Absolutely not!!! I am currently in the process of hiring a summer intern and I expect them to already have relevant experience and a degree. I am more lenient with volunteer interns, but I still expect them to earn their keep and "loving history" is not part of the job description. I learned the hard way that accepting anyone who walks through the door with a "love of art" can end up being a disaster and a waste of everyone's time. That being said, I think that basic intelligence and common sense can be a lot more valuable then specific skills. If you have an intern who can learn to do A,B and C quickly and has good research skills, they can be a lot more useful then one who already knows X,Y and Z, but can't problem solve or think on their feet.
Honestly, I don't care if they stay in the profession or not. Who knows where they're going to end up in life. I wish them all the best, but their life is not my business or my concern. Perhaps your experience will inspire them to become your future big donor. As long as they are satisfied with the experience and the museum gets something useful out of their time, then everybody wins!
What has shocked me is how few applicants (some of them very good and well educated) know how to format a cover letter. It's not hard to Google these things. Why does no one know where to put the date? Or that you are supposed to actually *sign* your name???
Frustrating as it is to devote scarce time and energy to supervising interns who love history but don't plan to stay in the museum field, you might think of it as an investment in future audiences, museum members, board members, and supporters. Easy for me to say, since it's not my investment of time, but I've known some interns through the years who didn't become museum professionals but are fine citizens, nevertheless, and have a good understanding of our field. Ultimately you're weighing the short-term benefit of an intern with the long-term benefits, which you may not reap. But that's true if they go into the museum profession, too.
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Good morning Christa and all,
While I am not in a position to hire or supervise interns, I am an emerging museum professional with my internships in the not-so-distant past. My undergraduate degree is in Apparel Design, and during my time at university I completed two internships: one in the fashion industry of NYC and the other at a state historical society working primarily with historical costume. I bring this up because, at that time, I was a student who "loved history" but had no idea that I would end up in the heritage sector.
Some of these interns you are working with may well start off unsure of what path they want to take, and yes, some may be there for perceived fun. An internship is (or should be) an opportunity to discover and hone our passions. If an intern decides that museum work is not for them, so be it. My opinion is, if they do the job well during their internship, that's all you can ask for.
Hope this is an encouragement to all of you out their supervising interns!
Best,
Adam MacPharlain
859.200.2320
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>
>Hello All,
>
>My question is about interns. After having recently interviewing over 20 interns for the summer semester (fyi, we are a staff of 4 and will have more interns then staff at the Museum this summer), I have begun to feel that potential interns think that a love of history is enough to get them a position. Is it really enough?
>I have begun to feel that no it?s not. Often times they don?t have the experience with basic computer programs or with graphic design programs (mainly exhibits and marketing interns). I understand with this economy getting an internship and experience is the best for their resume and for getting a job after college. Also I understand that people need to start their experience somewhere,but most of these students don?t want to be in the Museum world when they graduate and often times assume that they will get to ?play? with cool artifacts all day. We all know that the truth is, there is a lot of paperwork involved with maintaining a collection along with data entry, both of which are not glamorous or very exciting.
>I know that our job is to teach interns but like many of us, we are juggling multiple tasks to make up for the positions that are currently empty and can?t be filled due to budget. Our teaching and training time is limited. I do want to have interns with a passion for history but also a passion to work in Museums. I sometimes feel like my time was wasted trying to teach and train someone who just wanted to do this for fun.
>
>I am sorry if this sounds like whining or sour grapes but I would like to know from others if a love of history is enough?
>
>Sincerely,
>
>
>Christa McCay, M.H.P.
>Registrar
>Marietta Museum of History
>1 Depot Street, Ste. 200
>Marietta, GA 30060
>770-794-5726
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Good morning Christa and all,
While I am not in a position to hire or supervise interns, I am an emerging museum professional with my internships in the not-so-distant past. My undergraduate degree is in Apparel Design, and during my time at university I completed two internships: one in the fashion industry of NYC and the other at a state historical society working primarily with historical costume. I bring this up because, at that time, I was a student who "loved history" but had no idea that I would end up in the heritage sector.
Some of these interns you are working with may well start off unsure of what path they want to take, and yes, some may be there for perceived fun. An internship is (or should be) an opportunity to discover and hone our passions. If an intern decides that museum work is not for them, so be it. My opinion is, if they do the job well during their internship, that's all you can ask for.
Hope this is an encouragement to all of you out their supervising interns!
From: Christa McCay <[log in to unmask]> To:[log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 11:09 AM Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Is a love of history enough for interns?
Hello All,
My question is about interns. After having recently interviewing over 20 interns for the summer semester (fyi, we are a staff of 4 and will have more interns then staff at the Museum this summer), I have begun to feel
that potential interns think that a love of history is enough to get them a position. Is it really enough? I have begun to feel that no it?s not. Often times they don?t have the experience with basic computer programs or with graphic design programs (mainly exhibits and marketing interns). I understand with this economy getting an internship and experience is the best for their resume and for getting a job after college. Also I understand that people need to start their experience somewhere,but most of these students don?t want to be in the Museum world when they graduate and often times assume that they will get to ?play? with cool artifacts all day. We all know that the truth is, there is a lot of paperwork involved with maintaining a collection along with data entry, both of which are not glamorous or very exciting. I know that our job is to teach interns but like many of us, we are juggling multiple tasks to make
up for the positions that are currently empty and can?t be filled due to budget. Our teaching and training time is limited. I do want to have interns with a passion for history but also a passion to work in Museums. I sometimes feel like my time was wasted trying to teach and train someone who just wanted to do this for fun.
I am sorry if this sounds like whining or sour grapes but I would like to know from others if a love of history is enough?
Sincerely,
Christa McCay, M.H.P. Registrar Marietta Museum of History 1 Depot Street, Ste. 200 Marietta, GA 30060 770-794-5726
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I think an internship is their opportunity to try out a job and see if
they like it before actually working or preparing to work in that field.
It is a time for those that are committed to refine what they like
doing, and also a time for them to learn what they DON'T like doing so
they don't waste any more time going in that direction with their
coursework or career.
Is a love of history enough? No, they have to also be able to write,
speak intelligently, have basic computer skills or whatever they need to
be useful for your situation.
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Ella Aderman
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Hello All,
My question is about interns. After having recently interviewing over
20 interns for the summer semester (fyi, we are a staff of 4 and will
have more interns then staff at the Museum this summer), I have begun to
feel that potential interns think that a love of history is enough to
get them a position. Is it really enough?
I have begun to feel that no it?s not. Often times they don?t have the
experience with basic computer programs or with graphic design programs
(mainly exhibits and marketing interns). I understand with this economy
getting an internship and experience is the best for their resume and
for getting a job after college. Also I understand that people need to
start their experience somewhere,but most of these students don?t want
to be in the Museum world when they graduate and often times assume that
they will get to ?play? with cool artifacts all day. We all know that
the truth is, there is a lot of paperwork involved with maintaining a
collection along with data entry, both of which are not glamorous or
very exciting.
I know that our job is to teach interns but like many of us, we are
juggling multiple tasks to make up for the positions that are currently
empty and can?t be filled due to budget. Our teaching and training time
is limited. I do want to have interns with a passion for history but
also a passion to work in Museums. I sometimes feel like my time was
wasted trying to teach and train someone who just wanted to do this for
fun.
I am sorry if this sounds like whining or sour grapes but I would like
to know from others if a love of history is enough?
Sincerely,
Christa McCay, M.H.P.
Registrar
Marietta Museum of History
1 Depot Street, Ste. 200
Marietta, GA 30060
770-794-5726
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I have to say that selecting and supervising an internship is very
different than hiring someone for a staff position.
Frankly it is illegal to use interns as you do other workers. An
educational component is required. This hit the news almost two years ago
where audits by the IRS had turned up abuses in the use of interns in
for-profit and non-profit organizations.
So why are some out there looking for interns who already have the skills
they would require for a staff job? An internship is about developing those
skills and in continuing their education with experience so that they can
get a staff job in the field after the internship.
I agree that general and critical thinking skills are needed and that
those, along with communication and people skills, may be more valuable
than previous specific experience.
Over the years I have had many interns who I selected to work for me in a
museum and a regional conservation lab. These ranged from those who were
getting their BA to those who were post graduate interns aspiring for staff
positions after the internship. I always looked for the love or enthusiasm
of the field (including History, Art, and Science) along with writing and
critical thinking skills. And since this was a conservation lab internship
demonstrated hand skills were essential.
Yes, the interns I had did a lot of the basic work we had to do, but I
always made sure that they had time to be involved and to get to know the
wider activities of the museum, they were assigned a minimum of one project
where they were required to do research and write an article or paper about
their project. We also spent time to help them understand what a career in
the field consisted of. I am proud that many of my interns went on to
graduate school and also important positions in the field. And I am equally
proud of those who loved the experience but their lives led them elsewhere.
In my opinion to educate and enhance a young person's life in a positive
way, to be part of a process of mentoring them into the field, and to
encourage and support their careers, makes internships as valuable a
component of my life as it is to theirs.
Cheers!
Dave
David Harvey
Senior Conservator and Museum Conservator
Los Angeles CA
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Callie Stewart <
[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Absolutely not!!! I am currently in the process of hiring a summer intern
> and I expect them to already have relevant experience and a degree. I am
> more lenient with volunteer interns, but I still expect them to earn their
> keep and "loving history" is not part of the job description. I learned
> the hard way that accepting anyone who walks through the door with a "love
> of art" can end up being a disaster and a waste of everyone's time. That
> being said, I think that basic intelligence and common sense can be a lot
> more valuable then specific skills. If you have an intern who can learn to
> do A,B and C quickly and has good research skills, they can be a lot more
> useful then one who already knows X,Y and Z, but can't problem solve or
> think on their feet.
>
> Honestly, I don't care if they stay in the profession or not. Who knows
> where they're going to end up in life. I wish them all the best, but their
> life is not my business or my concern. Perhaps your experience will
> inspire them to become your future big donor. As long as they are
> satisfied with the experience and the museum gets something useful out of
> their time, then everybody wins!
>
> What has shocked me is how few applicants (some of them very good and well
> educated) know how to format a cover letter. It's not hard to Google these
> things. Why does no one know where to put the date? Or that you are
> supposed to actually *sign* your name???
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Fox, Amy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Frustrating as it is to devote scarce time and energy to supervising
>> interns who love history but don't plan to stay in the museum field, you
>> might think of it as an investment in future audiences, museum members,
>> board members, and supporters. Easy for me to say, since it's not my
>> investment of time, but I've known some interns through the years who
>> didn't become museum professionals but are fine citizens, nevertheless, and
>> have a good understanding of our field. Ultimately you're weighing the
>> short-term benefit of an intern with the long-term benefits, which you may
>> not reap. But that's true if they go into the museum profession, too.
>>
>> [log in to unmask]
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>> Amy Killpatrick Fox
>> Museum Educator
>> Bureau of Historic Sites & Museums, PHMC
>> Commonwealth Keystone Building
>> 400 North St.
>> Harrisburg, PA 17120
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I have to say that selecting and supervising an internship is very different than hiring someone for a staff position.
Frankly it is illegal to use interns as you do other workers. An educational component is required. This hit the news almost two years ago where audits by the IRS had turned up abuses in the use of interns in for-profit and non-profit organizations.
So why are some out there looking for interns who already have the skills they would require for a staff job? An internship is about developing those skills and in continuing their education with experience so that they can get a staff job in the field after the internship.
I agree that general and critical thinking skills are needed and that those, along with communication and people skills, may be more valuable than previous specific experience.
Over the years I have had many interns who I selected to work for me in a museum and a regional conservation lab. These ranged from those who were getting their BA to those who were post graduate interns aspiring for staff positions after the internship. I always looked for the love or enthusiasm of the field (including History, Art, and Science) along with writing and critical thinking skills. And since this was a conservation lab internship demonstrated hand skills were essential.
Yes, the interns I had did a lot of the basic work we had to do, but I always made sure that they had time to be involved and to get to know the wider activities of the museum, they were assigned a minimum of one project where they were required to do research and write an article or paper about their project. We also spent time to help them understand what a career in the field consisted of. I am proud that many of my interns went on to graduate school and also important positions in the field. And I am equally proud of those who loved the experience but their lives led them elsewhere.
In my opinion to educate and enhance a young person's life in a positive way, to be part of a process of mentoring them into the field, and to encourage and support their careers, makes internships as valuable a component of my life as it is to theirs.
Cheers! Dave
David Harvey Senior Conservator and Museum Conservator Los Angeles CA
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Callie Stewart <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Absolutely not!!! I am currently in the process of hiring a summer intern and I expect them to already have relevant experience and a degree. I am more lenient with volunteer interns, but I still expect them to earn their keep and "loving history" is not part of the job description. I learned the hard way that accepting anyone who walks through the door with a "love of art" can end up being a disaster and a waste of everyone's time. That being said, I think that basic intelligence and common sense can be a lot more valuable then specific skills. If you have an intern who can learn to do A,B and C quickly and has good research skills, they can be a lot more useful then one who already knows X,Y and Z, but can't problem solve or think on their feet.
Honestly, I don't care if they stay in the profession or not. Who knows where they're going to end up in life. I wish them all the best, but their life is not my business or my concern. Perhaps your experience will inspire them to become your future big donor. As long as they are satisfied with the experience and the museum gets something useful out of their time, then everybody wins!
What has shocked me is how few applicants (some of them very good and well educated) know how to format a cover letter. It's not hard to Google these things. Why does no one know where to put the date? Or that you are supposed to actually *sign* your name???
Frustrating as it is to devote scarce time and energy to supervising interns who love history but don't plan to stay in the museum field, you might think of it as an investment in future audiences, museum members, board members, and supporters. Easy for me to say, since it's not my investment of time, but I've known some interns through the years who didn't become museum professionals but are fine citizens, nevertheless, and have a good understanding of our field. Ultimately you're weighing the short-term benefit of an intern with the long-term benefits, which you may not reap. But that's true if they go into the museum profession, too.
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I finished my graduate work in the Museum Studies program at the University
of New Hampshire last June, where I was required to complete two
internships. I had some knowledge but little experience. The reason I chose
to go into the field in the first place was because of an internship I
completed as an undergrad at the Rensselaer County Historical Society in
Troy, NY. I was extremely fortunate that my "love of history" was enough to
get me a gig doing a research project for them. I loved it. I went on to
work as a tour guide at small local museums both in NY and NH as I
completed my schooling. My first NH internship was at the American
Independence Museum, another small but fantastic museum where I learned a
LOT - not only about what it was like to create and present programs for
the museum's many audiences, but also that in a small museum, everybody
does a little of everything.
I currently work at another small museum where I am one of four staff
members. The "on-the-job" training I received at AIM and my other
internships certainly helped prepare me for my professional career. There
is just no escaping the fact that there are quite a few unglamorous tasks
that need to be done that are integral to museum operation. I learned that
at my internships. It's good for interns to see this side of museum work.
It's good to see that it's not just playing with fun artifacts all day or
digging your hands into research: it's also taking out the trash, setting
up tables and tents for events, cleaning, etc. (In fact, within my first
month here I had to help dispose of a dead chicken during our summer craft
fair - they don't teach you that in grad school!)
I agree with the others who have chimed in that it takes writing skills,
commitment, basic computer knowledge, etc. But it also takes passion. It's
now my job to manage interns, and I hope I can give to them the same
opportunities I had. I personally don't care at all if they want to go into
the field as long as they're passionate and willing to learn - the things
they learn here can be valuable to them in other areas of their lives. I am
where I am today because someone took a chance on me, and I will always be
deeply thankful for that.
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Adam MacPharlain <
[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Good morning Christa and all,
>
> While I am not in a position to hire or supervise interns, I am an
> emerging museum professional with my internships in the not-so-distant
> past. My undergraduate degree is in Apparel Design, and during my time at
> university I completed two internships: one in the fashion industry of NYC
> and the other at a state historical society working primarily with
> historical costume. I bring this up because, at that time, I was a student
> who "loved history" but had no idea that I would end up in the heritage
> sector.
>
> Some of these interns you are working with may well start off unsure of
> what path they want to take, and yes, some may be there for perceived fun.
> An internship is (or should be) an opportunity to discover and hone our
> passions. If an intern decides that museum work is not for them, so be it.
> My opinion is, if they do the job well during their internship, that's all
> you can ask for.
>
> Hope this is an encouragement to all of you out their supervising interns!
>
> Best,
>
> Adam MacPharlain
> 859.200.2320
> [log in to unmask]
>
>
> *From:* Christa McCay <[log in to unmask]>
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 17, 2012 11:09 AM
>
> *Subject:* [MUSEUM-L] Is a love of history enough for interns?
>
> Hello All,
>
> My question is about interns. After having recently interviewing over 20
> interns for the summer semester (fyi, we are a staff of 4 and will have
> more interns then staff at the Museum this summer), I have begun to feel
> that potential interns think that a love of history is enough to get them a
> position. Is it really enough?
> I have begun to feel that no it?s not. Often times they don?t have the
> experience with basic computer programs or with graphic design programs
> (mainly exhibits and marketing interns). I understand with this economy
> getting an internship and experience is the best for their resume and for
> getting a job after college. Also I understand that people need to start
> their experience somewhere,but most of these students don?t want to be in
> the Museum world when they graduate and often times assume that they will
> get to ?play? with cool artifacts all day. We all know that the truth is,
> there is a lot of paperwork involved with maintaining a collection along
> with data entry, both of which are not glamorous or very exciting.
> I know that our job is to teach interns but like many of us, we are
> juggling multiple tasks to make up for the positions that are currently
> empty and can?t be filled due to budget. Our teaching and training time is
> limited. I do want to have interns with a passion for history but also a
> passion to work in Museums. I sometimes feel like my time was wasted
> trying to teach and train someone who just wanted to do this for fun.
>
> I am sorry if this sounds like whining or sour grapes but I would like to
> know from others if a love of history is enough?
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Christa McCay, M.H.P.
> Registrar
> Marietta Museum of History
> 1 Depot Street, Ste. 200
> Marietta, GA 30060
> 770-794-5726
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I finished my graduate work in the Museum Studies program at the University of New Hampshire last June, where I was required to complete two internships. I had some knowledge but little experience. The reason I chose to go into the field in the first place was because of an internship I completed as an undergrad at the Rensselaer County Historical Society in Troy, NY. I was extremely fortunate that my "love of history" was enough to get me a gig doing a research project for them. I loved it. I went on to work as a tour guide at small local museums both in NY and NH as I completed my schooling. My first NH internship was at the American Independence Museum, another small but fantastic museum where I learned a LOT - not only about what it was like to create and present programs for the museum's many audiences, but also that in a small museum, everybody does a little of everything.
I currently work at another small museum where I am one of four staff members. The "on-the-job" training I received at AIM and my other internships certainly helped prepare me for my professional career. There is just no escaping the fact that there are quite a few unglamorous tasks that need to be done that are integral to museum operation. I learned that at my internships. It's good for interns to see this side of museum work. It's good to see that it's not just playing with fun artifacts all day or digging your hands into research: it's also taking out the trash, setting up tables and tents for events, cleaning, etc. (In fact, within my first month here I had to help dispose of a dead chicken during our summer craft fair - they don't teach you that in grad school!)
I agree with the others who have chimed in that it takes writing skills, commitment, basic computer knowledge, etc. But it also takes passion. It's now my job to manage interns, and I hope I can give to them the same opportunities I had. I personally don't care at all if they want to go into the field as long as they're passionate and willing to learn - the things they learn here can be valuable to them in other areas of their lives. I am where I am today because someone took a chance on me, and I will always be deeply thankful for that.
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Adam MacPharlain <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Good morning Christa and all,
While I am not in a position to hire or supervise interns, I am an emerging museum professional with my internships in the not-so-distant past. My undergraduate degree is in Apparel Design, and during my time at university I completed two internships: one in the fashion industry of NYC and the other at a state historical society working primarily with historical costume. I bring this up because, at that time, I was a student who "loved history" but had no idea that I would end up in the heritage sector.
Some of these interns you are working with may well start off unsure of what path they want to take, and yes, some may be there for perceived fun. An internship is (or should be) an opportunity to discover and hone our passions. If an intern decides that museum work is not for them, so be it. My opinion is, if they do the job well during their internship, that's all you can ask for.
Hope this is an encouragement to all of you out their supervising interns!
Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Is a love of history enough for interns?
Hello All,
My question is about interns. After having recently interviewing over 20 interns for the summer semester (fyi, we are a staff of 4 and will have more interns then staff at the Museum this summer), I have begun to feel
that potential interns think that a love of history is enough to get them a position. Is it really enough? I have begun to feel that no it?s not. Often times they don?t have the experience with basic computer programs or with graphic design programs (mainly exhibits and marketing interns). I understand with this economy getting an internship and experience is the best for their resume and for getting a job after college. Also I understand that people need to start their experience somewhere,but most of these students don?t want to be in the Museum world when they graduate and often times assume that they will get to ?play? with cool artifacts all day. We all know that the truth is, there is a lot of paperwork involved with maintaining a collection along with data entry, both of which are not glamorous or very exciting.
I know that our job is to teach interns but like many of us, we are juggling multiple tasks to make
up for the positions that are currently empty and can?t be filled due to budget. Our teaching and training time is limited. I do want to have interns with a passion for history but also a passion to work in Museums. I sometimes feel like my time was wasted trying to teach and train someone who just wanted to do this for fun.
I am sorry if this sounds like whining or sour grapes but I would like to know from others if a love of history is enough?
Sincerely,
Christa McCay, M.H.P. Registrar Marietta Museum of History
1 Depot Street, Ste. 200 Marietta, GA 30060 770-794-5726
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Good Afternoon Ms. McCay,
Is love enough for marriage? Is love enough for interns? Is love enough for any human endeavor?
The answer is NO.....but, love is most definitely at the top of the list of the necessary attributes that one should bring to the endeavor.
I think we all can agree that there are many other attributes that we want.... and need..... to do ANYTHING well. This includes internships...... or marriages......or even sailing,.... or flying......or golf!
Best Wishes,
Wesley
Wesley S. Creel
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Hello All,
My question is about interns. After having recently interviewing over
20 interns for the summer semester (fyi, we are a staff of 4 and will have more interns then staff at the Museum this summer), I have begun to feel that potential interns think that a love of history is enough to get them a position. Is it really enough?
I have begun to feel that no it?s not. Often times they don?t have the experience with basic computer programs or with graphic design programs (mainly exhibits and marketing interns). I understand with this economy getting an internship and experience is the best for their resume and for getting a job after college. Also I understand that people need to start their experience somewhere,but most of these students don?t want to be in the Museum world when they graduate and often times assume that they will get to ?play? with cool artifacts all day. We all know that the truth is, there is a lot of paperwork involved with maintaining a collection along with data entry, both of which are not glamorous or very exciting.
I know that our job is to teach interns but like many of us, we are juggling multiple tasks to make up for the positions that are currently empty and can?t be filled due to budget. Our teaching and training time is limited. I do want to have interns with a passion for history but also a passion to work in Museums. I sometimes feel like my time was wasted trying to teach and train someone who just wanted to do this for fun.
I am sorry if this sounds like whining or sour grapes but I would like to know from others if a love of history is enough?
Sincerely,
Christa McCay, M.H.P.
Registrar
Marietta Museum of History
1 Depot Street, Ste. 200
Marietta, GA 30060
770-794-5726
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Dear Listers -
Once again I am appealing to your collective knowledge for assistance. I have a question about how to properly house paper objects that are found in historic buildings in our park. On several occasions, we have found caches of objects in building interiors, stuffed behind walls or under floorboards or the like. Most date to the very early 20th century and were in situ until being removed during building renovations in the last few years. A whole variety of material types/objects have been discovered, but the ones I have least familiarity with are works on paper. (As an archaeologist by training and profession, (historic) paper is something I rarely encounter in my work!) The paper objects are predominately hand-written letters, although there are typed forms, printed pamphlets and other ephemera. They have a multitude of condition issues, from dirt to brittleness to folds, although no visible biological issues (no evidence of insects/mold/mildew).
There is a desire on the part of our staff to view the original works, so I'd like to find a storage solution that provides this opportunity with minimal handling of the material. I was thinking something along the lines of clear polyester envelopes that are available from Gaylord and the like, which would allow both sides of the object to be visible without actually having to handle the paper directly. A few specific questions: is inert polyester appropriate for storing poorly preserved but relatively stable paper? Is it okay to store the letters removed from their envelopes and unfolded? (Most have been removed at least once since their discovery as interested staff have read/scanned/transcribed the contents.) Is there anything I can do to gently clean the paper (brushing/blower brush)? And finally, at what point should I consider enlisting the services of a paper conservator?
Many thanks for your input - as always, it is much appreciated.
aloha
~Liz
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Dear Listers –
Once again I am appealing to your collective knowledge for assistance. I have a question about how to properly house paper objects that are found in historic buildings in our park. On several occasions, we have found caches of objects in building interiors, stuffed behind walls or under floorboards or the like. Most date to the very early 20th century and were in situ until being removed during building renovations in the last few years. A whole variety of material types/objects have been discovered, but the ones I have least familiarity with are works on paper. (As an archaeologist by training and profession, (historic) paper is something I rarely encounter in my work!) The paper objects are predominately hand-written letters, although there are typed forms, printed pamphlets and other ephemera. They have a multitude of condition issues, from dirt to brittleness to folds, although no visible biological issues (no evidence of insects/mold/mildew).
There is a desire on the part of our staff to view the original works, so I’d like to find a storage solution that provides this opportunity with minimal handling of the material. I was thinking something along the lines of clear polyester envelopes that are available from Gaylord and the like, which would allow both sides of the object to be visible without actually having to handle the paper directly. A few specific questions: is inert polyester appropriate for storing poorly preserved but relatively stable paper? Is it okay to store the letters removed from their envelopes and unfolded? (Most have been removed at least once since their discovery as interested staff have read/scanned/transcribed the contents.) Is there anything I can do to gently clean the paper (brushing/blower brush)? And finally, at what point should I consider enlisting the services of a paper conservator?
Many thanks for your input – as always, it is much appreciated.
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I think we can all agree that a love for a particular field whether it
be History, Anthropology, Art History or Education is not "enough" and
that other transferable skills are highly desired. As someone who has
personally supervised over 300 high school, undergraduate, graduate and
postgraduate interns, I agree with most of what has already been
expressed. HOWEVER, in response to Adam most museums are not staffed
with folks who have the leisure time to invest in someone who is not
sure about their possible direction. The best internships are achieved
when expectations are clearly articulated on both sides. Even though
the student may not be sure about their career trajectory a bit of
research, an informational interview of someone in the field, a
shadowing experience can help them articulate what they want to learn
and a direction they might want to pursue. In museums we want more than
someone who can just "do the job well" then leave. Maybe it's just me,
but I want to chose someone who may be considering museums as a career
and therefore shows interest and curiosity in their surroundings and
what we have to offer . We are not asking for life-time commitments.
I just interviewed five graduating high school students for a paid
summer internship. They were all bright, enthusiastic, had great
recommendations and were amazing achievers in and outside of school. I
eliminated two because even though they were enthusiastic about the
field they showed no interest in the subject area we covered, were not
sure what they wanted to pursue in college (three or four possibilities
were mentioned) and I truly believe they just wanted it so it would look
good on their resume.
It was a difficult decision for the last three but I chose a candidate
whose interests corresponded to the projects and tasks that I had lined
up for this summer. I realize that being in a larger museum in an urban
area, I can sometimes be more selective but I feel if I invest 50
percent of effort into someone I want to get 100 percent back.
Dawn Scher Thomae
Milwaukee Public Museum
From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
Behalf Of Adam MacPharlain
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 12:03 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Is a love of history enough for interns?
Good morning Christa and all,
While I am not in a position to hire or supervise interns, I am an
emerging museum professional with my internships in the not-so-distant
past. My undergraduate degree is in Apparel Design, and during my time
at university I completed two internships: one in the fashion industry
of NYC and the other at a state historical society working primarily
with historical costume. I bring this up because, at that time, I was a
student who "loved history" but had no idea that I would end up in the
heritage sector.
Some of these interns you are working with may well start off unsure of
what path they want to take, and yes, some may be there for perceived
fun. An internship is (or should be) an opportunity to discover and hone
our passions. If an intern decides that museum work is not for them, so
be it. My opinion is, if they do the job well during their internship,
that's all you can ask for.
Hope this is an encouragement to all of you out their supervising
interns!
Best,
Adam MacPharlain
859.200.2320
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To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 11:09 AM
Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Is a love of history enough for interns?
Hello All,
My question is about interns. After having recently
interviewing over 20 interns for the summer semester (fyi, we are a
staff of 4 and will have more interns then staff at the Museum this
summer), I have begun to feel that potential interns think that a love
of history is enough to get them a position. Is it really enough?
I have begun to feel that no it?s not. Often times they don?t
have the experience with basic computer programs or with graphic design
programs (mainly exhibits and marketing interns). I understand with
this economy getting an internship and experience is the best for their
resume and for getting a job after college. Also I understand that
people need to start their experience somewhere,but most of these
students don?t want to be in the Museum world when they graduate and
often times assume that they will get to ?play? with cool artifacts all
day. We all know that the truth is, there is a lot of paperwork
involved with maintaining a collection along with data entry, both of
which are not glamorous or very exciting.
I know that our job is to teach interns but like many of us, we
are juggling multiple tasks to make up for the positions that are
currently empty and can?t be filled due to budget. Our teaching and
training time is limited. I do want to have interns with a passion for
history but also a passion to work in Museums. I sometimes feel like my
time was wasted trying to teach and train someone who just wanted to do
this for fun.
I am sorry if this sounds like whining or sour grapes but I
would like to know from others if a love of history is enough?
Sincerely,
Christa McCay, M.H.P.
Registrar
Marietta Museum of History
1 Depot Street, Ste. 200
Marietta, GA 30060
770-794-5726
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I think we can all agree that a love for a particular field whether it be History, Anthropology, Art History or Education is not “enough” and that other transferable skills are highly desired. As someone who has personally supervised over 300 high school, undergraduate, graduate and postgraduate interns, I agree with most of what has already been expressed. HOWEVER, in response to Adam most museums are not staffed with folks who have the leisure time to invest in someone who is not sure about their possible direction. The best internships are achieved when expectations are clearly articulated on both sides. Even though the student may not be sure about their career trajectory a bit of research, an informational interview of someone in the field, a shadowing experience can help them articulate what they want to learn and a direction they might want to pursue. In museums we want more than someone who can just “do the job well” then leave. Maybe it’s just me, but I want to chose someone who may be considering museums as a career and therefore shows interest and curiosity in their surroundings and what we have to offer . We are not asking for life-time commitments.
I just interviewed five graduating high school students for a paid summer internship. They were all bright, enthusiastic, had great recommendations and were amazing achievers in and outside of school. I eliminated two because even though they were enthusiastic about the field they showed no interest in the subject area we covered, were not sure what they wanted to pursue in college (three or four possibilities were mentioned) and I truly believe they just wanted it so it would look good on their resume.
It was a difficult decision for the last three but I chose a candidate whose interests corresponded to the projects and tasks that I had lined up for this summer. I realize that being in a larger museum in an urban area, I can sometimes be more selective but I feel if I invest 50 percent of effort into someone I want to get 100 percent back.
Dawn Scher Thomae
Milwaukee Public Museum
From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Adam MacPharlain Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 12:03 PM To:[log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Is a love of history enough for interns?
Good morning Christa and all,
While I am not in a position to hire or supervise interns, I am an emerging museum professional with my internships in the not-so-distant past. My undergraduate degree is in Apparel Design, and during my time at university I completed two internships: one in the fashion industry of NYC and the other at a state historical society working primarily with historical costume. I bring this up because, at that time, I was a student who "loved history" but had no idea that I would end up in the heritage sector.
Some of these interns you are working with may well start off unsure of what path they want to take, and yes, some may be there for perceived fun. An internship is (or should be) an opportunity to discover and hone our passions. If an intern decides that museum work is not for them, so be it. My opinion is, if they do the job well during their internship, that's all you can ask for.
Hope this is an encouragement to all of you out their supervising interns!
From: Christa McCay <[log in to unmask]> To:[log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 11:09 AM Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Is a love of history enough for interns?
Hello All,
My question is about interns. After having recently interviewing over 20 interns for the summer semester (fyi, we are a staff of 4 and will have more interns then staff at the Museum this summer), I have begun to feel that potential interns think that a love of history is enough to get them a position. Is it really enough? I have begun to feel that no it?s not. Often times they don?t have the experience with basic computer programs or with graphic design programs (mainly exhibits and marketing interns). I understand with this economy getting an internship and experience is the best for their resume and for getting a job after college. Also I understand that people need to start their experience somewhere,but most of these students don?t want to be in the Museum world when they graduate and often times assume that they will get to ?play? with cool artifacts all day. We all know that the truth is, there is a lot of paperwork involved with maintaining a collection along with data entry, both of which are not glamorous or very exciting. I know that our job is to teach interns but like many of us, we are juggling multiple tasks to make up for the positions that are currently empty and can?t be filled due to budget. Our teaching and training time is limited. I do want to have interns with a passion for history but also a passion to work in Museums. I sometimes feel like my time was wasted trying to teach and train someone who just wanted to do this for fun.
I am sorry if this sounds like whining or sour grapes but I would like to know from others if a love of history is enough?
Sincerely,
Christa McCay, M.H.P. Registrar Marietta Museum of History 1 Depot Street, Ste. 200 Marietta, GA 30060 770-794-5726
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A love of history/art is a great start, but cannot be all that an intern
brings. They also have to help you accomplish something while learning.
Basic computer skills are not a hefty requirement, these days 11 and 12
year olds can type and know how to use basic computer functions and
concepts. Even if you do have an intern with exceptional computer skills,
they have to learn the hows and whys of YOUR museum. The last thing you
want is an intern who decides to do database entries in their own way.
Internships carry a balance of teaching skills and giving realistic
expectations. We don't necessarily want to crush their dreams, but some
dreams are fairy tales and a dose of realism is a good thing.
I have worked with and trained many many interns, and at their core, no
matter what they know coming in, what made the difference and made me love
some and want to strangle others, was the willingness to learn the hows and
whys, the willingness to ask questions, and the willingness to do it right
the first time, as instructed (so I don't have to go back and re-inventory
thousands of artifacts where they failed to actually look IN the boxes when
checking off that artifacts were there... note: I was not the supervisor of
THOSE interns)
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:44 PM, David Harvey <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I have to say that selecting and supervising an internship is very
> different than hiring someone for a staff position.
>
> Frankly it is illegal to use interns as you do other workers. An
> educational component is required. This hit the news almost two years ago
> where audits by the IRS had turned up abuses in the use of interns in
> for-profit and non-profit organizations.
>
> So why are some out there looking for interns who already have the skills
> they would require for a staff job? An internship is about developing those
> skills and in continuing their education with experience so that they can
> get a staff job in the field after the internship.
>
> I agree that general and critical thinking skills are needed and that
> those, along with communication and people skills, may be more valuable
> than previous specific experience.
>
> Over the years I have had many interns who I selected to work for me in a
> museum and a regional conservation lab. These ranged from those who were
> getting their BA to those who were post graduate interns aspiring for staff
> positions after the internship. I always looked for the love or enthusiasm
> of the field (including History, Art, and Science) along with writing and
> critical thinking skills. And since this was a conservation lab internship
> demonstrated hand skills were essential.
>
> Yes, the interns I had did a lot of the basic work we had to do, but I
> always made sure that they had time to be involved and to get to know the
> wider activities of the museum, they were assigned a minimum of one project
> where they were required to do research and write an article or paper about
> their project. We also spent time to help them understand what a career in
> the field consisted of. I am proud that many of my interns went on to
> graduate school and also important positions in the field. And I am equally
> proud of those who loved the experience but their lives led them elsewhere.
>
> In my opinion to educate and enhance a young person's life in a positive
> way, to be part of a process of mentoring them into the field, and to
> encourage and support their careers, makes internships as valuable a
> component of my life as it is to theirs.
>
> Cheers!
> Dave
>
> David Harvey
> Senior Conservator and Museum Conservator
> Los Angeles CA
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Callie Stewart <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Absolutely not!!! I am currently in the process of hiring a summer
>> intern and I expect them to already have relevant experience and a degree.
>> I am more lenient with volunteer interns, but I still expect them to earn
>> their keep and "loving history" is not part of the job description. I
>> learned the hard way that accepting anyone who walks through the door with
>> a "love of art" can end up being a disaster and a waste of everyone's time.
>> That being said, I think that basic intelligence and common sense can be a
>> lot more valuable then specific skills. If you have an intern who can
>> learn to do A,B and C quickly and has good research skills, they can be a
>> lot more useful then one who already knows X,Y and Z, but can't problem
>> solve or think on their feet.
>>
>> Honestly, I don't care if they stay in the profession or not. Who knows
>> where they're going to end up in life. I wish them all the best, but their
>> life is not my business or my concern. Perhaps your experience will
>> inspire them to become your future big donor. As long as they are
>> satisfied with the experience and the museum gets something useful out of
>> their time, then everybody wins!
>>
>> What has shocked me is how few applicants (some of them very good and
>> well educated) know how to format a cover letter. It's not hard to Google
>> these things. Why does no one know where to put the date? Or that you are
>> supposed to actually *sign* your name???
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Fox, Amy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> Frustrating as it is to devote scarce time and energy to supervising
>>> interns who love history but don't plan to stay in the museum field, you
>>> might think of it as an investment in future audiences, museum members,
>>> board members, and supporters. Easy for me to say, since it's not my
>>> investment of time, but I've known some interns through the years who
>>> didn't become museum professionals but are fine citizens, nevertheless, and
>>> have a good understanding of our field. Ultimately you're weighing the
>>> short-term benefit of an intern with the long-term benefits, which you may
>>> not reap. But that's true if they go into the museum profession, too.
>>>
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>
>>> Amy Killpatrick Fox
>>> Museum Educator
>>> Bureau of Historic Sites & Museums, PHMC
>>> Commonwealth Keystone Building
>>> 400 North St.
>>> Harrisburg, PA 17120
>>> 717/772-1967
>>> Website: www.patrailsofhistory.com
>>> Blog: Trailheads--http://patrailheads.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> Notice: On **Friday, July 29th**, the commonwealth will be adding @
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A love of history/art is a great start, but cannot be all that an intern brings. They also have to help you accomplish something while learning. Basic computer skills are not a hefty requirement, these days 11 and 12 year olds can type and know how to use basic computer functions and concepts. Even if you do have an intern with exceptional computer skills, they have to learn the hows and whys of YOUR museum. The last thing you want is an intern who decides to do database entries in their own way.
Internships carry a balance of teaching skills and giving realistic expectations. We don't necessarily want to crush their dreams, but some dreams are fairy tales and a dose of realism is a good thing.
I have worked with and trained many many interns, and at their core, no matter what they know coming in, what made the difference and made me love some and want to strangle others, was the willingness to learn the hows and whys, the willingness to ask questions, and the willingness to do it right the first time, as instructed (so I don't have to go back and re-inventory thousands of artifacts where they failed to actually look IN the boxes when checking off that artifacts were there... note: I was not the supervisor of THOSE interns)
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:44 PM, David Harvey <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I have to say that selecting and supervising an internship is very different than hiring someone for a staff position.
Frankly it is illegal to use interns as you do other workers. An educational component is required. This hit the news almost two years ago where audits by the IRS had turned up abuses in the use of interns in for-profit and non-profit organizations.
So why are some out there looking for interns who already have the skills they would require for a staff job? An internship is about developing those skills and in continuing their education with experience so that they can get a staff job in the field after the internship.
I agree that general and critical thinking skills are needed and that those, along with communication and people skills, may be more valuable than previous specific experience.
Over the years I have had many interns who I selected to work for me in a museum and a regional conservation lab. These ranged from those who were getting their BA to those who were post graduate interns aspiring for staff positions after the internship. I always looked for the love or enthusiasm of the field (including History, Art, and Science) along with writing and critical thinking skills. And since this was a conservation lab internship demonstrated hand skills were essential.
Yes, the interns I had did a lot of the basic work we had to do, but I always made sure that they had time to be involved and to get to know the wider activities of the museum, they were assigned a minimum of one project where they were required to do research and write an article or paper about their project. We also spent time to help them understand what a career in the field consisted of. I am proud that many of my interns went on to graduate school and also important positions in the field. And I am equally proud of those who loved the experience but their lives led them elsewhere.
In my opinion to educate and enhance a young person's life in a positive way, to be part of a process of mentoring them into the field, and to encourage and support their careers, makes internships as valuable a component of my life as it is to theirs.
Cheers! Dave
David Harvey Senior Conservator and Museum Conservator Los Angeles CA
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Callie Stewart <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Absolutely not!!! I am currently in the process of hiring a summer intern and I expect them to already have relevant experience and a degree. I am more lenient with volunteer interns, but I still expect them to earn their keep and "loving history" is not part of the job description. I learned the hard way that accepting anyone who walks through the door with a "love of art" can end up being a disaster and a waste of everyone's time. That being said, I think that basic intelligence and common sense can be a lot more valuable then specific skills. If you have an intern who can learn to do A,B and C quickly and has good research skills, they can be a lot more useful then one who already knows X,Y and Z, but can't problem solve or think on their feet.
Honestly, I don't care if they stay in the profession or not. Who knows where they're going to end up in life. I wish them all the best, but their life is not my business or my concern. Perhaps your experience will inspire them to become your future big donor. As long as they are satisfied with the experience and the museum gets something useful out of their time, then everybody wins!
What has shocked me is how few applicants (some of them very good and well educated) know how to format a cover letter. It's not hard to Google these things. Why does no one know where to put the date? Or that you are supposed to actually *sign* your name???
Frustrating as it is to devote scarce time and energy to supervising interns who love history but don't plan to stay in the museum field, you might think of it as an investment in future audiences, museum members, board members, and supporters. Easy for me to say, since it's not my investment of time, but I've known some interns through the years who didn't become museum professionals but are fine citizens, nevertheless, and have a good understanding of our field. Ultimately you're weighing the short-term benefit of an intern with the long-term benefits, which you may not reap. But that's true if they go into the museum profession, too.
Notice: On **Friday, July 29th**, the commonwealth will be adding @pa.gov as the primary email domain for all state employees. For example: [log in to unmask] will now be [log in to unmask]. The email addresses ending in @state.pa.us will continue to function so that emails will never be interrupted. We appreciate your cooperation as we take a small step to increase the usability and consistency of the commonwealth's online communications.
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Hillwood Estate, Museum & Gardens, Summer Collections Management Internship
About Hillwood
Founded by American collector and heiress to the Post cereal empire Marjorie Merriweather Post, Hillwood Estate, Museum & Gardens is one of the premier art collector's museums in the United States. The museum features the most comprehensive collection of Russian imperial art outside of Russia and a world-renowned collection of eighteenth-century French decorative art and furnishings. The collection contains significant holdings in the areas of furniture, porcelain, textiles, metalwork and paintings including Fabergé eggs, Russian porcelain, Russian Orthodox icons, Beauvais tapestries, and Sèvres. Other collections include costumes and material culture artifacts and memorabilia related to Mrs. Post.
Internship Tasks
The collections intern will work with the Registrar to:
· Accession and catalog the museum's material culture collection in anticipation of a new exhibition. Provides an opportunity to work hands on with the collection. Tasks including accessioning, object marking, photography, cataloging, condition reporting, re-housing, and database entry.
· Assist in the conversion to a new database including data entry and cleanup, and working with curators to improve cataloging standards and data.
· Assist in the day to day tasks of the registrar's office as needed.
· Potential to assist in the installation of an exhibition opening in June and in other aspects of the museum's active loans and exhibitions programs.
Experience/Skills
Candidates should be currently enrolled in or should have recently finished a museum-related graduate program, and possess an interest in collections/registration work. Previous experience with databases and object handling are a plus. Coursework in collections management a plus.
Duration/Pay
Internships are part-time up to 4 days per week. This internship position is for college credit only.
Application Process
Please email cover letter and resume to [log in to unmask]
MJ Meredith
Registrar
Hillwood Estate, Museum & Gardens
4155 Linnean Avenue, NW
Washington, DC 20008
www.hillwoodmuseum.org
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Hillwood Estate, Museum & Gardens, Summer Collections Management Internship
About Hillwood
Founded by American collector and heiress to the Post cereal empire Marjorie Merriweather Post, Hillwood Estate, Museum & Gardens is one of the premier art collector's museums in the United States. The museum features the most comprehensive collection of Russian imperial art outside of Russia and a world-renowned collection of eighteenth-century French decorative art and furnishings. The collection contains significant holdings in the areas of furniture, porcelain, textiles, metalwork and paintings including Fabergé eggs, Russian porcelain, Russian Orthodox icons, Beauvais tapestries, and Sèvres. Other collections include costumes and material culture artifacts and memorabilia related to Mrs. Post.
Internship Tasks
The collections intern will work with the Registrar to:
·Accession and catalog the museum’s material culture collection in anticipation of a new exhibition. Provides an opportunity to work hands on with the collection. Tasks including accessioning, object marking, photography, cataloging, condition reporting, re-housing, and database entry.
·Assist in the conversion to a new database including data entry and cleanup, and working with curators to improve cataloging standards and data.
·Assist in the day to day tasks of the registrar’s office as needed.
·Potential to assist in the installation of an exhibition opening in June and in other aspects of the museum’s active loans and exhibitions programs.
Experience/Skills
Candidates should be currently enrolled in or should have recently finished a museum-related graduate program, and possess an interest in collections/registration work. Previous experience with databases and object handling are a plus. Coursework in collections management a plus.
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I've recently realized something about interns - I know this sounds a little
odd, but it actually takes confidence to ask questions. "Is this the way you
want it?" "Am I doing this right?" "Is the information I should be looking
for?" takes a lot of guts. And those are the interns I think not only
succeed in having excellent experiences in their internships, but have a
better chance at their careers.
Candace Perry
_____
From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of Elizabeth Walton
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:05 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Is a love of history enough for interns?
A love of history/art is a great start, but cannot be all that an intern
brings. They also have to help you accomplish something while learning.
Basic computer skills are not a hefty requirement, these days 11 and 12 year
olds can type and know how to use basic computer functions and concepts.
Even if you do have an intern with exceptional computer skills, they have to
learn the hows and whys of YOUR museum. The last thing you want is an intern
who decides to do database entries in their own way.
Internships carry a balance of teaching skills and giving realistic
expectations. We don't necessarily want to crush their dreams, but some
dreams are fairy tales and a dose of realism is a good thing.
I have worked with and trained many many interns, and at their core, no
matter what they know coming in, what made the difference and made me love
some and want to strangle others, was the willingness to learn the hows and
whys, the willingness to ask questions, and the willingness to do it right
the first time, as instructed (so I don't have to go back and re-inventory
thousands of artifacts where they failed to actually look IN the boxes when
checking off that artifacts were there... note: I was not the supervisor of
THOSE interns)
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:44 PM, David Harvey <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I have to say that selecting and supervising an internship is very different
than hiring someone for a staff position.
Frankly it is illegal to use interns as you do other workers. An educational
component is required. This hit the news almost two years ago where audits
by the IRS had turned up abuses in the use of interns in for-profit and
non-profit organizations.
So why are some out there looking for interns who already have the skills
they would require for a staff job? An internship is about developing those
skills and in continuing their education with experience so that they can
get a staff job in the field after the internship.
I agree that general and critical thinking skills are needed and that those,
along with communication and people skills, may be more valuable than
previous specific experience.
Over the years I have had many interns who I selected to work for me in a
museum and a regional conservation lab. These ranged from those who were
getting their BA to those who were post graduate interns aspiring for staff
positions after the internship. I always looked for the love or enthusiasm
of the field (including History, Art, and Science) along with writing and
critical thinking skills. And since this was a conservation lab internship
demonstrated hand skills were essential.
Yes, the interns I had did a lot of the basic work we had to do, but I
always made sure that they had time to be involved and to get to know the
wider activities of the museum, they were assigned a minimum of one project
where they were required to do research and write an article or paper about
their project. We also spent time to help them understand what a career in
the field consisted of. I am proud that many of my interns went on to
graduate school and also important positions in the field. And I am equally
proud of those who loved the experience but their lives led them elsewhere.
In my opinion to educate and enhance a young person's life in a positive
way, to be part of a process of mentoring them into the field, and to
encourage and support their careers, makes internships as valuable a
component of my life as it is to theirs.
Cheers!
Dave
David Harvey
Senior Conservator and Museum Conservator
Los Angeles CA
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Callie Stewart
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Absolutely not!!! I am currently in the process of hiring a summer intern
and I expect them to already have relevant experience and a degree. I am
more lenient with volunteer interns, but I still expect them to earn their
keep and "loving history" is not part of the job description. I learned the
hard way that accepting anyone who walks through the door with a "love of
art" can end up being a disaster and a waste of everyone's time. That being
said, I think that basic intelligence and common sense can be a lot more
valuable then specific skills. If you have an intern who can learn to do
A,B and C quickly and has good research skills, they can be a lot more
useful then one who already knows X,Y and Z, but can't problem solve or
think on their feet.
Honestly, I don't care if they stay in the profession or not. Who knows
where they're going to end up in life. I wish them all the best, but their
life is not my business or my concern. Perhaps your experience will inspire
them to become your future big donor. As long as they are satisfied with
the experience and the museum gets something useful out of their time, then
everybody wins!
What has shocked me is how few applicants (some of them very good and well
educated) know how to format a cover letter. It's not hard to Google these
things. Why does no one know where to put the date? Or that you are
supposed to actually *sign* your name???
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Fox, Amy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Frustrating as it is to devote scarce time and energy to supervising interns
who love history but don't plan to stay in the museum field, you might think
of it as an investment in future audiences, museum members, board members,
and supporters. Easy for me to say, since it's not my investment of time,
but I've known some interns through the years who didn't become museum
professionals but are fine citizens, nevertheless, and have a good
understanding of our field. Ultimately you're weighing the short-term
benefit of an intern with the long-term benefits, which you may not reap.
But that's true if they go into the museum profession, too.
[log in to unmask]
Amy Killpatrick Fox
Museum Educator
Bureau of Historic Sites & Museums, PHMC
Commonwealth Keystone Building
400 North St.
Harrisburg, PA 17120
717/772-1967
Website: www.patrailsofhistory.com
Blog: Trailheads--http://patrailheads.blogspot.com
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I’ve recently realized something
about interns – I know this sounds a little odd, but it actually takes
confidence to ask questions. “Is this the way you want it?” “Am
I doing this right?” “Is the information I should be looking for?”
takes a lot of guts. And those are the interns I think not only succeed in
having excellent experiences in their internships, but have a better chance at
their careers.
Candace Perry
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PM To:[log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Is a love
of history enough for interns?
A love of history/art is a great start, but cannot be all that an
intern brings. They also have to help you accomplish something while learning.
Basic computer skills are not a hefty requirement, these days 11 and 12 year
olds can type and know how to use basic computer functions and concepts. Even
if you do have an intern with exceptional computer skills, they have to learn
the hows and whys of YOUR museum. The last thing you want is an intern who
decides to do database entries in their own way.
Internships carry a balance of teaching skills and giving realistic
expectations. We don't necessarily want to crush their dreams, but some dreams
are fairy tales and a dose of realism is a good thing.
I have worked with and trained many many interns, and at their core, no
matter what they know coming in, what made the difference and made me love some
and want to strangle others, was the willingness to learn the hows and whys,
the willingness to ask questions, and the willingness to do it right the first
time, as instructed (so I don't have to go back and re-inventory thousands of
artifacts where they failed to actually look IN the boxes when checking off
that artifacts were there... note: I was not the supervisor of THOSE interns)
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:44 PM, David Harvey <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I have to say that selecting and supervising an internship is very
different than hiring someone for a staff position.
Frankly it is illegal to use interns as you do other workers. An educational
component is required. This hit the news almost two years ago where audits by
the IRS had turned up abuses in the use of interns in for-profit and non-profit
organizations.
So why are some out there looking for interns who already have the skills they
would require for a staff job? An internship is about developing those skills
and in continuing their education with experience so that they can get a staff
job in the field after the internship.
I agree that general and critical thinking skills are needed and that those,
along with communication and people skills, may be more valuable than previous
specific experience.
Over the years I have had many interns who I selected to work for me in a
museum and a regional conservation lab. These ranged from those who were
getting their BA to those who were post graduate interns aspiring for staff
positions after the internship. I always looked for the love or enthusiasm of
the field (including History, Art, and Science) along with writing and critical
thinking skills. And since this was a conservation lab internship demonstrated
hand skills were essential.
Yes, the interns I had did a lot of the basic work we had to do, but I always
made sure that they had time to be involved and to get to know the wider
activities of the museum, they were assigned a minimum of one project where
they were required to do research and write an article or paper about their
project. We also spent time to help them understand what a career in the field
consisted of. I am proud that many of my interns went on to graduate school and
also important positions in the field. And I am equally proud of those who
loved the experience but their lives led them elsewhere.
In my opinion to educate and enhance a young person's life in a positive way,
to be part of a process of mentoring them into the field, and to encourage and
support their careers, makes internships as valuable a component of my life as
it is to theirs.
Cheers!
Dave
David Harvey Senior Conservator and Museum Conservator Los AngelesCA
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Callie Stewart <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
Absolutely not!!! I am currently in the process of hiring a
summer intern and I expect them to already have relevant experience
and a degree. I am more lenient with volunteer interns, but I still
expect them to earn their keep and "loving history" is not part of
the job description. I learned the hard way that accepting anyone who
walks through the door with a "love of art" can end up being a
disaster and a waste of everyone's time. That being said, I think that
basic intelligence and common sense can be a lot more valuable then specific
skills. If you have an intern who can learn to do A,B and C quickly and
has good research skills, they can be a lot more useful then one who already
knows X,Y and Z, but can't problem solve or think on their feet.
Honestly, I don't care if they stay in the profession or not. Who
knows where they're going to end up in life. I wish them all the best,
but their life is not my business or my concern. Perhaps your experience
will inspire them to become your future big donor. As long as they are
satisfied with the experience and the museum gets something useful out of their
time, then everybody wins!
What has shocked me is
how few applicants (some of them very good and well educated) know how to
format a cover letter. It's not hard to Google these things. Why
does no one know where to put the date? Or that you are supposed to actually
*sign* your name???
Frustrating as it is to devote scarce time and energy to supervising
interns who love history but don't plan to stay in the museum field, you might
think of it as an investment in future audiences, museum members, board
members, and supporters. Easy for me to say, since it's not my investment of
time, but I've known some interns through the years who didn't become museum
professionals but are fine citizens, nevertheless, and have a good
understanding of our field. Ultimately you're weighing the short-term benefit
of an intern with the long-term benefits, which you may not reap. But that's
true if they go into the museum profession, too.
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This is a great conversation!
I'd also like to make a case as recognizing interns as an important component of our education/community outreach as museums. In my mind, interns represent another audience that we serve. It's an interesting situation, because we are getting something from them (i.e., the work they are doing for us), but it's also something I discuss with donors, or mention in our community publications, as a way that we as an organization are being of service to others. Through our internship program, we are providing an educational experience in which potential young professionals are learning more about the work we do, about the workplace generally, and are thinking about how they can apply their experiences at our organization (for better or for worse) into a deeper understanding of the career they envision for themselves. They won't all go into the museum field, and maybe that's a good thing: it helps those individuals recognize that line of work isn't right for them. But as others on this listserv have mentioned, we can hope that they will become (or continue to be) patrons and audiences of museums, even if it's not the career they're meant for.
Does this mean that, when you come down to the two applicants, one with love + experience, one with just love, you don't go with experience? Probably not. After all, as others have mentioned, more and more applicants are looking for internships, and we can't accept everyone. But perhaps this is an opportunity for museums to look at ways that we can open ourselves up to a broader approach of involving people throughout operations, and in a variety of capacities, so that we can provide a chance for people to build their experience, making them more eligible for such an internship. This might include making volunteer opportunities more meaningful. Offering volunteer opportunities for teens. Holding museum career exploration days to allow high school students a chance to get behind-the-scenes and understand what it takes to work at a museum. I don't think any of us want to keep people from interning; we just have to be realistic about how much time we can invest in this program. And maybe we need to think about making smaller investments earlier on so we can be a greater resource for more people.
Most sincerely,
Margaret
Margaret Hughes | Director of Educational Initiatives
Bethel Woods Center for the Arts
At the site of the 1969 Woodstock festival.
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From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Candace Perry
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Is a love of history enough for interns?
I've recently realized something about interns - I know this sounds a little odd, but it actually takes confidence to ask questions. "Is this the way you want it?" "Am I doing this right?" "Is the information I should be looking for?" takes a lot of guts. And those are the interns I think not only succeed in having excellent experiences in their internships, but have a better chance at their careers.
Candace Perry
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From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Walton
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:05 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Is a love of history enough for interns?
A love of history/art is a great start, but cannot be all that an intern brings. They also have to help you accomplish something while learning. Basic computer skills are not a hefty requirement, these days 11 and 12 year olds can type and know how to use basic computer functions and concepts. Even if you do have an intern with exceptional computer skills, they have to learn the hows and whys of YOUR museum. The last thing you want is an intern who decides to do database entries in their own way.
Internships carry a balance of teaching skills and giving realistic expectations. We don't necessarily want to crush their dreams, but some dreams are fairy tales and a dose of realism is a good thing.
I have worked with and trained many many interns, and at their core, no matter what they know coming in, what made the difference and made me love some and want to strangle others, was the willingness to learn the hows and whys, the willingness to ask questions, and the willingness to do it right the first time, as instructed (so I don't have to go back and re-inventory thousands of artifacts where they failed to actually look IN the boxes when checking off that artifacts were there... note: I was not the supervisor of THOSE interns)
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:44 PM, David Harvey <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I have to say that selecting and supervising an internship is very different than hiring someone for a staff position.
Frankly it is illegal to use interns as you do other workers. An educational component is required. This hit the news almost two years ago where audits by the IRS had turned up abuses in the use of interns in for-profit and non-profit organizations.
So why are some out there looking for interns who already have the skills they would require for a staff job? An internship is about developing those skills and in continuing their education with experience so that they can get a staff job in the field after the internship.
I agree that general and critical thinking skills are needed and that those, along with communication and people skills, may be more valuable than previous specific experience.
Over the years I have had many interns who I selected to work for me in a museum and a regional conservation lab. These ranged from those who were getting their BA to those who were post graduate interns aspiring for staff positions after the internship. I always looked for the love or enthusiasm of the field (including History, Art, and Science) along with writing and critical thinking skills. And since this was a conservation lab internship demonstrated hand skills were essential.
Yes, the interns I had did a lot of the basic work we had to do, but I always made sure that they had time to be involved and to get to know the wider activities of the museum, they were assigned a minimum of one project where they were required to do research and write an article or paper about their project. We also spent time to help them understand what a career in the field consisted of. I am proud that many of my interns went on to graduate school and also important positions in the field. And I am equally proud of those who loved the experience but their lives led them elsewhere.
In my opinion to educate and enhance a young person's life in a positive way, to be part of a process of mentoring them into the field, and to encourage and support their careers, makes internships as valuable a component of my life as it is to theirs.
Cheers!
Dave
David Harvey
Senior Conservator and Museum Conservator
Los Angeles CA
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Callie Stewart <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Absolutely not!!! I am currently in the process of hiring a summer intern and I expect them to already have relevant experience and a degree. I am more lenient with volunteer interns, but I still expect them to earn their keep and "loving history" is not part of the job description. I learned the hard way that accepting anyone who walks through the door with a "love of art" can end up being a disaster and a waste of everyone's time. That being said, I think that basic intelligence and common sense can be a lot more valuable then specific skills. If you have an intern who can learn to do A,B and C quickly and has good research skills, they can be a lot more useful then one who already knows X,Y and Z, but can't problem solve or think on their feet.
Honestly, I don't care if they stay in the profession or not. Who knows where they're going to end up in life. I wish them all the best, but their life is not my business or my concern. Perhaps your experience will inspire them to become your future big donor. As long as they are satisfied with the experience and the museum gets something useful out of their time, then everybody wins!
What has shocked me is how few applicants (some of them very good and well educated) know how to format a cover letter. It's not hard to Google these things. Why does no one know where to put the date? Or that you are supposed to actually *sign* your name???
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Fox, Amy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Frustrating as it is to devote scarce time and energy to supervising interns who love history but don't plan to stay in the museum field, you might think of it as an investment in future audiences, museum members, board members, and supporters. Easy for me to say, since it's not my investment of time, but I've known some interns through the years who didn't become museum professionals but are fine citizens, nevertheless, and have a good understanding of our field. Ultimately you're weighing the short-term benefit of an intern with the long-term benefits, which you may not reap. But that's true if they go into the museum profession, too.
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This is a great conversation!
I’d also like to make a case as recognizing interns as an important component of our education/community outreach as museums. In my mind, interns represent another audience that we serve. It’s an interesting situation, because we are getting something from them (i.e., the work they are doing for us), but it’s also something I discuss with donors, or mention in our community publications, as a way that we as an organization are being of service to others. Through our internship program, we are providing an educational experience in which potential young professionals are learning more about the work we do, about the workplace generally, and are thinking about how they can apply their experiences at our organization (for better or for worse) into a deeper understanding of the career they envision for themselves. They won’t all go into the museum field, and maybe that’s a good thing: it helps those individuals recognize that line of work isn’t right for them. But as others on this listserv have mentioned, we can hope that they will become (or continue to be) patrons and audiences of museums, even if it’s not the career they’re meant for.
Does this mean that, when you come down to the two applicants, one with love + experience, one with just love, you don’t go with experience? Probably not. After all, as others have mentioned, more and more applicants are looking for internships, and we can’t accept everyone. But perhaps this is an opportunity for museums to look at ways that we can open ourselves up to a broader approach of involving people throughout operations, and in a variety of capacities, so that we can provide a chance for people to build their experience, making them more eligible for such an internship. This might include making volunteer opportunities more meaningful. Offering volunteer opportunities for teens. Holding museum career exploration days to allow high school students a chance to get behind-the-scenes and understand what it takes to work at a museum. I don’t think any of us want to keep people from interning; we just have to be realistic about how much time we can invest in this program. And maybe we need to think about making smaller investments earlier on so we can be a greater resource for more people.
Most sincerely,
Margaret
Margaret Hughes | Director of Educational Initiatives
Bethel Woods Center for the Arts
At the site of the 1969 Woodstock festival.
Music and History Play On.
(:: 845.583.2097 | fax 845.295.2444 *:: One Cablevision Center, PO Box 222 | Liberty, NY | 12754
Bethel Woods is a not-for-profit cultural center located at the site of the 1969 Woodstock festival.
*Make a donation today to support our mission. Visit Support Bethel Woods to learn more.
From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Candace Perry Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:24 PM To:[log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Is a love of history enough for interns?
I’ve recently realized something about interns – I know this sounds a little odd, but it actually takes confidence to ask questions. “Is this the way you want it?” “Am I doing this right?” “Is the information I should be looking for?” takes a lot of guts. And those are the interns I think not only succeed in having excellent experiences in their internships, but have a better chance at their careers.
Candace Perry
From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Walton Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 2:05 PM To:[log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Is a love of history enough for interns?
A love of history/art is a great start, but cannot be all that an intern brings. They also have to help you accomplish something while learning. Basic computer skills are not a hefty requirement, these days 11 and 12 year olds can type and know how to use basic computer functions and concepts. Even if you do have an intern with exceptional computer skills, they have to learn the hows and whys of YOUR museum. The last thing you want is an intern who decides to do database entries in their own way.
Internships carry a balance of teaching skills and giving realistic expectations. We don't necessarily want to crush their dreams, but some dreams are fairy tales and a dose of realism is a good thing.
I have worked with and trained many many interns, and at their core, no matter what they know coming in, what made the difference and made me love some and want to strangle others, was the willingness to learn the hows and whys, the willingness to ask questions, and the willingness to do it right the first time, as instructed (so I don't have to go back and re-inventory thousands of artifacts where they failed to actually look IN the boxes when checking off that artifacts were there... note: I was not the supervisor of THOSE interns)
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 1:44 PM, David Harvey <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I have to say that selecting and supervising an internship is very different than hiring someone for a staff position.
Frankly it is illegal to use interns as you do other workers. An educational component is required. This hit the news almost two years ago where audits by the IRS had turned up abuses in the use of interns in for-profit and non-profit organizations.
So why are some out there looking for interns who already have the skills they would require for a staff job? An internship is about developing those skills and in continuing their education with experience so that they can get a staff job in the field after the internship.
I agree that general and critical thinking skills are needed and that those, along with communication and people skills, may be more valuable than previous specific experience.
Over the years I have had many interns who I selected to work for me in a museum and a regional conservation lab. These ranged from those who were getting their BA to those who were post graduate interns aspiring for staff positions after the internship. I always looked for the love or enthusiasm of the field (including History, Art, and Science) along with writing and critical thinking skills. And since this was a conservation lab internship demonstrated hand skills were essential.
Yes, the interns I had did a lot of the basic work we had to do, but I always made sure that they had time to be involved and to get to know the wider activities of the museum, they were assigned a minimum of one project where they were required to do research and write an article or paper about their project. We also spent time to help them understand what a career in the field consisted of. I am proud that many of my interns went on to graduate school and also important positions in the field. And I am equally proud of those who loved the experience but their lives led them elsewhere.
In my opinion to educate and enhance a young person's life in a positive way, to be part of a process of mentoring them into the field, and to encourage and support their careers, makes internships as valuable a component of my life as it is to theirs.
Cheers! Dave
David Harvey Senior Conservator and Museum Conservator Los Angeles CA
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Callie Stewart <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Absolutely not!!! I am currently in the process of hiring a summer intern and I expect them to already have relevant experience and a degree. I am more lenient with volunteer interns, but I still expect them to earn their keep and "loving history" is not part of the job description. I learned the hard way that accepting anyone who walks through the door with a "love of art" can end up being a disaster and a waste of everyone's time. That being said, I think that basic intelligence and common sense can be a lot more valuable then specific skills. If you have an intern who can learn to do A,B and C quickly and has good research skills, they can be a lot more useful then one who already knows X,Y and Z, but can't problem solve or think on their feet.
Honestly, I don't care if they stay in the profession or not. Who knows where they're going to end up in life. I wish them all the best, but their life is not my business or my concern. Perhaps your experience will inspire them to become your future big donor. As long as they are satisfied with the experience and the museum gets something useful out of their time, then everybody wins!
What has shocked me is how few applicants (some of them very good and well educated) know how to format a cover letter. It's not hard to Google these things. Why does no one know where to put the date? Or that you are supposed to actually *sign* your name???
Frustrating as it is to devote scarce time and energy to supervising interns who love history but don't plan to stay in the museum field, you might think of it as an investment in future audiences, museum members, board members, and supporters. Easy for me to say, since it's not my investment of time, but I've known some interns through the years who didn't become museum professionals but are fine citizens, nevertheless, and have a good understanding of our field. Ultimately you're weighing the short-term benefit of an intern with the long-term benefits, which you may not reap. But that's true if they go into the museum profession, too.
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I would suggest you enlist the services of a paper conservator before you do anything else. Unless you are a trained paper conservator, there is little you can do to better the condition of the papers yourself. You cannot clean or unfold paper artifacts without expertise to guide you because you will likely damage the papers in some way. For example, the papers in questions are probably at their weakest point along the folds. If you unfold them, they may well tear along the fold lines. As for storage methods, a paper conservator can help you there as well, but in general, you're looking at storing paper flat in opaque, unbuffered, acid free envelopes. I understand the need for public viewing but preservation of the documents should be the higher priority (at least for the most important documents).
Jeff Tenuth
Natural History Collection Manager
Indiana State Museum
650 W. Washington St.
Indianapolis, IN 46204
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Dear Listers -
Once again I am appealing to your collective knowledge for assistance. I have a question about how to properly house paper objects that are found in historic buildings in our park. On several occasions, we have found caches of objects in building interiors, stuffed behind walls or under floorboards or the like. Most date to the very early 20th century and were in situ until being removed during building renovations in the last few years. A whole variety of material types/objects have been discovered, but the ones I have least familiarity with are works on paper. (As an archaeologist by training and profession, (historic) paper is something I rarely encounter in my work!) The paper objects are predominately hand-written letters, although there are typed forms, printed pamphlets and other ephemera. They have a multitude of condition issues, from dirt to brittleness to folds, although no visible biological issues (no evidence of insects/mold/mildew).
There is a desire on the part of our staff to view the original works, so I'd like to find a storage solution that provides this opportunity with minimal handling of the material. I was thinking something along the lines of clear polyester envelopes that are available from Gaylord and the like, which would allow both sides of the object to be visible without actually having to handle the paper directly. A few specific questions: is inert polyester appropriate for storing poorly preserved but relatively stable paper? Is it okay to store the letters removed from their envelopes and unfolded? (Most have been removed at least once since their discovery as interested staff have read/scanned/transcribed the contents.) Is there anything I can do to gently clean the paper (brushing/blower brush)? And finally, at what point should I consider enlisting the services of a paper conservator?
Many thanks for your input - as always, it is much appreciated.
aloha
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I would suggest you enlist the services of a paper conservator before you do anything else. Unless you are a trained paper conservator, there is little you can do to better the condition of the papers yourself. You cannot clean or unfold paper artifacts without expertise to guide you because you will likely damage the papers in some way. For example, the papers in questions are probably at their weakest point along the folds. If you unfold them, they may well tear along the fold lines. As for storage methods, a paper conservator can help you there as well, but in general, you’re looking at storing paper flat in opaque, unbuffered, acid free envelopes. I understand the need for public viewing but preservation of the documents should be the higher priority (at least for the most important documents).
From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Clevenger, Liz Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 1:59 PM To:[log in to unmask] Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Found paper storage
Dear Listers –
Once again I am appealing to your collective knowledge for assistance. I have a question about how to properly house paper objects that are found in historic buildings in our park. On several occasions, we have found caches of objects in building interiors, stuffed behind walls or under floorboards or the like. Most date to the very early 20th century and were in situ until being removed during building renovations in the last few years. A whole variety of material types/objects have been discovered, but the ones I have least familiarity with are works on paper. (As an archaeologist by training and profession, (historic) paper is something I rarely encounter in my work!) The paper objects are predominately hand-written letters, although there are typed forms, printed pamphlets and other ephemera. They have a multitude of condition issues, from dirt to brittleness to folds, although no visible biological issues (no evidence of insects/mold/mildew).
There is a desire on the part of our staff to view the original works, so I’d like to find a storage solution that provides this opportunity with minimal handling of the material. I was thinking something along the lines of clear polyester envelopes that are available from Gaylord and the like, which would allow both sides of the object to be visible without actually having to handle the paper directly. A few specific questions: is inert polyester appropriate for storing poorly preserved but relatively stable paper? Is it okay to store the letters removed from their envelopes and unfolded? (Most have been removed at least once since their discovery as interested staff have read/scanned/transcribed the contents.) Is there anything I can do to gently clean the paper (brushing/blower brush)? And finally, at what point should I consider enlisting the services of a paper conservator?
Many thanks for your input – as always, it is much appreciated.
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Christa,
Amy Fox's reply had a lot of merit, but I very much share your concerns.
The world of small museums is chock full of very nice people who think that
love of history is enough to run a museum.
The time and effort invested in an intern is huge, and I hope you have
enough applicants to choose the best. If they can do the job they are
interviewing for, and learn at the same time that there is a lot more to
museums than just liking history, that would be win-win.
It's critical, I believe, to recognize the different levels of training
behind different internship expectations. In every case, whether a high
school intern, a college intern, a graduate student, or a museum studies
intern you have to adjust expectations and training. I've seen some pretty
sad situations where interns were expected to know much more than they did
and in small non-professional museums it became "the blind leading the
blind" in terms of good practices.
It sounds like you have a wonderful opportunity for interns to do real jobs
and I applaud you for providing this kind of learning experience --so I'd
say, 'just hire to the job', and if they haven't enough museum training, be
sure your opportunity is broadcast to regional museum studies programs.
Lucy Sperlin
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Of Christa McCay
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 9:09 AM
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Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Is a love of history enough for interns?
Hello All,
My question is about interns. After having recently interviewing over
20 interns for the summer semester (fyi, we are a staff of 4 and will
have more interns then staff at the Museum this summer), I have begun
to feel that potential interns think that a love of history is enough
to get them a position. Is it really enough?
I have begun to feel that no it?s not. Often times they don?t have
the experience with basic computer programs or with graphic design
programs (mainly exhibits and marketing interns). I understand with
this economy getting an internship and experience is the best for
their resume and for getting a job after college. Also I understand
that people need to start their experience somewhere,but most of these
students don?t want to be in the Museum world when they graduate and
often times assume that they will get to ?play? with cool artifacts
all day. We all know that the truth is, there is a lot of paperwork
involved with maintaining a collection along with data entry, both of
which are not glamorous or very exciting.
I know that our job is to teach interns but like many of us, we are
juggling multiple tasks to make up for the positions that are
currently empty and can?t be filled due to budget. Our teaching and
training time is limited. I do want to have interns with a passion
for history but also a passion to work in Museums. I sometimes feel
like my time was wasted trying to teach and train someone who just
wanted to do this for fun.
I am sorry if this sounds like whining or sour grapes but I would like
to know from others if a love of history is enough?
Sincerely,
Christa McCay, M.H.P.
Registrar
Marietta Museum of History
1 Depot Street, Ste. 200
Marietta, GA 30060
770-794-5726
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Shawnee Town 1929
Shawnee, Kansas
Paid Internship - Education
Title: Museum Intern - Education
Paid Summer Internship
Department:Parks and Recreation
Pay Range: $11.00 per hour
Close Date: April 27, 2012
Description:
Shawnee Town 1929, a living history museum which interprets Shawnee in the
1920's is seeking a graduate level student for a 12 week paid internship.
The internship will run mid May - mid August. The Shawnee Town 1929 Museum
engages visitors through programs, events, guided tours, exhibits, hands-on
activities and third person
interpretation. The intern will work directly with the Museum's Curator of
Education 18 hours per week, Tuesday - Saturday, mid-May through
mid-August. The intern will experience and gain a working knowledge of the
educational process at a living history museum and will be given the
opportunity to assist with projects related to the museum profession.
Position Summary
Assist in third person interpretation of the site for museum visitors.
(Period attire will be provided.)
Give guided tours on a daily basis to the general public.
Assist the Curator of Education with planning and programming.
Complete a written report detailing and analyzing their intern
experience.
Develop a sample interpretive station for a town business.
Position Requirements
Bachelor's Degree from an accredited college or university in History,
Museum Studies, Education or a related field.
Currently enrolled in a graduate level program at an accredited college
or university studying History, Museum Studied, Education or a
related field.
Excellent communication skills.
Ability to speak in front of groups of all ages.
Must be dependable and reliable.
Able to work in an outdoor work environment.
Successful completion of a background investigation and post-offer
employment physical and drug screen.
The ideal intern will be flexible, organized, detail oriented with
attention to detail, customer service focused, and have the ability to
handle multiple projects. Must be proficient in MS Word. First Aid
certification a plus.
To apply please submit a resume, letter of interest, and a letter of
reference from your Academic Internship Advisor. Materials should be mailed
to:
City of Shawnee
Attn. Human Resources
11110 Johnson Drive
Shawnee, KS 66203
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needed, contact Human Resources, Shawnee City Hall, 11110 Johnson Drive,
Shawnee, Kansas, 66203, Monday - Friday 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.
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Shannon Hsu
Curator of Collections
Shawnee Town
City of Shawnee
913-742-6422
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Shawnee Town 1929
Shawnee, Kansas
Paid Summer Internship - Collections
Title:Museum Intern - Collections
Paid Summer Internship
Department: Parks and Recreation - Shawnee Town 1929 Museum
Pay Range: $11.00
Close Date: April 27, 2012
Description:
Shawnee Town 1929, a living history museum which interprets Shawnee town
and farm life in the 1920's is seeking a graduate level studentto work
on-site for a 12 week paid internship. The Shawnee Town 1929
> Museum engages visitors through programs, events, guided tours, exhibits,
hands-on activities and third person interpretation. The Intern will work
on-site at Shawnee Town 1929 with the Museum's Curator of Collections 30
hours per week, Monday - Friday, mid-May through mid-August. The selected
candidate will gain experience and a working knowledge of accessioning,
cataloging, researching and the documentation processes of museum
collections. The duration of this position is Mid May through Mid August
(12 weeks).
Position Summary
Accession, catalog, research and document collections
Clean and treat collection objects
Assist with exhibit research and installation
Work with the Vernon Systems Collection Database
Position Requirements
Bachelor's Degree from an accredited college or university in History,
Museum Studies, Anthropology or a related field.
Currently enrolled in a graduate level program at an accredited college
or university studying History, Museum Studies, Anthropology or a
related field.
Excellent written communication skills.
Must be dependable and reliable.
Able to work independently with limited supervision.
Successful completion of a background investigation and post-offer
employment physical and drug screen.
The ideal intern will be flexible, organized with attention to detail, able
to take initiative, and have the ability to handle multiple projects. Must
be proficient in MS Word and Excel. Knowledge of basic museum collections
management and practices preferred.
To apply, please submit a resume, letter of interest, and a letter of
reference from your Academic Internship Advisor. Materials should be
submitted to:
City of Shawnee
Attn. Human Resources
11110 Johnson Drive
Shawnee, KS 66203
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Shawnee, Kansas, 66203, Monday - Friday 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.
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Shannon Hsu
Curator of Collections
Shawnee Town
City of Shawnee
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I do have to say that some of this is a bit disheartening. I graduated
from my University with a degree in Social Studies Education and my
teaching certification. After wading into the teaching field I have found
it to be something I don't really see myself doing long-term. Museums, on
the other hand, are something that I have always LOVED and something I
would be thrilled to have an opportunity in, (even licking envelops all day
to start if it paid my rent). As a result, I applied for several graduate
programs in or related to museum studies but was unable to get in this time
around due to their generally small class sizes and my lack of experience.
I have found this extremely frustrating because of course I have no
experience. I've been in school my entire life, working since I was 14
years old, been in the military, served in Iraq, and then just started to
get into the teaching profession. No experience? No kidding! That's why
I want to go to grad school or get an internship, because I LOVE history
and I LOVE museums and I LOVE being in that environment. That school or
that internship is supposed to be the place where I get that education
and/or experience that will allow me to move into the museum field as a
profession, (God willing), but it seems increasingly as though wherever I
turn I am expected to somehow already have those thing as a prerequisite to
getting access to it in the first place. It's forms a horrifying circle.
I've taken to moving back in with my parents at age 25 so that I can
volunteer at museums all week long and not have to worry about my rent
since I have no money but no one wants to give me a chance because passion
and a desire to be there isn't enough evidently. Everyone wants me to be
experienced, (even for entry-level positions), but no one wants to provide
that experience. I'm at a loss for what to do long-term.
Now, I absolutely value education, am grateful for that which I have,
and hopeful that I will be able to pursue more education in the form of a
graduate school, but I also absolutely feel we, or employers, OVER-value
it. Or, over-emphasize it, certainly. No amount of education takes the
place of experience, which can be gained, oftentimes, through mere
on-the-job training and working through the day to day tasks of a
position. I think we are kidding ourselves to some degree if we pretend
that it would be that difficult to take someone with an unrelated bachelors
degree and train them for most job positions. In under a month you'd
almost always have a fully functional employee, barring any extraneous
personal factors and assuming they are a competent individual. You'd
likely have spent as much time training someone with an MA in Museum
Studies anyway because education can never be specific enough to your
facility, to your situation, or even to real life. One thing I definitely
learned in attaining my B.S. in education is that colleges and universities
are full of theory and best-case scenarios that are not reflective of the
realities of the actual day-to-day operations or shrinking budgets. This
isn't at all to say that getting an MA in Museum Studies is wasted effort
or that their education shouldn't be considered as a potential asset, but
simply that we need to maintain a certain amount of perspective.
Passion for a subject should not ever be discounted. Having that love
is extremely important if you are going to come in day after day with a
good attitude. And if you're concerned with the long-term potential of a
candidate, intern or otherwise, those that love the subject or field are
most likely going to be your best bet because they are the ones that have a
reason to stick around. God knows it won't be for the money in most
cases. On a personal note, I just turned down a fantastic government
GS07/09/11 opportunity that would have paid me more than I likely ever will
make in the museum field, so that I could stay at home, making nothing, and
volunteer in museums until someone hopefully gives me a chance. So I think
you'd be crazy to discount love.
Anyone who needs an envelope licker, e-mail me.
- Alex
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:52 PM, [log in to unmask] <
[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I wish a LOVE of anything was enough to get an internship nowadays, but it
> is not. This is coming from a frustrated second year Grad student, who has
> been told numerous times that her portfolio is "great", but has gotten
> turned down time after time. You are right in wanting technically
> proficient interns, but were there absolutely none available to choose
> from? Or are you passing up the technically proficient for someone who just
> sounds good on paper?
>
> Sent from my HTC Aria™ smartphone on AT&T
>
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Aderman, Ella" <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Tue, Apr 17, 2012 1:38 pm
> Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Is a love of history enough for interns?
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>
> I think an internship is their opportunity to try out a job and see if
> they like it before actually working or preparing to work in that field.
> It is a time for those that are committed to refine what they like
> doing, and also a time for them to learn what they DON'T like doing so
> they don't waste any more time going in that direction with their
> coursework or career.
>
> Is a love of history enough? No, they have to also be able to write,
> speak intelligently, have basic computer skills or whatever they need to
> be useful for your situation.
> Regards,
> Ella Aderman
> Pennypacker Mills
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On
> Behalf Of Christa McCay
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 12:09 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Is a love of history enough for interns?
>
> Hello All,
>
> My question is about interns. After having recently interviewing over
> 20 interns for the summer semester (fyi, we are a staff of 4 and will
> have more interns then staff at the Museum this summer), I have begun to
> feel that potential interns think that a love of history is enough to
> get them a position. Is it really enough?
>
> I have begun to feel that no it?s not. Often times they don?t have the
> experience with basic computer programs or with graphic design programs
> (mainly exhibits and marketing interns). I understand with this economy
> getting an internship and experience is the best for their resume and
> for getting a job after college. Also I understand that people need to
> start their experience somewhere,but most of these students don?t want
> to be in the Museum world when they graduate and often times assume that
> they will get to ?play? with cool artifacts all day. We all know that
> the truth is, there is a lot of paperwork involved with maintaining a
> collection along with data entry, both of which are not glamorous or
> very exciting.
> I know that our job is to teach interns but like many of us, we are
> juggling multiple tasks to make up for the positions that are currently
> empty and can?t be filled due to budget. Our teaching and training time
> is limited. I do want to have interns with a passion for history but
> also a passion to work in Museums. I sometimes feel like my time was
> wasted trying to teach and train someone who just wanted to do this for
> fun.
>
> I am sorry if this sounds like whining or sour grapes but I would like
> to know from others if a love of history is enough?
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Christa McCay, M.H.P.
> Registrar
> Marietta Museum of History
> 1 Depot Street, Ste. 200
> Marietta, GA 30060
> 770-794-5726
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I do have to say that some of this is a bit disheartening. I graduated from my University with a degree in Social Studies Education and my teaching certification. After wading into the teaching field I have found it to be something I don't really see myself doing long-term. Museums, on the other hand, are something that I have always LOVED and something I would be thrilled to have an opportunity in, (even licking envelops all day to start if it paid my rent). As a result, I applied for several graduate programs in or related to museum studies but was unable to get in this time around due to their generally small class sizes and my lack of experience.
I have found this extremely frustrating because of course I have no experience. I've been in school my entire life, working since I was 14 years old, been in the military, served in Iraq, and then just started to get into the teaching profession. No experience? No kidding! That's why I want to go to grad school or get an internship, because I LOVE history and I LOVE museums and I LOVE being in that environment. That school or that internship is supposed to be the place where I get that education and/or experience that will allow me to move into the museum field as a profession, (God willing), but it seems increasingly as though wherever I turn I am expected to somehow already have those thing as a prerequisite to getting access to it in the first place. It's forms a horrifying circle. I've taken to moving back in with my parents at age 25 so that I can volunteer at museums all week long and not have to worry about my rent since I have no money but no one wants to give me a chance because passion and a desire to be there isn't enough evidently. Everyone wants me to be experienced, (even for entry-level positions), but no one wants to provide that experience. I'm at a loss for what to do long-term.
Now, I absolutely value education, am grateful for that which I have, and hopeful that I will be able to pursue more education in the form of a graduate school, but I also absolutely feel we, or employers, OVER-value it. Or, over-emphasize it, certainly. No amount of education takes the place of experience, which can be gained, oftentimes, through mere on-the-job training and working through the day to day tasks of a position. I think we are kidding ourselves to some degree if we pretend that it would be that difficult to take someone with an unrelated bachelors degree and train them for most job positions. In under a month you'd almost always have a fully functional employee, barring any extraneous personal factors and assuming they are a competent individual. You'd likely have spent as much time training someone with an MA in Museum Studies anyway because education can never be specific enough to your facility, to your situation, or even to real life. One thing I definitely learned in attaining my B.S. in education is that colleges and universities are full of theory and best-case scenarios that are not reflective of the realities of the actual day-to-day operations or shrinking budgets. This isn't at all to say that getting an MA in Museum Studies is wasted effort or that their education shouldn't be considered as a potential asset, but simply that we need to maintain a certain amount of perspective.
Passion for a subject should not ever be discounted. Having that love is extremely important if you are going to come in day after day with a good attitude. And if you're concerned with the long-term potential of a candidate, intern or otherwise, those that love the subject or field are most likely going to be your best bet because they are the ones that have a reason to stick around. God knows it won't be for the money in most cases. On a personal note, I just turned down a fantastic government GS07/09/11 opportunity that would have paid me more than I likely ever will make in the museum field, so that I could stay at home, making nothing, and volunteer in museums until someone hopefully gives me a chance. So I think you'd be crazy to discount love.
I wish a LOVE of anything was enough to get an internship nowadays, but it is not. This is coming from a frustrated second year Grad student, who has been told numerous times that her portfolio is "great", but has gotten turned down time after time. You are right in wanting technically proficient interns, but were there absolutely none available to choose from? Or are you passing up the technically proficient for someone who just sounds good on paper?
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I think an internship is their opportunity to try out a job and see if
they like it before actually working or preparing to work in that field. It is a time for those that are committed to refine what they like doing, and also a time for them to learn what they DON'T like doing so
they don't waste any more time going in that direction with their coursework or career.
Is a love of history enough? No, they have to also be able to write, speak intelligently, have basic computer skills or whatever they need to
be useful for your situation. Regards, Ella Aderman Pennypacker Mills
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Hello All,
My question is about interns. After having recently interviewing over 20 interns for the summer semester (fyi, we are a staff of 4 and will
have more interns then staff at the Museum this summer), I have begun to feel that potential interns think that a love of history is enough to get them a position. Is it really enough?
I have begun to feel that no it?s not. Often times they don?t have the
experience with basic computer programs or with graphic design programs (mainly exhibits and marketing interns). I understand with this economy getting an internship and experience is the best for their resume and
for getting a job after college. Also I understand that people need to start their experience somewhere,but most of these students don?t want to be in the Museum world when they graduate and often times assume that
they will get to ?play? with cool artifacts all day. We all know that the truth is, there is a lot of paperwork involved with maintaining a collection along with data entry, both of which are not glamorous or very exciting.
I know that our job is to teach interns but like many of us, we are juggling multiple tasks to make up for the positions that are currently empty and can?t be filled due to budget. Our teaching and training time
is limited. I do want to have interns with a passion for history but also a passion to work in Museums. I sometimes feel like my time was wasted trying to teach and train someone who just wanted to do this for
fun.
I am sorry if this sounds like whining or sour grapes but I would like to know from others if a love of history is enough?
Sincerely,
Christa McCay, M.H.P. Registrar Marietta Museum of History
1 Depot Street, Ste. 200 Marietta, GA 30060 770-794-5726
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I have a history student as an exhibit intern this semester. He's really
sharp with building mounts and handling artwork. He's a great asset to have
for a few months. Last semester, he didn't know he wanted to work in a
museum, but in the three months he's been working here, he knows that's
what he wants to do. He didn't even know building exhibitions was a career
option. So this internship is shaping his life, and adding a good
professional to our field.
I've turned down interns who I thought would be black hole of staff time.
But if a student is professional, and has good follow-up, I'll take a risk
on them.
Daniel
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:34 AM, John Marks <
[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> My best intern of all time loved history, but she REALLY loved having
> things in order - her cataloging and organizational skills were impeccable.
> You should definitely ask if they love [the tasks you really need done] -
> yes, there will be history along the way, but s/he needs to looovvee doing
> layout for publications, or scanning photos, or doing marketing. A love of
> history is why we apply our skills to this career, but we have to love
> doing certain tasks, too. (yeah, yeah, "love" is stretching it some days, I
> know....)
>
> John Marks
> Curator of Collections & Exhibits
> Geneva (NY) Historical Society
>
>
> On 4/17/2012 12:09 PM, Christa McCay wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> My question is about interns. After having recently interviewing over 20
>> interns for the summer semester (fyi, we are a staff of 4 and will have
>> more interns then staff at the Museum this summer), I have begun to feel
>> that potential interns think that a love of history is enough to get them a
>> position. Is it really enough?
>> I have begun to feel that no it?s not. Often times they don?t have the
>> experience with basic computer programs or with graphic design programs
>> (mainly exhibits and marketing interns). I understand with this economy
>> getting an internship and experience is the best for their resume and for
>> getting a job after college. Also I understand that people need to start
>> their experience somewhere,but most of these students don?t want to be in
>> the Museum world when they graduate and often times assume that they will
>> get to ?play? with cool artifacts all day. We all know that the truth is,
>> there is a lot of paperwork involved with maintaining a collection along
>> with data entry, both of which are not glamorous or very exciting.
>> I know that our job is to teach interns but like many of us, we are
>> juggling multiple tasks to make up for the positions that are currently
>> empty and can?t be filled due to budget. Our teaching and training time is
>> limited. I do want to have interns with a passion for history but also a
>> passion to work in Museums. I sometimes feel like my time was wasted
>> trying to teach and train someone who just wanted to do this for fun.
>>
>> I am sorry if this sounds like whining or sour grapes but I would like to
>> know from others if a love of history is enough?
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>>
>> Christa McCay, M.H.P.
>> Registrar
>> Marietta Museum of History
>> 1 Depot Street, Ste. 200
>> Marietta, GA 30060
>> 770-794-5726
>>
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I have a history student as an exhibit intern this semester. He's really sharp with building mounts and handling artwork. He's a great asset to have for a few months. Last semester, he didn't know he wanted to work in a museum, but in the three months he's been working here, he knows that's what he wants to do. He didn't even know building exhibitions was a career option. So this internship is shaping his life, and adding a good professional to our field.
I've turned down interns who I thought would be black hole of staff time. But if a student is professional, and has good follow-up, I'll take a risk on them.
Daniel
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:34 AM, John Marks <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
My best intern of all time loved history, but she REALLY loved having things in order - her cataloging and organizational skills were impeccable. You should definitely ask if they love [the tasks you really need done] - yes, there will be history along the way, but s/he needs to looovvee doing layout for publications, or scanning photos, or doing marketing. A love of history is why we apply our skills to this career, but we have to love doing certain tasks, too. (yeah, yeah, "love" is stretching it some days, I know....)
John Marks
Curator of Collections & Exhibits
Geneva (NY) Historical Society
On 4/17/2012 12:09 PM, Christa McCay wrote:
Hello All,
My question is about interns. After having recently interviewing over 20 interns for the summer semester (fyi, we are a staff of 4 and will have more interns then staff at the Museum this summer), I have begun to feel that potential interns think that a love of history is enough to get them a position. Is it really enough?
I have begun to feel that no it?s not. Often times they don?t have the experience with basic computer programs or with graphic design programs (mainly exhibits and marketing interns). I understand with this economy getting an internship and experience is the best for their resume and for getting a job after college. Also I understand that people need to start their experience somewhere,but most of these students don?t want to be in the Museum world when they graduate and often times assume that they will get to ?play? with cool artifacts all day. We all know that the truth is, there is a lot of paperwork involved with maintaining a collection along with data entry, both of which are not glamorous or very exciting.
I know that our job is to teach interns but like many of us, we are juggling multiple tasks to make up for the positions that are currently empty and can?t be filled due to budget. Our teaching and training time is limited. I do want to have interns with a passion for history but also a passion to work in Museums. I sometimes feel like my time was wasted trying to teach and train someone who just wanted to do this for fun.
I am sorry if this sounds like whining or sour grapes but I would like to know from others if a love of history is enough?
Sincerely,
Christa McCay, M.H.P.
Registrar
Marietta Museum of History
1 Depot Street, Ste. 200
Marietta, GA 30060 770-794-5726
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Alex,
What a great essay! I hope someone snaps you up!!!!!!
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Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 1:48 PM
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I do have to say that some of this is a bit disheartening. I graduated
from my University with a degree in Social Studies Education and my teaching
certification. After wading into the teaching field I have found it to be
something I don't really see myself doing long-term. Museums, on the other
hand, are something that I have always LOVED and something I would be
thrilled to have an opportunity in, (even licking envelops all day to start
if it paid my rent). As a result, I applied for several graduate programs
in or related to museum studies but was unable to get in this time around
due to their generally small class sizes and my lack of experience.
I have found this extremely frustrating because of course I have no
experience. I've been in school my entire life, working since I was 14
years old, been in the military, served in Iraq, and then just started to
get into the teaching profession. No experience? No kidding! That's why I
want to go to grad school or get an internship, because I LOVE history and I
LOVE museums and I LOVE being in that environment. That school or that
internship is supposed to be the place where I get that education and/or
experience that will allow me to move into the museum field as a profession,
(God willing), but it seems increasingly as though wherever I turn I am
expected to somehow already have those thing as a prerequisite to getting
access to it in the first place. It's forms a horrifying circle. I've
taken to moving back in with my parents at age 25 so that I can volunteer at
museums all week long and not have to worry about my rent since I have no
money but no one wants to give me a chance because passion and a desire to
be there isn't enough evidently. Everyone wants me to be experienced, (even
for entry-level positions), but no one wants to provide that experience.
I'm at a loss for what to do long-term.
Now, I absolutely value education, am grateful for that which I have,
and hopeful that I will be able to pursue more education in the form of a
graduate school, but I also absolutely feel we, or employers, OVER-value it.
Or, over-emphasize it, certainly. No amount of education takes the place of
experience, which can be gained, oftentimes, through mere on-the-job
training and working through the day to day tasks of a position. I think we
are kidding ourselves to some degree if we pretend that it would be that
difficult to take someone with an unrelated bachelors degree and train them
for most job positions. In under a month you'd almost always have a fully
functional employee, barring any extraneous personal factors and assuming
they are a competent individual. You'd likely have spent as much time
training someone with an MA in Museum Studies anyway because education can
never be specific enough to your facility, to your situation, or even to
real life. One thing I definitely learned in attaining my B.S. in education
is that colleges and universities are full of theory and best-case scenarios
that are not reflective of the realities of the actual day-to-day operations
or shrinking budgets. This isn't at all to say that getting an MA in Museum
Studies is wasted effort or that their education shouldn't be considered as
a potential asset, but simply that we need to maintain a certain amount of
perspective.
Passion for a subject should not ever be discounted. Having that love
is extremely important if you are going to come in day after day with a good
attitude. And if you're concerned with the long-term potential of a
candidate, intern or otherwise, those that love the subject or field are
most likely going to be your best bet because they are the ones that have a
reason to stick around. God knows it won't be for the money in most cases.
On a personal note, I just turned down a fantastic government GS07/09/11
opportunity that would have paid me more than I likely ever will make in the
museum field, so that I could stay at home, making nothing, and volunteer in
museums until someone hopefully gives me a chance. So I think you'd be
crazy to discount love.
Anyone who needs an envelope licker, e-mail me.
- Alex
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I wish a LOVE of anything was enough to get an internship nowadays, but it
is not. This is coming from a frustrated second year Grad student, who has
been told numerous times that her portfolio is "great", but has gotten
turned down time after time. You are right in wanting technically proficient
interns, but were there absolutely none available to choose from? Or are you
passing up the technically proficient for someone who just sounds good on
paper?
Sent from my HTC AriaT smartphone on AT&T
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Date: Tue, Apr 17, 2012 1:38 pm
Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Is a love of history enough for interns?
To: <[log in to unmask]>
I think an internship is their opportunity to try out a job and see if
they like it before actually working or preparing to work in that field.
It is a time for those that are committed to refine what they like
doing, and also a time for them to learn what they DON'T like doing so
they don't waste any more time going in that direction with their
coursework or career.
Is a love of history enough? No, they have to also be able to write,
speak intelligently, have basic computer skills or whatever they need to
be useful for your situation.
Regards,
Ella Aderman
Pennypacker Mills
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Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 12:09 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Is a love of history enough for interns?
Hello All,
My question is about interns. After having recently interviewing over
20 interns for the summer semester (fyi, we are a staff of 4 and will
have more interns then staff at the Museum this summer), I have begun to
feel that potential interns think that a love of history is enough to
get them a position. Is it really enough?
I have begun to feel that no it?s not. Often times they don?t have the
experience with basic computer programs or with graphic design programs
(mainly exhibits and marketing interns). I understand with this economy
getting an internship and experience is the best for their resume and
for getting a job after college. Also I understand that people need to
start their experience somewhere,but most of these students don?t want
to be in the Museum world when they graduate and often times assume that
they will get to ?play? with cool artifacts all day. We all know that
the truth is, there is a lot of paperwork involved with maintaining a
collection along with data entry, both of which are not glamorous or
very exciting.
I know that our job is to teach interns but like many of us, we are
juggling multiple tasks to make up for the positions that are currently
empty and can?t be filled due to budget. Our teaching and training time
is limited. I do want to have interns with a passion for history but
also a passion to work in Museums. I sometimes feel like my time was
wasted trying to teach and train someone who just wanted to do this for
fun.
I am sorry if this sounds like whining or sour grapes but I would like
to know from others if a love of history is enough?
Sincerely,
Christa McCay, M.H.P.
Registrar
Marietta Museum of History
1 Depot Street, Ste. 200
Marietta, GA 30060
770-794-5726
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Alex,
What a great essay! I hope someone
snaps you up!!!!!!
From: Museum
discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Alex Augustine Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 1:48
PM To:[log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Is a love
of history enough for interns?
I do
have to say that some of this is a bit disheartening. I graduated from my
University with a degree in Social Studies Education and my teaching
certification. After wading into the teaching field I have found it to be
something I don't really see myself doing long-term. Museums, on the
other hand, are something that I have always LOVED and something I would be
thrilled to have an opportunity in, (even licking envelops all day to start if
it paid my rent). As a result, I applied for several graduate programs in
or related to museum studies but was unable to get in this time around due to
their generally small class sizes and my lack of experience.
I have found this extremely frustrating because of course I
have no experience. I've been in school my entire life, working since I
was 14 years old, been in the military, served in Iraq, and then just started to get
into the teaching profession. No experience? No kidding!
That's why I want to go to grad school or get an internship, because I LOVE
history and I LOVE museums and I LOVE being in that environment. That
school or that internship is supposed to be the place where I get that
education and/or experience that will allow me to move into the museum field as
a profession, (God willing), but it seems increasingly as though wherever I
turn I am expected to somehow already have those thing as a prerequisite to
getting access to it in the first place. It's forms a horrifying
circle. I've taken to moving back in with my parents at age 25 so that I
can volunteer at museums all week long and not have to worry about my rent
since I have no money but no one wants to give me a chance because passion and
a desire to be there isn't enough evidently. Everyone wants me to be
experienced, (even for entry-level positions), but no one wants to provide that
experience. I'm at a loss for what to do long-term.
Now, I absolutely value education, am grateful for that
which I have, and hopeful that I will be able to pursue more education in the
form of a graduate school, but I also absolutely feel we, or employers,
OVER-value it. Or, over-emphasize it, certainly. No amount of
education takes the place of experience, which can be gained, oftentimes,
through mere on-the-job training and working through the day to day tasks of a
position. I think we are kidding ourselves to some degree if we pretend
that it would be that difficult to take someone with an unrelated bachelors
degree and train them for most job positions. In under a month you'd almost
always have a fully functional employee, barring any extraneous personal
factors and assuming they are a competent individual. You'd likely have
spent as much time training someone with an MA in Museum Studies anyway because
education can never be specific enough to your facility, to your situation, or
even to real life. One thing I definitely learned in attaining my B.S. in
education is that colleges and universities are full of theory and best-case
scenarios that are not reflective of the realities of the actual day-to-day
operations or shrinking budgets. This isn't at all to say that getting an
MA in Museum Studies is wasted effort or that their education shouldn't be
considered as a potential asset, but simply that we need to maintain a certain
amount of perspective.
Passion for a subject should not ever be discounted.
Having that love is extremely important if you are going to come in day after
day with a good attitude. And if you're concerned with the long-term
potential of a candidate, intern or otherwise, those that love the subject or
field are most likely going to be your best bet because they are the ones that
have a reason to stick around. God knows it won't be for the money in
most cases. On a personal note, I just turned down a fantastic government
GS07/09/11 opportunity that would have paid me more than I likely ever will
make in the museum field, so that I could stay at home, making nothing, and
volunteer in museums until someone hopefully gives me a chance. So I
think you'd be crazy to discount love.
I wish a LOVE of anything was enough to get an internship nowadays, but
it is not. This is coming from a frustrated second year Grad student, who has
been told numerous times that her portfolio is "great", but has
gotten turned down time after time. You are right in wanting technically
proficient interns, but were there absolutely none available to choose from? Or
are you passing up the technically proficient for someone who just sounds good
on paper?
Sent from my HTC Aria™ smartphone on AT&T
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From: "Aderman, Ella" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tue, Apr 17, 2012 1:38 pm
Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Is a love of history enough for interns?
To: <[log in to unmask]>
I think an internship is their opportunity to try out a job and see if
they like it before actually working or preparing to work in that field.
It is a time for those that are committed to refine what they like
doing, and also a time for them to learn what they DON'T like doing so
they don't waste any more time going in that direction with their
coursework or career.
Is a love of history enough? No, they have to also be able to write,
speak intelligently, have basic computer skills or whatever they need to
be useful for your situation.
Regards,
Ella Aderman
Pennypacker Mills
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From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
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Behalf Of Christa McCay
Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Is a
love of history enough for interns?
Hello All,
My question is about interns. After having recently interviewing over
20 interns for the summer semester (fyi, we are a staff of 4 and will
have more interns then staff at the Museum this summer), I have begun to
feel that potential interns think that a love of history is enough to
get them a position. Is it really enough?
I have begun to feel that no it?s not. Often times they don?t have the
experience with basic computer programs or with graphic design programs
(mainly exhibits and marketing interns). I understand with this economy
getting an internship and experience is the best for their resume and
for getting a job after college. Also I understand that people need to
start their experience somewhere,but most of these students don?t want
to be in the Museum world when they graduate and often times assume that
they will get to ?play? with cool artifacts all day. We all know that
the truth is, there is a lot of paperwork involved with maintaining a
collection along with data entry, both of which are not glamorous or
very exciting.
I know that our job is to teach interns but like many of us, we are
juggling multiple tasks to make up for the positions that are currently
empty and can?t be filled due to budget. Our teaching and training time
is limited. I do want to have interns with a passion for history but
also a passion to work in Museums. I sometimes feel like my time was
wasted trying to teach and train someone who just wanted to do this for
fun.
I am sorry if this sounds like whining or sour grapes but I would like
to know from others if a love of history is enough?
Sincerely,
Christa McCay, M.H.P.
Registrar MariettaMuseum of History 1 Depot Street, Ste. 200 Marietta, GA30060 770-794-5726
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*I believe a love of history is not enough to make someone a great museum
intern. In my mind, the education, exhibitions, marketing, or development
intern must not only love history, but also have the ability to infect
others with that love. Is he or she interested in or able to understand the
needs of others (such as visitors, donors, and other departments in the
museum)? Does he or she have experience writing, teaching, or creating
content for a private organization and/or the public? Depending on the
internship, a “yes” to these questions may be more important than skill
with Photoshop or even past museum experience.*
* *
There are many people who love history, but lack the “people skills” to
succeed in a public institution. We’ve all read a dry, verbose panel
written by someone more enthusiastic about conveying their own knowledge
than adapting to the visitor. While I’m not in a position to hire interns
(I'm applying to jobs and internships myself!), I would also be wary of
those candidates who seem to want the job for “fun.” Certainly, finding
history fun will give them enthusiasm, but, an excellent intern will be
interested in giving back to the community and the hiring institution.
Elizabeth Bradley
Aspiring Museum Professional
History MA Candidate
University of Massachusetts Amherst
Expected May 2012
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Christa McCay <[log in to unmask]
> wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> My question is about interns. After having recently interviewing over 20
> interns for the summer semester (fyi, we are a staff of 4 and will have
> more interns then staff at the Museum this summer), I have begun to feel
> that potential interns think that a love of history is enough to get them a
> position. Is it really enough?
> I have begun to feel that no it?s not. Often times they don?t have the
> experience with basic computer programs or with graphic design programs
> (mainly exhibits and marketing interns). I understand with this economy
> getting an internship and experience is the best for their resume and for
> getting a job after college. Also I understand that people need to start
> their experience somewhere,but most of these students don?t want to be in
> the Museum world when they graduate and often times assume that they will
> get to ?play? with cool artifacts all day. We all know that the truth is,
> there is a lot of paperwork involved with maintaining a collection along
> with data entry, both of which are not glamorous or very exciting.
> I know that our job is to teach interns but like many of us, we are
> juggling multiple tasks to make up for the positions that are currently
> empty and can?t be filled due to budget. Our teaching and training time is
> limited. I do want to have interns with a passion for history but also a
> passion to work in Museums. I sometimes feel like my time was wasted
> trying to teach and train someone who just wanted to do this for fun.
>
> I am sorry if this sounds like whining or sour grapes but I would like to
> know from others if a love of history is enough?
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Christa McCay, M.H.P.
> Registrar
> Marietta Museum of History
> 1 Depot Street, Ste. 200
> Marietta, GA 30060
> 770-794-5726
>
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I believe a love of history is not enough to make someone a great museum
intern. In my mind, the education, exhibitions, marketing, or development intern
must not only love history, but also have the ability to infect others with
that love. Is he or she interested in or able to understand the needs of others
(such as visitors, donors, and other departments in the museum)? Does he or she
have experience writing, teaching, or creating content for a private
organization and/or the public? Depending on the internship, a “yes” to these
questions may be more important than skill with Photoshop or even past museum
experience.
There are many people who love history, but lack the “people
skills” to succeed in a public institution. We’ve all read a dry, verbose panel
written by someone more enthusiastic about conveying their own knowledge than
adapting to the visitor. While I’m not in a position to hire interns (I'm applying to jobs and internships myself!), I would
also be wary of those candidates who seem to want the job for “fun.” Certainly,
finding history fun will give them enthusiasm, but, an excellent intern will be
interested in giving back to the community and the hiring institution.
Elizabeth Bradley
Aspiring Museum Professional
History MA Candidate
University of Massachusetts Amherst
Expected May 2012
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Christa McCay <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hello All,
My question is about interns. After having recently interviewing over 20 interns for the summer semester (fyi, we are a staff of 4 and will have more interns then staff at the Museum this summer), I have begun to feel that potential interns think that a love of history is enough to get them a position. Is it really enough?
I have begun to feel that no it?s not. Often times they don?t have the experience with basic computer programs or with graphic design programs (mainly exhibits and marketing interns). I understand with this economy getting an internship and experience is the best for their resume and for getting a job after college. Also I understand that people need to start their experience somewhere,but most of these students don?t want to be in the Museum world when they graduate and often times assume that they will get to ?play? with cool artifacts all day. We all know that the truth is, there is a lot of paperwork involved with maintaining a collection along with data entry, both of which are not glamorous or very exciting.
I know that our job is to teach interns but like many of us, we are juggling multiple tasks to make up for the positions that are currently empty and can?t be filled due to budget. Our teaching and training time is limited. I do want to have interns with a passion for history but also a passion to work in Museums. I sometimes feel like my time was wasted trying to teach and train someone who just wanted to do this for fun.
I am sorry if this sounds like whining or sour grapes but I would like to know from others if a love of history is enough?
Sincerely,
Christa McCay, M.H.P.
Registrar
Marietta Museum of History
1 Depot Street, Ste. 200
Marietta, GA 30060 770-794-5726
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Alex, all of us started out with the exact same problem. Past jobs are
experience even if they are not in museums.
Honestly I would say to take the job offer you have and volunteer on a
weekend, save up some money and take a class. Most likely that job offers
experience that you can apply, whether it is data entry, customer service
or driving a pallet jack.
Education isnt everything, experience isnt everything, personality, talent,
and marketing yourself to the right people are also a part. volunteering is
a great start, but I personally would never recommend choosing poverty as a
way to start a career if you have another route you can take, you may even
get tuition benefits, etc. with a job that would pay for classes or even
your whole degree.
On Apr 17, 2012 5:43 PM, "Daniel Lay" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I have a history student as an exhibit intern this semester. He's really
> sharp with building mounts and handling artwork. He's a great asset to have
> for a few months. Last semester, he didn't know he wanted to work in a
> museum, but in the three months he's been working here, he knows that's
> what he wants to do. He didn't even know building exhibitions was a career
> option. So this internship is shaping his life, and adding a good
> professional to our field.
>
> I've turned down interns who I thought would be black hole of staff time.
> But if a student is professional, and has good follow-up, I'll take a risk
> on them.
>
> Daniel
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:34 AM, John Marks <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> My best intern of all time loved history, but she REALLY loved having
>> things in order - her cataloging and organizational skills were impeccable.
>> You should definitely ask if they love [the tasks you really need done] -
>> yes, there will be history along the way, but s/he needs to looovvee doing
>> layout for publications, or scanning photos, or doing marketing. A love of
>> history is why we apply our skills to this career, but we have to love
>> doing certain tasks, too. (yeah, yeah, "love" is stretching it some days, I
>> know....)
>>
>> John Marks
>> Curator of Collections & Exhibits
>> Geneva (NY) Historical Society
>>
>>
>> On 4/17/2012 12:09 PM, Christa McCay wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> My question is about interns. After having recently interviewing over
>>> 20 interns for the summer semester (fyi, we are a staff of 4 and will have
>>> more interns then staff at the Museum this summer), I have begun to feel
>>> that potential interns think that a love of history is enough to get them a
>>> position. Is it really enough?
>>> I have begun to feel that no it?s not. Often times they don?t have the
>>> experience with basic computer programs or with graphic design programs
>>> (mainly exhibits and marketing interns). I understand with this economy
>>> getting an internship and experience is the best for their resume and for
>>> getting a job after college. Also I understand that people need to start
>>> their experience somewhere,but most of these students don?t want to be in
>>> the Museum world when they graduate and often times assume that they will
>>> get to ?play? with cool artifacts all day. We all know that the truth is,
>>> there is a lot of paperwork involved with maintaining a collection along
>>> with data entry, both of which are not glamorous or very exciting.
>>> I know that our job is to teach interns but like many of us, we are
>>> juggling multiple tasks to make up for the positions that are currently
>>> empty and can?t be filled due to budget. Our teaching and training time is
>>> limited. I do want to have interns with a passion for history but also a
>>> passion to work in Museums. I sometimes feel like my time was wasted
>>> trying to teach and train someone who just wanted to do this for fun.
>>>
>>> I am sorry if this sounds like whining or sour grapes but I would like
>>> to know from others if a love of history is enough?
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>>
>>> Christa McCay, M.H.P.
>>> Registrar
>>> Marietta Museum of History
>>> 1 Depot Street, Ste. 200
>>> Marietta, GA 30060
>>> 770-794-5726
>>>
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Alex, all of us started out with the exact same problem. Past jobs are experience even if they are not in museums.
Honestly I would say to take the job offer you have and volunteer on a weekend, save up some money and take a class. Most likely that job offers experience that you can apply, whether it is data entry, customer service or driving a pallet jack.
Education isnt everything, experience isnt everything, personality, talent, and marketing yourself to the right people are also a part. volunteering is a great start, but I personally would never recommend choosing poverty as a way to start a career if you have another route you can take, you may even get tuition benefits, etc. with a job that would pay for classes or even your whole degree.
I have a history student as an exhibit intern this semester. He's really sharp with building mounts and handling artwork. He's a great asset to have for a few months. Last semester, he didn't know he wanted to work in a museum, but in the three months he's been working here, he knows that's what he wants to do. He didn't even know building exhibitions was a career option. So this internship is shaping his life, and adding a good professional to our field.
I've turned down interns who I thought would be black hole of staff time. But if a student is professional, and has good follow-up, I'll take a risk on them.
Daniel
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:34 AM, John Marks <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
My best intern of all time loved history, but she REALLY loved having things in order - her cataloging and organizational skills were impeccable. You should definitely ask if they love [the tasks you really need done] - yes, there will be history along the way, but s/he needs to looovvee doing layout for publications, or scanning photos, or doing marketing. A love of history is why we apply our skills to this career, but we have to love doing certain tasks, too. (yeah, yeah, "love" is stretching it some days, I know....)
John Marks
Curator of Collections & Exhibits
Geneva (NY) Historical Society
On 4/17/2012 12:09 PM, Christa McCay wrote:
Hello All,
My question is about interns. After having recently interviewing over 20 interns for the summer semester (fyi, we are a staff of 4 and will have more interns then staff at the Museum this summer), I have begun to feel that potential interns think that a love of history is enough to get them a position. Is it really enough?
I have begun to feel that no it?s not. Often times they don?t have the experience with basic computer programs or with graphic design programs (mainly exhibits and marketing interns). I understand with this economy getting an internship and experience is the best for their resume and for getting a job after college. Also I understand that people need to start their experience somewhere,but most of these students don?t want to be in the Museum world when they graduate and often times assume that they will get to ?play? with cool artifacts all day. We all know that the truth is, there is a lot of paperwork involved with maintaining a collection along with data entry, both of which are not glamorous or very exciting.
I know that our job is to teach interns but like many of us, we are juggling multiple tasks to make up for the positions that are currently empty and can?t be filled due to budget. Our teaching and training time is limited. I do want to have interns with a passion for history but also a passion to work in Museums. I sometimes feel like my time was wasted trying to teach and train someone who just wanted to do this for fun.
I am sorry if this sounds like whining or sour grapes but I would like to know from others if a love of history is enough?
Sincerely,
Christa McCay, M.H.P.
Registrar
Marietta Museum of History
1 Depot Street, Ste. 200
Marietta, GA 30060 770-794-5726
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How much does the institution have available to give the intern? To
respond directly to Christa's situation, if you have four staff and none of
them have the time to train or mentor the large number of interns you are
planning to bring on board, then you may want to consider reducing the
number of interns you accept. One possible solution could be to take one
or two less experienced interns and one or two highly skilled interns; it
could institute an additional element of intern-to-intern mentoring that
would help reduce the intensity of staff supervision.
I have both supervised interns and been an intern several times over. I a
skilled intern who has gone back to graduate school after working in one
area of the field for almost 10 years. I have completed 3 internships with
an ongoing 4th and can say with some confidence, if there is not a staff
member dedicated to the supervision of a larger number of interns, none of
the interns will be very successful and the minimal amount of divided time
that partially dedicated staff can invest will be wasted. I quit an
internship that had too many interns to one supervisor who also had other
duties. The museum lost out on a skilled intern because they were spread
too thinly to support me even minimally. Of course having too many interns
to too few staff is frustrating; it goes both ways if interns don't get
enough access to the people who are supposed to be teaching them. If
interns knew everything they could learn on the job, why would they
intern? Why wouldn't they just try to get a job? Is it possible to poll
your previous interns about strengths and weaknesses of their experiences
at your institution and about the adequacy of the teaching/supervision they
received? This information might help in selecting interns who are
appropriate for the level of supervision and teaching that the
institution is able to provide.
Conversely, I was very unskilled when I began my first internship and had
not yet considered going into the field; in fact, I had absolutely no idea
what I wanted to do and only was 9 months from graduating with my BA. I
was the only intern at my institution and had an involved supervisor who
knew what to delegate and what to do alongside me. That experience
directly led to me working in visitor services and museum education for the
next ten years. Another internship I did along the way allowed me to
expand into administrative aspects and ultimately led me back to school.
Graduate school internships have opened my eyes to how much I LOVE the
tedium of collections management. They have also taught me how to ask for
the opportunities I need to learn and when I am being asked for work that
is not reasonable.
Good luck, Alex!
Lissa Kramer
Master's Candidate
Museology Graduate Program
University of Washington
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Daniel Lay <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I have a history student as an exhibit intern this semester. He's really
> sharp with building mounts and handling artwork. He's a great asset to have
> for a few months. Last semester, he didn't know he wanted to work in a
> museum, but in the three months he's been working here, he knows that's
> what he wants to do. He didn't even know building exhibitions was a career
> option. So this internship is shaping his life, and adding a good
> professional to our field.
>
> I've turned down interns who I thought would be black hole of staff time.
> But if a student is professional, and has good follow-up, I'll take a risk
> on them.
>
> Daniel
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:34 AM, John Marks <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> My best intern of all time loved history, but she REALLY loved having
>> things in order - her cataloging and organizational skills were impeccable.
>> You should definitely ask if they love [the tasks you really need done] -
>> yes, there will be history along the way, but s/he needs to looovvee doing
>> layout for publications, or scanning photos, or doing marketing. A love of
>> history is why we apply our skills to this career, but we have to love
>> doing certain tasks, too. (yeah, yeah, "love" is stretching it some days, I
>> know....)
>>
>> John Marks
>> Curator of Collections & Exhibits
>> Geneva (NY) Historical Society
>>
>>
>> On 4/17/2012 12:09 PM, Christa McCay wrote:
>>
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> My question is about interns. After having recently interviewing over
>>> 20 interns for the summer semester (fyi, we are a staff of 4 and will have
>>> more interns then staff at the Museum this summer), I have begun to feel
>>> that potential interns think that a love of history is enough to get them a
>>> position. Is it really enough?
>>> I have begun to feel that no it?s not. Often times they don?t have the
>>> experience with basic computer programs or with graphic design programs
>>> (mainly exhibits and marketing interns). I understand with this economy
>>> getting an internship and experience is the best for their resume and for
>>> getting a job after college. Also I understand that people need to start
>>> their experience somewhere,but most of these students don?t want to be in
>>> the Museum world when they graduate and often times assume that they will
>>> get to ?play? with cool artifacts all day. We all know that the truth is,
>>> there is a lot of paperwork involved with maintaining a collection along
>>> with data entry, both of which are not glamorous or very exciting.
>>> I know that our job is to teach interns but like many of us, we are
>>> juggling multiple tasks to make up for the positions that are currently
>>> empty and can?t be filled due to budget. Our teaching and training time is
>>> limited. I do want to have interns with a passion for history but also a
>>> passion to work in Museums. I sometimes feel like my time was wasted
>>> trying to teach and train someone who just wanted to do this for fun.
>>>
>>> I am sorry if this sounds like whining or sour grapes but I would like
>>> to know from others if a love of history is enough?
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>>
>>> Christa McCay, M.H.P.
>>> Registrar
>>> Marietta Museum of History
>>> 1 Depot Street, Ste. 200
>>> Marietta, GA 30060
>>> 770-794-5726
>>>
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How much does the institution have available to give the intern? To respond directly to Christa's situation, if you have four staff and none of them have the time to train or mentor the large number of interns you are planning to bring on board, then you may want to consider reducing the number of interns you accept. One possible solution could be to take one or two less experienced interns and one or two highly skilled interns; it could institute an additional element of intern-to-intern mentoring that would help reduce the intensity of staff supervision.
I have both supervised interns and been an intern several times over. I a skilled intern who has gone back to graduate school after working in one area of the field for almost 10 years. I have completed 3 internships with an ongoing 4th and can say with some confidence, if there is not a staff member dedicated to the supervision of a larger number of interns, none of the interns will be very successful and the minimal amount of divided time that partially dedicated staff can invest will be wasted. I quit an internship that had too many interns to one supervisor who also had other duties. The museum lost out on a skilled intern because they were spread too thinly to support me even minimally. Of course having too many interns to too few staff is frustrating; it goes both ways if interns don't get enough access to the people who are supposed to be teaching them. If interns knew everything they could learn on the job, why would they intern? Why wouldn't they just try to get a job? Is it possible to poll your previous interns about strengths and weaknesses of their experiences at your institution and about the adequacy of the teaching/supervision they received? This information might help in selecting interns who are appropriate for the level of supervision and teaching that the institution is able to provide.
Conversely, I was very unskilled when I began my first internship and had not yet considered going into the field; in fact, I had absolutely no idea what I wanted to do and only was 9 months from graduating with my BA. I was the only intern at my institution and had an involved supervisor who knew what to delegate and what to do alongside me. That experience directly led to me working in visitor services and museum education for the next ten years. Another internship I did along the way allowed me to expand into administrative aspects and ultimately led me back to school. Graduate school internships have opened my eyes to how much I LOVE the tedium of collections management. They have also taught me how to ask for the opportunities I need to learn and when I am being asked for work that is not reasonable.
Good luck, Alex!
Lissa Kramer
Master's Candidate
Museology Graduate Program
University of Washington
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Daniel Lay <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I have a history student as an exhibit intern this semester. He's really sharp with building mounts and handling artwork. He's a great asset to have for a few months. Last semester, he didn't know he wanted to work in a museum, but in the three months he's been working here, he knows that's what he wants to do. He didn't even know building exhibitions was a career option. So this internship is shaping his life, and adding a good professional to our field.
I've turned down interns who I thought would be black hole of staff time. But if a student is professional, and has good follow-up, I'll take a risk on them.
Daniel
On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:34 AM, John Marks <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
My best intern of all time loved history, but she REALLY loved having things in order - her cataloging and organizational skills were impeccable. You should definitely ask if they love [the tasks you really need done] - yes, there will be history along the way, but s/he needs to looovvee doing layout for publications, or scanning photos, or doing marketing. A love of history is why we apply our skills to this career, but we have to love doing certain tasks, too. (yeah, yeah, "love" is stretching it some days, I know....)
John Marks Curator of Collections & Exhibits Geneva (NY) Historical Society
On 4/17/2012 12:09 PM, Christa McCay wrote:
Hello All,
My question is about interns. After having recently interviewing over 20 interns for the summer semester (fyi, we are a staff of 4 and will have more interns then staff at the Museum this summer), I have begun to feel that potential interns think that a love of history is enough to get them a position. Is it really enough?
I have begun to feel that no it?s not. Often times they don?t have the experience with basic computer programs or with graphic design programs (mainly exhibits and marketing interns). I understand with this economy getting an internship and experience is the best for their resume and for getting a job after college. Also I understand that people need to start their experience somewhere,but most of these students don?t want to be in the Museum world when they graduate and often times assume that they will get to ?play? with cool artifacts all day. We all know that the truth is, there is a lot of paperwork involved with maintaining a collection along with data entry, both of which are not glamorous or very exciting.
I know that our job is to teach interns but like many of us, we are juggling multiple tasks to make up for the positions that are currently empty and can?t be filled due to budget. Our teaching and training time is limited. I do want to have interns with a passion for history but also a passion to work in Museums. I sometimes feel like my time was wasted trying to teach and train someone who just wanted to do this for fun.
I am sorry if this sounds like whining or sour grapes but I would like to know from others if a love of history is enough?
Sincerely,
Christa McCay, M.H.P. Registrar Marietta Museum of History
1 Depot Street, Ste. 200 Marietta, GA 30060 770-794-5726
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Dear All,
This is an interesting topic. I write from the perspective of an
independent curator who has worked with interns at a variety of
different museums and had independent interns as research assistants on
various projects.
Is love of history enough for interns? Perhaps it is enough to get them
in the door to offer their time. The value of internship is that it
affords the youths an opportunity to see the huge amount of unglamorous
work necessary to plan a show or event or even to just keep the doors
open and the lights on.
Maybe it would be best for the students to have internships their first
year of college so they would see the real day-to-day life they'd be
leading as//a museum professional/before/ they become entranced in the
the ever-fascinating study and research of a discipline and spend tens
of thousands of dollars on tuition. I have seen many cases where
/excellent/ /students/ become repulsed and depressed when confronted
with the reality that every workday will not be spent authoring a major
text or researching wonderful objects. They tend to change their majors....
A delicate, but essential first step in an internship is making it clear
that they will be learning, but, /work is not the same as school./
Academic situations these days sometimes seem pressured into assuming a
certain element of "infotainment" - wherein information is being
conveyed, but it must be in an interesting manner that the students find
entertaining and enjoyable. If they don't think they'd like something,
they don't have to try doing it...... Work, is mission-driven. One does
whatever needs done to help reach the goal. One learns by doing and
learns by observing others' behavior. An internship is not 15 weeks of
paid day-care in a cultural milieu.
The students with whom I have worked have always been well versed in
history, research, and academic writing/already/, so I have tried to
offer them work to do that would give them the unglamorous, but totally
necessary skills that will set them apart from their other bright,
well-studied peers when applying for entry-level jobs: writing
jargon-free one page press releases for the general public; writing
succinct jargon-free cover or inquiry letters; compiling bibliographies
in perfect CMS style; researching and obtaining reproduction rights;
accurately compiling photo credits, acknowledgements and drafting thank
you notes; re-formatting material from a variety of sources - texts,
photos, etc. into useful reference material; reading, editing and
fact-checking anything written in the office; rescaling and formatting
photo images; filing and organizing material; and especially, checking
and re-checking the correct spelling of peoples' names, foundations
names, donor names - everything regarding getting the boring basic (but
essential) details accurate, etc. Also, the basics of always being
prompt, meeting deadlines /no matter what/, and realizing that one must
patiently re-do and re-work projects over and over and over again. If
they aren't more adept at computer programs than I am, - the basics-
Word, Exel, Photoshop - I insist that they get up to speed, or indicate
that they will perish out in the "real world."
They are not usually excited at first, but most of them (who proved to
be serious and who /did love history enough/) were quick to see that
they were gaining the power of organizing a book from end to end, or
being able to gracefully approach a lender, or learning all the other
things that will make them indispensable. And they have had a very good
track record of getting their first jobs.
In return for the interns' efforts, I feel responsible to be forever
after "on call" to listen, encourage, advise, and write endless numbers
of reference letters. It is a pleasure to see them flourish.
Good luck to you, Christa, and all your young charges.
Larry List
303 Park Avenue South
New York, New York
#315 10010
646-761-7489
On 4/17/2012 12:09 PM, Christa McCay wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> My question is about interns. After having recently interviewing over
> 20 interns for the summer semester (fyi, we are a staff of 4 and will
> have more interns then staff at the Museum this summer), I have begun
> to feel that potential interns think that a love of history is enough
> to get them a position. Is it really enough?
> I have begun to feel that no it?s not. Often times they don?t have
> the experience with basic computer programs or with graphic design
> programs (mainly exhibits and marketing interns). I understand with
> this economy getting an internship and experience is the best for
> their resume and for getting a job after college. Also I understand
> that people need to start their experience somewhere,but most of these
> students don?t want to be in the Museum world when they graduate and
> often times assume that they will get to ?play? with cool artifacts
> all day. We all know that the truth is, there is a lot of paperwork
> involved with maintaining a collection along with data entry, both of
> which are not glamorous or very exciting.
> I know that our job is to teach interns but like many of us, we are
> juggling multiple tasks to make up for the positions that are
> currently empty and can?t be filled due to budget. Our teaching and
> training time is limited. I do want to have interns with a passion
> for history but also a passion to work in Museums. I sometimes feel
> like my time was wasted trying to teach and train someone who just
> wanted to do this for fun.
>
> I am sorry if this sounds like whining or sour grapes but I would like
> to know from others if a love of history is enough?
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Christa McCay, M.H.P.
> Registrar
> Marietta Museum of History
> 1 Depot Street, Ste. 200
> Marietta, GA 30060
> 770-794-5726
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Dear All,
This is an interesting topic. I write from the perspective of an
independent curator who has worked with interns at a variety of
different museums and had independent interns as research assistants
on various projects.
Is love of history enough for interns? Perhaps it is enough to get
them in the door to offer their time. The value of internship is
that it affords the youths an opportunity to see the huge amount of
unglamorous work necessary to plan a show or event or even to just
keep the doors open and the lights on.
Maybe it would be best for the students to have internships their
first year of college so they would see the real day-to-day life
they'd be leading asa museum professional before
they become entranced in the the ever-fascinating study and research
of a discipline and spend tens of thousands of dollars on tuition. I
have seen many cases where excellentstudents become
repulsed and depressed when confronted with the reality that every
workday will not be spent authoring a major text or researching
wonderful objects. They tend to change their majors....
A delicate, but essential first step in an internship is making it
clear that they will be learning, but, work is not the same as
school. Academic situations these days sometimes seem
pressured into assuming a certain element of "infotainment" -
wherein information is being conveyed, but it must be in an
interesting manner that the students find entertaining and
enjoyable. If they don't think they'd like something, they don't
have to try doing it...... Work, is mission-driven. One does
whatever needs done to help reach the goal. One learns by doing and
learns by observing others' behavior. An internship is not 15 weeks
of paid day-care in a cultural milieu.
The students with whom I have worked have always been well versed in
history, research, and academic writing already, so I have
tried to offer them work to do that would give them the unglamorous,
but totally necessary skills that will set them apart from their
other bright, well-studied peers when applying for entry-level jobs:
writing jargon-free one page press releases for the general public;
writing succinct jargon-free cover or inquiry letters; compiling
bibliographies in perfect CMS style; researching and obtaining
reproduction rights; accurately compiling photo credits,
acknowledgements and drafting thank you notes; re-formatting
material from a variety of sources - texts, photos, etc. into useful
reference material; reading, editing and fact-checking anything
written in the office; rescaling and formatting photo images; filing
and organizing material; and especially, checking and re-checking
the correct spelling of peoples' names, foundations names, donor
names - everything regarding getting the boring basic (but
essential) details accurate, etc. Also, the basics of always being
prompt, meeting deadlines no matter what, and realizing that
one must patiently re-do and re-work projects over and over and over
again. If they aren't more adept at computer programs than I am, -
the basics- Word, Exel, Photoshop - I insist that they get up to
speed, or indicate that they will perish out in the "real world."
They are not usually excited at first, but most of them (who proved
to be serious and who did love history enough) were quick to
see that they were gaining the power of organizing a book from end
to end, or being able to gracefully approach a lender, or learning
all the other things that will make them indispensable. And they
have had a very good track record of getting their first jobs.
In return for the interns' efforts, I feel responsible to be forever
after "on call" to listen, encourage, advise, and write endless
numbers of reference letters. It is a pleasure to see them flourish.
Good luck to you, Christa, and all your young charges.
Larry List
303 Park Avenue South
New York, New York
#315 10010
646-761-7489
On 4/17/2012 12:09 PM, Christa McCay wrote:
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type="cite">Hello All,
My question is about interns. After having recently interviewing
over 20 interns for the summer semester (fyi, we are a staff of 4
and will have more interns then staff at the Museum this summer),
I have begun to feel that potential interns think that a love of
history is enough to get them a position. Is it really enough?
I have begun to feel that no it?s not. Often times they don?t
have the experience with basic computer programs or with graphic
design programs (mainly exhibits and marketing interns). I
understand with this economy getting an internship and experience
is the best for their resume and for getting a job after college.
Also I understand that people need to start their experience
somewhere,but most of these students don?t want to be in the
Museum world when they graduate and often times assume that they
will get to ?play? with cool artifacts all day. We all know that
the truth is, there is a lot of paperwork involved with
maintaining a collection along with data entry, both of which are
not glamorous or very exciting.
I know that our job is to teach interns but like many of us, we
are juggling multiple tasks to make up for the positions that are
currently empty and can?t be filled due to budget. Our teaching
and training time is limited. I do want to have interns with a
passion for history but also a passion to work in Museums. I
sometimes feel like my time was wasted trying to teach and train
someone who just wanted to do this for fun.
I am sorry if this sounds like whining or sour grapes but I would
like to know from others if a love of history is enough?
Sincerely,
Christa McCay, M.H.P.
Registrar
Marietta Museum of History
1 Depot Street, Ste. 200
Marietta, GA 30060
770-794-5726
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In the 1950s, artist Benjamin Byrer painted seven large murals for the Hall of the Universe at Pittsburgh's original Buhl Planetarium and Institute of Popular Science. These murals were "temporarily" placed in storage in the 1980s, when the Hall of the Universe was replaced by a new thematic exhibit on optics, light, and perception.
In 1991, The Buhl Planetarium and Institute of Popular Science building became an educational annex of the newly opened Carnegie Science Center. Officials of The Carnegie Science Center chose not to redisplay these murals. Hence, they were given back to the artist.
This artist, a native of Canton, Ohio, then decided to donate the murals to his hometown planetarium, the Hoover-Price Planetarium in Canton. These murals now hang in the Jane Williams Mahoney Mezzanine of the Hoover-Price Planetarium.
More information on these murals:
http://buhlplanetarium2.tripod.com/Buhlexhibits.htm#byrer
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Author of History Web Sites on the Internet --
* Buhl Planetarium, Pittsburgh:
< http://buhlplanetarium.tripod.com >
* Adler Planetarium, Chicago:
< http://adlerplanetarium.tripod.com >
* Astronomer, Educator, Optician John A. Brashear:
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* Andrew Carnegie & Carnegie Libraries:
< http://andrewcarnegie.tripod.com >
* Civil War Museum of Andrew Carnegie Free Library:
< http://garespypost.tripod.com >
* Duquesne Incline cable-car railway, Pittsburgh:
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In the 1950s, artist Benjamin Byrer painted seven large murals for the Hall of the Universe at Pittsburgh's original Buhl Planetarium and Institute of Popular Science. These murals were "temporarily" placed in storage in the 1980s, when the Hall of the Universe was replaced by a new thematic exhibit on optics, light, and perception.
In 1991, The Buhl Planetarium and Institute of Popular Science building became an educational annex of the newly opened Carnegie Science Center. Officials of The Carnegie Science Center chose not to redisplay these murals. Hence, they were given back to the artist.
This artist, a native of Canton, Ohio, then decided to donate the murals to his hometown planetarium, the Hoover-Price Planetarium in Canton. These murals now hang in the Jane Williams Mahoney Mezzanine of the Hoover-Price Planetarium.
I would be interested in hearing how other museums have dealt with deaccessions returned to the living artist. If you have experience in this area and would be willing to share, please contact me off list at [log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask].
Thanks for any help.
Regards,
Gail
Gail Kana Anderson
Deputy Director/Curator of Collections
Fred Jones Jr. Museum of Art, the University of Oklahoma
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2012 Research Post-Doctorate/Post-Graduate at MCI
Applications are invited for a post-doctoral or a post-graduate position at the mass spectrometry and proteomics laboratory at the Smithsonian's Museum Conservation Institute. The aim of the laboratory is to develop mass spectrometry and proteomics technologies relevant to museums' specimens. Projects include but are not limited to: Proteomics, biological dating using various MS techniques such as amino acid racemization; analysis of insoluble proteinaceous or polymeric materials; analysis of paints, inks, etc. using surface ionization techniques; as well as development of portable separation-mass spectrometry devices for onsite chemical/biological analysis. The successful applicant will have a Ph.D. or Master's degree in the area of separation, microfabrication, mass spectrometry, or proteomics. Working experience with Thermo LTQ Orbitrap Veloes, ABI Qstar and 4700 TOF/TOF, as well as with capillary electrophoresis and nano-LC is highly desirable. The position is for one year, with a possibility of an extension for the second year and is available immediately. Qualified applicants should send a letter of interest and resume, including lists of publications and references to Dr. Mehdi Moini ([log in to unmask]).
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Applications are invited for a post-doctoral or a post-graduate position at the mass spectrometry and proteomics laboratory at the Smithsonian's Museum Conservation Institute. The aim of the laboratory is to develop mass spectrometry and proteomics technologies relevant to museums’ specimens. Projects include but are not limited to: Proteomics, biological dating using various MS techniques such as amino acid racemization; analysis of insoluble proteinaceous or polymeric materials; analysis of paints, inks, etc. using surface ionization techniques; as well as development of portable separation-mass spectrometry devices for onsite chemical/biological analysis. The successful applicant will have a Ph.D. or Master’s degree in the area of separation, microfabrication, mass spectrometry, or proteomics. Working experience with Thermo LTQ Orbitrap Veloes, ABI Qstar and 4700 TOF/TOF, as well as with capillary electrophoresis and nano-LC is highly desirable. The position is for one year, with a possibility of an extension for the second year and is available immediately. Qualified applicants should send a letter of interest and resume, including lists of publications and references to Dr. Mehdi Moini ([log in to unmask]).
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First, I'd love to have 20 interns vying to be here - but you don't actually
need to love history to work at a museum, an appreciation, yes. You only
have to love your job! The majority of the interns at the Buggy Museum were
not history majors, nor were they planning to enter into the museum field -
but they were still great interns. Interns here choose a project that helps
them educationally and professionally. I had an education major who created
some school programs for us - complete with the correct standards and tests;
something she needed to be able to do for her intended career and something
that was useful for us. Other interns have created exhibits, both large and
small, while one mapped the contents of a building and yet another created a
year's publicity campaign. Not one was a history major and not one went
into the field. Only my most recent intern (a history major who has a
degree in communications) came here with the plan to enter the museum field,
he is still volunteering because he wants to gain more experience. So if
anyone is seeking an employee - I have an intern you need to interview. Has
it been time consuming for me, as a staff of one to oversee interns,
volunteers and the other participants in the programs that we host - you
bet, but for me, it's worth it. If you are pressed for time and don't want
to teach the basics, change your criteria for an internship and specify the
computer skills, etc that you want them to have. Make sure you express this
to all the departments of whatever universities you get intern applicants
and then you may have a more "select" pool to choose from. PS. One of my
interns was a communications major who didn't know what a preposition was
and didn't know how to research. But she learned a few things, managed to
produce a useable product and her parents made a nice monetary donation to
the museum.
Bronwen Anderson-Sanders
Mifflinburg Buggy Museum
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Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Is a love of history enough for interns?
Hello All,
My question is about interns. After having recently interviewing over
20 interns for the summer semester (fyi, we are a staff of 4 and will
have more interns then staff at the Museum this summer), I have begun
to feel that potential interns think that a love of history is enough
to get them a position. Is it really enough?
I have begun to feel that no it?s not. Often times they don?t have
the experience with basic computer programs or with graphic design
programs (mainly exhibits and marketing interns). I understand with
this economy getting an internship and experience is the best for
their resume and for getting a job after college. Also I understand
that people need to start their experience somewhere,but most of these
students don?t want to be in the Museum world when they graduate and
often times assume that they will get to ?play? with cool artifacts
all day. We all know that the truth is, there is a lot of paperwork
involved with maintaining a collection along with data entry, both of
which are not glamorous or very exciting.
I know that our job is to teach interns but like many of us, we are
juggling multiple tasks to make up for the positions that are
currently empty and can?t be filled due to budget. Our teaching and
training time is limited. I do want to have interns with a passion
for history but also a passion to work in Museums. I sometimes feel
like my time was wasted trying to teach and train someone who just
wanted to do this for fun.
I am sorry if this sounds like whining or sour grapes but I would like
to know from others if a love of history is enough?
Sincerely,
Christa McCay, M.H.P.
Registrar
Marietta Museum of History
1 Depot Street, Ste. 200
Marietta, GA 30060
770-794-5726
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 MARIN HISTORY MUSEUM UNVIELS APP; PUTS MARIN ON THE MAP
The Marin History Museum (MHM), based in San Rafael, joins a select group of prominent institutions with the launch of the Marin History Museum smartphone Application. The Museum is one of less than a dozen museums nationally that have developed applications as part of their public offerings. Other institutions that have developed museum apps include the New York MOMA, the Smithsonian Institutions, the Guggenheim, and the Museum of Natural History. The Museum is currently evolving its organizational focus to emphasize a more user-friendly community experience. Michelle Kaufman, MHM Director takes pride in the museum’s commitment to community-building and posits that “this application is another example of how MHM is actively working to extend our outreach, engage our audience and encourage a more interactive and participatory experience with Marin history, for all who love Marinâ€. Â
The Marin History Museum App officially launches on April 26th, and will give users access to the largest and most extensive collection of Marin County related historic content. The non-profit Marin History Museum is the steward of the largest collection of artifacts, photographs and ephemera related to Marin County and the Museum is solely supported by community donations and contributions of individual donors. The museum is fortunate to have received a generous donation to fund this application, as the majority of museum apps that are developed by large institutions are done so with significantly higher budgets and resources. Marin History Museum is doing a lot with a little and the app puts MHM on the map, too. This app allows MHM to join the ranks of some heavy-hitting cultural organizations and according to Kaufman, “we are thrilled to be the only county history museum with such an advanced mobile application. This is an exciting era in our own organization’s history and we are so grateful to have this opportunity to share this resource with Marinâ€. Â
The Marin History Museum App allows users to travel through the history of Marin County by viewing an interactive map of the county with over 250 points of historical interest marked by geo-coded icons within the first week of its launch. Users can click each icon to gain access to virtual exhibitions of audio, video, and licensable photographs from the vast Marin History Museum Archives. The historic photos are drawn from MHM’s archives and collections. Additional features allow you to create your own “virtual tour†of Marin County’s Historic hotspots and give users GPS-like proximity to historic sites. “It’s a great educational tool and tremendous resource for Marin residents and visitors alike to learn more about the history all around them and it’s impact on the history of California,†said George Thelen, Museum Volunteer and Project Manager on the App. “This App will ultimately give users access to a vast  ‘Virtual Museum’ of Marin History Museum digitized content & archives.â€
While the majority of museum apps are directly related to an onsite exhibit, the MHM app goes beyond the brick and mortar walls or the Museum and allows users to explore the rich history of beautiful Marin County. Â Of the 250 historic locations marked on the map, there are ancient Miwok Indian sites, historic residences, regional & local historical societies, movie filming locations, state & national historic landmarks and more than 75 historic shipwrecks off the Marin Coast dating back to 1595. Each mapped site includes an image and text describing its historic significance.
The App will be updated monthly and is available for FREE for a limited time on iPhone, iPad and Android platforms online on the APP Store. Â The Marin History Museum App was made possible by a donation from Marin County resident, Michael J. Sullivan for Catherine Coffey, and was created in a partnership between the Museum and ClearMetrics, developer of the popular Time Shutter, San Francisco Application.
About Marin History Museum Â
 Founded in 1935, the Marin History Museum celebrates the traditions of innovation and creativity of the people of Marin County. Through exhibitions and educational programs, the Museum inspires honor for the past, an understanding of the present, and an imagination of the future. The Marin History Museum is a non-profit 501(c)(3) corporation and therefore all donations are tax deductible in accordance with IRS guidelines. The Museum does not receive tax dollars from the city, county, state or federal government and therefore we rely completely on the public's tax-deductible contributions  Â
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You can find them at:
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We had such a great time and encourage you to follow our work and progress. We are developing a museum of the Underground Railroad through a historic site. Our historical organization does walking and bus tours, an annual conference, alternative 4th of July celebration and many other activities.
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The National Endowment for the Humanities Division of Preservation and
Access is proud to announce the launch of our completely redesigned NEH
website (www.neh.gov)! Besides easier access to applying for, and
managing a grant, the new site will showcase featured projects, news
about NEH staff, and NEH-funded online content that you can explore.
We especially encourage you to visit our Preservation and Access
division page (http://www.neh.gov/divisions/preservation) where we will
highlight news and activity from all of our division's grant programs:
Humanities Collections and Reference Resources, Preservation Assistance
Grants for Smaller Institutions, Sustaining Cultural Heritage
Collections, Preservation and Access Research and Development, Education
and Training, Documenting Endangered Languages, and the National Digital
Newspaper Program, as well as Chronicling America
(chroniclingamerica.org), the site jointly sponsored by the National
Endowment for the Humanities and the Library of Congress.
For our launch, you will find feature stories about four awarded
projects - the online Encyclopedia Virginia, the Frick Collection's
Digital Image Archive, The Southern Courier digital archive, and the
Walters Art Museum's digitization of medieval manuscripts - as well as a
fun history of NEH's home, the Old Post Office Building, as documented
through Chronicling America content. You will also find the latest
updates about our upcoming grant deadlines (Preservation Assistance
Grants and Research and Development) and details about future conference
travel activity by our program officers.
More than just a catalog of recent news and events, the Preservation and
Access page will explore trends and developments in the preservation
community, from the latest tools and best practices, advances in digital
preservation, innovative sustainable solutions to complex preservation
problems, new training programs, preserving audiovisual and born-digital
collections, and creative collaborations from small historical societies
and museums to research university archives and libraries. We hope to
show in the coming weeks and months the diversity of institutional
activity as reflected by the many awards that we have made in all our
grant programs.
We will be updating content on our division page regularly, so stay
informed about all of the latest features, projects, funding
announcements, and news by following us on Twitter: @NEH_PresAccess.
We welcome your feedback about the site or ideas for a story that you
think we should feature. Whether you are a past NEH awardee, or a
scholar, educator, student, preservationist, administrator, or just
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We especially encourage you to visit our Preservation and Access division page (http://www.neh.gov/divisions/preservation) where we will highlight news and activity from all of our division’s grant programs: Humanities Collections and Reference Resources, Preservation Assistance Grants for Smaller Institutions, Sustaining Cultural Heritage Collections, Preservation and Access Research and Development, Education and Training, Documenting Endangered Languages, and the National Digital Newspaper Program, as well as Chronicling America (chroniclingamerica.org), the site jointly sponsored by the National Endowment for the Humanities and the Library of Congress.
For our launch, you will find feature stories about four awarded projects – the online Encyclopedia Virginia, the Frick Collection’s Digital Image Archive, The Southern Courier digital archive, and the Walters Art Museum’s digitization of medieval manuscripts – as well as a fun history of NEH’s home, the Old Post Office Building, as documented through Chronicling America content. You will also find the latest updates about our upcoming grant deadlines (Preservation Assistance Grants and Research and Development) and details about future conference travel activity by our program officers.
More than just a catalog of recent news and events, the Preservation and Access page will explore trends and developments in the preservation community, from the latest tools and best practices, advances in digital preservation, innovative sustainable solutions to complex preservation problems, new training programs, preserving audiovisual and born-digital collections, and creative collaborations from small historical societies and museums to research university archives and libraries. We hope to show in the coming weeks and months the diversity of institutional activity as reflected by the many awards that we have made in all our grant programs.
We will be updating content on our division page regularly, so stay informed about all of the latest features, projects, funding announcements, and news by following us on Twitter: @NEH_PresAccess.
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Paid Internships at the Historical Society of Montgomery County
Norristown, PA
Curatorial/Archival Internships available
The Historical Society of Montgomery County was established in 1881 and
incorporated in 1884. Its mission is to preserve the county's rich
heritage and to tell the stories of the many people who have lived and
worked there. The HSMC headquarters on DeKalb Street in Norristown
houses its museum and library collections.
Description:
Curatorial/Archival Interns will work under the direction of
professional staff to organize and document the collections at HSMC.
Daily duties may include the cataloging, organization and storage of
artifacts & archival material as well as working with PastPerfect &
Microsoft Office software.
Qualification: Interns should be pursuing degrees in American History,
Museum Studies, or Library Science or related fields and have good
organizational, written, verbal and interpersonal skills.
These are paid internships ($1500 stipend) in the Philadelphia suburban
region. Length of internship and hours worked per week are flexible,
but a minimum of 120 hours is expected.
Send cover letter & resume to: Karen Wolfe, Executive Director at:
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Curatorial/Archival Internships available
The Historical Society of Montgomery County was established in 1881 and incorporated in 1884. Its mission is to preserve the county's rich heritage and to tell the stories of the many people who have lived and worked there. The HSMC headquarters on DeKalb Street in Norristown houses its museum and library collections.
Description:
Curatorial/Archival Interns will work under the direction of professional staff to organize and document the collections at HSMC. Daily duties may include the cataloging, organization and storage of artifacts & archival material as well as working with PastPerfect & Microsoft Office software.
Qualification: Interns should be pursuing degrees in American History, Museum Studies, or Library Science or related fields and have good organizational, written, verbal and interpersonal skills.
These are paid internships ($1500 stipend) in the Philadelphia suburban region. Length of internship and hours worked per week are flexible, but a minimum of 120 hours is expected.
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Subject: When is the Vatican becoming a museum?
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These breaking news are very interesting ... is something cooking in the
Vatican's glacial oven?
Our First Most Cherished Liberty (12 April 2012)
http://usccb.org/issues-and-action/religious-liberty/upload/Our_First_Most_Cherished_Liberty.pdf
Reaffirmation of Women's Rights Key to Rio+20 Success (16 April 2012)
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews7451
CDF and USCCB announce 'renewal' of LCWR (18 April 2012)
http://www.americamagazine.org/blog/entry.cfm?blog_id=2&entry_idP66
On the statement by the American bishops, perhaps they should teach more
about natural family planning and less about religious freedom ... it is
well known that the Vatican has been trying to block UN gender equality
initiatives for many years ... and now it seems that American nuns are
going to get fried ...
I am not concerned about the nuns getting fried; they can handle the
heat. I am not concerned about the church either, for we have the
Lord's promise that "the gates of hell will not prevail." My concern is
for the bishops, who failed so miserably to resolve the child sexual
abuse crisis and now seem so diligent to reassert themselves as the
"authentic teachers of faith and morals."
Much good can come out of this. Hope it becomes an opportunity to
recognize the difference between clear cut issues, such as the right to
life and the Lord's right to call women to ordained ministry, and other
issues of human sexuality in which there are many shades of gray. Surely
the Vatican knows that even for Catholics, in matters that have not been
infallibly defined as revealed truth, there must be room for open and
free discussion.
Isn't it time for the entire Vatican to become a museum?
Luis
Luis T. Gutiérrez, PhD, PE
Mother Pelican: A Journal of Solidarity & Sustainability
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Hello everyone,
Some art handlers I work with are trying to find a company to make a custom
J-bar extension. Thus far google has come up short, so I'm wondering if
anyone out there has a lead.
An art transport company we work with has a custom extension, but it was
made so long ago that nobody there remembers where it came from!
Any and all advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you all in advance!!
All the best,
Mary
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Some art handlers I work with are trying to find a company to make a custom J-bar extension. Thus far google has come up short, so I'm wondering if anyone out there has a lead.
An art transport company we work with has a custom extension, but it was made so long ago that nobody there remembers where it came from!
Any and all advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you all in advance!!
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Subject: Get Ready for MayDay with a Giveaway from BACC!
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*BACC wants to help you get ready for MayDay!*
* *
Thanks to generous sponsorship from University Products and ProText, we are
excited to offer three fantastic MayDay-themed packages.
For a chance to win, please visit BACC’s Facebook page (
http://www.facebook.com/BalboaArtConservationCenter) and “Like” us to stay
up to date on the latest news at the Center, workshop announcements, and
collections care resources. Just fill out a brief entry form to tell us
what collections-based cultural institution you are affiliate with and
where you are. No need to feel left out if you are a private collector—we
will have a separate drawing just for you. Three winners will be chosen at
random on MayDay (May 1st, 2012).
*Prizes:*
*For institutions in California, Oregon, Washington, or Arizona: *A
React-Pak, a copy of Heritage Preservation's *Field Guide to Emergency
Response*, the Emergency Response and Salvage Wheel, and a printed copy of
one of BACC’s *Guides to Emergency Preparedness Resources*. Total value of
the package is estimated at $300!
*For institutions in all other US states: *A React-Pak, a copy of Heritage
Preservation's *Field Guide to Emergency Response*, and the Emergency
Response and Salvage Wheel. Total value of the package is estimated at $275!
*For private collectors: *A Moisture Resistant Document Box and a copy
of *Caring
for Your Family Treasures*. Total value of the package is estimated at $35!
*Enter now for your chance to win!*
http://www.facebook.com/BalboaArtConservationCenter
Promoted by Heritage Preservation and other members of the Heritage
Emergency National Task Force, MayDay encourages organizations to take one
simple step to protect the art, artifacts, records, books, and historic
sites they hold in trust.
For more information about MayDay, visit
http://www.heritagepreservation.org/programs/tflessons/MayDay.html.
*Balboa Art Conservation Center (BACC)*
*Western Region Field Service Office*
Elise Ciez
Field Service Project Manager
mailing address: PO Box 3755, San Diego, CA 92163
phone: 619-236-9702 fax: 619-236-0141
BACC website: www.bacc.org
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For a chance to win, please visit BACC’s Facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/BalboaArtConservationCenter) and “Like” us to stay up to date on the latest news at the Center, workshop announcements, and collections care resources. Just fill out a brief entry form to tell us what collections-based cultural institution you are affiliate with and where you are. No need to feel left out if you are a private collector—we will have a separate drawing just for you. Three winners will be chosen at random on MayDay (May 1st, 2012).
Prizes:
For institutions in California, Oregon, Washington, or Arizona: A React-Pak, a copy of Heritage Preservation's Field Guide to Emergency Response, the Emergency Response and Salvage Wheel, and a printed copy of one of BACC’s Guides to Emergency Preparedness Resources. Total value of the package is estimated at $300!
For institutions in all other US states: A React-Pak, a copy of Heritage Preservation's Field Guide to Emergency Response, and the Emergency Response and Salvage Wheel. Total value of the package is estimated at $275!
For private collectors: A Moisture Resistant Document Box and a copy of Caring for Your Family Treasures. Total value of the package is estimated at $35!
Promoted by Heritage Preservation and other members of the Heritage Emergency National Task Force, MayDay encourages organizations to take one simple step to protect the art, artifacts, records, books, and historic sites they hold in trust.
For more information about MayDay, visit http://www.heritagepreservation.org/programs/tflessons/MayDay.html.
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Subject: Archives Management online course begins May 7
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MS234: Archives Management
Instructor: Susan Duhl
Price: $475
Dates: May 7 through June 1, 2012
Location: online at www.museumclasses.org
Description:
Archives include flat paper, photographs, bound pamphlets, books, small
3-dimensional objects, and magnetic media. The Archives Management
course covers an introduction to the materials found in archives and
typical use of these materials including use patterns, retrieval needs,
finding aids, handling and exhibition. The last half of the course
details optimum storage options for archival materials. Storage includes
furniture, storage techniques, standardized and specialized housing such
as folders and boxes and custom-made housings.
Logistics:
Participants in the Archives Management course work through sections on
their own. Instructor Susan Duhl is available for scheduled email
support. Materials and resources include online literature, slide
lectures, dialog between students and online chats led by the
instructor. The course is limited to 20 participants.
Archives Management lasts four weeks. Please sign up at
http://www.museumclasses.org and pay at
http://www.collectioncare.org/tas/tas.html If you have trouble please
contact Helen Alten at [log in to unmask]
The Instructor:
Susan Duhl is an Art Conservator in private practice specializing in art
on paper and archival collections. She provides workshops, preservation
consultations and conservation treatment to institutions and private
individuals throughout the world. Susan treats works on paper, including
prints, watercolors, drawings, wallpaper, documents, and 3-dimensional
paper objects. Her work includes disaster response and recovery,
consultations and collection surveys to determine condition, treatment
and long-term care recommendations, and helping clients prioritize
treatment needs. Her recent clients include the Library of Congress, the
National Archives and Records Administration, The Woodmere Art Museum,
and LaSalle and Lehigh University Art Museums. Susan completed her
Master of Art degree and Certificate of Advanced Study in Art
Conservation from the State University College at Buffalo Art
Conservation Program. She is a Professional Associate of the American
Institute for Conservation of Historic & Artistic Works (AIC) and
founding member of the Art Conservator Alliance,
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Subject: Accessioned item has been used in museum (desk), how to proceed?
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Hello all,
I have just become the new director of a small rural museum. We have found
a couple of things - a desk and a church pew - which have been used by
volunteers (the desk is our geneaologist's desk) and were just discovered
to have been accessioned artifacts. The team just noticed in moving things
around that these pieces had accession numbers, and thus are parts of our
collection. So, I am wondering how to proceed; should we...
Maintain the accessioned status and stop using the items?
Maintain the accessioned status and continue using the items, perhaps with
plexi covering the desk top, etc. or archival fabris covering the church
pew?
De-accession the desk and pew to be used in the museum?
This is a tough one, and as an emerging professional, I have not run into
this issue yet. Thank you for your suggestions,
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Hello all,
I have just become the new director of a small rural museum. We have found a couple of things - a desk and a church pew - which have been used by volunteers (the desk is our geneaologist's desk) and were just discovered to have been accessioned artifacts. The team just noticed in moving things around that these pieces had accession numbers, and thus are parts of our collection. So, I am wondering how to proceed; should we...
Maintain the accessioned status and stop using the items?
Maintain the accessioned status and continue using the items, perhaps with plexi covering the desk top, etc. or archival fabris covering the church pew?
De-accession the desk and pew to be used in the museum?
This is a tough one, and as an emerging professional, I have not run into this issue yet. Thank you for your suggestions,
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Subject: Re: Accessioned item has been used in museum (desk),
how to proceed?
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It is not necessarily a simple answer. At my first museum job, the staff in
the 1950s had been told to accession everything, and they did. I had a
record for the contents of the paint cabinet in the woodshop.
So it depends on what the objects are and how they fit in with your museum.
If they are clearly modern objects purchased for use in the office, then by
all means deaccession them. If they are historic pieces, then it is better
to stop using them while you do research to determine if they are
appropriate objects for the collection or not. If they belong in the
collection, it is best to stop using them and get replacements. I am not a
big fan of the middle option.using collections objects puts them at risk.
Either the objects deserve a high standard of care, or they should be
removed from the collection.
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Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Accessioned item has been used in museum (desk), how to
proceed?
Hello all,
I have just become the new director of a small rural museum. We have found a
couple of things - a desk and a church pew - which have been used by
volunteers (the desk is our geneaologist's desk) and were just discovered to
have been accessioned artifacts. The team just noticed in moving things
around that these pieces had accession numbers, and thus are parts of our
collection. So, I am wondering how to proceed; should we...
Maintain the accessioned status and stop using the items?
Maintain the accessioned status and continue using the items, perhaps with
plexi covering the desk top, etc. or archival fabris covering the church
pew?
De-accession the desk and pew to be used in the museum?
This is a tough one, and as an emerging professional, I have not run into
this issue yet. Thank you for your suggestions,
--
Emily M. Apple
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It is not necessarily a simple answer. At my first museum job, the staff in the 1950s had been told to accession everything, and they did. I had a record for the contents of the paint cabinet in the woodshop.
So it depends on what the objects are and how they fit in with your museum. If they are clearly modern objects purchased for use in the office, then by all means deaccession them. If they are historic pieces, then it is better to stop using them while you do research to determine if they are appropriate objects for the collection or not. If they belong in the collection, it is best to stop using them and get replacements. I am not a big fan of the middle option…using collections objects puts them at risk. Either the objects deserve a high standard of care, or they should be removed from the collection.
From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Emily Apple Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 5:50 PM To:[log in to unmask] Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Accessioned item has been used in museum (desk), how to proceed?
Hello all,
I have just become the new director of a small rural museum. We have found a couple of things - a desk and a church pew - which have been used by volunteers (the desk is our geneaologist's desk) and were just discovered to have been accessioned artifacts. The team just noticed in moving things around that these pieces had accession numbers, and thus are parts of our collection. So, I am wondering how to proceed; should we...
Maintain the accessioned status and stop using the items?
Maintain the accessioned status and continue using the items, perhaps with plexi covering the desk top, etc. or archival fabris covering the church pew?
De-accession the desk and pew to be used in the museum?
This is a tough one, and as an emerging professional, I have not run into this issue yet. Thank you for your suggestions,
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I can promise you it will not be the first time...
Either treat it like an accessioned object or deaccession it, otherwise it
stays in a legal grey area, and you don't want that.
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Emily Apple <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I have just become the new director of a small rural museum. We have found
> a couple of things - a desk and a church pew - which have been used by
> volunteers (the desk is our geneaologist's desk) and were just discovered
> to have been accessioned artifacts. The team just noticed in moving things
> around that these pieces had accession numbers, and thus are parts of our
> collection. So, I am wondering how to proceed; should we...
>
> Maintain the accessioned status and stop using the items?
> Maintain the accessioned status and continue using the items, perhaps with
> plexi covering the desk top, etc. or archival fabris covering the church
> pew?
> De-accession the desk and pew to be used in the museum?
>
> This is a tough one, and as an emerging professional, I have not run into
> this issue yet. Thank you for your suggestions,
>
> --
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I can promise you it will not be the first time...
Either treat it like an accessioned object or deaccession it, otherwise it stays in a legal grey area, and you don't want that.
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Emily Apple <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hello all,
I have just become the new director of a small rural museum. We have found a couple of things - a desk and a church pew - which have been used by volunteers (the desk is our geneaologist's desk) and were just discovered to have been accessioned artifacts. The team just noticed in moving things around that these pieces had accession numbers, and thus are parts of our collection. So, I am wondering how to proceed; should we...
Maintain the accessioned status and stop using the items?
Maintain the accessioned status and continue using the items, perhaps with plexi covering the desk top, etc. or archival fabris covering the church pew?
De-accession the desk and pew to be used in the museum?
This is a tough one, and as an emerging professional, I have not run into this issue yet. Thank you for your suggestions,
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My museum has a category of accessioned items that allows for functional use. This category is primarily furniture which was originally created for the Museum in 1917. The policy for use though is that they can't be displayed/used in private offices. They must be used in the galleries, public offices (like the director's) or public areas (like the lobby). Once the object starts becoming too worn from use or in danger from some other factor then they are 'retired' to non-functional status. Tables used to serve food or drink must be covered in some type of plastic barrier (plexi, plastic table cloth, etc.). We recently had a volunteer research the furniture and then create an audio guide focusing on her findings. A different take on your institution - the building and its furnishings as artifacts. -Michelle Michelle Gallagher RobertsChief RegistrarNew Mexico Museum of Art
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My museum has a category of accessioned items that allows for functional use. This category is primarily furniture which was originally created for the Museum in 1917. The policy for use though is that they can't be displayed/used in private offices. They must be used in the galleries, public offices (like the director's) or public areas (like the lobby). Once the object starts becoming too worn from use or in danger from some other factor then they are 'retired' to non-functional status. Tables used to serve food or drink must be covered in some type of plastic barrier (plexi, plastic table cloth, etc.).
We recently had a volunteer research the furniture and then create an audio guide focusing on her findings. A different take on your institution - the building and its furnishings as artifacts.
-Michelle
Michelle Gallagher Roberts Chief Registrar New Mexico Museum of Art
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Emily, it all depends on what significance, if any, the items have to your
museum's mission. Secondly, it depends on what your collections policy
says. If the items have good provenance that supports your mission and
policies, and your documentation indicates clear title, then retain them as
accessioned artifacts, "retire" them from use, and put them back in storage
after thoroughly documenting their condition. If they do not fit your
mission, and your policy supports deaccessioning them, then you could go
through that process and retain them as museum property. Then you have a
choice whether to just use them, or to protect them and use them. The
intermediate choice, to maintain them as accessioned artifacts but continue
to use them, must refer back to your policies. If a certain level of care
is mandated for accessioned items, then you are bound to maintain that
level of care. If no such mandate exists - well, maybe you need to revisit
your policy.
Best of luck, and thanks for trying to do the right thing. And thank your
volunteers for being alert to check for numbers.
Anne T. Lane, Collections Manager-at-large
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Emily Apple <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I have just become the new director of a small rural museum. We have found
> a couple of things - a desk and a church pew - which have been used by
> volunteers (the desk is our geneaologist's desk) and were just discovered
> to have been accessioned artifacts. The team just noticed in moving things
> around that these pieces had accession numbers, and thus are parts of our
> collection. So, I am wondering how to proceed; should we...
>
> Maintain the accessioned status and stop using the items?
> Maintain the accessioned status and continue using the items, perhaps with
> plexi covering the desk top, etc. or archival fabris covering the church
> pew?
> De-accession the desk and pew to be used in the museum?
>
> This is a tough one, and as an emerging professional, I have not run into
> this issue yet. Thank you for your suggestions,
>
> --
> Emily M. Apple
> [log in to unmask]
> [log in to unmask]
>
> *"Success is not final, failure is not fatal; it is the courage to
> continue that counts." Winston Churchill
>
> **"Nothing splendid has ever been achieved except by those who dared
> believe that something inside of them was superior to circumstance." Bruce
> Barton***
>
>
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Emily, it all depends on what significance, if any, the items have to your museum's mission. Secondly, it depends on what your collections policy says. If the items have good provenance that supports your mission and policies, and your documentation indicates clear title, then retain them as accessioned artifacts, "retire" them from use, and put them back in storage after thoroughly documenting their condition. If they do not fit your mission, and your policy supports deaccessioning them, then you could go through that process and retain them as museum property. Then you have a choice whether to just use them, or to protect them and use them. The intermediate choice, to maintain them as accessioned artifacts but continue to use them, must refer back to your policies. If a certain level of care is mandated for accessioned items, then you are bound to maintain that level of care. If no such mandate exists - well, maybe you need to revisit your policy.
Best of luck, and thanks for trying to do the right thing. And thank your volunteers for being alert to check for numbers. Anne T. Lane, Collections Manager-at-large
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Emily Apple <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hello all,
I have just become the new director of a small rural museum. We have found a couple of things - a desk and a church pew - which have been used by volunteers (the desk is our geneaologist's desk) and were just discovered to have been accessioned artifacts. The team just noticed in moving things around that these pieces had accession numbers, and thus are parts of our collection. So, I am wondering how to proceed; should we...
Maintain the accessioned status and stop using the items?
Maintain the accessioned status and continue using the items, perhaps with plexi covering the desk top, etc. or archival fabris covering the church pew?
De-accession the desk and pew to be used in the museum?
This is a tough one, and as an emerging professional, I have not run into this issue yet. Thank you for your suggestions,
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Oklahoma State University is hiring a registrar for our collection and upcoming move into a new 15,000 sq ft space in downtown Stillwater, OK. See below for details. To apply, please visit the OSU HR website at http://www.okstate.edu/osu_per/hr/empopport.php -- for full consideration, applications should be submitted by May 18, 2012.
Louise Siddons
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Job Posting: Art Registrar, Oklahoma State University Museum of Art
Job Summary:
The OSU Museum of Art includes the Gardiner Art Gallery and the downtown Postal Plaza, which is in the process of being developed into a state-of-the-art venue for exhibitions, collections storage, research, and teaching. The permanent collection includes over 1500 objects including significant representation of African art, works on paper, 20th-century American modernism, and a broad teaching collection. The purpose of this position is to provide all aspects of registrarial duties including activities involving the permanent collections, loans and exhibitions, access to collections for scholarly research and in support of University classes, and day-to-day operations. The Registrar supports the curatorial staff, ensuring safe and proper handling, transportation, exhibition, storage, and documentation of permanent collections and loans. The Registrar also trains and supervises student interns.
Specific Responsibilities:
Permanent Collections (40%)
-Provide active registration duties for the permanent collections including maintaining and developing the museum’s collections information system (FileMaker). Enters and proofs new object records, including acquisitions, loans, temporary deposits and special exhibitions.
-Supervise collection photography, stores photographic collections, maintain rights and reproductions services.
-Work with appraisers for the purposes of permanent collection insurance.
-Conduct Collections Management activities in the areas of accessioning, deaccessioning, inventory control, storage upgrades, and maintenance of object files. Coordinate movement of permanent collection into new Postal Plaza storage facility.
-Process loan requests.
-Record and monitor object movements within and outside of the Museum.
-Make recommendations and arrangements for conservation, generate condition reports, provide proper storage for museum objects.
-Work closely with Museum staff to devise/revise housing and storage methods and provide recommendations and directions for proper object handling and display.
-Act as point person to provide access to the permanent collection and the collection database (including public web portal) as requested by OSU faculty, researchers, or students. Make in-house arrangements for viewing objects from the collection for OSU classes.
Administration (40%)
-Create facility reports; control, monitor, and document conditions in storage and gallery areas, including climate and pest control, in order to maintain current facility reports.
-Provide administrative support for a broad range of activities related to the Permanent Collection, including acquisitions, inventory and storage of objects, collections access and inquiries, intern training, maintenance of collections records, collections re-housing, and other duties and projects as assigned.
-Meet regularly with museum staff to evaluate progress and develop goals, plans, and solutions related to same.
-Work with University legal staff to ensure proper procedures throughout Collections Management.
Donations, Loans and Exhibitions (15%)
-Provide active registration duties for donation and loan objects in transit.
-Plan, arrange, and record domestic and international loan and exhibition shipping details to and from the museum. Work with lenders, fine art shippers, museum and other institution staff, and other involved parties, as applicable, to coordinate, gather and communicate details and information relating to crate design and construction, packing, freight forwarding, storage, and
travel arrangements for couriers. Perform courier duties as necessary.
-Support in-house exhibitions team to plan packing/unpacking and installation/deinstallation, movement to storage and/or transfer to shipper; direct unpacking/packing, establish and prepare condition reports and condition report notebooks; prepare damage reports as necessary; obtain and incorporate digital images in reports.
Professional Development and Other (5%)
-Participate in training and workshops in order to maintain and develop skills
-Other duties as assigned
Required Qualifications:
Bachelor’s degree in Art History, Museum Studies, or a related field. Three years related museum or gallery experience in registration and/or collection management. Candidates must have a knowledge of standard museum policies and procedures, AAM standards, and museum cataloging systems. Experience with standards of proper care and storage of museum objects is necessary
Requires strong organizational and problem-solving skills and an attention to detail. Good communication skills in speech and written work are necessary.
Must be able to regularly lift and/or move a minimum of twenty five (25) pounds.
Requires strong organizational and problem-solving skills and an attention to detail. Good communication skills in speech and written work are necessary.
Must be able to regularly lift and/or move a minimum of twenty five (25) pounds.
Skills include:
-Safe handling of sensitive art objects, Good eye-hand coordination and dexterity in the care and handling of valuable and irreplaceable artifacts.
-Matting and framing.
-Artwork installation and creative exhibition arrangement
-Organizational skills to successfully store information and physical objects.
-Ability to meet deadlines and handle multiple tasks simultaneously
-Ability to interact with all employees and volunteers at all levels of responsibility
-Excellent written and oral communication skills; strong interpersonal skills. Must be able to communicate clearly with student workers, co-workers, donors, and the public.
-Public relation skills to promote exhibitions and donations through news media.
-Ability to maintain the highest ethics as they relate to all aspects of registrarial endeavor, and to understand and maintain the highest levels of confidentiality.
Knowledge of:
-General understanding of conservation practices and art history.
-Collection management and museum insurance practices
-Exhibition loan and traveling exhibit practices
-Damage prevention methods to protect against: light, humidity, mold, heat, etc...
-Artwork preparation for exhibit hanging and display
-Safe storage and shipping methods.
Proficiency with:
-PC/Mac computer Platforms
-Microsoft Word, PhotoShop, FileMaker Pro
-internet and library research
Preferred Qualifications:
Master's degree in Museum Studies, Art History, Arts Administration, or related field, and 5 years of related museum or gallery experience
Skills in handling, moving, lifting and packing museum collections are preferred. Photography skills are preferred.
Application Materials:
Cover letter, resume and names and contact information for three references. For full consideration apply online at jobs.okstate.edu by May 18, 2012. If assistance is needed, contact OSU Human Resources at (405) 744-7401. Position is subject to availability of funding. OSU is an AA/EEO/E-Verify employer committed to diversity. OSU-Stillwater is a tobacco-free campus.
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Oklahoma State University is hiring a registrar for our collection and upcoming move into a new 15,000 sq ft space in downtown Stillwater, OK. See below for details. To apply, please visit the OSU HR website at http://www.okstate.edu/osu_per/hr/empopport.php -- for full consideration, applications should be submitted by May 18, 2012.
Job Posting: Art Registrar, Oklahoma State University Museum of Art
Job Summary:
The OSU Museum of Art includes the Gardiner Art Gallery and the downtown Postal Plaza, which is in the process of being developed into a state-of-the-art venue for exhibitions, collections storage, research, and teaching. The permanent collection includes over 1500 objects including significant representation of African art, works on paper, 20th-century American modernism, and a broad teaching collection. The purpose of this position is to provide all aspects of registrarial duties including activities involving the permanent collections, loans and exhibitions, access to collections for scholarly research and in support of University classes, and day-to-day operations. The Registrar supports the curatorial staff, ensuring safe and proper handling, transportation, exhibition, storage, and documentation of permanent collections and loans. The Registrar also trains and supervises student interns.
Specific Responsibilities:
Permanent Collections (40%)
-Provide active registration duties for the permanent collections including maintaining and developing the museum’s collections information system (FileMaker). Enters and proofs new object records, including acquisitions, loans, temporary deposits and special exhibitions.
-Supervise collection photography, stores photographic collections, maintain rights and reproductions services.
-Work with appraisers for the purposes of permanent collection insurance.
-Conduct Collections Management activities in the areas of accessioning, deaccessioning, inventory control, storage upgrades, and maintenance of object files. Coordinate movement of permanent collection into new Postal Plaza storage facility.
-Process loan requests.
-Record and monitor object movements within and outside of the Museum.
-Make recommendations and arrangements for conservation, generate condition reports, provide proper storage for museum objects.
-Work closely with Museum staff to devise/revise housing and storage methods and provide recommendations and directions for proper object handling and display.
-Act as point person to provide access to the permanent collection and the collection database (including public web portal) as requested by OSU faculty, researchers, or students. Make in-house arrangements for viewing objects from the collection for OSU classes.
Administration (40%)
-Create facility reports; control, monitor, and document conditions in storage and gallery areas, including climate and pest control, in order to maintain current facility reports.
-Provide administrative support for a broad range of activities related to the Permanent Collection, including acquisitions, inventory and storage of objects, collections access and inquiries, intern training, maintenance of collections records, collections re-housing, and other duties and projects as assigned.
-Meet regularly with museum staff to evaluate progress and develop goals, plans, and solutions related to same.
-Work with University legal staff to ensure proper procedures throughout Collections Management.
Donations, Loans and Exhibitions (15%)
-Provide active registration duties for donation and loan objects in transit.
-Plan, arrange, and record domestic and international loan and exhibition shipping details to and from the museum. Work with lenders, fine art shippers, museum and other institution staff, and other involved parties, as applicable, to coordinate, gather and communicate details and information relating to crate design and construction, packing, freight forwarding, storage, and travel arrangements for couriers. Perform courier duties as necessary.
-Support in-house exhibitions team to plan packing/unpacking and installation/deinstallation, movement to storage and/or transfer to shipper; direct unpacking/packing, establish and prepare condition reports and condition report notebooks; prepare damage reports as necessary; obtain and incorporate digital images in reports.
Professional Development and Other (5%)
-Participate in training and workshops in order to maintain and develop skills
-Other duties as assigned
Required Qualifications:
Bachelor’s degree in Art History, Museum Studies, or a related field. Three years related museum or gallery experience in registration and/or collection management. Candidates must have a knowledge of standard museum policies and procedures, AAM standards, and museum cataloging systems. Experience with standards of proper care and storage of museum objects is necessary
Requires strong organizational and problem-solving skills and an attention to detail. Good communication skills in speech and written work are necessary.
Must be able to regularly lift and/or move a minimum of twenty five (25) pounds. Requires strong organizational and problem-solving skills and an attention to detail. Good communication skills in speech and written work are necessary.
Must be able to regularly lift and/or move a minimum of twenty five (25) pounds.
Skills include: -Safe handling of sensitive art objects, Good eye-hand coordination and dexterity in the care and handling of valuable and irreplaceable artifacts. -Matting and framing. -Artwork installation and creative exhibition arrangement -Organizational skills to successfully store information and physical objects. -Ability to meet deadlines and handle multiple tasks simultaneously -Ability to interact with all employees and volunteers at all levels of responsibility -Excellent written and oral communication skills; strong interpersonal skills. Must be able to communicate clearly with student workers, co-workers, donors, and the public. -Public relation skills to promote exhibitions and donations through news media. -Ability to maintain the highest ethics as they relate to all aspects of registrarial endeavor, and to understand and maintain the highest levels of confidentiality.
Knowledge of: -General understanding of conservation practices and art history. -Collection management and museum insurance practices -Exhibition loan and traveling exhibit practices -Damage prevention methods to protect against: light, humidity, mold, heat, etc... -Artwork preparation for exhibit hanging and display -Safe storage and shipping methods.
Proficiency with: -PC/Mac computer Platforms -Microsoft Word, PhotoShop, FileMaker Pro -internet and library research
Preferred Qualifications:
Master's degree in Museum Studies, Art History, Arts Administration, or related field, and 5 years of related museum or gallery experience
Skills in handling, moving, lifting and packing museum collections are preferred. Photography skills are preferred.
Application Materials:
Cover letter, resume and names and contact information for three references. For full consideration apply online at jobs.okstate.edu by May 18, 2012. If assistance is needed, contact OSU Human Resources at (405) 744-7401. Position is subject to availability of funding. OSU is an AA/EEO/E-Verify employer committed to diversity. OSU-Stillwater is a tobacco-free campus.
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Hi Mary,
Two companies that I know of have made these little gems. ELY and Artex-fas.
See related article HERE
There may be a link included.
Best,
Ashley
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:27:27 -0400
From: Mary Negro <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Looking for custom J-bar extension
Hello everyone,
Some art handlers I work with are trying to find a company to make a custom
J-bar extension. Thus far google has come up short, so I'm wondering if
anyone out there has a lead.
An art transport company we work with has a custom extension, but it was
made so long ago that nobody there remembers where it came from!
Any and all advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you all in advance!!
All the best,
Mary
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Hi Mary,
Two companies that I know of have made these little gems. ELY and Artex-fas.
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:27:27 -0400 From: Mary Negro <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Looking for custom J-bar extension
Hello everyone,
Some art handlers I work with are trying to find a company to make a custom J-bar extension. Thus far google has come up short, so I'm wondering if anyone out there has a lead.
An art transport company we work with has a custom extension, but it was made so long ago that nobody there remembers where it came from!
Any and all advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you all in advance!!
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========================================================================Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 04:49:00 -0700
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From: Dominique Bouchard <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: JOB: Summer Camp Coordinator at The Hunt Museum, Limerick, Ireland
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The Hunt Museum is looking for a Coordinator for our Children’s Summer Camps, taking place in Limerick, Ireland during July and August 2012.
The Hunt Museum is a small museum located in Limerick City centre on the banks of the river Shannon. The Hunt will run 4 week-long camps for approximately 20 children aged 6 – 12 yrs in each camp. A group of volunteers will work with the children on activities including arts and drama and possibly day trips.
2012 dates (inclusive): 9-13 July; 16-20 July; 30 July-3 August; 13-17 August
Work: During the Summer Camp the Coordinator will oversee and supervise the work with the children, ensure child safety and well-being and will ensure that the volunteers are prepared and able to manage the children effectively, the Coordinator will facilitate team-building with the volunteer group and liaise between the volunteers and Hunt Museum staff.
This position is fixed-term and paid.
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The deadline to receive Application Form is 5.00pm Monday 7 May 2012. Interviews will take place Monday 14 May 2012 at The Hunt Museum.
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The Hunt Museum is looking for a Coordinator for our Children’s
Summer Camps, taking place in Limerick, Ireland during July and
August 2012.
The Hunt Museum is a small museum located in Limerick City centre on
the banks of the river Shannon. The Hunt will run 4 week-long camps
for approximately 20 children aged 6 – 12 yrs in each camp. A group
of volunteers will work with the children on activities including
arts and drama and possibly day trips.
Work: During the Summer Camp the Coordinator will oversee
and supervise the work with the children, ensure child safety and
well-being and will ensure that the volunteers are prepared and able
to manage the children effectively, the Coordinator will facilitate
team-building with the volunteer group and liaise between the
volunteers and Hunt Museum staff.
This position is fixed-term and paid.
Application:
To apply for this position please request a Job Specification and
Application Form to return by email to: [log in to unmask] .
Please include the subject line: Summer Camp Coordinator
The deadline to receive Application Form is 5.00pm Monday 7 May
2012. Interviews will take place Monday 14 May 2012 at The Hunt
Museum.
Short-listed candidates will be contacted by Friday 11 May 2012.
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Dr Dominique Bouchard
Hunt Museum Curator of Education and Outreach
Address: Hunt Museum, Rutland Street, Limerick, Ireland
Tel: +353 (061) 312 833
Email: [log in to unmask]www.huntmuseum.com
The Hunt Museum’s Gift Shop showcases a wide range of local and international crafts and gifts. Every purchase made supports the museum’s valuable work.
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Subject: Exhibit Specialist,
Job #49955 - The Center for Creative Photography
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Randi Korn & Associates, Inc.
Alexandria Office
Randi Korn & Associates, Inc., a consulting firm specializing in evaluating museum programs and exhibitions, is seeking a Research Associate in its Alexandria, VA office. The Research Associate will be responsible for implementing a diverse range of evaluation projects and services; coordinating data collection logistics; developing evaluation tools; collecting and analyzing qualitative and quantitative data; and preparing reports and presentations.
The ideal candidate will have a strong desire to join a work environment that is client-centered and pursues excellence in evaluation. A master’s degree in applied anthropology, educational psychology, sociology, educational measurement, museum education, museum studies, or evaluation, or a related field is required. Qualified candidates will be familiar with current evaluation methods and practices and have some experience with qualitative and quantitative data analysis. The candidate must have excellent written and verbal communication skills and enjoy public speaking and giving presentations. Qualified candidates must also be able to juggle multiple projects and work both independently and as part of project teams. A passion for museums or other kinds of informal learning environments is preferred. Travel is also required and integral to the position.
RK&A’s strength is that we are a team of passionate professionals. In joining our team, you will work with people who love what they do and are driven to learn from each other, our clients, museum visitors, and our museum colleagues around the country. Our casual office environment is comfortable and adaptable. If you think this is the job for you, we welcome your application.
RK&A offers a competitive compensation and benefits package. For information on RK&A, please visit www.randikorn.com. Interested applicants should forward a resume with cover letter, salary requirements, and two independently written writing samples to: [log in to unmask], or to: RK&A, 118 E. Del Ray Ave., Alexandria, VA 22301. Applications will be accepted through May 15, 2012. Candidates whose application is received by April 25, 2012 may have the opportunity to be interviewed at the AAM 2012 Annual conference April 30 – May 1, 2012.
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Luther College in Decorah, IA is seeking applicants for a full time
Collections Manager/part-time Instructor in Museum Studies position.
Announcement and applications details can be found on our Human
Resources website (http://www.luther.edu/hr/staffvacancies/).
Applications should be submitted by May 21st for full consideration.
Questions can be directed to:
Dr. Colin Betts
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*Anthropology/Archaeology Laboratory and Collections Manager and
Part-Time Instructor in Museum Studies
*
Luther College seeks a qualified individual for the full-time (1.0 FTE)
position of Anthropology/Archaeology Laboratory and Collections Manager
and part-time Instructor in Museum Studies. Position is responsible for
training and supervising undergraduate work study students, managing
Luther's Archaeological, Ethnographic and Numismatic collections,
directing daily laboratory operations and budget, developing and
implementing an outreach program, and planning and installing exhibits
of materials from the Luther College collections. Manager will ensure
compliance with the Native American Graves Protection and Repatriation
Act (NAGPRA). The position will include teaching one course annually in
the Museum Studies program, including Introduction to Museum Studies and
Collections Management.
The successful candidate will have an MA/MS in Anthropology or Museum
Studies with a concentration in Anthropological Collections. Experience
in the management preservation of material culture, both archaeological
and ethnographic, and familiarity with NAGPRA, CRM, and Midwestern U.S.
archaeology preferred. Teaching experience highly desirable.
Additional information about the college is available at,
www.luther.edu. Luther College is an Affirmative Action/Equal
Opportunity Employer. Women and persons of diverse ethnic backgrounds
are especially encouraged to apply. Direct position inquiries to Colin
Betts, [log in to unmask]
Applicants are asked to submit a cover letter, resume, and the names and
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previous supervisor) to: Office of Human Resources, Luther College, 700
College Drive, Decorah, IA 52101 Review of files will begin May 21
and will continue until the position is filled.
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Instructor in Museum Studies position. Announcement and
applications details can be found on our Human Resources website (http://www.luther.edu/hr/staffvacancies/). Applications should be submitted by May
21st for full consideration.
Questions can be directed to:
Dr. Colin Betts [log in to unmask]
(563) 387-1284
Anthropology/Archaeology Laboratory and Collections Manager and
Part-Time Instructor in Museum Studies
Luther College seeks a qualified individual for the full-time (1.0
FTE) position of Anthropology/Archaeology Laboratory and Collections
Manager and part-time Instructor in Museum Studies. Position is
responsible for training and supervising undergraduate work study
students, managing Luther’s Archaeological, Ethnographic and
Numismatic collections, directing daily laboratory operations and
budget, developing and implementing an outreach program, and
planning and installing exhibits of materials from the Luther
College collections. Manager will ensure compliance with the Native
American Graves Protection and Repatriation Act (NAGPRA). The
position will include teaching one course annually in the Museum
Studies program, including Introduction to Museum Studies and
Collections Management.
The successful candidate will have an MA/MS in Anthropology or
Museum Studies with a concentration in Anthropological Collections.
Experience in the management preservation of material culture, both
archaeological and ethnographic, and familiarity with NAGPRA, CRM,
and Midwestern U.S. archaeology preferred. Teaching experience
highly desirable.
Additional information about the college is available at,
www.luther.edu. Luther College is an Affirmative Action/Equal
Opportunity Employer. Women and persons of diverse ethnic
backgrounds are especially encouraged to apply. Direct position
inquiries to Colin Betts, [log in to unmask].
Applicants are asked to submit a cover letter, resume, and the names
and contact information of three professional references (one must
be a previous supervisor) to: Office of Human Resources, Luther
College, 700 College Drive, Decorah, IA 52101 Review of files
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========================================================================Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:06:39 -0700
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Hi, Mary.
Check out www.elyinc.com and click on the products tab. Is this the one
you're looking for?
Best,
Ann
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Mary Negro <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> Some art handlers I work with are trying to find a company to make a
> custom J-bar extension. Thus far google has come up short, so I'm wondering
> if anyone out there has a lead.
>
> An art transport company we work with has a custom extension, but it was
> made so long ago that nobody there remembers where it came from!
>
> Any and all advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you all in advance!!
>
> All the best,
> Mary
>
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Hi, Mary.
Check out www.elyinc.com and click on the products tab. Is this the one you're looking for?
Best,
Ann
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Mary Negro <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hello everyone,
Some art handlers I work with are trying to find a company to make a custom J-bar extension. Thus far google has come up short, so I'm wondering if anyone out there has a lead.
An art transport company we work with has a custom extension, but it was made so long ago that nobody there remembers where it came from!
Any and all advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you all in advance!!
--f46d0407152b9393e704be21d345--
========================================================================Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:10:38 -0400
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From: Monta Lee Dakin <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Association membership software
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Hello Everyone:
Wondering if any of you are using Wild Apricot as your membership software?
Do you like it? Is it affordable? Would you recommend it?
Thanks for your help.
Monta Lee
Monta Lee Dakin
Executive Director
MPMA: A Ten-state museum network
Colorado, Kansas, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma,
South Dakota, Texas and Wyoming
Mark your calendar:
2012 MPMA Conference: October 1-5 Corpus Christi, Texas
2013 MPMA Conference: September 30-October 4 Lincoln, Nebraska
Mountain-Plains Museums Association
7110 West David Drive
Littleton, Colorado 80128-5404
303-979-9358 www.mpma.net
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Hello Everyone:
Wondering if any of you are using Wild Apricot as your membership
software?
Do you like it? Is it affordable? Would you recommend it?
Thanks for your help.
Monta Lee Monta Lee Dakin Executive Director MPMA: A Ten-state museum network Colorado, Kansas, Montana,
Nebraska, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Texas and
Wyoming
Mark your calendar: 2012 MPMA
Conference: October 1-5 Corpus Christi, Texas 2013 MPMA
Conference: September 30-October 4 Lincoln, Nebraska
Mountain-Plains Museums
Association 7110 West David Drive Littleton, Colorado
80128-5404 303-979-9358 www.mpma.net
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Hi Monica,
Check with Jason Jones, the WMA Association manager, as we have been using Wild Apricot for a couple of years for our membership..his email address: "Jason B. Jones" <[log in to unmask]>
Ted
Ted A. Greenberg
Museum Consultant/Collection Management/Registration Specialist
Western Museums Association Board Member/Wanda Chin Scholarship Auction Coordinator
535 S. Curson 3E
Los Angeles, CA 90036
323-934-9771
323-203-7023 (c)
[log in to unmask]
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On Apr 20, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Monta Lee Dakin wrote:
> Hello Everyone:
> Wondering if any of you are using Wild Apricot as your membership software?
>
> Do you like it? Is it affordable? Would you recommend it?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Monta Lee
> Monta Lee Dakin
> Executive Director
>
> MPMA: A Ten-state museum network
> Colorado, Kansas, Montana, Nebraska, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Texas and Wyoming
>
>
> Mark your calendar:
> 2012 MPMA Conference: October 1-5 Corpus Christi, Texas
> 2013 MPMA Conference: September 30-October 4 Lincoln, Nebraska
>
>
> Mountain-Plains Museums Association
> 7110 West David Drive
> Littleton, Colorado 80128-5404
> 303-979-9358 www.mpma.net
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Hi Monica,
Check with Jason Jones, the WMA Association manager, as we have been using Wild Apricot for a couple of years for our membership..his email address: "Jason B. Jones" <[log in to unmask]>
Ted
Ted A. Greenberg Museum Consultant/Collection Management/Registration Specialist Western Museums Association Board Member/Wanda Chin Scholarship Auction Coordinator 535 S. Curson 3E Los Angeles, CA 90036 323-934-9771 323-203-7023 (c) [log in to unmask] www.tagyourart.com
On Apr 20, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Monta Lee Dakin wrote:
Hello Everyone:
Wondering if any of you are using Wild Apricot as your membership
software?
Do you like it? Is it affordable? Would you recommend it?
Thanks for your help.
Monta Lee Monta Lee Dakin Executive Director MPMA: A Ten-state museum network Colorado, Kansas, Montana,
Nebraska, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Texas and
Wyoming
Mark your calendar: 2012 MPMA
Conference: October 1-5 Corpus Christi, Texas 2013 MPMA
Conference: September 30-October 4 Lincoln, Nebraska
Mountain-Plains Museums
Association 7110 West David Drive Littleton, Colorado
80128-5404 303-979-9358 www.mpma.net
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Sorry Monta Lee,
Addressed you with the wrong name....oops...
Ted
Ted A. Greenberg
Museum Consultant/Collection Management/Registration Specialist
535 S. Curson 3E
Los Angeles, CA 90036
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On Apr 20, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Monta Lee Dakin wrote:
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> Wondering if any of you are using Wild Apricot as your membership software?
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> Do you like it? Is it affordable? Would you recommend it?
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> Thanks for your help.
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> Monta Lee
> Monta Lee Dakin
> Executive Director
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> Mark your calendar:
> 2012 MPMA Conference: October 1-5 Corpus Christi, Texas
> 2013 MPMA Conference: September 30-October 4 Lincoln, Nebraska
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Sorry Monta Lee,
Addressed you with the wrong name....oops...
Ted
Ted A. Greenberg Museum Consultant/Collection Management/Registration Specialist 535 S. Curson 3E Los Angeles, CA 90036 323-934-9771 323-203-7023 (c) [log in to unmask] www.tagyourart.com
On Apr 20, 2012, at 1:10 PM, Monta Lee Dakin wrote:
Hello Everyone:
Wondering if any of you are using Wild Apricot as your membership
software?
Do you like it? Is it affordable? Would you recommend it?
Thanks for your help.
Monta Lee Monta Lee Dakin Executive Director MPMA: A Ten-state museum network Colorado, Kansas, Montana,
Nebraska, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Texas and
Wyoming
Mark your calendar: 2012 MPMA
Conference: October 1-5 Corpus Christi, Texas 2013 MPMA
Conference: September 30-October 4 Lincoln, Nebraska
Mountain-Plains Museums
Association 7110 West David Drive Littleton, Colorado
80128-5404 303-979-9358 www.mpma.net
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Subject: Financial Management in Cultural Organizations - a course at UVIC
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Apologies for cross-postings.
The Cultural Resource Management Program at the University of Victoria is pleased to announce an upcoming course for professionals working in museums, heritage centres, non-profit organizations or art institutions.
Financial Management in Cultural Organizations - HA 488Q
Build your confidence in planning a business case for your work
Dates: June 4-9, 2012 (on-campus course at the University of Victoria)
Instructor: Pauline Thompson
Gain financial management skills specific to the cultural sector that will contribute to the success of your organization.
While museums and other heritage and arts organizations exist to contribute to the cultural, artistic and creative quality of community life, they rely on thoughtful business planning and effective financial management to achieve their goals. This course is for anyone involved in planning and management within a cultural organization. This course will build your understanding of the complex economic and legal contexts in which your organization operates, and strengthens the knowledge, skills, an confidence that you bring to business and financial planning, management, and performance assessment.
You are encouraged to consider your own organization (or one that you are familiar with) as a case study as you explore:
. the nature and values of not-for-profit cultural organizations
. business planning as a framework for setting goals, priorities, and strategies
. financial management cycles, budgeting, and resource allocation - forecasting revenues and expenditures
. internal controls, evaluation, and audit legal and ethical issues
. using financial information for effective grant writing
Registration Deadline: May 7, 2012, late registrations accepted if space permits
Registration form and complete course information available at: http://www.uvcs.uvic.ca/Course/Financial-Management-in-Cultural-Organizations/HA488Q/
Fee: CAD $693 (Canadian funds, credit and non-credit participation options) including a CAD$75 materials fee and a CAD$100 tuition/registration deposit is required with each registration form. The tuition balance of CAD$518 is due on or before the first day of the course. UVSS Fees will also be assessed to credit students only. Please refer to our registration and withdrawal policies.
Instructor: Pauline Thompson is a Chartered Accountant, with degrees in economics and history, and a cultural management consultant with extensive financial and administrative management experience. Pauline focuses on the challenges facing museums, institutions, cultural organizations and communities with limited financial and human resources. Her recent work includes needs assessment, governance, operational reviews, cultural planning, policy development and mentoring for museums, theatre companies, historic sites, municipalities, government agencies, and professional associations. She serves on several boards including the executive of the British Columbia Honey Producers Association.
Comments from past participants:
"I am better grounded in best practices and ethics"
".this puts my work in context"
". a great strength of the course is Pauline - her experience and style - [she is] very knowledgeable, accessible, down-to-earth, and engaging!"
How to contact us
Cultural Resource Management Program
Division of Continuing Studies
University of Victoria
Phone 250-721-6119
Fax 250-721-8774
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Stay up to date; check our website regularly for more news:
www.continuingstudies.uvic.ca/cultural
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