Thanks, Marc,

I was under the impression that the recipient was forbidden to pay for the appraisal. I guess technically it is not illegal, just ill-advised? When I spoke to someone in the IRS office a few years ago, I was told that the entire burden of the appraiser was on the one wanting the tax deduction.

At least our organization officially has in our Policy & Procedures Manual that we do not get involved in appraisals, except to refer people to the organizations that an earlier person very handily posted the links to.  

Nothing can ever be simple when it comes to the IRS…

Lisa

 

Lisa Shockley, Curatorial Specialist, 3-D Collections

Union Station/Kansas City Museum

30 W. Pershing Road

Kansas City, MO 64108

 

816-460-2055

"Where there is Peace; there is Culture;

Where there is Culture; there is Peace."

Nicholas Roerich (1874-1947)


From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Marc A Williams
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 9:53 AM
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Beat me to the punch, Lisa! 

 

A few tidbits from IRS Publication 561 (4/2007), Determining the Value of Donated Property.  Appraisals are not required for deductions of $5,000 or less, so maybe this gets you off the hook, Debra? 

 

One clarification of what Lisa wrote.  Excluded appraisers include employees of both the donor and the donee.  However, someone hired by either (as opposed to employed) is not excluded.  Otherwise, the donor themselves would be prohibited from hiring an appraiser.  In fact, Pub 561 does not seem to mention who pays for the costs of the appraisal, just that the cost can not be added to the deduction taken by the donor.  The key issue for the museum is risk management.  I would strongly advise not only that the museum not pay for the appraisal, but not get involved in selecting the appraiser.  Referrals of associations of appraisers should be safe, but referrals of individuals should be avoided.  The museum does not want to be a party to any future legal action between the IRS and the donor, and must make all efforts to have an arm's length transaction.  The following is taken directly from Pub 561.

 

"Your deduction for contributions of paintings, antiques, and other objects of art, should be supported by a written appraisal from a qualified and reputable source, unless the deduction is $5,000 or less. Examples of information that should be included in appraisals of art objects—paintings in particular—are found later under Qualified Appraisal.

 

Generally, if the claimed deduction for an item or group of similar items of donated property is more than $5,000, you must get a qualified appraisal made by a qualified appraiser. You must also complete Form 8283, Section B, and attach it to your tax return. See Deductions of More Than $5,000, earlier.

A qualified appraisal is an appraisal document that:

·       Is made, signed, and dated by a qualified appraiser (defined later) in accordance with generally accepted appraisal standards,

·       Meets the relevant requirements of Regulations section 1.170A-13(c)(3) and Notice 2006-96, 2006-46 I.R.B. 902 (available at
www.irs.gov/irb/2006-46_IRB/ar13.html),

·       Relates to an appraisal made not earlier than 60 days before the date of contribution of the appraised property,

·       Does not involve a prohibited appraisal fee, and

·       Includes certain information (covered later).

Qualified appraiser.   A qualified appraiser is an individual who meets all the following requirements.

1.    The individual either:

a.     Has earned an appraisal designation from a recognized professional appraiser organization for demonstrated competency in valuing the type of property being appraised, or

b.    Has met certain minimum education and experience requirements. For real property, the appraiser must be licensed or certified for the type of property being appraised in the state in which the property is located. For property other than real property, the appraiser must have successfully completed college or professional-level coursework relevant to the property being valued, must have at least 2 years of experience in the trade or business of buying, selling, or valuing the type of property being valued, and must fully describe in the appraisal his or her qualifying education and experience.

2.    The individual regularly prepares appraisals for which he or she is paid.

3.    The individual demonstrates verifiable education and experience in valuing the type of property being appraised. To do this, the appraiser can make a declaration in the appraisal that, because of his or her background, experience, education, and membership in professional associations, he or she is qualified to make appraisals of the type of property being valued.

4.    The individual has not been prohibited from practicing before the IRS under section 330(c) of title 31 of the United States Code at any time during the 3-year period ending on the date of the appraisal.

5.    The individual is not an excluded individual.

  In addition, the appraiser must complete Form 8283, Section B, Part III. More than one appraiser may appraise the property, provided that each complies with the requirements, including signing the qualified appraisal and Form 8283, Section B, Part III.

Excluded individuals.   The following persons cannot be qualified appraisers with respect to particular property.

1.    The donor of the property, or the taxpayer who claims the deduction.

2.    The donee of the property.

3.    A party to the transaction in which the donor acquired the property being appraised, unless the property is donated within 2 months of the date of acquisition and its appraised value is not more than its acquisition price. This applies to the person who sold, exchanged, or gave the property to the donor, or any person who acted as an agent for the transferor or donor in the transaction.

4.    Any person employed by any of the above persons. For example, if the donor acquired a painting from an art dealer, neither the dealer nor persons employed by the dealer can be qualified appraisers for that painting.

5.    Any person related under section 267(b) of the Internal Revenue Code to any of the above persons or married to a person related under section 267(b) to any of the above persons.

6.    An appraiser who appraises regularly for a person in (1), (2), or (3), and who does not perform a majority of his or her appraisals made during his or her tax year for other persons.

  In addition, a person is not a qualified appraiser for a particular donation if the donor had knowledge of facts that would cause a reasonable person to expect the appraiser to falsely overstate the value of the donated property. For example, if the donor and the appraiser make an agreement concerning the amount at which the property will be valued, and the donor knows that amount is more than the FMV of the property, the appraiser is not a qualified appraiser for the donation."

 

Marc

 

American Conservation Consortium, Ltd.
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     Broad Brook, CT 06016
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-----Original Message-----
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http://www.irs.gov/publications/p561/ar02.html#d0e1535

Debra,

Here is a place to start, the IRS website. You might also call the IRS office closest to you, which may actually be here in Kansas City. In my “previous life,” I did appraisals for musical instruments and had many conversations with IRS, donors and museums/universities.

To sum up, the conflict is not just in the museum/gift receipient performing the appraisal, but anyone HIRED by the eventual recipient of the donation. This would include the museum paying for a professional appraiser. One other thing to note, is that the appraisal has to occur within two months of the donation. If the museum is in possession of the property, it CAN aid in the appraisal in making the items easily available for the appraiser to view, photograph and closely examine, as well as providing any information that you might have regarding the items. I.e., an artifact is on long-term loan to a museum and the lender wants to donate it. The appraiser can visit the institution and do the appraisal/examination with the assistance of museum staff.

The entity that is taking the tax deduction is responsible for all expenses incurred in the donation and that includes the appraisal.

I hope this is helpful, I know the IRS publications can be a bit windy to work through, but maybe this could actually work in your favor. Plunk a copy of  Publication 561 in front of them and tell them to start reading, I think it is around page 15 or 16.

Sincerely,

Lisa

 

Lisa Shockley, Curatorial Specialist, 3-D Collections

Union Station/Kansas City Museum

30 W. Pershing Road

Kansas City, MO 64108

 

816-460-2055

"Where there is Peace; there is Culture;

Where there is Culture; there is Peace."

Nicholas Roerich (1874-1947)


From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Debra Loguda-Summers
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 7:46 AM
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Subject: Re: Question regarding appraisals and Museum

 

Thanks so much for all of you who wrote.  I do need one other thing :)  where can I find this in writing (if you have been in the possible before you would understand why I need hard proof.)

 

Debra

>>> Gretchen Stelzel <[log in to unmask]> 5/29/2008 9:15 PM >>>
You are 100% in the right.  Staff members of a museum should never be directly involved in the appraisal of objects, meaning appraising the objects themselves or paying for the appraisals.  I'm not quite sure which musuem you work for but U.S. museums are actually prohibited by IRS regulation from appraising donated objects or in arranging appraisals of gifts for which donors receive income tax benefits.  This is not only to protect the museums but also to protect the donor from be investigated in cases of over-evaluations.  You should make it clear to your co-worders that the staff of your museums should stay objective in the case of appraisal, this means not paying for them.  The only role museum staff should play is to provide recommendations on appraisers.

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Date: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:02 pm
Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Question regarding appraisals and Museum
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> Hello,

> I have a question regarding Museums and appraisals.

> I know were are not to give appraisals on donations but, I am having
> trouble convincing some of the staff that we should not be paying for
> a donors appraisal and then letting the donor write the amount off on
> their taxes.  Am I wrong in thinking this???

> I am stuck between a rock and a hard place at the moment because a
> staff member told the donor we would have the items appraised and let
> them know.  It isn't the first time it has happened and I need hard
> facts to back up my thoughts that this is wrong.  HELP

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