 

Thank you,

 

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--20cf306f75eedb402e04c1c299f5-- ========================================================================Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 15:49:43 -0700 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Maris Ensing <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Mad Systems Inc Subject: Re: 360 degree photography In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Hi Kathryn, We recently did some work for a client using a Gigapan robotic head - I can recommend it. The software comes with the head. http://www.gigapan.com/cms/shop/store The only issue is depth of field - we used a Canon 5D with an aperture of 45 and it was still an issue to get everything in focus; obviously this depends on the size and shape of the object and how you're doing the photography. A sample is here http://www.gigapan.com/gigapans/d16543dda35c936248d8e5ee5f53c55a - these are 5 second exposures, note that you can see transitions between the images, but it is quite possible to compensate for this. Best Maris -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kathryn Murano Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 3:12 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MUSEUM-L] 360 degree photography We are thinking about purchasing a hardware and software system to do 360 degree or even spherical object photography, and I'm wondering if anyone could recommend a system they have used. We need a system that minimally includes the photo arm, turntable, and software to stitch the images together, and it has to be capable of doing large format objects. At this stage of information gathering we are not limiting ourselves to a particular budget. 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Noon (Eastern time)

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The School of Library and Information Science at Kent State University offers a robust schedule of workshops that will benefit students AND professionals in libraries, museums and other cultural and information organizations.

 

Among the current offerings are:

 

·         DATABASE DESIGN/APPLICATIONS

·         GENEALOGY AND LOCAL HISTORY RESEARCH METHODS

·         TIPS/TRICKS FOR SEARCHING ONLINE DATABASES

·         DESIGNING SUCCESSFUL GRANT PROJECTS

·         WRITING AND DEVELOPING AN EXHIBIT SCRIPT

·         PRACTICAL PUBLIC RELATIONS AND COMMUNICATION TOOLS FOR PUBLIC LIBRARIANS

·         VIDEO GAMES IN THE PUBLIC LIBRARY

·         And more!

 

Follow the link below to join us for this Wednesday Webinar. You’ll find out what’s being offered this summer and fall. Plus, learn how to register and how workshops can help you advance your career or enhance your education.

http://w-slis-stream.slis.kent.edu/KSU/Viewer/?peid=a9d5fcd6c73e4dd2bfedbc6ae3cf80a7

If you do not already have Silverlight on your computer, you may need to download it in order to view the presentation. It's free at http://www.microsoft.com/getsilverlight/Get-Started/Install/Default.aspx/.  

 

During the open house, you may submit questions by clicking on the “word bubble” icon at the bottom of your screen. The presenters will answer your questions  “live” during the session, as time permits.

Presenters: Rhonda Filipan, SLIS academic program coordinator; Don A. Wicks, Ph.D., SLIS interim director; and Lorelei Hoover, current M.L.I.S. student

For more information on SLIS workshops, visit http://www.kent.edu/slis/programs/workshops.cfm.

 

If you’ve missed some of our recent webinars, you’ll find them archived on our website: http://www.kent.edu/slis/programs/wednesday-webinars.cfm.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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--_000_C82D447FD6A06F46BEA4066646DCD7ABF237F1DB3CKENTSMBX01KEN_-- ========================================================================Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2012 18:19:22 -0700 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Kay Voyvodich <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: 360 degree photography In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Hi Kathryn, I work with two companies who develop these kind of hardware/software imaging systems on a per-client basis, and who are both on the leading edge of developing spherical imaging techniques, one in the macro-imaging world and one in the micr-imaging world. They also install and maintain systems for documentation of collections and pieces in museum environments. Both were key presenters at the Fine Conference at CMU sponsored by GIgapan, and specifically focus on these tools. I highly recommend their work. Please contact me and I'll introduce you directly. Best Kay [log in to unmask] On Jun 5, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Maris Ensing wrote: > Hi Kathryn, > > We recently did some work for a client using a Gigapan robotic head - I can > recommend it. The software comes with the head. > http://www.gigapan.com/cms/shop/store > > The only issue is depth of field - we used a Canon 5D with an aperture of 45 > and it was still an issue to get everything in focus; obviously this depends > on the size and shape of the object and how you're doing the photography. > > A sample is here > http://www.gigapan.com/gigapans/d16543dda35c936248d8e5ee5f53c55a - these are > 5 second exposures, note that you can see transitions between the images, > but it is quite possible to compensate for this. > > Best > Maris > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf > Of Kathryn Murano > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 3:12 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [MUSEUM-L] 360 degree photography > > We are thinking about purchasing a hardware and software system to do > 360 degree or even spherical object photography, and I'm wondering if anyone > could recommend a system they have used. We need a system that minimally > includes the photo arm, turntable, and software to stitch the images > together, and it has to be capable of doing large format objects. At this > stage of information gathering we are not limiting ourselves to a particular > budget. > > Thanks in advance, > Kathryn Murano > Registrar > Rochester Museum & Science Center > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message > to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" > (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . 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This internship offers an opportunity for hands-on experience appraising, arranging, and describing a portion of the professional papers of a noted neurologist and medical education administrator. Primary duties: Reporting to the project archivist, the intern will take responsibility for processing one series in the collection. This will include surveying the existing condition, housing, content, and organization of the files; making appraisal decisions; performing any required arrangement and rehousing; describing the materials and their arrangement; noting potentially sensitive materials; and entering information about the files into Archivists' Toolkit. Additional duties: As time allows, the intern may assist the project archivist with additional tasks, such as preservation photocopying, labeling, and rehousing of paper files and photographic materials. Qualifications and requirements: Knowledge of basic archival theory and good writing, research, and organizational skills are required. Applicants must be able to lift up to 40 pounds. Familiarity with Archivists' Toolkit is helpful, but not required. Desired start date: immediate Duration: 120 hours (8 weeks at 15 hours per week; hours worked per week is negotiable) Pay: Hourly wage, $15.50 to $17.50 per hour, depending on experience. To apply: Applicants should email a cover letter, resume, and contact information for two references to the College Librarian, Annie Brogan, at [log in to unmask] About the Library: The Historical Medical Library of the College is one of the world's premier research collections in the history of medicine. The unique holdings of the library include 411 incunables (books printed before 1500), an extensive collection of manuscripts and archives, and a comprehensive collection of 19th and early 20th-century medical journals. Through the Wood Institute for the History of Medicine, the Library's collections are highlighted in lectures, fellowships, and programs. ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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Gordon Castigliano Director of Digital Library Initiatives Institution Type: Nonprofit Location: Pennsylvania, United States Position: Director, Librarian, Other Professional, Research Professional The Director of Digital Library Initiatives conducts the Historical Medical Library’s (HML) participation in the Medical Heritage Library (MHL) and functions as the College’s chief representative in meetings with other libraries, collections managers, or other personnel to advance digitally-relevant projects. The MHL is a consortium of medical special collections libraries with an aim of digitizing early medical texts and making them accessible and searchable via mechanisms in development. The Director also generally functions as an advocate for digital medical history and related topics within the humanities and social sciences. An exempt position reporting to the Director, Mütter Museum/HML, the Director of Digital Library Initiatives also conducts analyses relevant to strategic planning for the HML. For further information about the MHL, see: http://www.medicalheritage.org/ About the Institution:The College of Physicians of Philadelphia, founded in 1787, is the oldest professional medical organization in the country. Throughout its 200 year history, the College has provided a place for both medical professionals and the general public to learn about medicine as both a science and as an art. The College strives to: · Enable individuals, families and communities to take greater responsibility for their health. · Improve the health of the public through service to health professionals. · Enhance appreciation of the heritage of medicine. · Provide information for the development of health policy. The College is home to the Mütter Museum and the Historical Medical Library. For more information, visit the Web at: http://www.collphyphil.org/Site/The_College_of_Physicians_of_Philadelphia.ht ml Qualifications: A graduate degree—doctorate preferred—in a humanities or social science field relevant to the topics embraced by the MHL, or a graduate degree in librarianship from an ALA-accredited institution or information management coupled with an advanced degree in the humanities or social sciences;strategic planning experience involving special collections libraries and electronic library systems; up to three years post-graduate degree experience, or an equivalent combination of education and experience. Essential characteristics include: · Ability to work autonomously and in a team-based environment. · Strong written and oral communication skills and mature judgment. · Ability to build and maintain strong working relationships. · Ability to plan, organize, and monitor multiple projects simultaneously. · Understanding of opportunities and challenges of humanities and social sciences in a digital age. · Highly developed organizational skills, strict attention to details. · Proven ability to respond positively to extreme pressures of time and workload. · Proven ability in public speaking. · Relevant computer skills & systems knowledge. Salary: Negotiable in the mid-$50k range, commensurate with experience and the potential for growth. The College may permit occasional research days in support of a scholarly project. To apply: ELECTRONIC APPLICATIONS ONLY. To apply, send a cover letter, résumé or c.v. 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Discover the value of themes, tangibles, intangibles, and universals in writing exhibit text that visitors really want to read – and remember. Additional resources provided on font size and colors as well as label layout. Logistics: Participants in Scripting the Exhibit work through sections on their own. Materials and resources include online literature, slide lectures and dialog between students and the instructor through online forums. Scripting the Exhibit runs four weeks. To reserve a spot in the course, please pay at http://www.collectioncare.org/tas/tas.html If you have trouble please contact Helen Alten at [log in to unmask] The Instructor: Karin Hostetter is experienced in interpretive writing, program and curriculum development, and staff and volunteer training. As an interpretive writer, Ms. Hostetter has written text for exhibits, wayside exhibits, visitor brochures, and professional magazines. 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Working closely with departmental staff and under the direction of the Director of Preservation Services, the Preservation Specialist will coordinate and conduct preservation needs assessments; summarize findings and recommendations in written reports; facilitate Web-based and in-person educational offerings; update and maintain departmental reference resources and publications; participate in department- and Center-wide projects and initiatives; and represent NEDCC at local, regional, and national professional meetings and conferences. As NEDCC continues to develop its comprehensive consulting, education, and outreach services, the ideal candidate for this position will be able to develop and maintain both physical and digital collections care knowledge and skills. For a full job description and application directions, go to http://nedcc.org/about/news.2012preservationjob.php Donia Conn, Education and Outreach Coordinator Northeast Document Conservation Center Andover, MA 01810 978-470-1010 [log in to unmask] www.nedcc.org ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------_=_NextPart_001_01CD4419.311624DB Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The Northeast Document Conservation Center (NEDCC) seeks a creative, energetic, technology-savvy and client-oriented Preservation Specialist to support NEDCC’s consulting, education, and outreach activities.

Working closely with departmental staff and under the direction of the Director of Preservation Services, the Preservation Specialist will coordinate and conduct preservation needs assessments; summarize findings and recommendations in written reports; facilitate Web-based and in-person educational offerings; update and maintain departmental reference resources and publications; participate in department- and Center-wide projects and initiatives; and represent NEDCC at local, regional, and national professional meetings and conferences.

As NEDCC continues to develop its comprehensive consulting, education, and outreach services, the ideal candidate for this position will be able to develop and maintain both physical and digital collections care knowledge and skills.

For a full job description and application directions, go to http://nedcc.org/about/news.2012preservationjob.php

 

Donia Conn, Education and Outreach Coordinator

Northeast Document Conservation Center

Andover, MA 01810

978-470-1010

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------_=_NextPart_001_01CD4419.311624DB-- ========================================================================Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:34:43 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Shannon Lindridge <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Wow! A lot of comments on this one--not that there shouldn't be. I didn't read through them all, but a thought did come to me. Although email and text messaging is the way a lot of business is conducted these days, and let's remember emails are a great vehicle for fraud and scams, why wouldn't the lawyer send a certified letter via snail mail or actually pick up the phone and make a phone call as the first form of contact?? I would hesitate to take the email seriously as well and would probably trash it. Personally, I have had someone hack into my email and ask all my contacts for money b/c I was stranded in Europe!! --Nope sitting safe at home in the US. So, someone could have hacked into this lawyers account and is sending out fraudulent emails--I guess you could call her, or send a letter. Hope it all works out well and without too much hassle. --Shannon Lindridge, Registar Roberson Museum and Science Center 30 Front Street Binghamton, NY 13903 607-772-0660 ext 207 [log in to unmask] ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:41:23 -0700 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: David Harvey <[log in to unmask]> Subject: National Geographic TV Series: America's Lost Treasures MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary cf30780cd8ed97dc04c1d2f4d1 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --20cf30780cd8ed97dc04c1d2f4d1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Everyone, I am happy to let you know that the National Geographic TV Series: *America's Lost Treasures* that I consulted on will be broadcasting this summer on the National Geographic Channel. The series was hosted in regional museums all across the USA and will feature the museums and some of the museum staff, as well as regional experts - curators, conservators, historians, and appraisers who will assess the family treasures and heirlooms that the local public brings in, and several objects discovered during the series will be designated "America's Lost Treasures" and will be included in a National Geographic traveling exhibition. National Geographic will celebrate July 4th by premiering the series that night at 9pm (check your local listings). The series will continue each Wednesday evening at 9pm on the following dates: *Austin TX - Bob Bullock Texas State History Museum - July 4th* *Milwaukee WI – Milwaukee Public Museum - July 11th* *Los Angeles CA - Los Angeles Museum of Natural History – July 18th* *Wilmington DE - Winterthur Museum and Gardens – July 25th* *Philadelphia PA - The Franklin Institute - Aug 1st * *New Orleans LA - The Cabildo – Aug 8th * *Kansas City MO - Kansas City Union Station – Aug 15th * *Burbank CA - The Autry Museum – Aug 22th* *Savannah GA - The Savannah History Museum - August 29th* *Santa Ana CA - The Bowers Museum – Sept 5th* Cheers! Dave David Harvey Senior Conservator and Museum Consultant Los Angeles CA ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --20cf30780cd8ed97dc04c1d2f4d1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Everyone,

I am happy to let you know that the National Geographic TV Series: America's Lost Treasures that I consulted on will be broadcasting this summer on the National Geographic Channel. The series was hosted in regional museums all across the USA and will feature the museums and some of the museum staff, as well as regional experts - curators, conservators, historians, and appraisers who will assess the family treasures and heirlooms that the local public brings in, and several objects discovered during the series will be designated "America's Lost Treasures" and will be included in a National Geographic traveling exhibition.

National Geographic will celebrate July 4th by premiering the series that night at 9pm (check your local listings). The series will continue each Wednesday evening at 9pm on the following dates:



Austin TX - Bob Bullock Texas State History Museum  - July 4th

Milwaukee  WI – Milwaukee Public Museum - July 11th

Los Angeles CA - Los Angeles Museum of Natural History  – July 18th

Wilmington DE - Winterthur Museum and Gardens – July 25th

Philadelphia PA - The Franklin Institute  - Aug 1st  

New Orleans LA - The Cabildo – Aug 8th

Kansas City MO - Kansas City Union Station – Aug 15th

Burbank CA - The Autry Museum  – Aug 22th

Savannah GA - The Savannah History Museum - August 29th

Santa Ana CA - The Bowers Museum – Sept 5th


Cheers!
Dave

David Harvey
Senior Conservator and Museum Consultant
Los Angeles CA


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--20cf30780cd8ed97dc04c1d2f4d1-- ========================================================================Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 12:19:22 -0700 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Lissa Kramer <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: 360 degree photography In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundaryMessage-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --0015175cd9e8fff0c604c1d2a450 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Does anyone know if there any examples of open source software to support 3-D imaging like this, or if anyone has begun exploring such an option -L. On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Kay Voyvodich <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi Kathryn, > > I work with two companies who develop these kind of hardware/software > imaging systems on a per-client basis, and who are both on the leading edge > of developing spherical imaging techniques, one in the macro-imaging world > and one in the micr-imaging world. They also install and maintain systems > for documentation of collections and pieces in museum environments. > > Both were key presenters at the Fine Conference at CMU sponsored by > GIgapan, and specifically focus on these tools. I highly recommend their > work. Please contact me and I'll introduce you directly. > > Best > Kay > [log in to unmask] > > > On Jun 5, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Maris Ensing wrote: > > > Hi Kathryn, > > > > We recently did some work for a client using a Gigapan robotic head - I > can > > recommend it. The software comes with the head. > > http://www.gigapan.com/cms/shop/store > > > > The only issue is depth of field - we used a Canon 5D with an aperture > of 45 > > and it was still an issue to get everything in focus; obviously this > depends > > on the size and shape of the object and how you're doing the photography. > > > > A sample is here > > http://www.gigapan.com/gigapans/d16543dda35c936248d8e5ee5f53c55a - > these are > > 5 second exposures, note that you can see transitions between the images, > > but it is quite possible to compensate for this. > > > > Best > > Maris > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > Behalf > > Of Kathryn Murano > > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2012 3:12 PM > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: [MUSEUM-L] 360 degree photography > > > > We are thinking about purchasing a hardware and software system to do > > 360 degree or even spherical object photography, and I'm wondering if > anyone > > could recommend a system they have used. We need a system that minimally > > includes the photo arm, turntable, and software to stitch the images > > together, and it has to be capable of doing large format objects. At this > > stage of information gathering we are not limiting ourselves to a > particular > > budget. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Kathryn Murano > > Registrar > > Rochester Museum & Science Center > > > > ========================================================> > Important Subscriber Information: > > > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail > message > > to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "help" > > (without the quotes). > > > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to > > [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "Signoff > > Museum-L" (without the quotes). > > > > ========================================================> > Important Subscriber Information: > > > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail > message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should > read "help" (without the quotes). > > > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message > to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail > message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should > read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > -- -L. ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --0015175cd9e8fff0c604c1d2a450 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anyone know if there any examples of open source software to support 3-D imaging like this, or if anyone has begun exploring such an option

-L.

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Kay Voyvodich <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi Kathryn,

I work with two companies who develop these kind of hardware/software imaging systems on a per-client basis, and who are both on the leading edge of developing spherical imaging techniques, one in the macro-imaging world and one in the micr-imaging world. They also install and maintain systems for documentation of collections and pieces in museum environments.

Both were key presenters at the Fine Conference at CMU sponsored by GIgapan, and specifically focus on these tools. I highly recommend their work. Please contact me and I'll introduce you directly.

Best
Kay
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On Jun 5, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Maris Ensing wrote:

> Hi Kathryn,
>
> We recently did some work for a client using a Gigapan robotic head - I can
> recommend it. The software comes with the head.
> http://www.gigapan.com/cms/shop/store
>
> The only issue is depth of field - we used a Canon 5D with an aperture of 45
> and it was still an issue to get everything in focus; obviously this depends
> on the size and shape of the object and how you're doing the photography.
>
> A sample is here
> http://www.gigapan.com/gigapans/d16543dda35c936248d8e5ee5f53c55a - these are
> 5 second exposures, note that you can see transitions between the images,
> but it is quite possible to compensate for this.
>
> Best
> Maris
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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========================================================================Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 19:11:54 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Marc A Williams <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: 360 degree photography MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D7_01CD4418.3C55EB20" Message-ID: <8DA83A8FA5DD4BE3B3E0EBB42C9E5A78@PC261231188215> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00D7_01CD4418.3C55EB20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have you considered Reflectance Transformation Imaging (RTI)? It is technique that creates three-dimensional images of numerous types of objects, from small two-dimensional to large three-dimensional. It also allows varying the spectral reflection level. No special equipment is required, just a high quality digital camera, a hand-held flash, and a tripod. Generally for good images, two people are required to take the images. An object can be photographed in 5-10 minutes once the equipment is set up. The images are processed in a special software and viewed in a special viewing software, both of which are available for free. For more information, please visit the following web site. http://culturalheritageimaging.org/Technologies/RTI/ Marc Marc A. Williams, President, American Conservation Consortium MS in Art Conservation, Winterthur Museum Program Former Chief Wooden Objects Conservator, Smithsonian Institution Fellow, American Institute for Conservation (AIC) ----- Original Message ----- From: Lissa Kramer To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] 360 degree photography Does anyone know if there any examples of open source software to support 3-D imaging like this, or if anyone has begun exploring such an option -L. On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Kay Voyvodich <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Hi Kathryn, I work with two companies who develop these kind of hardware/software imaging systems on a per-client basis, and who are both on the leading edge of developing spherical imaging techniques, one in the macro-imaging world and one in the micr-imaging world. They also install and maintain systems for documentation of collections and pieces in museum environments. Both were key presenters at the Fine Conference at CMU sponsored by GIgapan, and specifically focus on these tools. I highly recommend their work. Please contact me and I'll introduce you directly. Best Kay [log in to unmask] On Jun 5, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Maris Ensing wrote: > Hi Kathryn, > > We recently did some work for a client using a Gigapan robotic head - I can > recommend it. The software comes with the head. > http://www.gigapan.com/cms/shop/store > > The only issue is depth of field - we used a Canon 5D with an aperture of 45 > and it was still an issue to get everything in focus; obviously this depends > on the size and shape of the object and how you're doing the photography. > > A sample is here > http://www.gigapan.com/gigapans/d16543dda35c936248d8e5ee5f53c55a - these are > 5 second exposures, note that you can see transitions between the images, > but it is quite possible to compensate for this. > > Best > Maris > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Museum discussion list [mailto:To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------=_NextPart_000_00D7_01CD4418.3C55EB20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Have you considered Reflectance Transformation Imaging (RTI)?  It is technique that creates three-dimensional images of numerous types of objects, from small two-dimensional to large three-dimensional.  It also allows varying the spectral reflection level.  No special equipment is required, just a high quality digital camera, a hand-held flash, and a tripod.  Generally for good images, two people are required to take the images.  An object can be photographed in 5-10 minutes once the equipment is set up.  The images are processed in a special software and viewed in a special viewing software, both of which are available for free.  For more information, please visit the following web site.
 
 
Marc

Marc A. Williams, President, American Conservation Consortium
     MS in Art Conservation, Winterthur Museum Program
     Former Chief Wooden Objects Conservator, Smithsonian Institution
     Fellow, American Institute for Conservation (AIC)
 
----- Original Message -----
From: [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Lissa Kramer
To: [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2012 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] 360 degree photography

Does anyone know if there any examples of open source software to support 3-D imaging like this, or if anyone has begun exploring such an option

-L.

On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 6:19 PM, Kay Voyvodich <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi Kathryn,

I work with two companies who develop these kind of hardware/software imaging systems on a per-client basis, and who are both on the leading edge of developing spherical imaging techniques, one in the macro-imaging world and one in the micr-imaging world. They also install and maintain systems for documentation of collections and pieces in museum environments.

Both were key presenters at the Fine Conference at CMU sponsored by GIgapan, and specifically focus on these tools. I highly recommend their work. Please contact me and I'll introduce you directly.

Best
Kay
[log in to unmask]


On Jun 5, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Maris Ensing wrote:

> Hi Kathryn,
>
> We recently did some work for a client using a Gigapan robotic head - I can
> recommend it. The software comes with the head.
> http://www.gigapan.com/cms/shop/store
>
> The only issue is depth of field - we used a Canon 5D with an aperture of 45
> and it was still an issue to get everything in focus; obviously this depends
> on the size and shape of the object and how you're doing the photography.
>
> A sample is here
> http://www.gigapan.com/gigapans/d16543dda35c936248d8e5ee5f53c55a - these are
> 5 second exposures, note that you can see transitions between the images,
> but it is quite possible to compensate for this.
>
> Best
> Maris
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Museum discussion list [mailto:To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link:
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------=_NextPart_000_00D7_01CD4418.3C55EB20-- ========================================================================Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 21:08:39 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Paul Stromdahl <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> You should have read at least most of them. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 6, 2012, at 9:34 AM, Shannon Lindridge <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Wow! A lot of comments on this one--not that there shouldn't be. I didn't read through them all, but a thought did come to me. Although email and text messaging is the way a lot of business is conducted these days, and let's remember emails are a great vehicle for fraud and scams, why wouldn't the lawyer send a certified letter via snail mail or actually pick up the phone and make a phone call as the first form of contact?? I would hesitate to take the email seriously as well and would probably trash it. Personally, I have had someone hack into my email and ask all my contacts for money b/c I was stranded in Europe!! --Nope sitting safe at home in the US. So, someone could have hacked into this lawyers account and is sending out fraudulent emails--I guess you could call her, or send a letter. Hope it all works out well and without too much hassle. > > --Shannon Lindridge, Registar > Roberson Museum and Science Center > 30 Front Street > Binghamton, NY 13903 > > 607-772-0660 ext 207 > [log in to unmask] > > ========================================================= > Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-FA0EA9E7-B3E4-4802-B01D-C9031353B18C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --Apple-Mail-FA0EA9E7-B3E4-4802-B01D-C9031353B18C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Beth, Why don't you run this by the San Diego Museum of Art. They might be able to tell you whether it sounds consistent with communication they received. Kathy Kenyon Independent Researcher San Jose, CA [log in to unmask] On Jun 4, 2012, at 1:09 PM, Beth Parker Miller <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > We have recently received the following email. We are investigating its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such an email as well. > Thank you. > Beth Parker Miller > Registrar > Winterthur Museum > [log in to unmask] > 302-888-4988 > > From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM > To: Linda Eaton > Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781 > > Dear Mrs.Eaton, > May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie. > These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am working. > I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at slender prices. > I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can consult it. > My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be evaluated by a neutral expert. > Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest convenience. > As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due forme" in a few days. > Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible, > With best regards > > Eva STERZING > Avocat à la Cour > Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company > adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine > 92100 Boulogne Billancourt > Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20 > Fax : 01.77.87.70.24 > > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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Beth,

Why don't you run this by the San Diego Museum of Art. They might be able to tell you whether it sounds consistent with communication they received.

Kathy Kenyon
Independent Researcher
San Jose, CA
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On Jun 4, 2012, at 1:09 PM, Beth Parker Miller <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

We have recently received the following email.  We are investigating its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such an email as well.
Thank you.
Beth Parker Miller
Registrar
Winterthur Museum
302-888-4988
 
From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM
To: Linda Eaton
Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781
 
Dear Mrs.Eaton,
May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie.  
These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am working.  
I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at slender prices.
I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can consult it.
My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be evaluated by a neutral expert.
Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest convenience.
As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due forme" in a few days.
Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible,
With best regards
  
Eva STERZING
Avocat à la Cour
Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company
adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine
92100 Boulogne Billancourt
Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20
Fax : 01.77.87.70.24
 


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--Apple-Mail-FA0EA9E7-B3E4-4802-B01D-C9031353B18C-- ========================================================================Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 20:55:14 -0700 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Kay Voyvodich <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Email re: Nazi era claim - legit? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_D80KjDN07I+F4Tat/E2OPg)" Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --Boundary_(ID_D80KjDN07I+F4Tat/E2OPg) Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Beth - I have not been following this thread to this point, but am intrigued. There are numerous aspects of the email that are questionable, but a little online research about Eva indicates the following: http://www.jewishjournal.com/yom_hashoah/article/schwarzenegger_turns_return_of_nazi-looted_art_into_history_lesson_20090413/ In addition to what Kathy suggests, perhaps check with Hearst Castle and Stanford Mansion in Sacramento for additional clues from what appears might be a similar recovery efforts by Ms. Sterzing. Looking forward to learning what prevails as the truth -- and how it is handled. Kay KV Associates Sent from my iPad On Jun 6, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Kathleen Kenyon <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Beth, > > Why don't you run this by the San Diego Museum of Art. They might be able to tell you whether it sounds consistent with communication they received. > > Kathy Kenyon > Independent Researcher > San Jose, CA > [log in to unmask] > > On Jun 4, 2012, at 1:09 PM, Beth Parker Miller <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> We have recently received the following email. We are investigating its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such an email as well. >> Thank you. >> Beth Parker Miller >> Registrar >> Winterthur Museum >> [log in to unmask] >> 302-888-4988 >> >> From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]] >> Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM >> To: Linda Eaton >> Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781 >> >> Dear Mrs.Eaton, >> May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie. >> These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am working. >> I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at slender prices. >> I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can consult it. >> My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be evaluated by a neutral expert. >> Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest convenience. >> As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due forme" in a few days. >> Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible, >> With best regards >> >> Eva STERZING >> Avocat à la Cour >> Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company >> adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine >> 92100 Boulogne Billancourt >> Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20 >> Fax : 01.77.87.70.24 >> >> >> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >> > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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Beth -

I have not been following this thread to this point, but am intrigued. There are numerous aspects of the email that are questionable, but a little online research about Eva indicates the following:

http://www.jewishjournal.com/yom_hashoah/article/schwarzenegger_turns_return_of_nazi-looted_art_into_history_lesson_20090413/

In addition to what Kathy suggests, perhaps check with Hearst Castle and Stanford Mansion in Sacramento for additional clues from what appears might be a similar recovery efforts by Ms. Sterzing. 

Looking forward to learning what prevails as the truth -- and how it is handled.

Kay 
KV Associates

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 6, 2012, at 6:29 PM, Kathleen Kenyon <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Beth,

Why don't you run this by the San Diego Museum of Art. They might be able to tell you whether it sounds consistent with communication they received.

Kathy Kenyon
Independent Researcher
San Jose, CA
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On Jun 4, 2012, at 1:09 PM, Beth Parker Miller <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

We have recently received the following email.  We are investigating its legitimacy and are interested to know if others may have received such an email as well.
Thank you.
Beth Parker Miller
Registrar
Winterthur Museum
302-888-4988
 
From: SL Avocat [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 6:17 AM
To: Linda Eaton
Subject: Oppenheimer Estate claim of the silver soup tureens made by Johann Sebastian Würth Vienna 1781
 
Dear Mrs.Eaton,
May I present myself to you: I am the attorney of law of the heirs of Rosa and Jakob Oppenheimer, well-known art dealers and gallerists in Berlin who had to leave Germany in the very beginning of 1933 to escape from being murdered by Hitler's SA men, as well as the liquidator of the five companies they inherited the shares of by a bequest of Albert Loeske, one of the richest man in Berlin at this time because they worked for him in a very profitable way, such as the van Diemen & Co. Cie.  
These fine people did not overlive persecution. They fled to France. They hid in Nizza. Rosa who wanted to go out sometimes, was arrested and deported to Auschwitz where she got killed. Her husband did of sorrow in Nizza. They had three children Nelly divorced Bloch, Hildegard married STEIN and Hans who overlived, who overlived, got maried and had children for whom I am working.  
I hereby claim In my quality as attorney of law and liquidator of the art galeries one of which is the van Diemen & Co. company, and in the the name of all the heirs of Rosa and Jakob the above mentioned silver soup tureens which Rosa and Jakob were deprived of in duress at the Graupe auction, a so-called "Judenauktion" No. 142 on April 26/27th, 1935 Nos.336 and 337, plate 71, at slender prices.
I settled many files for my clients with American museums and institutes such as SMITHONIAN Institut, Mueum of San DIEGO,the State of California etc. The settlement with Smithonian is published so that you can consult it.
My clients are open to your suggestions, either you give the silver tureens back to them and of course they had to sell them since none of the heirs is rich enough to pay the part of the others heirs, or you pay them the amount these works of art are worth, what means that the tureens have to be evaluated by a neutral expert.
Finally I draw your intention to the fact that some of my clients cannot live anymore alone and are in very expensive institutions for desabled persons. So please let us settle the present matter at your earliest convenience.
As you know, we have a Holyday in France (Pentecôte) and nobody else is working in my office as me. I will forward a claim to you "en bonne et due forme" in a few days.
Looking forward to hear from you as soon as possible,
With best regards
  
Eva STERZING
Avocat à la Cour
Liquidator of the van Diemen & Co company
adresse postale : 72, route de la Reine
92100 Boulogne Billancourt
Tél.: 01.77.87.70.20
Fax : 01.77.87.70.24
 


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--B_3421918977_329055-- ========================================================================Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 13:58:55 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Janis Wilkens <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Nomenclature Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_59D23C6B6720CD49BA7A3A593E96E08001A7D79C67B0MOTNS08motn_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --_000_59D23C6B6720CD49BA7A3A593E96E08001A7D79C67B0MOTNS08motn_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Today's challenge: How would you classify a plastic-foam "tomahawk" sold to ballgame attendees to wave around during the game? And what would you call it? I thought it might go in Personal Symbol, but there's nothing similar listed. The only naming possibility I've come up with is "souvenir." Any thoughts? _________________________________ Janis Wilkens Registrar Levine Museum of the New South 200 E. Seventh St. Charlotte NC 28202-2508 704.333.1887 x 257 | fax 704.333.1896 [log in to unmask] www.museumofthenewsouth.org/ Office hours: 12:00-6:00 T-F ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --_000_59D23C6B6720CD49BA7A3A593E96E08001A7D79C67B0MOTNS08motn_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Today’s challenge: How would you classify a plastic-foam “tomahawk” sold to ballgame attendees to wave around during the game? And what would you call it?

 

I thought it might go in Personal Symbol, but there’s nothing similar listed.

 

The only naming possibility I’ve come up with is “souvenir.”

 

Any thoughts?

 

_________________________________

Janis Wilkens
Registrar
Levine Museum of the New South
200 E. Seventh St.
Charlotte NC 28202-2508
704.333.1887 x 257  |   fax 704.333.1896
[log in to unmask]
www.museumofthenewsouth.org/
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--_000_59D23C6B6720CD49BA7A3A593E96E08001A7D79C67B0MOTNS08motn_-- ========================================================================Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 18:15:32 +0000 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Graham, Juliet" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Nomenclature In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_E522D6DFC178D644B95C57CF1C655F801CD6C835feltzeronlineul_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --_000_E522D6DFC178D644B95C57CF1C655F801CD6C835feltzeronlineul_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Graham, Thanks for all your work with the artist files. Fred and Josie will be filled with glee when I tell them you have begun to set them straight. While I was searching for nomenclature books/websites that might be useful to you, this email popped up, below, so I took it as a challenge and used the Getty art and architecture thesaurus to try and come up with a classification. I couldn't find anything. Google helped me find the actual article for sale and it was called a "cheering accessory in the shape of a tomahawk" I don't imagine you will find any foam tomahawks at Jim's house, but still a good exercise of trying to find a name for something that doesn't easily fit into naming conventions. See you tomorrow Juliet From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Janis Wilkens Sent: June-07-12 11:59 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Nomenclature Today's challenge: How would you classify a plastic-foam "tomahawk" sold to ballgame attendees to wave around during the game? And what would you call it? I thought it might go in Personal Symbol, but there's nothing similar listed. The only naming possibility I've come up with is "souvenir." Any thoughts? So I tought it would be a good challenge ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --_000_E522D6DFC178D644B95C57CF1C655F801CD6C835feltzeronlineul_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

Hi Graham,

 

Thanks for all your work with the artist files. Fred and Josie will be filled with glee when I tell them you have begun to set them straight.

 

While I was searching for nomenclature books/websites that might be useful to you, this email popped up, below, so I took it as a challenge and used the Getty art and architecture thesaurus to try and come up with  a classification. I couldn’t find anything. Google helped me find the actual article for sale and it was called a “cheering accessory in the shape of a tomahawk”

 

I don’t imagine you will find any foam tomahawks at Jim’s house, but still a good exercise of trying to find a name for something that doesn’t easily fit into naming conventions.

 

See you tomorrow

 

Juliet

 

From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Janis Wilkens
Sent: June-07-12 11:59 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Nomenclature

 

Today’s challenge: How would you classify a plastic-foam “tomahawk” sold to ballgame attendees to wave around during the game? And what would you call it?

 

I thought it might go in Personal Symbol, but there’s nothing similar listed.

 

The only naming possibility I’ve come up with is “souvenir.”

 

Any thoughts?

 

 

So I tought it would be a good challenge

 



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--_000_E522D6DFC178D644B95C57CF1C655F801CD6C835feltzeronlineul_-- ========================================================================Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 14:25:26 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Tim Bottoms <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Nomenclature In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary7d7b339e6ffd502904c1e601ed Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --047d7b339e6ffd502904c1e601ed Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think it would also qualify as a "novelty." On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Graham, Juliet <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > ** ** > > Hi Graham, **** > > ** ** > > Thanks for all your work with the artist files. Fred and Josie will be > filled with glee when I tell them you have begun to set them straight. *** > * > > ** ** > > While I was searching for nomenclature books/websites that might be useful > to you, this email popped up, below, so I took it as a challenge and used > the Getty art and architecture thesaurus to try and come up with a > classification. I couldn’t find anything. Google helped me find the actual > article for sale and it was called a “cheering accessory in the shape of a > tomahawk”**** > > ** ** > > I don’t imagine you will find any foam tomahawks at Jim’s house, but still > a good exercise of trying to find a name for something that doesn’t easily > fit into naming conventions.**** > > ** ** > > See you tomorrow **** > > ** ** > > Juliet **** > > ** ** > > *From:* Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On > Behalf Of *Janis Wilkens > *Sent:* June-07-12 11:59 AM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* [MUSEUM-L] Nomenclature**** > > ** ** > > Today’s challenge: How would you classify a plastic-foam “tomahawk” sold > to ballgame attendees to wave around during the game? And what would you > call it?**** > > ** ** > > I thought it might go in Personal Symbol, but there’s nothing similar > listed.**** > > ** ** > > The only naming possibility I’ve come up with is “souvenir.”**** > > ** ** > > Any thoughts?**** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > So I tought it would be a good challenge **** > > **** > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --047d7b339e6ffd502904c1e601ed Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I think it would also qualify as a "novelty."

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 2:15 PM, Graham, Juliet <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

 

Hi Graham,

 

Thanks for all your work with the artist files. Fred and Josie will be filled with glee when I tell them you have begun to set them straight.

 

While I was searching for nomenclature books/websites that might be useful to you, this email popped up, below, so I took it as a challenge and used the Getty art and architecture thesaurus to try and come up with  a classification. I couldn’t find anything. Google helped me find the actual article for sale and it was called a “cheering accessory in the shape of a tomahawk”

 

I don’t imagine you will find any foam tomahawks at Jim’s house, but still a good exercise of trying to find a name for something that doesn’t easily fit into naming conventions.

 

See you tomorrow

 

Juliet

 

From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Janis Wilkens
Sent: June-07-12 11:59 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Nomenclature

 

Today’s challenge: How would you classify a plastic-foam “tomahawk” sold to ballgame attendees to wave around during the game? And what would you call it?

 

I thought it might go in Personal Symbol, but there’s nothing similar listed.

 

The only naming possibility I’ve come up with is “souvenir.”

 

Any thoughts?

 

 

So I tought it would be a good challenge

 



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--047d7b339e6ffd502904c1e601ed-- ========================================================================Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 14:28:38 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Lois Brynes <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Nomenclature In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_ydpNn5aRd1ikM4jxyZKN0Q)" Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --Boundary_(ID_ydpNn5aRd1ikM4jxyZKN0Q) Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable How about "Thoughtless Native-American Artifact imitation"? On Jun 7, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Janis Wilkens wrote: > Today’s challenge: How would you classify a plastic-foam “tomahawk” sold to ballgame attendees to wave around during the game? And what would you call it? > > I thought it might go in Personal Symbol, but there’s nothing similar listed. > > The only naming possibility I’ve come up with is “souvenir.” > > Any thoughts? > > _________________________________ > > Janis Wilkens > Registrar > Levine Museum of the New South > 200 E. Seventh St. > Charlotte NC 28202-2508 > 704.333.1887 x 257 | fax 704.333.1896 > [log in to unmask] > www.museumofthenewsouth.org/ > Office hours: 12:00–6:00 T–F > > > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > Lois Brynes, Principal DeepTime Associates P.O. Box 58 Rockport, MA 01966 USA [log in to unmask] land 978 546-8574 air 978 290-3029 ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --Boundary_(ID_ydpNn5aRd1ikM4jxyZKN0Q) Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable How about "Thoughtless Native-American Artifact imitation"?


On Jun 7, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Janis Wilkens wrote:

Today’s challenge: How would you classify a plastic-foam “tomahawk” sold to ballgame attendees to wave around during the game? And what would you call it?

 

I thought it might go in Personal Symbol, but there’s nothing similar listed.

 

The only naming possibility I’ve come up with is “souvenir.”

 

Any thoughts?

 

_________________________________

Janis Wilkens
Registrar
Levine Museum of the New South
200 E. Seventh St.
Charlotte NC 28202-2508
704.333.1887 x 257  |   fax 704.333.1896
[log in to unmask]
www.museumofthenewsouth.org/
Office hours: 12:00–6:00 T–F

 



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    DeepTime Associates
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    Rockport, MA 01966
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--Boundary_(ID_ydpNn5aRd1ikM4jxyZKN0Q)-- ========================================================================Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 14:34:09 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Gabriel Jones <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Nomenclature In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundaryô6d04016d9d531d3204c1e622dd Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --f46d04016d9d531d3204c1e622dd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Memorabilia On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Lois Brynes <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > How about "Thoughtless Native-American Artifact imitation"? > > > On Jun 7, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Janis Wilkens wrote: > > ** ** ** ** ** ** ** > > Today’s challenge: How would you classify a plastic-foam “tomahawk” sold > to ballgame attendees to wave around during the game? And what would you > call it?**** > > ** ** > > I thought it might go in Personal Symbol, but there’s nothing similar > listed.**** > > ** ** > > The only naming possibility I’ve come up with is “souvenir.”**** > > ** ** > > Any thoughts?**** > > ** ** > > _________________________________ > > **Janis Wilkens** > Registrar > ****Levine** **Museum**** of the New South > ****200 E. Seventh St****. > ****Charlotte**** NC 28202-2508 > 704.333.1887 x 257 | fax 704.333.1896 > [log in to unmask] > www.museumofthenewsouth.org/ > Office hours: 12:00–6:00 T–F**** > > ** ** > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > ************** > > > Lois Brynes, Principal > DeepTime Associates > P.O. Box 58 > Rockport, MA 01966 > USA > [log in to unmask] > land 978 546-8574 > air 978 290-3029 > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --f46d04016d9d531d3204c1e622dd Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Memorabilia

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Lois Brynes <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
How about "Thoughtless Native-American Artifact imitation"?


On Jun 7, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Janis Wilkens wrote:

Today’s challenge: How would you classify a plastic-foam “tomahawk” sold to ballgame attendees to wave around during the game? And what would you call it?

 

I thought it might go in Personal Symbol, but there’s nothing similar listed.

 

The only naming possibility I’ve come up with is “souvenir.”

 

Any thoughts?

 

_________________________________

Janis Wilkens
Registrar
Levine Museum of the New South
200 E. Seventh St.
Charlotte NC 28202-2508
704.333.1887 x 257  |   fax 704.333.1896
[log in to unmask]
www.museumofthenewsouth.org/
Office hours: 12:00–6:00 T–F

 



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--f46d04016d9d531d3204c1e622dd-- ========================================================================Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 19:07:47 +0000 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Michele Leopold <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Nomenclature In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_B65F7D78A07D73448F15DAE4F11678FD22B8999FEXCHANGEMBX1crv_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --_000_B65F7D78A07D73448F15DAE4F11678FD22B8999FEXCHANGEMBX1crv_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Janis, If you are using PastPerfect - what about "novelty"? So glad to see our colleagues are out there helping us with such useful information to a honest inquiry. Michele Leopold Registrar & Collections Manager, NASCAR Hall of Fame 400 East Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd. Charlotte, NC 28202 [log in to unmask] Phone: 704/654-4465 From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Janis Wilkens Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 1:59 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Nomenclature Today's challenge: How would you classify a plastic-foam "tomahawk" sold to ballgame attendees to wave around during the game? And what would you call it? I thought it might go in Personal Symbol, but there's nothing similar listed. The only naming possibility I've come up with is "souvenir." Any thoughts? _________________________________ Janis Wilkens Registrar Levine Museum of the New South 200 E. Seventh St. Charlotte NC 28202-2508 704.333.1887 x 257 | fax 704.333.1896 [log in to unmask] www.museumofthenewsouth.org/ Office hours: 12:00-6:00 T-F ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --_000_B65F7D78A07D73448F15DAE4F11678FD22B8999FEXCHANGEMBX1crv_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Janis,

 

If you are using PastPerfect – what about “novelty”?

 

So glad to see our colleagues are out there helping us with such useful information to a honest inquiry.

 

Michele Leopold

Registrar & Collections Manager, NASCAR Hall of Fame

400 East Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.

Charlotte, NC 28202

 

[log in to unmask]

Phone: 704/654-4465

 

 

 

From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Janis Wilkens
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 1:59 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Nomenclature

 

Today’s challenge: How would you classify a plastic-foam “tomahawk” sold to ballgame attendees to wave around during the game? And what would you call it?

 

I thought it might go in Personal Symbol, but there’s nothing similar listed.

 

The only naming possibility I’ve come up with is “souvenir.”

 

Any thoughts?

 

_________________________________

Janis Wilkens
Registrar
Levine Museum of the New South
200 E. Seventh St.
Charlotte NC 28202-2508
704.333.1887 x 257  |   fax 704.333.1896
[log in to unmask]
www.museumofthenewsouth.org/
Office hours: 12:00–6:00 T–F

 

 


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--_000_B65F7D78A07D73448F15DAE4F11678FD22B8999FEXCHANGEMBX1crv_-- ========================================================================Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 14:19:22 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Rhonda Dass <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Nomenclature In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary7d7b15fcffe0f72704c1e6c28e Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --047d7b15fcffe0f72704c1e6c28e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I like Lois's answer! However, wouldn't it go into the category of recreational equipment or personal artifacts? The nomenclature should reflect the collection it belongs to as well. If this is a personal collection not related to sports using personal artifacts would be the way I would go. If it is a collection of sporting memorabilia I would go with recreational equipment. Rhonda On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Gabriel Jones <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Memorabilia > > > On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Lois Brynes <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> How about "Thoughtless Native-American Artifact imitation"? >> >> >> On Jun 7, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Janis Wilkens wrote: >> >> ** ** ** ** ** ** ** >> >> Today’s challenge: How would you classify a plastic-foam “tomahawk” sold >> to ballgame attendees to wave around during the game? And what would you >> call it?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> I thought it might go in Personal Symbol, but there’s nothing similar >> listed.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> The only naming possibility I’ve come up with is “souvenir.”**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Any thoughts?**** >> >> ** ** >> >> _________________________________ >> >> **Janis Wilkens** >> Registrar >> ****Levine** **Museum**** of the New South >> ****200 E. Seventh St****. >> ****Charlotte**** NC 28202-2508 >> 704.333.1887 x 257 | fax 704.333.1896 >> [log in to unmask] >> www.museumofthenewsouth.org/ >> Office hours: 12:00–6:00 T–F**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >> ************** >> >> >> Lois Brynes, Principal >> DeepTime Associates >> P.O. Box 58 >> Rockport, MA 01966 >> USA >> [log in to unmask] >> land 978 546-8574 >> air 978 290-3029 >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: >> http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 >> > > > ------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --047d7b15fcffe0f72704c1e6c28e Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I like Lois's answer! However, wouldn't it go into the category of recreational equipment or personal artifacts? The nomenclature should reflect the collection it belongs to as well. If this is a personal collection not related to sports using personal artifacts would be the way I would go. If it is a collection of sporting memorabilia I would go with recreational equipment.

Rhonda

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Gabriel Jones <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Memorabilia


On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Lois Brynes <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
How about "Thoughtless Native-American Artifact imitation"?


On Jun 7, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Janis Wilkens wrote:

Today’s challenge: How would you classify a plastic-foam “tomahawk” sold to ballgame attendees to wave around during the game? And what would you call it?

 

I thought it might go in Personal Symbol, but there’s nothing similar listed.

 

The only naming possibility I’ve come up with is “souvenir.”

 

Any thoughts?

 

_________________________________

Janis Wilkens
Registrar
Levine Museum of the New South
200 E. Seventh St.
Charlotte NC 28202-2508
704.333.1887 x 257  |   fax 704.333.1896
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------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CD44AA.68A475B0-- ========================================================================Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 15:53:46 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Janis Wilkens <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Nomenclature In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_59D23C6B6720CD49BA7A3A593E96E08001A7D79C67C9MOTNS08motn_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --_000_59D23C6B6720CD49BA7A3A593E96E08001A7D79C67C9MOTNS08motn_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thank you all for your great ideas! You've really helped me think through this problem-I especially liked Lois' "Thoughtless Native-American Artifact imitation!" Unless something else really inspiring comes along, I think I'll go with "Novelty, promotional." That seems to fit pretty well. Just to clarify, we have the object because the school in question decided to ditch the Native-American theme and go with something less likely to offend. _________________________________ Janis Wilkens Registrar Levine Museum of the New South ________________________________ From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Michele Leopold Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 3:08 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Nomenclature Hi Janis, If you are using PastPerfect - what about "novelty"? So glad to see our colleagues are out there helping us with such useful information to a honest inquiry. Michele Leopold Registrar & Collections Manager, NASCAR Hall of Fame 400 East Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd. Charlotte, NC 28202 [log in to unmask] Phone: 704/654-4465 From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Janis Wilkens Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2012 1:59 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Nomenclature Today's challenge: How would you classify a plastic-foam "tomahawk" sold to ballgame attendees to wave around during the game? And what would you call it? I thought it might go in Personal Symbol, but there's nothing similar listed. The only naming possibility I've come up with is "souvenir." Any thoughts? _________________________________ Janis Wilkens Registrar Levine Museum of the New South 200 E. Seventh St. Charlotte NC 28202-2508 704.333.1887 x 257 | fax 704.333.1896 [log in to unmask] www.museumofthenewsouth.org/ Office hours: 12:00-6:00 T-F ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --_000_59D23C6B6720CD49BA7A3A593E96E08001A7D79C67C9MOTNS08motn_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Thank you all for your great ideas! You’ve really helped me think through this problem—I especially liked Lois’ "Thoughtless Native-American Artifact imitation!" Unless something else really inspiring comes along, I think I’ll go with “Novelty, promotional.” That seems to fit pretty well.

 

Just to clarify, we have the object because the school in question decided to ditch the Native-American theme and go with something less likely to offend.

 

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Hi Janis,

 

If you are using PastPerfect – what about “novelty”?

 

So glad to see our colleagues are out there helping us with such useful information to a honest inquiry.

 

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Today’s challenge: How would you classify a plastic-foam “tomahawk” sold to ballgame attendees to wave around during the game? And what would you call it?

 

I thought it might go in Personal Symbol, but there’s nothing similar listed.

 

The only naming possibility I’ve come up with is “souvenir.”

 

Any thoughts?

 

_________________________________

Janis Wilkens
Registrar
Levine Museum of the New South
200 E. Seventh St.
Charlotte NC 28202-2508
704.333.1887 x 257  |   fax 704.333.1896
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--_000_59D23C6B6720CD49BA7A3A593E96E08001A7D79C67C9MOTNS08motn_-- ========================================================================Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:59:04 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Samantha Hall <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Movable/collapsible exhibit panels MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundaryMessage-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --0015175dda9a668fa604c1e827e8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Listers, We're thinking of redoing our exhibition and are looking for collapsible and/or movable exhibit panels that can be changed relatively easily. I did a quick Google search, but most of what I found is for trade show vendors. Something on wheels would be ideal, so we can move the exhibit into other areas if we want. They also need to be prefab - nothing custom-built. Any recommendations for where we might find something like this? Thanks in advance! -- *Samantha Hall* Education Coordinator Shaker Heritage Society 25 Meeting House Road Albany, NY 12211 (518) 456-7890 x23 [log in to unmask] shakerheritage.org ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --0015175dda9a668fa604c1e827e8 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Listers, 

We're thinking of redoing our exhibition and are looking for collapsible and/or movable exhibit panels that can be changed relatively easily. I did a quick Google search, but most of what I found is for trade show vendors. Something on wheels would be ideal, so we can move the exhibit into other areas if we want. They also need to be prefab - nothing custom-built. Any recommendations for where we might find something like this? Thanks in advance!

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--0015175dda9a668fa604c1e827e8-- ========================================================================Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:19:50 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Larry List <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Movable/collapsible exhibit panels In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=------------070800010203030206090000 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070800010203030206090000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The best movable exhibition panels I've ever found were the MILA modular wall system. They were not the cheapest, but they were the most economical because of ease of use and durability. The Bethel Woods Museum, in Woodstock, has used them for some time so you might contact them, or even pay a visit to check them out in person. http://www.bethelwoodscenter.org/about/contact.aspx Larry List Independent Curator New York, New York http://www.bethelwoodscenter.org/about/contact.aspx On 6/7/2012 4:59 PM, Samantha Hall wrote: > Hi Listers, > > We're thinking of redoing our exhibition and are looking for > collapsible and/or movable exhibit panels that can be changed > relatively easily. I did a quick Google search, but most of what I > found is for trade show vendors. Something on wheels would be ideal, > so we can move the exhibit into other areas if we want. They also need > to be prefab - nothing custom-built. Any recommendations for where we > might find something like this? Thanks in advance! > > -- > *Samantha Hall* > Education Coordinator > Shaker Heritage Society > 25 Meeting House Road > Albany, NY 12211 > (518) 456-7890 x23 > [log in to unmask] > shakerheritage.org > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: > http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 > > ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --------------070800010203030206090000 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The best movable exhibition panels I've ever found were the MILA modular wall system.

They were not the cheapest, but they were the most economical because of ease of use and durability.

The Bethel Woods Museum, in Woodstock, has used them for some time so you might contact them, or even pay a visit to check them out in person.

http://www.bethelwoodscenter.org/about/contact.aspx

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[log in to unmask]" type="cite">Hi Listers, 

We're thinking of redoing our exhibition and are looking for collapsible and/or movable exhibit panels that can be changed relatively easily. I did a quick Google search, but most of what I found is for trade show vendors. Something on wheels would be ideal, so we can move the exhibit into other areas if we want. They also need to be prefab - nothing custom-built. Any recommendations for where we might find something like this? Thanks in advance!

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--------------070800010203030206090000-- ========================================================================Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 17:38:49 -0400 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Wade Lawrence <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Movable/collapsible exhibit panels In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_84AF568202F6449EA7840000F00D5C34bethelwoodscenterorg_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --_000_84AF568202F6449EA7840000F00D5C34bethelwoodscenterorg_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the plug, Larry, but we're in Bethel, not Woodstock. The Woodstock festival took place here, some 75 miles away from Woodstock (go figure...). And, yes, we love our Mila-wall. Wade Wade Lawrence | Museum Director, The Museum at Bethel Woods Bethel Woods Center for the Arts *:: 845.583.2075 | fax 845.583.4242 *:: One Cablevision Center, PO Box 222 | Liberty, NY | 12754 *:: [log in to unmask] *:: www.BethelWoodsCenter.org Facebook | Twitter Pavilion and Event Gallery Stages | The Museum at Bethel Woods | Harvest Festival | Education & Community Outreach Bethel Woods is a not-for-profit cultural center located at the site of the 1969 Woodstock festival. *Make a donation today to support our mission. Visit Support Bethel Woods to learn more. On Jun 7, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Larry List wrote: The best movable exhibition panels I've ever found were the MILA modular wall system. They were not the cheapest, but they were the most economical because of ease of use and durability. The Bethel Woods Museum, in Woodstock, has used them for some time so you might contact them, or even pay a visit to check them out in person. http://www.bethelwoodscenter.org/about/contact.aspx Larry List Independent Curator New York, New York http://www.bethelwoodscenter.org/about/contact.aspx On 6/7/2012 4:59 PM, Samantha Hall wrote: Hi Listers, We're thinking of redoing our exhibition and are looking for collapsible and/or movable exhibit panels that can be changed relatively easily. I did a quick Google search, but most of what I found is for trade show vendors. Something on wheels would be ideal, so we can move the exhibit into other areas if we want. They also need to be prefab - nothing custom-built. Any recommendations for where we might find something like this? Thanks in advance! -- Samantha Hall Education Coordinator Shaker Heritage Society 25 Meeting House Road Albany, NY 12211 (518) 456-7890 x23 [log in to unmask] shakerheritage.org ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 ________________________________ To unsubscribe from the MUSEUM-L list, click the following link: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/scripts/wa.exe?SUBED1=MUSEUM-L&A=1 ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --_000_84AF568202F6449EA7840000F00D5C34bethelwoodscenterorg_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the plug, Larry, but we're in Bethel, not Woodstock. The Woodstock festival took place here, some 75 miles away from Woodstock (go figure...). And, yes, we love our Mila-wall.
Wade

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On Jun 7, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Larry List wrote:

The best movable exhibition panels I've ever found were the MILA modular wall system.

They were not the cheapest, but they were the most economical because of ease of use and durability.

The Bethel Woods Museum, in Woodstock, has used them for some time so you might contact them, or even pay a visit to check them out in person.

http://www.bethelwoodscenter.org/about/contact.aspx

Larry List
Independent Curator
New York, New York


http://www.bethelwoodscenter.org/about/contact.aspx

On 6/7/2012 4:59 PM, Samantha Hall wrote:
[log in to unmask]" type="cite">Hi Listers, 

We're thinking of redoing our exhibition and are looking for collapsible and/or movable exhibit panels that can be changed relatively easily. I did a quick Google search, but most of what I found is for trade show vendors. Something on wheels would be ideal, so we can move the exhibit into other areas if we want. They also need to be prefab - nothing custom-built. Any recommendations for where we might find something like this? Thanks in advance!

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Shaker Heritage Society
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Albany, NY 12211
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--_000_84AF568202F6449EA7840000F00D5C34bethelwoodscenterorg_-- ========================================================================Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:32:29 -0700 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Nicole Nathan <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Open collections & exhibits position at Oregon Nikkei Endowment MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundarye6ba6e8cfe0f502904c1ea4cb1 Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> --90e6ba6e8cfe0f502904c1ea4cb1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello everyone, As of June 15 I will be leaving my position at Oregon Nikkei Endowment, so it will be open for a qualified applicant to begin August 1. I'm moving to the Museum of Contemporary Craft as their Curator of Collections-- just up the street. Application instructions below. * * *Director of Collections and Exhibits (30 hrs/week)* *Oregon Nikkei Endowment (O.N.E.)* *Portland, Oregon* * * * * Applications due at Oregon Nikkei Endowment: 5:00 PM (Pacific Daylight Time) on Friday, June 29, 2012. THIS IS NOT A POSTMARK DEADLINE. Applications can be hand delivered or mailed to Oregon Nikkei Endowment, 121 NW 2nd. Ave, Portland, OR 97201 or sent electronically to [log in to unmask] * * *Responsibilities* * * § Overall supervision and management for all exhibits and collections sponsored by Oregon Nikkei Endowment (O.N.E.). § Management of the museum's collection of artifacts, photographs, and archives. Serve as the staff person for the Collections Committee of the Board. Train interns and volunteers in the artifact collection and preservation process for current and future collections of historical information. Maintain an inventory of acquired items and provide for proper storage. Oversee all aspects of collections management: accessioning, conservation of collection, as well as working within the community to identify and acquire appropriate additions to the collection. Work with the O.N.E. board to create a long-term plan for funding, care and display of collections. § Development of temporary exhibition schedule. Creation and curation of 2-4 temporary exhibits new exhibits per year. Duties include: original research, exhibition design, program development, and writing labels, essays and publications as needed – and/or implementation of exhibitions originating at peer institutions, with guest curators and/or artists. Train and supervise volunteers and interns working on exhibits. § Serve as staff for the Program Committee which carries out the responsibility for monitoring and evaluating exhibits, programs, and cultural-related activities. The Program Committee meets bi-monthly to review the status of all work in progress as it relates to exhibits, special events and promotions. Work with the Program Committee to ensure that exhibits are consistent with O.N.E.’s mission. § Updating of permanent exhibit as necessary to ensure that subject matter is relevant to O.N.E.’s mission. § Assist with operations when needed, including special event staffing and special tours. This may require work on the weekend or during the evenings. § Collaborate with staff on exhibit interpretation, public programs, outreach, and social media. * * * * *Qualifications:* Three years of progressive professional museum experience, including at least one year of supervisory experience. Demonstrated experience with project planning and management including program development, coordination/delivery, evaluation, and budgeting required. Strong collaboration skills, including the ability to work as a team member with other staff, the board of directors, and volunteers. Demonstrated ability to communicate orally and in writing (including email). Ability to communicate effectively with a variety of people, especially volunteers. Ability to work without supervision and as a team member. Ability to work on several projects at the same time. Familiarity with Past Perfect Museum software a plus. Have the highest standards of integrity, be outgoing, self-starting, well-organized, tactful, detail-oriented, innovative and capable of working under pressure and meeting deadlines. Interest or experience in Japanese American history and culture is preferred but is not required. *Education:* Master’s degree in museum studies, museology, or curatorial practices. A combination of education and experience, which meet the minimum qualifications, may be substituted. *Salary: *$17.50 - $18.50/hour depending on qualifications *Benefits* Healthcare (medical, vision, and dental) vacation and sick leave *Application Instructions *Please submit a letter detailing your work with collections and exhibits, and include a resume with 3 references. * * *Selection Process *A search committee will review the applications and will generate a list of candidates to be interviewed. After this initial round, a selection may be made or a second round of interviews will be held, which may include a larger group. It is expected that the successful candidate will begin work on August 1. -- nicole nathan | principal claret associates | exhibition and collections management Portland, Oregon 503 490 8971 claretassociates.net @ClaretAssoc chair | registrars committee | western region rcwr.org -- nicole nathan | principal claret associates | exhibition and collections management Portland, Oregon 503 490 8971 claretassociates.net @ClaretAssoc chair | registrars committee | western region rcwr.org ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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As of June 15 I will be leaving my position at Oregon Nikkei Endowment, so it will be open for a qualified applicant to begin August 1. I'm moving to the Museum of Contemporary Craft as their Curator of Collections-- just up the street.

Application instructions below.

 

 

 

 

Director of Collections and Exhibits (30 hrs/week)

Oregon Nikkei Endowment (O.N.E.)

Portland, Oregon

 

 

Applications due at Oregon Nikkei Endowment: 5:00 PM (Pacific Daylight Time) on Friday, June 29, 2012. THIS IS NOT A POSTMARK DEADLINE. Applications can be hand delivered or mailed to Oregon Nikkei Endowment, 121 NW 2nd. Ave, Portland, OR  97201 or sent electronically to [log in to unmask]

 

Responsibilities

 

§  Overall supervision and management for all exhibits and collections sponsored by Oregon Nikkei Endowment (O.N.E.).

§  Management of the museum's collection of artifacts, photographs, and archives. Serve as the staff person for the Collections Committee of the Board. Train interns and volunteers in the artifact collection and preservation process for current and future collections of historical information. Maintain an inventory of acquired items and provide for proper storage. Oversee all aspects of collections management: accessioning, conservation of collection, as well as working within the community to identify and acquire appropriate additions to the collection. Work with the O.N.E. board to create a long-term plan for funding, care and display of collections.

§  Development of temporary exhibition schedule. Creation and curation of 2-4 temporary exhibits new exhibits per year. Duties include: original research, exhibition design, program development, and writing labels, essays and publications as needed – and/or implementation of exhibitions originating at peer institutions, with guest curators and/or artists. Train and supervise volunteers and interns working on exhibits.

§  Serve as staff for the Program Committee which carries out the responsibility for monitoring and evaluating exhibits, programs, and cultural-related activities. The Program Committee meets bi-monthly to review the status of all work in progress as it relates to exhibits, special events and promotions. Work with the Program Committee to ensure that exhibits are consistent with O.N.E.’s mission. 

§  Updating of permanent exhibit as necessary to ensure that subject matter is relevant to O.N.E.’s mission.

§  Assist with operations when needed, including special event staffing and special tours. This may require work on the weekend or during the evenings.

 

§  Collaborate with staff on exhibit interpretation, public programs, outreach, and social media.

 

 

Qualifications:

 

Three years of progressive professional museum experience, including at least one year of supervisory experience. 

 

Demonstrated experience with project planning and management including program development, coordination/delivery, evaluation, and budgeting required.

 

Strong collaboration skills, including the ability to work as a team member with other staff, the board of directors, and volunteers. 

 

Demonstrated ability to communicate orally and in writing (including email).

 

Ability to communicate effectively with a variety of people, especially volunteers.

 

Ability to work without supervision and as a team member.

 

Ability to work on several projects at the same time.

 

Familiarity with Past Perfect Museum software a plus.

 

Have the highest standards of integrity, be outgoing, self-starting, well-organized, tactful, detail-oriented, innovative and capable of working under pressure and meeting deadlines.

 

Interest or experience in Japanese American history and culture is preferred but is not required.

 

Education: 

 

Master’s degree in museum studies, museology, or curatorial practices.

 

A combination of education and experience, which meet the minimum qualifications, may be substituted.

 

 

Salary:                                                  $17.50 - $18.50/hour depending on qualifications

 

Benefits                                               Healthcare (medical, vision, and dental) vacation and sick leave

 

Application Instructions               Please submit a letter detailing your work with collections and exhibits, and include a resume with 3 references.

                                                               

Selection Process                            A search committee will review the applications and will generate a list of candidates to be interviewed. After this initial round, a selection may be made or a second round of interviews will be held, which may include a larger group.

 

It is expected that the successful candidate will begin work on August 1.


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nicole nathan | principal

claret associates | exhibition and collections management

Portland, Oregon
503 490 8971

claretassociates.net
@ClaretAssoc
chair | registrars committee | western region rcwr.org




--
nicole nathan | principal

claret associates | exhibition and collections management

Portland, Oregon
503 490 8971

claretassociates.net
@ClaretAssoc
chair | registrars committee | western region rcwr.org



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