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Best regards, Jon Austin, Executive Director Museum of Funeral Customs Death is only the beginning -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Scher Thomae, Dawn Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:25 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Talking to students about what we do Christian, I will volunteer. Dawn Scher Thomae, Milwaukee Public Museum, 414.278.6157, [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of SBC Museum Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 7:57 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Talking to students about what we do Hello, all-- This semester I am teaching a class on "Curating, Collecting and Connoisseurship." One of the assignments is an interview with a museum professional, in which the students devise a list of questions, conduct a phone interview with someone working in the field, and then summarize the major points of the conversation in a class presentation. Is anyone out there willing to be interviewed by a college student hoping to learn more about what it's really like to work in a museum? Thank you in advance for your willingness to help--some of you may remember that I posted a similar query a couple of years ago. As always, list members generously responded, and it was a great class exercise. All best, -- Christian Carr Director, Sweet Briar Museum Assistant Professor of Arts Management PO Box 144, Sweet Briar, VA 24595 Phone: 434.381.6246 Fax: 434.381.6132 (mailing address same as above) ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:47:19 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Nina Simon <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: AW: [MUSEUM-L] Sharing stories--inexpensive solutions? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-53--668259851 --Apple-Mail-53--668259851 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed I highly recommend two starting resources: 1. The book Visitor Voices in Museum Exhibitions, edited by Wendy Pollock and Kathy Mclean, and recently released by ASTC. While it doesn't offer complete analysis of best practices in such story booths, it does offer several case studies with related lessons learned. 2. The Voicethread technology. I find this free online software incredibly useful for sharing stories using voice in an intuitive, simple way. Check them out at http://voicethread.com, or check out a couple of ways that I have used it in a museum context, both for open discussion about an exhibit concept (http://www.museumtwo.com/ colab.html) and to explain a museum project (www.museumtwo.com/ techvirtual.html). Good luck! Nina Nina Simon Museum 2.0 www.museumtwo.com On Jan 17, 2008, at 7:31 AM, Schweibenz Werner wrote: > Hello, > > The paper of Elisa Giaccardi, Center for LifeLong Learning and > Design (L3D), might be of interest. She describes the MUVI project > in Lombardia, Italy, which collects stories of ordinary people and > cooperate with a radio station to make it known in the region. For > details please see giaccardi/giaccardi.html> Case #1: The MUVI project. > > Werner > > MuseumsInformationsSystem > Bibliotheksservice-Zentrum Baden-Württemberg > Universität Konstanz > D-78457 Konstanz > Tel. +49-7531/88-4279 > Fax +49-7531/88-3703 > >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: Museum discussion list >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Im Auftrag von Linda Norris >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. Januar 2008 23:48 >> An: [log in to unmask] >> Betreff: [MUSEUM-L] Sharing stories--inexpensive solutions? >> >> Hello-- >> >> I'm sure most of you are familiar with Story Corps and their efforts >> to collect community and family stories. I'm working with a museum >> that is interested in setting up, in a library setting, something >> similar: some sort of booth where people could share stories >> on either audio or video, ideally in a sort of supervised, >> but unstaffed >> directly way. Our budget is minimal at best and I was wondering if >> anyone had done something similar. Where was it placed? Did it >> work? What technology did you use? What would you do differently? >> >> Please feel free to reply off list. Thanks for your help. >> >> Linda Norris >> Riverhill >> [log in to unmask] >> www.riverhillpartners.com >> >> ========================================================= >> Important Subscriber Information: >> >> The Museum-L FAQ file is located at >> http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain >> detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a >> one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The >> body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). >> >> If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line >> e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of >> the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). >> >> >> > > ========================================================= > Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/ > museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the > listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail > message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message > should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > Nina Simon [log in to unmask] SL: Avi Marquez 408.795.6267 ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --Apple-Mail-53--668259851 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I highly recommend two starting resources:

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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --Apple-Mail-53--668259851-- ========================================================================Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:19:50 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Jenny Rosenzweig <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Student Volunteers Needed - UHA/MANY Conference Comments: To: Upstate History Alliance List <[log in to unmask]>, [log in to unmask] Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Volunteer 4 Hours…Receive Free Conference Registration A limited number of undergraduate and graduate student volunteer slots are available at the upcoming UHA/MANY Annual Conference on April 13-15, 2008 at the Albany Marriott on Wolf Road and at several off-site locations around the Albany area. Your free conference registration will allow you access to all of the great sessions and events that are part of this year’s conference. Of particular interest to student volunteers is our Resume Review Center, a new session at this year’s conference. And don’t forget the invaluable opportunity to meet some of the field’s leading professionals in New York State and the nation. Volunteer duties include: · Session/Workshop Assistant: Pass out materials for presenters and sessions and distribute, collect evaluations from participants, and provide a short description of the session/workshop you attended for posting on the UHA website · Registration Desk: Help welcome participants to the conference · Silent Auction: Help raise money for the Upstate History Alliance by assisting donors and bidders during the UHA Silent Auction · And there are many other opportunities available! For more information, contact Jenny Rosenzweig, Program Coordinator, at 800.896.1648 or by email at [log in to unmask] ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:44:28 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Susan Kline <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: chalkboards In-Reply-To: <00bc01c85c67$05150670$0e00a8c0@GINA> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_21196_18389535.1201020268599" ------=_Part_21196_18389535.1201020268599 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline For non museum use, the popular answer seems to be hairspray. But for anything archival, that would be a no-no because of the chemicals. Artists commonly use sprays to preserve charcoal drawings. Art supplies stores may carry a fixative that is "acid-free" or "archival safe". Here is an example, although there is no mention on this if it is archival safe or acid free. http://www.dickblick.com/zz217/02/ Susan Kline, M.A. Library Assistant Nebraska Methodist College ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------=_Part_21196_18389535.1201020268599 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline For non museum use, the popular answer seems to be hairspray. But for anything archival, that would be a no-no because of the chemicals.

Artists commonly use sprays to preserve charcoal drawings. Art supplies stores may carry a fixative that is "acid-free" or "archival safe".


Here is an example, although there is no mention on this if it is archival safe or acid free.
http://www.dickblick.com/zz217/02/

Susan Kline, M.A.
Library Assistant
Nebraska Methodist College



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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------=_Part_21196_18389535.1201020268599-- ========================================================================Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 00:30:24 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Alice Smith-Goeke <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Corset Question In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We , the Morris-butler House (Indianapolis, IN), were just talking about this the other day. Yes indeed a young girl of 13 would be in a corset. It would not be as severely shaped as the adult ones. Younger children were also put in corsets to learn proper posture too, but again they were shaped differently. I took a look around and I could not find my documentation tonight, if you really want it, I can get it for you. -Alice Smith-Goeke Museum Studies Grad student, IUPUI ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:43:38 -0500 From: SBC Museum <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Corset Question Hello all-- I am sure there is someone on the list who can offer assistance with this question: at approximately what age did girls in the late 19th century put on their corsets? I am working with my theater department on a short program featuring the character of a girl who would have been 13 in 1882. They want to know if she would have been wearing a corset under her costume--and I have no idea! Would it depend on whether she needed it or not, or were they traditionally worn when girls reached a certain age? Thank you in advance for any assistance! -- Christian Carr Director, Sweet Briar Museum Assistant Professor of Arts Management PO Box 144, Sweet Briar, VA 24595 Phone: 434.381.6246 Fax: 434.381.6132 (mailing address same as above) ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:12:41 EST Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Barbara Hass <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: chalkboards MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1201021961" -------------------------------1201021961 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit here is a web site which describes preservation of chalkboards in detail with illustrations _http://education.byu.edu/news/2005_features/maeser_chalkboard.html_ (http://education.byu.edu/news/2005_features/maeser_chalkboard.html) found by a web search using the terms preserving chalkboard Best wishes, Barbara Hass, retired librarian **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). -------------------------------1201021961 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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Fitzhugh St. Rochester NY  14608 (585) 546-7029 ext. 12 [log in to unmask] www.landmarksociety.org   Our mission is to discover, protect and revitalize the architectural and related cultural heritage of the Rochester region, and to educate and inform our community about that heritage.    1937-2007 - Landmark Society's 70th Anniversary! -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Chantelle Oliver Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 3:34 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] the Library of Congress on Flickr It is more than just an opportunity for user access. Crowdsourcing the onerous task of tagging/SEO-ing/researching digitized materials is, in my research and work, a way to _translate_ collections on line in ways that utilize the emerging social and semantic technologies to move beyond merely early 90s style emulation of meatspace. Not only does your collection get organized/worked on for free but socialized, publicized and spread with potential for as-yet undefined pedagocial richness. My two cents. Chantelle Oliver OISE/University of Toronto Walrus Magazine Technology Department www.chantelleoliver.com On 21-Jan-08, at 2:33 PM, Tim Atherton wrote: > Interesting to see the LoC is starting to put parts of it's photo > collection up online on Fickr for easy access. reasonable sized > files that you can print from (though not as big as many they have > online on their database - but which are harder to find) > > Same, on a smaller scale - with the Wisconsin Historical Society. > > Good way to make collections accessible. > > http://www.galleryhopper.org/?p=535 > > http://www.galleryhopper.org/?p=536 > > http://www.photoprogress.org/archives/257/library-of-congess-on- > flickr/ > > http://www.galleryhopper.org/?p=540 > > > > tim a > > > > Tim Atherton > Assistant Curator > Musée Héritage Museum, St. Albert > (780) 459-1594 > [log in to unmask] > > ========================================================= > Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/ > museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the > listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail > message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message > should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:37:11 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Chantelle Oliver <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: the Library of Congress on Flickr In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh...I certainly don't want to make anyone feel old. I am just so excited about the current wave of online activities because I see so much opportunity for museum/community pedagogy experimentation and I am energized to jump in! It certainly seems entirely new but what I like are the spaces for history to become more integrated into the present. -my .75 Canadian! > Chantelle Oliver > OISE/University of Toronto > Walrus Magazine Technology Department > www.chantelleoliver.com On 22-Jan-08, at 11:48 AM, Cindy Boyer wrote: > Crowdsourcing. > > Meatspace. > > I think I feel old. > > (Chantelle, that's more than 2 cents - that's more like 75 cents. > At current exchange rates, let's keep it in CAD!) > > Cindy Boyer > Director of Museums and Education > The Landmark Society of Western New York > 133 S. Fitzhugh St. > Rochester NY 14608 > (585) 546-7029 ext. 12 > [log in to unmask] > www.landmarksociety.org > > Our mission is to discover, protect and revitalize the > architectural and related cultural heritage of the Rochester > region, and to educate and inform our community about that heritage. > > 1937-2007 - Landmark Society's 70th Anniversary! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] > On Behalf Of Chantelle Oliver > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 3:34 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] the Library of Congress on Flickr > > It is more than just an opportunity for user access. Crowdsourcing > the onerous task of tagging/SEO-ing/researching digitized materials > is, in my research and work, a way to _translate_ collections on line > in ways that utilize the emerging social and semantic technologies to > move beyond merely early 90s style emulation of meatspace. Not only > does your collection get organized/worked on for free but socialized, > publicized and spread with potential for as-yet undefined pedagocial > richness. > > My two cents. > Chantelle Oliver > OISE/University of Toronto > Walrus Magazine Technology Department > www.chantelleoliver.com > > > On 21-Jan-08, at 2:33 PM, Tim Atherton wrote: > >> Interesting to see the LoC is starting to put parts of it's photo >> collection up online on Fickr for easy access. reasonable sized >> files that you can print from (though not as big as many they have >> online on their database - but which are harder to find) >> >> Same, on a smaller scale - with the Wisconsin Historical Society. >> >> Good way to make collections accessible. >> >> http://www.galleryhopper.org/?p=535 >> >> http://www.galleryhopper.org/?p=536 >> >> http://www.photoprogress.org/archives/257/library-of-congess-on- >> flickr/ >> >> http://www.galleryhopper.org/?p=540 >> >> >> >> tim a >> >> >> >> Tim Atherton >> Assistant Curator >> Musée Héritage Museum, St. Albert >> (780) 459-1594 >> [log in to unmask] >> >> ========================================================= >> Important Subscriber Information: >> >> The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/ >> museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the >> listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to >> [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read >> "help" (without the quotes). >> >> If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail >> message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message >> should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). >> > > ========================================================= > Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/ > museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the > listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail > message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message > should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > > ========================================================= > Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/ > museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the > listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail > message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message > should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:47:55 -0700 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: John Martinson <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Talking to students about what we do In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_8d1d3114-2a58-471b-b611-f3e4a2d225cc_" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_8d1d3114-2a58-471b-b611-f3e4a2d225cc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I will be happy to volunteer John Martinson 208-383-2287 [log in to unmask] Boise, ID > Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:25:01 -0600> From: [log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Talking to students about what we do> To: [log in to unmask]> > Christian, I will volunteer. Dawn Scher Thomae, Milwaukee Public Museum, 414.278.6157, [log in to unmask]> > -----Original Message-----> From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On> Behalf Of SBC Museum> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 7:57 AM> To: [log in to unmask]> Subject: Talking to students about what we do> > > Hello, all--> > This semester I am teaching a class on "Curating, Collecting and > Connoisseurship." One of the assignments is an interview with a > museum professional, in which the students devise a list of questions, > conduct a phone interview with someone working in the field, and then > summarize the major points of the conversation in a class presentation.> > Is anyone out there willing to be interviewed by a college student > hoping to learn more about what it's really like to work in a museum?> > Thank you in advance for your willingness to help--some of you may > remember that I posted a similar query a couple of years ago. As > always, list members generously responded, and it was a great class > exercise.> > All best,> -- > Christian Carr> Director, Sweet Briar Museum> Assistant Professor of Arts Management> PO Box 144, Sweet Briar, VA 24595> Phone: 434.381.6246 Fax: 434.381.6132> (mailing address same as above)> > =========================================================> Important Subscriber Information:> > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes).> > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --_8d1d3114-2a58-471b-b611-f3e4a2d225cc_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I will be happy to volunteer

John Martinson
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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --_8d1d3114-2a58-471b-b611-f3e4a2d225cc_-- ========================================================================Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:00:42 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: emily romick <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Painting in Archival Storage Area MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-957148913-1201024842=:71768" --0-957148913-1201024842=:71768 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi everyone, We are installing much needed new shelving units in our storage area (which contains mainly historic documents and photographs), something that is long overdue so we want to be sure we invest in the proper materials and procedures. The old metal shelves have been removed and we need to paint before we put the new shelves in. My question is, is there a certain type of paint that is recommended for use in museum and archive storage areas? Is regular hardware store paint somehow damaging? This space isn't as environmentally controlled as I would like it to be, so the paint will also have to be able to endure colder temperatures. Any advice on this, or brand or supplier recommendations, would be very much appreciated. Thank you in advance, Emily Romick Laurel Hill Cemetery and Friends of Laurel Hill ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --0-957148913-1201024842=:71768 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --0-957148913-1201024842=:71768-- ========================================================================Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:15:58 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Jenny Rosenzweig <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Student Volunteers Needed - UHA/MANY Conference Comments: To: Upstate History Alliance List <[log in to unmask]>, [log in to unmask] Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-10--616140595 --Apple-Mail-10--616140595 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hello everyone - Please note the newly corrected phone number on this announcement! We are very sorry for the confusion! *** Volunteer 4 Hours…Receive Free Conference Registration A limited number of undergraduate and graduate student volunteer slots are available at the upcoming UHA/MANY Annual Conference on April 13-15, 2008 at the Albany Marriott on Wolf Road and at several off-site locations around the Albany area. Your free conference registration will allow you access to all of the great sessions and events that are part of this year’s conference. Of particular interest to student volunteers is our Resume Review Center, a new session at this year’s conference. And don’t forget the invaluable opportunity to meet some of the field’s leading professionals in New York State and the nation. Volunteer duties include: · Session/Workshop Assistant: Pass out materials for presenters and sessions and distribute, collect evaluations from participants, and provide a short description of the session/workshop you attended for posting on the UHA website · Registration Desk: Help welcome participants to the conference · Silent Auction: Help raise money for the Upstate History Alliance by assisting donors and bidders during the UHA Silent Auction · And there are many other opportunities available! For more information, contact Jenny Rosenzweig, Program Coordinator, at 800.895.1648 or by email at [log in to unmask] ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --Apple-Mail-10--616140595 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252

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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --Apple-Mail-10--616140595-- ========================================================================Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 11:26:39 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Steph Gaub <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Assistant Manager - Orange County Regional History Center, Orlando, FL In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1859671933-1201029999=:25452" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit --0-1859671933-1201029999=:25452 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Please direct all inquiries to: Sara Van Arsdel Executive Director [log in to unmask] The Orange County Regional History Center, Orlando, FL, is seeking an Assistant Museum Manager. ASSISTANT MANAGER – MUSEUM Duties include overseeing and supervising staff and programs, developing and implementing policies, processes and procedures for the museum to ensure quality service and operations and coordinating integration of museum facility needs among the various components of the museum. Will also represent the museum at County, City and Board of Directors activities, facilitate/lead team projects, developing and monitor budget and be responsible for personnel actions and planning, including hiring, discipline, and training. Assists the Program Manager as needed. Requires a Master’s degree in Museum Studies, Anthropology, History, Business Administration or a closely related field and four years of increasing responsible management experience including personnel, budget and program development. Previous Museum experience is preferred. The Orange County Regional History Center is an AAM Accredited, Smithsonian Affliate museum located in downtown Orlando. Please check out www.thehistorycenter.org for more about what the History Center has to offer. Please direct all inquiries to: Sara Van Arsdel Executive Director [log in to unmask] --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --0-1859671933-1201029999=:25452 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_4D3833D516D5F34C96364AD52511A19C5BDDC7F721EXCHANGEuvicc_" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_000_4D3833D516D5F34C96364AD52511A19C5BDDC7F721EXCHANGEuvicc_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please share with colleagues: The Cultural Resource Management Program at the University of Victoria is pleased to offer the following 7-day immersion opportunity for professionals and volunteers working in museums, heritage sites, cultural centres and galleries and supporting arts or cultural groups. This course takes place in the fabulous city of Oaxaca, Mexico! Please note: The registration deadline is February 1, so sign up today! Approaches to Historic Site Stewardship: Perspectives from Monte Alban HA 489E (1.5 units); On-location in Oaxaca, Mexico Join us at Monte Alban, the spectacular World Heritage Site in Oaxaca, Mexico, to explore multifaceted and contemporary approaches to sustainable heritage stewardship in historic and archaeological sites. Monte Alban is recognized by UNESCO as one of fourteen sites worldwide that serve as models for site management planning. It offers an exceptional laboratory for assessing strategies that emphasize effective planning, services, and fidelity to authenticity within the site while responding to demands and uncertainties from an array of external interests. This innovative and intensive course combines workshops, site visits in and around Monte Alban and Oaxaca, and learning activities that strengthen your ability to: * analyze the values and the social, economic and environmental dynamics that create a context for site stewardship * assess both the opportunities and challenges that sites face in serving their communities * consider the logistical requirements involved with site stewardship, public programs, and visitor services * develop site management plans that stress sustainability and community engagement * implement management and staff development systems that are appropriate to your site, community and resources More information on Monte Alban can be found at http://www.sacredsites.com/americas/mexico/monte_alban.html. Dates: March 2-8, 2008; on-location in Oaxaca, Mexico Please register by: February 1 (late registrations accepted if space permits) To register in this course please visit https://www.uvcs.uvic.ca/forms/crm/online_reg.aspx. Fee: CDN$620, including a CDN$60 materials fee (Canadian funds, credit and non-credit participation options). A CDN$280 program fee will also be assessed to cover local arrangement costs. Note: These fees do not include travel to and from Oaxaca, local accommodation, or most meals. Instructors: Dr. Nelly Robles Garcia and Dr. Jack Corbett Across Mexico the terms "cultural resource management" and "heritage planning" are virtually synonymous with the name Nelly Robles Garcia. Over the past two decades her pioneering work and steadfast commitment to archaeological resources protection has moved the professional community and public policy from a static focus on technical skills and legal structures to an increasing emphasis on dynamic management, strategic planning, and a sophisticated understanding of the relationship between archaeological zones and the communities of stakeholders which surround them. Currently director of the archaeological zone at Monte Alban, part of the UNESCO World Heritage Site consisting of that monumental site with the historic center of the nearby city of Oaxaca, Nelly has spent almost her entire career in her native state. She holds an undergraduate degree in archaeology from the National School of Archaeology and History, a masters in restoration from the National School of Restoration, Conservation, and Museum Studies, both in Mexico City, and a doctorate in anthropology from the University of Georgia, where she studied on fellowships from the U.S.-Mexico Fulbright Commission and the American Association of University Women. Following an earlier period as director of the archaeological zone at Mitla in 1997 the National Institute of Anthropology and History named her to the post she holds today. In addition to her formal responsibilities managing an archaeological zone receiving more than 600,000 visitors annually Nelly has accumulated a formidable list of academic accomplishments and international commitments. Among these are: * Author/editorship of eight books on Oaxaca archaeology and cultural resources management * Two national prizes for work on heritage protection and restoration * Election to the governing board of the society for American Archaeology, the first Mexican ever to gain such recognition * Selection by the International Commission on Monuments and Sites of UNESCO for evaluation studies of possible World Heritage Sites in Nicaragua, Ecuador, and Bolivia, as well as service as a special evaluator of damage caused by Hurricane Mitch to sites in Central America. * Vice-president for Latin America of the International Committee of Archaeological Heritage Management. * Mexican delegate to International Council for Conservation and Restoration of Cultural Heritage * Member of the Council of Archaeology, the governing board of all archaeological research in Mexico. * Advisor and consultant to the U.S. National Parks Service and U.S. Forest Service * International Working Group on cultural resources education, President´s Committee on the Arts and Humanities (United States) Dr. Jack Corbett, of Portland State University (USA) and the Instituto Tecnologico de Oaxaca (Mexico), has written extensively on community-based cultural and natural resources management under conditions of competition and conflict. Draft Course Outline * Sunday: Introduction to Oaxaca and the Course * Monday: Planning, Management, and Minefields * Tuesday: Multiple Faces of a World Heritage Site * Wednesday: Lions, Tigers, and Heritage Management * Thursday: The World Beyond ZAMA * Friday: Making Sense of, and From, Monte Alban * Saturday: Last Call LOCAL ARRANGEMENTS This course also provides an opportunity to experience the wonderful architecture and culture of Oaxaca and to enjoy its lovely sunny climate in the company of heritage professionals from across North America and beyond. Participants will be provided with information on accommodation options that range from modest ($70 per day) to mid-range ($85-100CND per night), and congenial meals and evening gatherings will be coordinated. TRAVEL Participants are expected to make their own travel arrangement to and from Oaxaca, arriving no later than the morning of Sunday, March 2 and departing no earlier than 2 pm on Saturday, March 8. Normal routing for travel to Oaxaca is through Mexico City. Mexicana Airlines offers regular local flights to Oaxaca (approximately 1 hour in duration), and bus transportation can be arranged (approximately 6 hours in transit). Participants are responsible for arranging for personal travel and health insurance. Enrollment Options allow you to choose to take courses either to enhance professional development or to build academic credit. Individual course descriptions and registration forms are available by contacting us at [log in to unmask] or by visiting our web site at: http://www.uvcs.uvic.ca/crmp. For more information, please contact: Anissa Paulsen, Program Coordinator Cultural Resource Management Program Continuing Studies, University of Victoria PO Box 3030 STN CSC Victoria BC Canada V8W 3N6 Tel: 250 721-8462 Fax: 250 721-8774 Email: [log in to unmask] Visit our Web site! http://www.uvcs.uvic.ca/crmp To receive monthly email updates, contact [log in to unmask] ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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If yes, do you carry a separate insurance rider to protect your organization against the threat of being falsely accused of abuse? We have had this rider for several summers, and it is becoming prohibitively expensive. It may actually sink our summer program. What is your experience with this sort of thing? Have any of you actually faced a situation from which this insurance is designed to protect you? And apologies if necessary - I feel as if I've already asked this question some time ago, but I don't recall getting responses. I guess that's déjà vu all over again. It seems the responses I got were about how to keep the kids safe. We have an excellent policy in place. This is not about keeping the kids safe, its about protecting your institution from being destroyed by a lawsuit. Cindy Boyer Director of Museums and Education The Landmark Society of Western New York 133 S. Fitzhugh St. Rochester NY  14608 (585) 546-7029 ext. 12 [log in to unmask] www.landmarksociety.org   Our mission is to discover, protect and revitalize the architectural and related cultural heritage of the Rochester region, and to educate and inform our community about that heritage.    1937-2007 - Landmark Society's 70th Anniversary! ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:30:45 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Andrew Talkov <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Summer day camps and insurance In-Reply-To: A<[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C85D3E.0BFBEADE" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C85D3E.0BFBEADE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cindy, We had a very successful day camp program when I was at Pamplin Historical Park & The National Museum of the Civil War Soldier in Petersburg, Virginia. Our leadership team was very conscious about the possibility of being sued and was, therefore, very careful about visitor safety. I don't believe we had an additional insurance rider for our day camp program or our overnight camp programs (although I know our insurance company was aware we did these programs). Perhaps we were opening ourselves up to a lawsuit, but we had faith in our policy that when we were acting in loco parentis, a staff member must be accompanied by another staff member when in the presence of a child. The day camp had about 20-30 campers per session and we dedicated four staff members to the program. I'm also sure that we had parents sign a hold-harmless agreement as part of their registration. Although I've been told that those really aren't worth the paper they are written on if you go to court. We always worked on the assumption that if we could prove that we were not negligent, we would be able to prove our case in court. Maybe we were naïve. Fortunately, we did the program for at least 8 years and didn't have any problems. Best of luck, Andrew H. Talkov Exhibit Coordinator for Virginia's Civil War Virginia Historical Society 428 N. Boulevard P.O. Box 7311 Richmond, Virginia 23221-0311 Phone: 804-340-2276 Fax: 804-355-2399 Email: [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Cindy Boyer Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 4:06 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Summer day camps and insurance Do any of you operate a day camp, or other program where the children participating are under the direct supervision of your staff or volunteers? In other words, they are not in attendance with parents or chaperones. If yes, do you carry a separate insurance rider to protect your organization against the threat of being falsely accused of abuse? We have had this rider for several summers, and it is becoming prohibitively expensive. It may actually sink our summer program. What is your experience with this sort of thing? Have any of you actually faced a situation from which this insurance is designed to protect you? And apologies if necessary - I feel as if I've already asked this question some time ago, but I don't recall getting responses. I guess that's déjà vu all over again. It seems the responses I got were about how to keep the kids safe. We have an excellent policy in place. This is not about keeping the kids safe, its about protecting your institution from being destroyed by a lawsuit. Cindy Boyer Director of Museums and Education The Landmark Society of Western New York 133 S. Fitzhugh St. Rochester NY 14608 (585) 546-7029 ext. 12 [log in to unmask] www.landmarksociety.org Our mission is to discover, protect and revitalize the architectural and related cultural heritage of the Rochester region, and to educate and inform our community about that heritage. 1937-2007 - Landmark Society's 70th Anniversary! ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------_=_NextPart_001_01C85D3E.0BFBEADE-- ========================================================================Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:43:54 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Dana Allen-Greil <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Take the Museum Building Programs Survey Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" All museum professionals who have been or will be involved in a building project (e.g., addition, renovation, new building) between 2000 and 2015 are encouraged to participate in this survey. In addition to basic information, the survey includes questions about planning, developing the design, finances, fundraising, communications, closings/openings, staffing and oversight, and evaluation. The Museum Building Programs survey is being used to gather data for the Mid-Atlantic Association of Museum's annual "Building Museums" symposium. Please pass this message along to your colleagues involved in museum construction projects. DOWNLOAD THE QUESTIONS IN ADVANCE: This survey will take approximately 30 minutes to complete. We recommend that you download the complete list of questions before completing the survey. Once you begin the survey, you cannot save your answers and return at a later date. Download questions here: http://www.midatlanticmuseums.org/BM08Survey.pdf TAKE THE SURVEY NOW: http://s-0emi4-27801.sgizmo.com/?c-4YES2= DEADLINE: Please submit your survey answers before February 15, 2008. USE OF DATA: In conjunction with the George Washington University Museum Studies program the data will be used in educational programs. In addition, a future publication on the topic of building museums will also draw on the lessons compiled from this survey. A summary report will be developed and results shared with all museums completing the questionnaire. QUESTIONS? Please contact Martha Morris, Associate Professor of Museum Studies, The George Washington University at [log in to unmask] or Dana Allen-Greil, Mid-Atlantic Association of Museums Building Museums Program Committee, at [log in to unmask] ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:32:11 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Lauren Cohen <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Summer day camps and insurance In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17045_22722883.1201037531847" ------=_Part_17045_22722883.1201037531847 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I'd love to know too. If you could reply to list, that would be great. Thanks! On Jan 22, 2008 4:06 PM, Cindy Boyer <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Do any of you operate a day camp, or other program where the children > participating are under the direct supervision of your staff or volunteers? > In other words, they are not in attendance with parents or chaperones. > > If yes, do you carry a separate insurance rider to protect your > organization against the threat of being falsely accused of abuse? > > We have had this rider for several summers, and it is becoming > prohibitively expensive. It may actually sink our summer program. > > What is your experience with this sort of thing? Have any of you actually > faced a situation from which this insurance is designed to protect you? > > And apologies if necessary - I feel as if I've already asked this > question some time ago, but I don't recall getting responses. I guess that's > déjà vu all over again. It seems the responses I got were about how to keep > the kids safe. We have an excellent policy in place. This is not about > keeping the kids safe, its about protecting your institution from being > destroyed by a lawsuit. > > Cindy Boyer > Director of Museums and Education > The Landmark Society of Western New York > 133 S. Fitzhugh St. > Rochester NY 14608 > (585) 546-7029 ext. 12 > [log in to unmask] > www.landmarksociety.org > > Our mission is to discover, protect and revitalize the architectural and > related cultural heritage of the Rochester region, and to educate and inform > our community about that heritage. > > 1937-2007 - Landmark Society's 70th Anniversary! > > ========================================================= > Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message > to [log in to unmask] . 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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------=_Part_17045_22722883.1201037531847-- ========================================================================Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:12:46 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Alicia Herman <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Summer day camps and insurance Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't know about insurance policies but as a social worker who is familiar with reporting issues, there are staff policies that can help protect staff from being falsely accused, the biggest being trying to have 2 adults with children at all times!!! Therefor there is another witness for any occasion. There are other policies that can be helpful and local public schools and mental health organizations in your area are likely to have adopted them. Perhaps they can help you out as well. -----Original Message----- >From: Cindy Boyer <[log in to unmask]> >Sent: Jan 22, 2008 4:06 PM >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Summer day camps and insurance > >Do any of you operate a day camp, or other program where the children participating are under the direct supervision of your staff or volunteers? In other words, they are not in attendance with parents or chaperones. > >If yes, do you carry a separate insurance rider to protect your organization against the threat of being falsely accused of abuse? > >We have had this rider for several summers, and it is becoming prohibitively expensive. It may actually sink our summer program. > >What is your experience with this sort of thing? Have any of you actually faced a situation from which this insurance is designed to protect you? > >And apologies if necessary - I feel as if I've already asked this question some time ago, but I don't recall getting responses. I guess that's déjà vu all over again. It seems the responses I got were about how to keep the kids safe. We have an excellent policy in place. This is not about keeping the kids safe, its about protecting your institution from being destroyed by a lawsuit. > >Cindy Boyer >Director of Museums and Education >The Landmark Society of Western New York >133 S. Fitzhugh St. >Rochester NY  14608 >(585) 546-7029 ext. 12 >[log in to unmask] >www.landmarksociety.org >  >Our mission is to discover, protect and revitalize the architectural and related cultural heritage of the Rochester region, and to educate and inform our community about that heritage.  >  >1937-2007 - Landmark Society's 70th Anniversary! > >========================================================= >Important Subscriber Information: > >The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). > >If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:23:32 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Cindy Boyer <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Summer day camps and insurance MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable -----Original Message----- From: Cindy Boyer Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 5:17 PM To: 'Robin Gabriel' Subject: RE: [MUSEUM-L] Summer day camps and insurance It's good to know about the policies that others follow (the "two-deep" leadership example) so feel free to share those. We follow those policies as well(Two-deep, criminal background checks, permission slips from parents. Etc.) We even have a policy instructing our volunteer teenagers on appropriate behaviors around the campers, including not talking about inappropriate topics (no gossiping about your dating life around the campers!) Again, our policies are in place to protect the child. My concern is the insurance costs vs. the actual or perceived risk of false accusations. Last year our insurance cost us approximately $20 per camper. That is a BIG chunk out of a relatively low cost program. Everyone was very nervous about this when the stories about the Catholic priests were more in the forefront of the news. Cindy Boyer Director of Museums and Education The Landmark Society of Western New York 133 S. Fitzhugh St. Rochester NY  14608 (585) 546-7029 ext. 12 [log in to unmask] www.landmarksociety.org   Our mission is to discover, protect and revitalize the architectural and related cultural heritage of the Rochester region, and to educate and inform our community about that heritage.    1937-2007 - Landmark Society's 70th Anniversary! -----Original Message----- From: Robin Gabriel [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 5:03 PM To: Cindy Boyer Subject: RE: [MUSEUM-L] Summer day camps and insurance Cindy - we offer a summer camp program for rising 4 - 7th graders every summer. The campers and our paid staff all fall under the Foundation's regular insurance policy. We do not carry an insurance rider for this program. We do have the parents sign permission forms. We also have a policy where adults are not allowed to be alone with an individual child (we follow the Boy Scouts rules on "two-deep leadership" when it comes to programming). We have a ratio of two adults to 16 students. There are times when one adult will take a group of kids off to do a certain project, but as I said before, at no time is one adult allowed to be alone with one student. I should also mention that we do a complete criminal search on all new employees. Let me know if you have any other questions. Robin Gabriel - - - - - - - - - - - - - Robin H. Gabriel Hunter J. Smith Director of Education Monticello/Thomas Jefferson Foundation P.O. Box 316 Charlottesville, Virginia 22902 PH: (434) 984-9854 FAX: (434) 295-1312 [log in to unmask] www.monticello.org -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Cindy Boyer Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 4:06 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Summer day camps and insurance Do any of you operate a day camp, or other program where the children participating are under the direct supervision of your staff or volunteers? In other words, they are not in attendance with parents or chaperones. If yes, do you carry a separate insurance rider to protect your organization against the threat of being falsely accused of abuse? We have had this rider for several summers, and it is becoming prohibitively expensive. It may actually sink our summer program. What is your experience with this sort of thing? Have any of you actually faced a situation from which this insurance is designed to protect you? And apologies if necessary - I feel as if I've already asked this question some time ago, but I don't recall getting responses. I guess that's déjà vu all over again. It seems the responses I got were about how to keep the kids safe. We have an excellent policy in place. This is not about keeping the kids safe, its about protecting your institution from being destroyed by a lawsuit. Cindy Boyer Director of Museums and Education The Landmark Society of Western New York 133 S. Fitzhugh St. Rochester NY  14608 (585) 546-7029 ext. 12 [log in to unmask] www.landmarksociety.org   Our mission is to discover, protect and revitalize the architectural and related cultural heritage of the Rochester region, and to educate and inform our community about that heritage.    1937-2007 - Landmark Society's 70th Anniversary! ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE January 22, 2008 IMLS Press Contacts 202-653-4632 Jeannine Mjoseth, [log in to unmask] Mamie Bittner, [log in to unmask] Museums, Libraries, and Archives Urged to Apply for Free IMLS Connecting to Collections Bookshelf Deadline extended to April 30, 2008 WASHINGTON, DC--The Institute of Museum and Library Services (IMLS), in cooperation with the American Association for State and Local History (AASLH), has extended the deadline for applying for the IMLS Connecting to Collections Bookshelf, a core set of books, online resources, and a user's guide that are essential for the care of collections. The bookshelf has received support from the Getty Foundation, the Henry Luce Foundation, and the Samuel H. Kress Foundation. A simple electronic application for the free IMLS Bookshelf is available at www.aaslh.org/Bookshelf. The IMLS Bookshelf focuses on collections typically found in art or history museums and in libraries' special collections, with an added selection of texts for zoos, aquaria, public gardens, and nature centers. It addresses such topics as the philosophy and ethics of collecting, collections management and planning, emergency preparedness, and culturally specific conservation issues. Recipients of the Bookshelf will also receive a guide with answers to common questions about collections care that can be answered by the Bookshelf. A guide to online resources on collections care has also been prepared by Heritage Preservation (HP), a national non-profit organization working to preserve America's collective heritage. Both documents are available online on the IMLS Web Site at www.imls.gov/collections. Two panels of experts, convened by HP, made recommendations to IMLS on the contents of the bookshelf. Among the publications selected were The National Trust Manual of Housekeeping (published by the British National Trust in 2005), the Field Guide to Emergency Response (published by Heritage Preservation in 2006), and Essentials of Conservation Biology (published by Primack in 2006). The IMLS Bookshelf will be awarded free in this last application period March 1 - April 30, 2008, with recipients announced in July 2008. Instructions, qualifications, and the content of the IMLS Bookshelf, along with the online application, can be found at www.aaslh.org/Bookshelf. Priority will be given to smaller institutions, but large museums and libraries with special collections are also eligible to apply. Federally operated institutions, for-profit institutions, and libraries that do not hold special collections are not eligible to receive the Bookshelf. For more information on the IMLS Bookshelf, email Terry Jackson at [log in to unmask], or call 615-320-3203. The Bookshelf is part of Connecting to Collections: A Call to Action, a multi-year initiative to help improve the care of our nation's collections. IMLS began the initiative in response to A Public Trust at Risk: The Heritage Health Index Report on the State of America's Collections, a 2005 Heritage Preservation study supported by IMLS, which documented the dire state of the nation's collections. See www.imls.gov/collections for more information. The Institute of Museum and Library Services is the primary source of federal support for the nation's 122,000 libraries and 17,500 museums. The Institute's mission is to create strong libraries and museums that connect people to information and ideas. The Institute works at the national level and in coordination with state and local organizations to sustain heritage, culture, and knowledge; enhance learning and innovation; and support professional development. To learn more about the Institute, please visit www.imls.gov. The American Association for State and Local History is a non-profit membership organization comprising individuals, agencies, and organizations acting in the public trust, engaged in the practice of history, and representing a variety of disciplines and professions. It provides leadership and support for its members who preserve and interpret state and local history in order to make the past more meaningful to all Americans. To learn more, visit www.aaslh.org. The Getty Foundation provides support to institutions and individuals throughout the world, funding a diverse range of projects that promote the understanding and conservation of the visual arts. The Foundation is part of the J. Paul Getty Trust which also includes the J. Paul Getty Museum, the Getty Research Institute, and the Getty Conservation Institute. To learn more, visit www.getty.edu/foundation. The Henry Luce Foundation was established in 1936 by the late Henry R. Luce, co-founder and editor-in-chief of Time Inc. With assets of approximately $750 million, the Luce Foundation supports American art, higher education, Asian affairs, theology, and women in science and engineering. To learn more, visit www.hluce.org. The Samuel H. Kress Foundation was created in 1929 to promote the collection and distribution of works of European art to American museums, the preservation of significant monuments of European art and architecture, and the nurturing of professional expertise in art history and art conservation. To learn more, visit www.kressfoundation.org. ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). 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An HTML version of this release can be read on the agency's Web site at http://www.imls.gov/news/2008/012208.shtm FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE January 22, 2008 IMLS Press Contacts 202-653-4632 Jeannine Mjoseth, [log in to unmask] Mamie Bittner, [log in to unmask] Participants Sought for March Hearings on Museum Funding WASHINGTON, DC--Avid museum goers, community leaders, museum professionals, and individuals who have encountered barriers to museum going are encouraged to make their views known at one of three public hearings on the use of public funds for museums, announced Anne-Imelda Radice, PhD, Director of the Institute for Museum and Library Services (IMLS). The Institute is the primary source of federal funding for the nation's museums and libraries. "In order to fully understand the impact of public funds for museums, we must hear from interested members of the public on the use of taxpayers' dollars for these cultural institutions," Radice said. IMLS is particularly interested in testimony from school coordinators, older people, special needs groups, and directors of cultural tours. IMLS would also like to hear from leaders who can speak about the use of public funds for cultural purposes based on their understanding of county, state, and federal budgets and their experiences with any and all kinds of museums, including art, history, natural history, children's museums, as well as planetariums, science centers, gardens, and zoos. Hearings will be held at three locations in March: March 10, 2008 The Ohio Historical Society, Columbus, OH March 12, 2008 The Nelson-Atkins Museum of Art, Kansas City, MO March 14, 2008 The Oakland Museum of California, Oakland, CA Radice and members of the National Museum and Library Services Board will listen to both formal and informal testimony. With the testifiers' permission, testimony will be recorded and used as part of a report on the public funding of museums that will be released in the summer of 2008. The public hearings are the last in a series of IMLS's information-gathering efforts designed to determine the sources and uses of public funds for museums. Also part of the effort is a rigorous examination by The Urban Institute, which, through a cooperative agreement with IMLS, has gathered information about public funding for museums through a national survey as well as through individual interviews with museum professionals and museum funders in selected states, in order to compare the impact of different funding mechanisms. All the information gathered, including the perspectives from the public, will be part of the IMLS report. To participate in the public hearings, please contact Mamie Bittner at [log in to unmask] or Celeste Colgan at [log in to unmask] For more information on the IMLS Museum Study, see http://www.imls.gov/news/2008/012208_bkg.shtm. About the Institute of Museum and Library Services The Institute of Museum and Library Services is the primary source of federal support for the nation's 122,000 libraries and 17,500 museums. The Institute's mission is to create strong libraries and museums that connect people to information and ideas. The Institute works at the national level and in coordination with state and local organizations to sustain heritage, culture, and knowledge; enhance learning and innovation; and support professional development. To learn more about the Institute, please visit http://www.imls.gov. ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:27:11 -0700 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: m witten <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Museum Library Question In-Reply-To: <007c01c85c3f$5deff0c0$0300a8c0@director> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_38fb01fd-7c1c-48f4-9a52-d036f598c7be_" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_38fb01fd-7c1c-48f4-9a52-d036f598c7be_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Over a decade ago the Taos Historic Museums and the Harwood Museum of Art wrote a joint IMLS proposal to fund the Southwest Research Center of Northern New Mexico. The SWRC combined the library and archival materials of the THM, HAR and the Millicent Rogers Museum into a non-circulating library. The SWRC is administered informally by the Museum Association of Taos, which includes the THM, HAR MRM, and the Taos Art Museum. We jointly fund the SWRC through in-kind donations (free rent, utilities, staff, etc.) and through the sale of our "combo" ticket. The combo ticket allows admission to all 5 of our museums (THM has 2 historic house museums) and is sold at all of our museums and at the Taos Visitor Center. (MAT also does joint advertising and runs 2 programs for children.) By combining our (meager!) resources we have been able to operate a library that is used by students and researchers from NM and across the US. At some future date (after a suitable building is completed), the SWRC is likely to become a special collection within the UNM-Taos library. I hope this helps. Good luck Morris Witten Executive DirectorTaos Historic Museums Every calculation based on experience elsewhere fails in New Mexico. ~Lew Wallace Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:07:40 -0500 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Museum Library Question To: [log in to unmask] Our museum is looking to update what we affectionately call our "library" into a facility that the public can use for research. Currently, it's just a storehouse of things we either don't have room for in out public collection or know what to do with. What I'm hoping you all can help us with is if anyone else out their has an "in-house" library or research space (genealogy, newspapers, etc) that would be willing to share their policy's for use or give use some advice on how to start this project. 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Our museum is looking to update what we affectionately call our "library" into a facility that the public can use for research. Currently, it's just a storehouse of things we either don't have room for in out public collection or know what to do with. What I'm hoping you all can help us with is if anyone else out their has an "in-house" library or research space (genealogy, newspapers, etc) that would be willing to share their policy's for use or give use some advice on how to start this project.

 

Diane

 

Diane Hutsell
Executive Director
McMinn County Living Heritage Museum
PO Box 889
Athens, TN 37303
423-745-0329
www.livingheritagemuseum.com
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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --_38fb01fd-7c1c-48f4-9a52-d036f598c7be_-- ========================================================================Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:09:01 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: james schulte <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Talking to students about what we do In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E2_01C85D19.7CE3D250" This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E2_01C85D19.7CE3D250 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Christian, I would also be glad to participate. I will also call the student from my home at their convenience, after initial correspondence so they don't have a large phone bill. Jim Schulte, President Preservation Salem County, Inc. 856-678-27-8 856-217-0420 From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kristen Olson Eckman Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:36 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Talking to students about what we do Christian, I would be happy to participate. Kristen Olson Eckman curatorial assistant of Asian collections American Museum of Natural History 212.769.5431 [log in to unmask] _____ > Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:25:01 -0600 > From: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Talking to students about what we do > To: [log in to unmask] > > Christian, I will volunteer. Dawn Scher Thomae, Milwaukee Public Museum, 414.278.6157, [log in to unmask] > > -----Original Message----- > From: Museum discussion list [mailto========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------=_NextPart_000_00E2_01C85D19.7CE3D250 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------=_NextPart_000_00E2_01C85D19.7CE3D250-- ========================================================================Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 18:38:26 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Garet Livermore <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Talking to students about what we do In-Reply-To: <00e101c85d43$65b9da50$312d8ef0$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_20745_3079221.1201045106937" ------=_Part_20745_3079221.1201045106937 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'd be happy to volunteer as well... -- Garet Livermore Vice President for Education New York State Historical Association & The Farmers' Museum PO Box 800 Cooperstown, NY 13326 607-547-1490 - voice 607-547-1499 - fax ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------=_Part_20745_3079221.1201045106937 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

I'd be happy to volunteer as well...
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The movie “Mad Monster Party” is licensed by Criterion, for $225 but after explaining the circumstances of our event he offered it for $150. We didn’t sell tickets for our event and we didn’t pre-advertise the movie title. I think this might have mattered, but maybe not. In some cases of ticket-selling the agreement would have been something like “you must pay X unless your ticket sales are Y in which case…” Most of the public wouldn’t believe we had to pay so much to show a movie one time, but that is the case. Maybe somebody would be willing to sponsor you. -Anne Nagrant Troy Museum & Historic Village (Michigan) From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brenda L. Abney Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 1:02 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Movie licensing problem / Big Read plug If you are partnered with another organization with a blanket license, you can show the film under their auspices. 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Not necessarily…

 

We are a City Museum that is connected with the Public Library -- I don’t mean we are located in the same place, but that the Museum Manager reports to the Library Director. The Library has a blanket movie license, but this applies only to films shown in the library building—I tried.

 

I know this because last Halloween during a free event we showed “Abbott and Costello Meets Frankenstein” in one of our buildings (it was shown more like “wallpaper”, meaning people came in and out throughout, no tickets).

 

Every film title is licensed by a different company. This one, covered by Swank, cost $250 plus $21 in shipping (they send you their own copy, DVD or VHS, of it. You may watch it once to assure there are no defects, and then once during your event. Then you must UPS it back to them.) The movie “Mad Monster Party” is licensed by Criterion, for $225 but after explaining the circumstances of our event he offered it for $150.

 

We didn’t sell tickets for our event and we didn’t pre-advertise the movie title. I think this might have mattered, but maybe not. In some cases of ticket-selling the agreement would have been something like “you must pay X unless your ticket sales are Y in which case…”

 

Most of the public wouldn’t believe we had to pay so much to show a movie one time, but that is the case.

 

Maybe somebody would be willing to sponsor you.

 

-Anne Nagrant

Troy Museum & Historic Village (Michigan)

 

 

 

From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brenda L. Abney
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2008 1:02 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Movie licensing problem / Big Read plug

 

If you are partnered with another organization with a blanket license, you can show the film under their auspices.

Brenda Abney | Director
(509) 888-6242 | [log in to unmask] |  www.wvmcc.org

COMING UP AT THE MUSEUM:

   SAVE THE DATE!  January 26, 6 - 9 p.m.  Winter Wine Gala featuring wine tastings from fourteen Columbia Cascade wineries and tastes from five local restaurants.  Advance tickets: $40.  Call to reserve (509) 888-6240.

CALENDAR ON-LINE, WVMCC.ORG OR CALL 888-6240

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From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jerrie Clarke
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:17 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Movie licensing problem / Big Read plug

 

Hello all,

 

I've read with interest the variety of copyright issues over the last couple of months.  I'm now embroiled in (or maybe that's just my mood after dealing with this issue) in a movie licensing problem.  We want to show a couple of movies as activities for our participation in "The Big Read" program.  I learned, partly from this list, that we had to have a license to show the movies.  So I did some Internet research and made several calls (we can't help you, call.....).  It turns out that we have to pay $150 each for the movies we show and that's the non-profit discount. 

 

Schools and libraries can buy an annual blanket license.  However museums, even though they are educational facilities, are not eligible for a blanket license.  Unintentional non-compliance can bring a $750 fine.  Intentional is way more.  Before I write to the Copyright Office and my Congresspeople, has anyone else had a different experience?  I want the actors, writers, etc. to make a living.  However, this seems a bit steep to me.

 

Otherwise, we're having a great time with our NEA "The Big Read" grant.  We've partnered with the Public Library and the local schools for 6 weeks of activities to promote reading among children and adults. 

 

Jerrie

 

 

Jerrie Clarke
Director
Sheldon Museum
PO Box 269
Haines, AK 99827
(907) 766-2366
fax: (907) 766-2368
www.sheldonmuseum.org

 

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The "best" may be fiber optic lighting with no UV and no IR (heat). Another good alternative is LED lighting, but the color balance isn't quite worked out for good color rendering on a commercial level. Until that is done and an actual acceptable bulb can be tested, I'm not sure how much UV they will emit, but I would imagine that it will be quite low or even not present. Good luck! Marc Williams President, American Conservation Consortium, Ltd. -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of George Harris Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:05 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MUSEUM-L] florescent low energy bulbs Hello, I am wondering what the best light bulbs are to use for long term exhibits are. 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They are supported by the Ybor City Historical Society and the Parks and Rec dept. www.ybormuseum.org Elizabeth Kozlowski Curatorial Assistant Florida Craftsmen, Inc. 501 Central Ave St. Petersburg, FL 33701 t. 727.821.7391 f. 727.822.4294 -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of museum Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 6:27 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MUSEUM-L] City/non-profit agreement We have been asked by a city to assume management of their historical museum. Does anyone have an example of such agreements? we would welcome any feedback, suggestions and/or advice. Thanks in advance. Victoria Williams History and Heritage Association ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 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charset="ISO-8859-1" I'm interested in what procedures/policies other museums have when it comes to exhibits. I'd love to hear from both large and small museums as to exactly what your exhibit process is. Thanks so much. Erin O'Malley ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:33:34 -0700 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Tim Atherton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: [MCN-L] the Library of Congress on Flickr Comments: To: Museum Computer Network Listserv <[log in to unmask]> Comments: cc: [log in to unmask] In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting to see the LoC is starting to put parts of it's photo collection up online on Fickr for easy access. reasonable sized files that you can print from (though not as big as many they have online on their database - but which are harder to find) Same, on a smaller scale - with the Wisconsin Historical Society. Good way to make collections accessible. http://www.galleryhopper.org/?p=535 http://www.galleryhopper.org/?p=536 http://www.photoprogress.org/archives/257/library-of-congess-on-flickr/ http://www.galleryhopper.org/?p=540 tim a Tim Atherton Assistant Curator Musée Héritage Museum, St. Albert (780) 459-1594 [log in to unmask] _______________________________________________ You are currently subscribed to mcn-l, the listserv of the Museum Computer Network (http://www.mcn.edu) To post to this list, send messages to: [log in to unmask] To unsubscribe or change mcn-l delivery options visit: http://toronto.mediatrope.com/mailman/listinfo/mcn-l ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:02:03 -0600 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ware Petznick <[log in to unmask]> Subject: FW: [MUSEUM-L] Exhibit Plan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Erin, In brief, our process is one of evolution and theme. Each year the museum adopts an interpretive theme, and exhibits in the house and visitor center are designed to reflect it. The VC exhibit case is very small; so there it is more of a challenge to reflect the annual theme, because objects must be small to fit in the space available. The choice of objects is therefore limited in the VC. Ideally exhibit planning starts with a theme... then I search for evidence and objects... & search through our archives for evidence (diaries... etc)... By that time, enough evidence has been produced in order to create a focused exhibit, whether it be in the house museum or the VC. Like any academic process it always begins with the evidence. You tell the story it tells. We have some feedback from volunteers and might "tweak" the exhibit to respond to volunteer comments and questions. Volunteers always preview it before the general public does. That's it generally. If you have more specific questions, please let me know. Best, Ware Petznick McFaddin-Ward House -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Erin O'Malley Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:34 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Exhibit Plan I'm interested in what procedures/policies other museums have when it comes to exhibits. I'd love to hear from both large and small museums as to exactly what your exhibit process is. Thanks so much. Erin O'Malley ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:58:43 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: George Harris <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Returning Loans question In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am wondering if there is any musum out there that uses recipts when they borrow objects from individuals. What I mean is that when the objects are brought in to the museum the lender gets a recipt (not just a copy of the loan form) and then when the loan period is over they have to bring the recipt back to get their object(s) back. The way I understand it is that there is a loan form signed and then there is a section at the bottom where the lender signs when they come back to get the object to say that they have recieved it. This way the lender does not need to bring anything back to the museum when they come back. Is this an acceptable and/or standard way of doing it? I've heard concerns about identifying the person and the potential for giving the objects back to the wrong person. Thanks. Beau ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 11:09:58 -0700 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Burns, James (William)" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: CurCom Fellowship Deadline Looming In-Reply-To: A<[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2008 CurCom Fellowship Award Announcement POSTMARK DEADLINE 1/25/08 The Curators' Committee is pleased to announce the availability of two fellowships for curators who have never attended an AAM Annual Meeting before and whose major job responsibilities are the care and interpretation of their museums' collections. The two $1000 fellowships are intended to help defray the cost of attending the Annual Meeting in Denver, CO in 2008. Application Eligibility: To qualify the applicant must never have attended an AAM Annual meeting. To qualify the applicant's major (75%) job responsibility must be the care and interpretation of their institution's collection. To apply, please send: a) cover letter expressing how participation in the AAM annual meeting would benefit the applicant and their institution, how professional development is important to the applicant's career and to furthering the mission of their institution, a brief description of how collections are significant to their work and an explanation of the museum's financial need for him/her to receive this fellowship; b) a letter of recommendation from the immediate supervisor, emphasizing his/her contribution to the profession; and c) resume. Send originals, plus two sets of photocopies to: James Burns, Curator of History, Tempe Historical Museum, 809 E. Southern Ave. Tempe, AZ 85282. Due Date: postmarked on or before January 25, 2008. For further information contact James Burns at (480) 350-5110 or via email at [log in to unmask] Results will be announced in time for recipients to register for the conference before the early bird deadline. ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 10:14:43 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Sherry Kaseberg <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Vinyl Flooring in Storage MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A note of thanks to David Harvey from the Sherman County, Oregon museum folks! Lots to think about! Sherry Kaseberg Museum Coordinator ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Harvey" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 8:45 PM Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Vinyl Flooring in Storage > Sherry, > > Well, first, anything will probably be better than raw plywood in a > collections storage area. > > In terms of the conservation concerns. You need to look at both the > floor tile material and the proposed glue. Just having someone > recommend a tile brand is next to useless because manufacturers change > their formulations all the time, there can be significant differences > from lot to lot, or in different color or pattern compositions. > Conservators often assess materials intended for collections storage > or exhibitions using the qualitative Oddy test, in which a small > sample of the material is placed in a clean test tube with a measured > amount of deionized water, cotton wool, a clean silver coupon id > suspended from the stopper, and then it is placed in a lab oven and > heated to simulate accelerated aging for weeks. If the coupon has any > visible tarnish or surface effects at the end of the test then the > material is indicating a negative for use near collections. > > To get a faster assessment (in a matter of days) I once had to submit > a material to a commercial lab for a mass spec gas chromatograph > headspace analysis. In this test a measured sample of the material is > placed into the machine and incinerated - the gaseous volatiles are > analysed and this can tell you if organic acids and sulphur compounds > are elementally present and in specific concentrations. In the case ot > my material we had positives for both. This test is expensive and it > is best suited for only looking at a single sample or two, not a > multitude that can be easily done by the Oddy test as previously > described. > > The glues can be a differnet issue - often by exmaining the MSDS > (material safety data sheets) for such products a conservator can > glean insight into potential problems, and also contacting the > manufacturer can sometimes be helpful. Usually any adhesive that is > low - voc (volatile organic compounds) and "green" is usually better > then one full of organic solvents. > > So, if you have access to a conservator to consult with you on this, > you can go a long way towards at least avoiding the worst flooring > products out there. But as I said at the start, you can't get much > worse than the raw plywood that you already have. > > Cheers! > Dave > > David Harvey > Conservator > Los Angeles, CA > > > On 1/15/08, Sherry Kaseberg <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> >> Interested in advice and/or specifications for vinyl flooring for use in >> artifact storage rooms. Present flooring is plywood, unpainted. >> >> Sherry Kaseberg >> Museum Coordinator >> Sherman County Historical Museum >> Moro, Oregon >> www.shermanmuseum.org >> ========================================================>> Important Subscriber Information: >> >> The Museum-L FAQ file is located at >> http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain >> detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line >> e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message >> should read "help" (without the quotes). >> >> If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message >> to >> [log in to unmask] . 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As always, your help is much appreciated. Thanks Tracy Sullivan ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:39:38 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Sessions, Sarah J Civ NMUSAF/MUX" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Talking to students about what we do MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C85DEF.5015CE8A" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C85DEF.5015CE8A Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Christian- I too, would be happy to participate and can provide a federal/government museum perspective if that's helpful. Good luck with the effort! 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I too, would be happy to participate and can provide a federal/government museum perspective if that's helpful.  Good luck with the effort!

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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------_=_NextPart_001_01C85DEF.5015CE8A-- ========================================================================Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:40:40 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Wesley Creel <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Vacancy Announcement -- Manager, Collections Dept. Pink Palace Museum Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Good Afternoon All, Due to the retirement of Ron Brister (after 37 years of service), the Manager, Collections Department at the Pink Palace Museum, Memphis, TN is now vacant and the search to fill the position has begun...... Please see the vanancy announcement as follows....... Thanks, Wesley Wesley S. Creel Administrator of Programs Pink Palace Family of Museums Memphis, TN [log in to unmask] www.memphismuseums.org Vacancy Announcement Manager, Collections Department Pink Palace Museum Pink Palace Family of Museums Memphis, TN Job Title Collections Manager Location City of Memphis Organization Name Park Services/Pink Palace Museum Department Description MINIMUM SALARY: $4,173.87/Mo Brief Description MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS: Bachelor’s degree in museum studies, archaeology, biology, geology, history, or art history and six (6) years of curatorial or collection management experience, including four (4) of the six (6) years in a supervisory capacity or any combination or training which enables one to perform the essential job functions. A related Master’s degree preferred. Knowledge of regional archaeology, biology, geology, and history preferred. (PROOF OF EDUCATION REQUIRED) Detailed Description ESSENTIAL JOB FUNCTIONS: Works under the Administrator of Programs to be responsible for the collection management and conservation, research and authentication, and availability of the collection and its associated data for exhibits and educational programming. Prepares, administers, and monitors City and MMI annual budgets and expenditures; directs, supervises, monitors, and evaluates departmental personnel; produces, monitors, and updates a departmental strategic plan with departmental goals and objectives based on the Memphis Pink Palace Family of Museums (MPPFM) strategic plan; updates and monitors the MPPFM Collection Plan; guides the acquisition of objects and specimens for the permanent collection; updates and monitors the Collection Policy and Collection Manual governing the use, administration, and care of the permanent collection and loaned objects and specimens; supervises the Associate Curator program in partnership with faculty and deans at regional colleges and universities; researches, documents, and interprets objects in the collections for exhibits and education programs; uses expert knowledge in the subjects represented by the museum’s collections to select graphics and artifacts and write text and labels for exhibits. Assists with education program development and training of education department personnel. Initiates contact with grant funding programs to develop grants and coordinates the composition of grant applications. Writes research reports on cultural and natural history topics. OTHER FUNCTIONS: 1. Coordinates inter-departmental project staff teams, Associate Curators, and outside consultants. 2. Produces monthly progress reports. 3. Revises strategic plans, collections’ policy, collections’ plans, employee evaluations, etc. 4. Performs additional functions (essential or otherwise) which may be assigned. Job Requirements TYPICAL PHYSICAL DEMANDS: Requires the ability to effectively communicate orally and in writing with personnel, outside agencies, etc. May require lifting up to 20 lbs. of collection materials, trays of artifacts, etc. May also be required to climb short ladders and stairs, operate a digital camera, and drive the collection’s department van, pickup truck/car to pick up artifacts and make collection trips. Requires use of warehouse equipment, including two (2) and four (4) wheel dollies, appliance dollies, and pry bars. Must be able to operate a personal computer with word processing, spreadsheet and database programs, internet, and email communications. TYPICAL WORKING CONDITIONS: Work is primarily conducted in offices, workrooms, laboratories, and storerooms. How To Apply Applications will be accepted from 8:00 a.m. until 5:00 p.m. Monday – Friday in the Employment Office, Rm 1B-33, City Hall, 125 N Main or visit our satellite office at 4225 Riverdale from 8:30 a.m. - 5:00 p.m. or apply on-line at www.memphistn.gov January 23, 2008 ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 10:48:28 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Lucy Sperlin <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Returning Loans question In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit George, It seems to me a receipt is redundant and risks more complications. The lender has to sign the loan form, stating that they are loaning the item to the museum, and they get a copy which they usually bring when they pick it up. So when they do pick it up and sign for its return, you can compare signatures. If someone else came to pick it up for them, you'd have to ask for documentation that they are authorized (note from lender; proof they are executor of lender's estate, etc.)and attach it to your file copy of the form. Above all, keep those signed returned loan forms filed and easy to find (file by surname) for future. They have saved my neck many, many times when heirs come literally decades later looking for something they are sure must be at the museum because they remember their grandma once loaned it to the museum. Lucy Sperlin Butte County Historical Society -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of George Harris Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:59 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Returning Loans question I am wondering if there is any musum out there that uses recipts when they borrow objects from individuals. What I mean is that when the objects are brought in to the museum the lender gets a recipt (not just a copy of the loan form) and then when the loan period is over they have to bring the recipt back to get their object(s) back. The way I understand it is that there is a loan form signed and then there is a section at the bottom where the lender signs when they come back to get the object to say that they have recieved it. This way the lender does not need to bring anything back to the museum when they come back. Is this an acceptable and/or standard way of doing it? I've heard concerns about identifying the person and the potential for giving the objects back to the wrong person. Thanks. Beau ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:28:55 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: David Harvey <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Ballpark figure for HVAC in historic house In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Tracey, A lot more information is needed to get any kind of estimate that would be even accurate or approximate. If you have not done so you need to have a full assessment of the current environment within the structure, the engineering issues (ducting, central power, water, drains, etc.), and architectural issues. The best HVAC installations within historic structures blend these disciplines into a comprehensive plan and that is what generates the specifics needed for a project budget. A frim that just does HVAC installations will have a tendency to oversell what you may actually need. And there have been a number of low cost solutions to environmental control that can be considered before or in concert with any major HVAC project. You are far, far better off in getting grants and funding to do the research and studies first. And environmental control via an HVAC system just isn't a matter of turning it on and letting it run. Sysytem, particularly new ones, need a shake-down period as well as a program in place to "ramp" the RH in the weeks between the dryest season in Winter and the most humid period in the summer and then back to Winter again. I dealt with HVAC issues and new systems when I was at Colonial Williamsburg some years ago - so I am familiar with the general climate and region where your musuem is located. If you need a referral for a knowledgable conservator to consult with feel free to contact me off of the list. Cheers! Dave David Harvey Conservator Los Angeles, CA On 1/23/08, Tracy Sullivan <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi everyone. We are interested in installing an HVAC system in our facility, a 3- > story historic house dating to 1785. I have no concept of how much such a > thing would cost. Could anyone give me ballpark estimates based on their own > experiences? Also, if you could recommend a company in the Washington, DC > area, that would be great. > > As always, your help is much appreciated. > > Thanks > Tracy Sullivan > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:10:18 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ingrid <[log in to unmask]> Subject: San Diego Museum Happy Hour Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Join fellow museum addicts for happy hour! Every third Thursday of the month, come mingle and discuss about local exhibition with fellow museum addicts from San Diego. Upcoming Meeting : BASSAM Coffee Shop, February 21rst, starting at 5pm 3088 5th Ave. 92103, San Diego This time we will be discussing: The Soundwaves :The Art of Sampling exhibition (Museum of Contemporary Art San Diego-La Jolla) and its web-site : http://www.mcasd.org/soundwaves/ For more info, visit museumcafe.wordpress.com ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:58:55 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Marc A Williams <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Ballpark figure for HVAC in historic house In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tracey, I agree completely with David. I have seen estimates for historic houses from engineers of $150,000 for HVAC systems, when low tech approaches (and residential philosophies) would cost more like $10-20,000. We need more info from you. Are you talking of replacing just an existing heat/cooling plant, and keeping all of the existing heat/cooling distribution network (ducts, radiators), or are you starting from scratch and need everything? Are your goals to preserve collections or to provide human comfort? Unfortunately, in most historic houses (unless they have been already compromised by alterations), one or the other must be the primary design criteria. If you can fill us in a bit more, we can give you further advice. Marc American Conservation Consortium, Ltd. 4 Rockville Road Broad Brook, CT 06016 www.conservator.com 860-386-6058 *Collections Preservation Consultation *Conservation Assessments & Surveys *Environmental Monitoring & Low-Tech Control *Moisture Management Solutions *Collections in Historic Structures *Collections Care Grant Preparation *Conservation Treatment of: Furniture Painted Wood Horse-Drawn Vehicles Architectural Interiors Marc A. Williams, President MS in Art Conservation, Winterthur Museum Program Former Chief Wooden Object Conservator, Smithsonian Institution Fellow, American Institute for Conservation (AIC) -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of David Harvey Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:29 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Ballpark figure for HVAC in historic house Tracey, A lot more information is needed to get any kind of estimate that would be even accurate or approximate. If you have not done so you need to have a full assessment of the current environment within the structure, the engineering issues (ducting, central power, water, drains, etc.), and architectural issues. The best HVAC installations within historic structures blend these disciplines into a comprehensive plan and that is what generates the specifics needed for a project budget. A frim that just does HVAC installations will have a tendency to oversell what you may actually need. And there have been a number of low cost solutions to environmental control that can be considered before or in concert with any major HVAC project. You are far, far better off in getting grants and funding to do the research and studies first. And environmental control via an HVAC system just isn't a matter of turning it on and letting it run. Sysytem, particularly new ones, need a shake-down period as well as a program in place to "ramp" the RH in the weeks between the dryest season in Winter and the most humid period in the summer and then back to Winter again. I dealt with HVAC issues and new systems when I was at Colonial Williamsburg some years ago - so I am familiar with the general climate and region where your musuem is located. If you need a referral for a knowledgable conservator to consult with feel free to contact me off of the list. Cheers! Dave David Harvey Conservator Los Angeles, CA On 1/23/08, Tracy Sullivan <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi everyone. We are interested in installing an HVAC system in our facility, a 3- > story historic house dating to 1785. I have no concept of how much such a > thing would cost. Could anyone give me ballpark estimates based on their own > experiences? Also, if you could recommend a company in the Washington, DC > area, that would be great. > > As always, your help is much appreciated. > > Thanks > Tracy Sullivan > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:16:24 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: SBC Museum <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Thanks to all for answering the Corset Question! In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Friends, The Museum Listserve has come through again--thank you so much to all who took the time to respond to my query! You directed a wealth of information my way, and it is greatly appreciated. All best, -- Christian Carr Director, Sweet Briar Museum Assistant Professor of Arts Management PO Box 144, Sweet Briar, VA 24595 Phone: 434.381.6246 Fax: 434.381.6132 (mailing address same as above) Quoting Kjirsten Gustavson <[log in to unmask]>: > > By 13, an upper class girl would most likely be wearing some form > of corset, but the issue was pretty debated even at that time > period.? Many girls' corsets used nothing more than soft cotton > cords to stiffen them until the age of 14 or 15 and all had less > defined waists than the highly restrictive garment that is seen most > often today.? Some girls' corsets were only slightly more > restrictive than a fitted vest and used buttons to close.? Others > permitted a certain amount of stretch in the fabric for freer > movement.? Others used between two and six pieces of steel for > support (as opposed to an adult's corset using from 18 to more than > 30). > > The age at which to convert a girl from this softer corset and short > skirts (another emblem of youth) to a fully-boned corset and ankle- > or floor-length skirts was pretty heavily debated during the 19th > century and often depended, in part, on family preference since > changing a girl over to these garments announced her sexual > maturity.? Louisa May Alcott even discouraged corsets for young > girls in several books, saying that they discouraged healthy > growth.? The age range for this change seems to have been anywhere > between 12 and 17. > > > > Even in photographs of the period, it is pretty easy to tell which > kind of corset a girl is wearing by the shape and bend of her body > (corsets keep a girl from bending at all at the waist).? You can see > examples in the books below: > > Dressed for the Photographer: Ordinary Americans and Fashion, 1840-1900 > Victorian and Edwardian Fashion: A Photographic Survey:? Alison Gersheim > > > > For patterns for a theatrical production, I suggest that you check > out www.agelesspatterns.com.? Their patterns are affordable and > drafted directly from Harper's Bazaar pattern supplements of the > era.? I recommend the 1869 Corset for Girl 12-14 Yrs or the 1869 > Corset > for Girl 8-10 Yrs since they are relatively comfortable (I've > used the latter for a child), and children's underwear styles do not > seem to have undergone a great deal of change during that period. > > Best of luck with your? production > > Kjirsten Gustavson > Curator of Education > Clermont State Historic Site > Germantown, NY > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: SBC Museum <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 8:43 am > Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Corset Question > > > > > > > > > > Hello all--? > ? > > I am sure there is someone on the list who can offer assistance with > this question: at approximately what age did girls in the late 19th > century put on their corsets?? > ? > > I am working with my theater department on a short program featuring > the character of a girl who would have been 13 in 1882. They want > to know if she would have been wearing a corset under her > costume--and I have no idea! Would it depend on whether she needed > it or not, or were they traditionally worn when girls reached a > certain age?? > ? > > Thank you in advance for any assistance!? > > --Christian Carr? > > Director, Sweet Briar Museum? > > Assistant Professor of Arts Management? > > PO Box 144, Sweet Briar, VA 24595? > > Phone: 434.381.6246 Fax: 434.381.6132? > > (mailing address same as above)? > ? > > =========================================================? > > Important Subscriber Information:? > ? > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail > message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message > should read "help" (without the quotes).? > ? > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail > message to [log in to unmask] . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:05:52 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ryan Flahive <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Closure Dates for Sharlot Hall Museum Library & Archives Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Contact: Robin Ellensohn, 928-445-3122 [log in to unmask] http://sharlot.org FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Sharlot Hall Museum Library and Archives to be Closed Feb. 4-Mar. 4, 2008 Prescott, Arizona -- The Sharlot Hall Museum Library and Archives will be closed to all public patronage, including phone and email requests, Monday February 4, 2008 until March 4, 2008. The closing is due to the move of all archival and library collections to the new research center at 115 S. McCormick Street, Prescott, AZ. The state-of-the-art facility completes the first phase the Museum's capital campaign to enlarge and enhance the visitors’ experience. Generously underwritten by Western Newspapers Incorporated, parent company of the Daily Courier, the facility houses Sharlot Hall Museum’s extensive archival collections of pioneer, Native American, military and regional history materials, including rare books, manuscripts, diaries, personal and organizational papers, maps, photographs, oral histories, archaeological reports, local and state governmental records, and genealogical resources. The new research center will accommodate a greater number of researchers, offer a dedicated Audio-Visual Center, a Seminar Room, a Rare Book Room, an extended research room, and wireless internet access for our patrons. The center is open to knowledge-seekers of every kind: professional, academic, amateur or student, both local and out-of-town. The Sharlot Hall Museum, celebrating 80 years of service, offers visitors an Arizona history adventure, seven days a week. The three-acre campus features nine buildings, including the First Territorial Governor’s Mansion. The Museum is located two blocks west of the Courthouse Plaza on the corner of Gurley and McCormick Street in downtown Prescott. # # # ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:10:01 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Jennifer Hammond <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Paid Internship Announcement Comments: To: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Please bring this announcement to the attention of any appropriate candidates. Experience Music Project | Science Fiction Museum and Hall of Fame EDUCATION INTERN Summary: Experience Music Project | Science Fiction Museum and Hall of Fame (EMP|SFM) in Seattle is seeking an intern for its Education team. The 2008 internship will last 10 weeks during June, July and August and the intern will receive a $3000 stipend. Through dynamic initiatives focusing on American popular culture, EMP|SFM engages museum visitors in critical thinking and fosters creative endeavors. The museum, housed in a landmark Frank Gehry building, currently hosts exhibitions ranging from the groundbreaking American Sabor: Latinos in U.S. Popular Music, organized in association with the University of Washington, to the science fiction-inspired Innersphere: Sculptural Works by Rik Allen. With education programs from investigation workshops for elementary students to the annual Pop Conference; interactive galleries such as the award-winning Sound Lab; and public programming like Sound Off!, the annual competition for under-21 bands, the central message to visitors is, "You can do it too." Visit www.empsfm.org to learn more. Project: * The Education Intern's main project will be working with EMP|SFM's online curricula for teachers, with a particular focus on evaluating, revising and enhancing archived curricula. The final product will be a reorganized curricular archive featuring the revised curricula produced by the intern. * If time allows, the intern will also research ways to publicize the online curricula to educators. * The intern will have the opportunity to participate in education and public programming department events. * As needed, the intern will assist with support work for the education department, which may include filing, generating mailing lists, preparing workshop packets, etc. Minimum Requirements/Special Skills: * Bachelor's degree in education, humanities, history, anthropology, or related field * Demonstrated interest in museum career; current enrollment in master's level program leading to museum employment preferred * Experience teaching, preferably in a classroom setting, or working with classroom teachers * Proficient in writing and editing; a writing sample will be required Application Process: Interested candidates should submit the following to [log in to unmask]: * Cover letter * Resume * Writing sample, preferably written for a general audience * A minimum of 3 references including contact information for follow-up Contact Jennifer Hammond, Manager, Interpretation and Educator Resources, at [log in to unmask], with any questions. Deadline for applications is February 22, 2008. Jennifer Hammond Manager, Interpretation and Educator Resources   Experience Music Project Science Fiction Museum and Hall of Fame t: (206) 262-3256   f: (206) 262-3663 330 Sixth Avenue North   Suite 200   Seattle WA 98109 empsfm.org ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:25:57 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Keni Sturgeon <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Volunteers and membership In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_72e6fd73-dd75-4375-bf01-46f897eb641a_" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_72e6fd73-dd75-4375-bf01-46f897eb641a_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello all, I know these questions have gone around before (should volunteers be required to be members? should their membership be free or should they pay?) , but i have a different spin to ask about this topic: Has anyone included a free museum membership as a benefit of being a regular, committed volunteer and if so, have you noticed if adding such a membership helped to increase your volunteer recruitment? Thanks, Keni Keni Sturgeon Curator Mission Mill Museum 1313 Mill Avenue Salem, OR 97306 503-585-7012, ex. 232 [log in to unmask] _________________________________________________________________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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I know these questions have gone around before (should volunteers be required to be members? should their membership be free or should they pay?) , but i have a different spin to ask about this topic:

Has anyone included a free museum membership as a benefit of being a regular, committed volunteer and if so, have you noticed if adding such a membership helped to increase your volunteer recruitment?

Thanks,
Keni



Keni Sturgeon
Curator
Mission Mill Museum
1313 Mill Avenue
Salem, OR 97306
503-585-7012, ex. 232
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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --_72e6fd73-dd75-4375-bf01-46f897eb641a_-- ========================================================================Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:19:25 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Amy Sloper <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Movie licensing problem In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1908_6647504.1201126765235" ------=_Part_1908_6647504.1201126765235 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi Jerrie, You can usually negotiate a price with Swank -- and when I've worked with them in the past I never opted to rent the DVD from them directly if it was readily available from a video store. (It was an option given to me by the representative I worked with.) I was working for a university that was renting prints for admission free screenings -- usually our prices would go way down if we would commit to a number of bookings -- ie we would book an entire season at once to get a deep discount on each individual title. Anyway my point is that the price is always a negotiation, even beyond the non-profit discount, so don't be afraid to haggle if you need to. Amy Sloper Asst. Film Conservator Harvard Film Archive 617-496-8394 On Jan 22, 2008 8:09 PM, Jerrie Clarke <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Swank gave me the non-profit discount of $150 per film. > Jerrie > > Jerrie Clarke > Director > Sheldon Museum > PO Box 269 > Haines, AK 99827 > (907) 766-2366 > fax: (907) 766-2368 > www.sheldonmuseum.org > > *"Anne M. Nagrant" <[log in to unmask]>* wrote: > > Not necessarily… > > We are a City Museum that is connected with the Public Library -- I don't > mean we are located in the same place, but that the Museum Manager reports > to the Library Director. The Library has a blanket movie license, but this > applies only to films shown in the library building—I tried. > > I know this because last Halloween during a free event we showed "Abbott > and Costello Meets Frankenstein" in one of our buildings (it was shown more > like "wallpaper", meaning people came in and out throughout, no tickets). > > Every film title is licensed by a different company. This one, covered by > Swank, cost $250 plus $21 in shipping (they send you their own copy, DVD or > VHS, of it. You may watch it once to assure there are no defects, and then > once during your event. Then you must UPS it back to them.) The movie "Mad > Monster Party" is licensed by Criterion, for $225 but after explaining the > circumstances of our event he offered it for $150. > > We didn't sell tickets for our event and we didn't pre-advertise the movie > title. I think this might have mattered, but maybe not. In some cases of > ticket-selling the agreement would have been something like "you must pay X > unless your ticket sales are Y in which case…" > > Most of the public wouldn't believe we had to pay so much to show a movie > one time, but that is the case. > > Maybe somebody would be willing to sponsor you. > > -Anne Nagrant > Troy Museum & Historic Village (Michigan) > > > > *From:* Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On > Behalf Of *Brenda L. Abney > *Sent:* Saturday, January 19, 2008 1:02 AM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: [MUSEUM-L] Movie licensing problem / Big Read plug > > If you are partnered with another organization with a blanket license, you > can show the film under their auspices. > Brenda Abney | Director > (509) 888-6242 | [log in to unmask] | www.wvmcc.org > COMING UP AT THE MUSEUM: > SAVE THE DATE! January 26, 6 - 9 p.m. Winter Wine Gala featuring wine > tastings from fourteen Columbia Cascade wineries and tastes from five local > restaurants. Advance tickets: $40. Call to reserve (509) 888-6240. > CALENDAR ON-LINE, WVMCC.ORG OR CALL 888-6240 > ------------------------------ > *From:* Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On > Behalf Of *Jerrie Clarke > *Sent:* Friday, January 18, 2008 11:17 AM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* [MUSEUM-L] Movie licensing problem / Big Read plug > > Hello all, > > I've read with interest the variety of copyright issues over the last > couple of months. I'm now embroiled in (or maybe that's just my mood after > dealing with this issue) in a movie licensing problem. We want to show a > couple of movies as activities for our participation in "The Big Read" > program. I learned, partly from this list, that we had to have a license to > show the movies. So I did some Internet research and made several calls (we > can't help you, call.....). It turns out that we have to pay $150 each for > the movies we show and that's the non-profit discount. > > Schools and libraries can buy an annual blanket license. However > museums, even though they are educational facilities, are not eligible for a > blanket license. Unintentional non-compliance can bring a $750 fine. > Intentional is way more. Before I write to the Copyright Office and my > Congresspeople, has anyone else had a different experience? I want the > actors, writers, etc. to make a living. However, this seems a bit steep to > me. > > Otherwise, we're having a great time with our NEA "The Big Read" grant. > We've partnered with the Public Library and the local schools for 6 weeks of > activities to promote reading among children and adults. > > Jerrie > > > > > > Jerrie Clarke > Director > Sheldon Museum > PO Box 269 > Haines, AK 99827 > (907) 766-2366 > fax: (907) 766-2368 > www.sheldonmuseum.org > > ------------------------------ > Never miss a thing. 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You can usually negotiate a price with Swank -- and when I've worked with them in the past I never opted to rent the DVD from them directly if it was readily available from a video store.  (It was an option given to me by the representative I worked with.)  I was working for a university that was renting prints for admission free screenings -- usually our prices would go way down if we would commit to a number of bookings -- ie we would book an entire season at once to get a deep discount on each individual title.

Anyway my point is that the price is always a negotiation, even beyond the non-profit discount, so don't be afraid to haggle if you need to.


Amy Sloper
Asst. Film Conservator
Harvard Film Archive
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The SI also has the Office of Exhibits Central (http://www.si.edu/exbcent/start.htm) that would also be helpful. Best wishes, Ann N'Gadi Technical Information Specialist MCI -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Erin O'Malley Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:34 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Exhibit Plan I'm interested in what procedures/policies other museums have when it comes to exhibits. I'd love to hear from both large and small museums as to exactly what your exhibit process is. Thanks so much. Erin O'Malley ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:30:32 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Nicola Sarn <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Volunteers and membership MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C85E95.ABD68F44" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C85E95.ABD68F44 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We have been having the same conversation recently. I am an advocate for free museum membership for docents. They are not just volunteers as they truly invest their hearts and minds in the museum. Being a docent is much like being a staff member as they have to study, they are required to have certain skills and keep abreast of museum happenings. Anyone investing so much of their free time to help the museum should not have to pay to be a member when in spirit and commitment they already are. It is gratefulness that should ensue in thanking them profusely on a regular basis and giving them as many free benefits as possible. Nicola Warren Sarn School and Educator Services Coordinator Columbus Museum 1251 Wynnton Road Columbus, Georgia 31906 Phone: 706.748.2562, ext. 653 Fax: 706.748.2570 E-mail: [log in to unmask] ________________________________ From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Keni Sturgeon Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:26 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Volunteers and membership Hello all, I know these questions have gone around before (should volunteers be required to be members? should their membership be free or should they pay?) , but i have a different spin to ask about this topic: Has anyone included a free museum membership as a benefit of being a regular, committed volunteer and if so, have you noticed if adding such a membership helped to increase your volunteer recruitment? 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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------_=_NextPart_001_01C85E95.ABD68F44-- ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:02:46 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Christa McCay <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Volunteers and membership In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Keni, Our volunteers choose to become members. Not all volunteers are members though. The volunteers who are not members still recieve the same things as members but they do not receive free passes for their guests. The biggest problem I have had is getting board members to be members of the museum, but that is a whole other issue. Christa McCay, M.H.P Registrar Marietta Museum of History 1 Depot Street, Ste. 200 Marietta, GA 30060 770-794-5726 www.mariettahistory.org Quoting Nicola Sarn <[log in to unmask]>: > We have been having the same conversation recently. I am an advocate for > free museum membership for docents. They are not just volunteers as they > truly invest their hearts and minds in the museum. Being a docent is > much like being a staff member as they have to study, they are required > to have certain skills and keep abreast of museum happenings. Anyone > investing so much of their free time to help the museum should not have > to pay to be a member when in spirit and commitment they already are. It > is gratefulness that should ensue in thanking them profusely on a > regular basis and giving them as many free benefits as possible. > > > > Nicola Warren Sarn > > School and Educator Services Coordinator > > Columbus Museum > 1251 Wynnton Road > Columbus, Georgia 31906 > Phone: 706.748.2562, ext. 653 > Fax: 706.748.2570 > E-mail: [log in to unmask] > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > Behalf Of Keni Sturgeon > Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:26 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Volunteers and membership > > > > Hello all, > > I know these questions have gone around before (should volunteers be > required to be members? should their membership be free or should they > pay?) , but i have a different spin to ask about this topic: > > Has anyone included a free museum membership as a benefit of being a > regular, committed volunteer and if so, have you noticed if adding such > a membership helped to increase your volunteer recruitment? > > Thanks, > Keni > > > > Keni Sturgeon > Curator > Mission Mill Museum > 1313 Mill Avenue > Salem, OR 97306 > 503-585-7012, ex. 232 > [log in to unmask] > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we > give. Learn more. > > > ========================================================= Important > Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail > message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should > read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message > to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > > ========================================================= > Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail > message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message > should read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail > message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message > should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:03:54 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: John E Simmons <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Volunteers and membership In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_20401_12016869.1201187034873" ------=_Part_20401_12016869.1201187034873 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Right on. I think volunteers should get free membership and they should also have job descriptions. They do invest a lot in your institution, and these are simple ways of recognizing their input. I would go one step further and give your paid staff museum memberships as well. I once worked for an organization that included all staff (from director to housekeeping) as members. The next place I worked did not--staff had to pay to be members. The difference in how invested the staff felt in the institution as a whole was significant. What the memberships did was enlarge feelings of staff loyalty from the particular work unit to the whole institution. To ask someone who is already working for you (whether in a paid or volunteer position) to also pay to be a member is a bit of an insult. --John John E. Simmons Museologica 1528 ½ Puddintown Road State College, Pennsylvania 16801 [log in to unmask] 303-681-5708 On Jan 24, 2008 9:30 AM, Nicola Sarn <[log in to unmask] > wrote: > We have been having the same conversation recently. I am an advocate for > free museum membership for docents. They are not just volunteers as they > truly invest their hearts and minds in the museum. Being a docent is much > like being a staff member as they have to study, they are required to have > certain skills and keep abreast of museum happenings. Anyone investing so > much of their free time to help the museum should not have to pay to be a > member when in spirit and commitment they already are. It is gratefulness > that should ensue in thanking them profusely on a regular basis and giving > them as many free benefits as possible. > > > > *Nicola Warren Sarn * > > School and Educator Services Coordinator > > Columbus Museum > > 1251 Wynnton Road > > Columbus, Georgia 31906 > > Phone: 706.748.2562, ext. 653 > > Fax: 706.748.2570 > > > E-mail: [log in to unmask] > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On > Behalf Of *Keni Sturgeon > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:26 PM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* [MUSEUM-L] Volunteers and membership > > > > Hello all, > > I know these questions have gone around before (should volunteers be > required to be members? should their membership be free or should they pay?) > , but i have a different spin to ask about this topic: > > Has anyone included a free museum membership as a benefit of being a > regular, committed volunteer and if so, have you noticed if adding such a > membership helped to increase your volunteer recruitment? > > Thanks, > Keni > > > > Keni Sturgeon > Curator > Mission Mill Museum > 1313 Mill Avenue > Salem, OR 97306 > 503-585-7012, ex. 232 > [log in to unmask] > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we > give. Learn more. > ========================================================= Important > Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message > to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > ========================================================= Important > Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message > to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > -- ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------=_Part_20401_12016869.1201187034873 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Right on.  I think volunteers should get free membership and they should also have job descriptions.  They do invest a lot in your institution, and these are simple ways of recognizing their input.

I would go one step further and give your paid staff museum memberships as well.  I once worked for an organization that included all staff (from director to housekeeping) as members.  The next place I worked did not--staff had to pay to be members.  The difference in how invested the staff felt in the institution as a whole was significant.  What the memberships did was enlarge feelings of staff loyalty from the particular work unit to the whole institution.

To ask someone who is already working for you (whether in a paid or volunteer position) to also pay to be a member is a bit of an insult.

--John

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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------=_Part_20401_12016869.1201187034873-- ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 07:28:46 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Rusty Baker <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Volunteers and membership In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1356993312-1201188526=:42551" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit --0-1356993312-1201188526=:42551 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This certainly depends upon the size of the institution, but giving the regular volunteers actual membership or at the very least, the detailed benefits of membership, seems like not a bad idea at all. Of course, for volunteer board members, the standard is paid membership plus whatever seems appropriate in terms of individual giving. God bless their souls, many front line volunteers/docents will pay membership dues anyway because they love the place and they can afford it. And Nicola hit on something - you should thank these folks almost to the point of embarrassment. "Right on" to John, I am all for membership and its benefits for all employees since they often give more than they are compensated. To actually answer the question at hand, I have not seen nor heard of this perk increasing the number of volunteers, but it can boost membership numbers for whatever that's worth. Volunteer recruitment, training, and retention can become almost as important as the HR functions for paid staff. John E Simmons <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Right on. I think volunteers should get free membership and they should also have job descriptions. They do invest a lot in your institution, and these are simple ways of recognizing their input. I would go one step further and give your paid staff museum memberships as well. I once worked for an organization that included all staff (from director to housekeeping) as members. The next place I worked did not--staff had to pay to be members. The difference in how invested the staff felt in the institution as a whole was significant. What the memberships did was enlarge feelings of staff loyalty from the particular work unit to the whole institution. To ask someone who is already working for you (whether in a paid or volunteer position) to also pay to be a member is a bit of an insult. --John John E. Simmons Museologica 1528 ½ Puddintown Road State College, Pennsylvania 16801 [log in to unmask] 303-681-5708 On Jan 24, 2008 9:30 AM, Nicola Sarn <[log in to unmask] > wrote: We have been having the same conversation recently. I am an advocate for free museum membership for docents. They are not just volunteers as they truly invest their hearts and minds in the museum. Being a docent is much like being a staff member as they have to study, they are required to have certain skills and keep abreast of museum happenings. Anyone investing so much of their free time to help the museum should not have to pay to be a member when in spirit and commitment they already are. It is gratefulness that should ensue in thanking them profusely on a regular basis and giving them as many free benefits as possible. Nicola Warren Sarn School and Educator Services Coordinator Columbus Museum 1251 Wynnton Road Columbus , Georgia 31906 Phone: 706.748.2562, ext. 653 Fax: 706.748.2570 E-mail: [log in to unmask] --------------------------------- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Keni Sturgeon Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:26 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Volunteers and membership Hello all, I know these questions have gone around before (should volunteers be required to be members? should their membership be free or should they pay?) , but i have a different spin to ask about this topic: Has anyone included a free museum membership as a benefit of being a regular, committed volunteer and if so, have you noticed if adding such a membership helped to increase your volunteer recruitment? 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Search. ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --0-1356993312-1201188526=:42551 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This certainly depends upon the size of the institution, but giving the regular volunteers actual membership or at the very least, the detailed benefits of membership, seems like not a bad idea at all.  Of course, for volunteer board members, the standard is paid membership plus whatever seems appropriate in terms of individual giving.

God bless their souls, many front line volunteers/docents will pay membership dues anyway because they love the place and they can afford it.  And Nicola hit on something - you should thank these folks almost to the point of embarrassment.

"Right on" to John, I am all for membership and its benefits for all employees since they often give more than they are compensated.

To actually answer the question at hand, I have not seen nor heard of this perk increasing the number of volunteers, but it can boost membership numbers for whatever that's worth.   Volunteer recruitment, training, and retention can become almost as important as the HR functions for paid staff.

John E Simmons <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Right on.  I think volunteers should get free membership and they should also have job descriptions.  They do invest a lot in your institution, and these are simple ways of recognizing their input.

I would go one step further and give your paid staff museum memberships as well.  I once worked for an organization that included all staff (from director to housekeeping) as members.  The next place I worked did not--staff had to pay to be members.  The difference in how invested the staff felt in the institution as a whole was significant.  What the memberships did was enlarge feelings of staff loyalty from the particular work unit to the whole institution.

To ask someone who is already working for you (whether in a paid or volunteer position) to also pay to be a member is a bit of an insult.

--John

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Museologica
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State College, Pennsylvania 16801
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303-681-5708

On Jan 24, 2008 9:30 AM, Nicola Sarn <[log in to unmask] > wrote:

We have been having the same conversation recently. I am an advocate for free museum membership for docents. They are not just volunteers as they truly invest their hearts and minds in the museum. Being a docent is much like being a staff member as they have to study, they are required to have certain skills and keep abreast of museum happenings. Anyone investing so much of their free time to help the museum should not have to pay to be a member when in spirit and commitment they already are. It is gratefulness that should ensue in thanking them profusely on a regular basis and giving them as many free benefits as possible.

 

Nicola Warren Sarn

School and Educator Services Coordinator

Columbus   Museum

1251 Wynnton Road  

Columbus  ,
 Georgia 31906

Phone: 706.748.2562, ext. 653

  Fax: 706.748.2570

  E-mail: [log in to unmask]  

 

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Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Volunteers and membership

 

Hello all,

I know these questions have gone around before (should volunteers be required to be members? should their membership be free or should they pay?) , but i have a different spin to ask about this topic:

Has anyone included a free museum membership as a benefit of being a regular, committed volunteer and if so, have you noticed if adding such a membership helped to increase your volunteer recruitment?

Thanks,
Keni



Keni Sturgeon
Curator
Mission Mill Museum
1313 Mill Avenue
Salem, OR 97306
503-585-7012, ex. 232
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Our Museum is operated for the Nova Scotia Museum by the Board of Directors of the Lunenburg Marine Museum Society. We are employed directly by the Board, not the Province. Although we can certainly be members of the Society, we cannot become members of the Board because of a direct conflict of interest ... we'd become our own employer. However, with enough people in the Society, we could easily influence the outcome of the voting for the Board. Heather Heather-Anne Getson Historian, Fisheries Museum of the Atlantic Lunenburg, Nova Scotia [log in to unmask] http://fisheries.museum.gov.ns.ca 902.634.4794 ext.230 >>> John E Simmons <[log in to unmask]> 1/24/2008 11:03 AM >>> Right on. I think volunteers should get free membership and they should also have job descriptions. They do invest a lot in your institution, and these are simple ways of recognizing their input. I would go one step further and give your paid staff museum memberships as well. I once worked for an organization that included all staff (from director to housekeeping) as members. The next place I worked did not--staff had to pay to be members. The difference in how invested the staff felt in the institution as a whole was significant. What the memberships did was enlarge feelings of staff loyalty from the particular work unit to the whole institution. To ask someone who is already working for you (whether in a paid or volunteer position) to also pay to be a member is a bit of an insult. --John John E. Simmons Museologica 1528 ½ Puddintown Road State College, Pennsylvania 16801 [log in to unmask] 303-681-5708 On Jan 24, 2008 9:30 AM, Nicola Sarn <[log in to unmask] > wrote: > We have been having the same conversation recently. I am an advocate for > free museum membership for docents. They are not just volunteers as they > truly invest their hearts and minds in the museum. Being a docent is much > like being a staff member as they have to study, they are required to have > certain skills and keep abreast of museum happenings. Anyone investing so > much of their free time to help the museum should not have to pay to be a > member when in spirit and commitment they already are. It is gratefulness > that should ensue in thanking them profusely on a regular basis and giving > them as many free benefits as possible. > > > > *Nicola Warren Sarn * > > School and Educator Services Coordinator > > Columbus Museum > > 1251 Wynnton Road > > Columbus, Georgia 31906 > > Phone: 706.748.2562, ext. 653 > > Fax: 706.748.2570 > > > E-mail: [log in to unmask] > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] *On > Behalf Of *Keni Sturgeon > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:26 PM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* [MUSEUM-L] Volunteers and membership > > > > Hello all, > > I know these questions have gone around before (should volunteers be > required to be members? should their membership be free or should they pay?) > , but i have a different spin to ask about this topic: > > Has anyone included a free museum membership as a benefit of being a > regular, committed volunteer and if so, have you noticed if adding such a > membership helped to increase your volunteer recruitment? > > Thanks, > Keni > > > > Keni Sturgeon > Curator > Mission Mill Museum > 1313 Mill Avenue > Salem, OR 97306 > 503-585-7012, ex. 232 > [log in to unmask] > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. 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At the Hunter we have a tiered system that we use for membership. After you have led at least 25 tours then you get your free membership. Our front desk also has a list of current docents and they are always admitted free with their guests. We also have job descriptions for them as well. I believe that docents are a part of our staff.....they are just unpaid. Treat them like staff and they will return that respect seven-fold. We have doubled our docent numbers this year with these new practices. We have 25 "active" docents. That means that all 25 of them participate throughout the year....not half of them or a portion of them. I would be happy to share our docent handbook with anyone who would like a copy. It includes our policies etc. Just shoot me an email with "Docent Handbook" in the subject line. ([log in to unmask]) Hassan Najjar Manager of School and Outreach Programs Hunter Museum of American Art _____ From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John E Simmons Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:04 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Volunteers and membership Right on. I think volunteers should get free membership and they should also have job descriptions. They do invest a lot in your institution, and these are simple ways of recognizing their input. I would go one step further and give your paid staff museum memberships as well. I once worked for an organization that included all staff (from director to housekeeping) as members. The next place I worked did not--staff had to pay to be members. The difference in how invested the staff felt in the institution as a whole was significant. What the memberships did was enlarge feelings of staff loyalty from the particular work unit to the whole institution. To ask someone who is already working for you (whether in a paid or volunteer position) to also pay to be a member is a bit of an insult. --John John E. Simmons Museologica 1528 ½ Puddintown Road State College, Pennsylvania 16801 [log in to unmask] 303-681-5708 On Jan 24, 2008 9:30 AM, Nicola Sarn <[log in to unmask] > wrote: We have been having the same conversation recently. I am an advocate for free museum membership for docents. They are not just volunteers as they truly invest their hearts and minds in the museum. Being a docent is much like being a staff member as they have to study, they are required to have certain skills and keep abreast of museum happenings. Anyone investing so much of their free time to help the museum should not have to pay to be a member when in spirit and commitment they already are. It is gratefulness that should ensue in thanking them profusely on a regular basis and giving them as many free benefits as possible. Nicola Warren Sarn School and Educator Services Coordinator Columbus Museum 1251 Wynnton Road Columbus , Georgia 31906 Phone: 706.748.2562, ext. 653 Fax: 706.748.2570 E-mail: [log in to unmask] _____ From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Keni Sturgeon Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:26 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Volunteers and membership Hello all, I know these questions have gone around before (should volunteers be required to be members? should their membership be free or should they pay?) , but i have a different spin to ask about this topic: Has anyone included a free museum membership as a benefit of being a regular, committed volunteer and if so, have you noticed if adding such a membership helped to increase your volunteer recruitment? 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Agenda books from the Railway Accounting Officers Association (A.A.R.A.O.) annual meetings in 1928, 1929, 1930,1931, 1932, 1933 and 1934. 2. A.A.R.A.O. Synopsis of Decisions and Recommendations relating to Freight and Passenger Accounts, July 1888-Sept. 1917. 3. A.A.R.A.O. Synopsis of Decisions and Recommendations relating to Freight and Passenger Accounts,1888-1916. 4. Railway Accounting Procedure, no date 5. Railway Accounting Procedure, 1929-1935 All of these volumes have lots of handwritten notations. Please contact me off list and I will pass your information along. ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:08:52 -0600 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Jason Haxton <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Books needing good home In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hello Sarah Wood-Clark, I am on the Board of Trustees for a resort that is creating the Amtrak Museum on railroads in La Plata, Missouri (opening in 2011)and would like to have these rare items for research and public viewing. Could you put me in contact with your friend? Best regards, Jason Haxton Museum Director - ATSU 660.626.2359 >>> Sarah Wood-Clark <[log in to unmask]> 1/24/2008 8:58 AM >>> I'm posting this for a friend that acquired the following at a garage sale last summer and no longer wishes to house them. They are: 1. Agenda books from the Railway Accounting Officers Association (A.A.R.A.O.) annual meetings in 1928, 1929, 1930,1931, 1932, 1933 and 1934. 2. A.A.R.A.O. Synopsis of Decisions and Recommendations relating to Freight and Passenger Accounts, July 1888-Sept. 1917. 3. A.A.R.A.O. Synopsis of Decisions and Recommendations relating to Freight and Passenger Accounts,1888-1916. 4. Railway Accounting Procedure, no date 5. Railway Accounting Procedure, 1929-1935 All of these volumes have lots of handwritten notations. 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You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:54:29 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Christa McCay <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The Ruby Slipper incident In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I actually watched in horror has she picked up those slippers. I am happy to see so many non-museum people were also bothered by her actions. I would like to point out that the director just said no and didn't go into the explaination of why not but she should have know not to treat them that way. Christa McCay, M.H.P Registrar Marietta Museum of History 1 Depot Street, Ste. 200 Marietta, GA 30060 770-794-5726 www.mariettahistory.org Quoting Kevin Schlesier <[log in to unmask]>: > Any Registrars out there going to write a letter to our friend Oprah > explaining why her actions were inappropriate: > > http://www.originalprop.com/blog/?p=1496 > > "Do not arouse the wrath of the great and powerful Oz." > > Kevin > > -- > Kevin P. Schlesier > Exhibits and Outreach Librarian > Special Collections Research Center North Carolina State University > Libraries 2205 Hillsborough Street Campus Box 7111 Raleigh, NC > 27695-7111 919-513-8087 (phone) [log in to unmask] > > ========================================================= > Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail > message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message > should read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message > to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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The poor Smithsonian director looked like he couldn't believe it was happening. But what are you going to do? Tackle Oprah? It's a lesson for those of us considering giving the media access to our collections. How far does that access go? It was obvious there had been no object handling training for Ms. Winfrey. I checked out the blog link Kevin left and it looks like registrars need not worry. Oprah's viewers are already scolding her themselves. Jennifer Jennifer Holt Curator Will Rogers Memorial Museums P.O. Box 157 1720 West Will Rogers Boulevard Claremore, Oklahoma 74018 t: 918.343.8124 f. 918.343.8119 www.willrogers.com -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kevin Schlesier Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:19 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MUSEUM-L] The Ruby Slipper incident Any Registrars out there going to write a letter to our friend Oprah explaining why her actions were inappropriate: http://www.originalprop.com/blog/?p96 "Do not arouse the wrath of the great and powerful Oz." Kevin -- Kevin P. Schlesier Exhibits and Outreach Librarian Special Collections Research Center North Carolina State University Libraries 2205 Hillsborough Street Campus Box 7111 Raleigh, NC 27695-7111 919-513-8087 (phone) [log in to unmask] ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 08:52:42 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Brenda L. Abney" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Volunteers and membership In-Reply-To: A<[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C85EA9.89458C51" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C85EA9.89458C51 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You might check your bylaws - in ours it states that to be a member dues must be paid. The other issue is a philosophy of thought that correlates to giving and that is, if volunteers and staff believe in the organization, they should want to support it by becoming members. Why would anyone else want to be a member if the volunteers and staff aren't? Brenda Abney | Director (509) 888-6242 | [log in to unmask] | www.wvmcc.org COMING UP AT THE MUSEUM: Saturday, January 26, 6 - 9 p.m. Winter Wine Gala featuring wine tastings from fourteen Columbia Cascade wineries and tastes from four local restaurants. Advance tickets: $40. Call to reserve (509) 888-6240. CALENDAR ON-LINE, WVMCC.ORG OR CALL 888-6240 ________________________________ From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rusty Baker Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:29 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Volunteers and membership This certainly depends upon the size of the institution, but giving the regular volunteers actual membership or at the very least, the detailed benefits of membership, seems like not a bad idea at all. Of course, for volunteer board members, the standard is paid membership plus whatever seems appropriate in terms of individual giving. God bless their souls, many front line volunteers/docents will pay membership dues anyway because they love the place and they can afford it. And Nicola hit on something - you should thank these folks almost to the point of embarrassment. "Right on" to John, I am all for membership and its benefits for all employees since they often give more than they are compensated. To actually answer the question at hand, I have not seen nor heard of this perk increasing the number of volunteers, but it can boost membership numbers for whatever that's worth. Volunteer recruitment, training, and retention can become almost as important as the HR functions for paid staff. John E Simmons <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Right on. I think volunteers should get free membership and they should also have job descriptions. They do invest a lot in your institution, and these are simple ways of recognizing their input. I would go one step further and give your paid staff museum memberships as well. I once worked for an organization that included all staff (from director to housekeeping) as members. The next place I worked did not--staff had to pay to be members. The difference in how invested the staff felt in the institution as a whole was significant. What the memberships did was enlarge feelings of staff loyalty from the particular work unit to the whole institution. To ask someone who is already working for you (whether in a paid or volunteer position) to also pay to be a member is a bit of an insult. --John John E. Simmons Museologica 1528 ½ Puddintown Road State College, Pennsylvania 16801 [log in to unmask] 303-681-5708 On Jan 24, 2008 9:30 AM, Nicola Sarn <[log in to unmask] > wrote: We have been having the same conversation recently. I am an advocate for free museum membership for docents. They are not just volunteers as they truly invest their hearts and minds in the museum. Being a docent is much like being a staff member as they have to study, they are required to have certain skills and keep abreast of museum happenings. Anyone investing so much of their free time to help the museum should not have to pay to be a member when in spirit and commitment they already are. It is gratefulness that should ensue in thanking them profusely on a regular basis and giving them as many free benefits as possible. Nicola Warren Sarn School and Educator Services Coordinator Columbus Museum 1251 Wynnton Road Columbus , Georgia 31906 Phone: 706.748.2562, ext. 653 Fax: 706.748.2570 E-mail: [log in to unmask] ________________________________ From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Keni Sturgeon Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:26 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Volunteers and membership Hello all, I know these questions have gone around before (should volunteers be required to be members? should their membership be free or should they pay?) , but i have a different spin to ask about this topic: Has anyone included a free museum membership as a benefit of being a regular, committed volunteer and if so, have you noticed if adding such a membership helped to increase your volunteer recruitment? 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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------_=_NextPart_001_01C85EA9.89458C51-- ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:00:07 -0600 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Janzen, Mark" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The Ruby Slipper incident In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Although I agree her actions were inappropriate, I would not jump to blame her quite so quickly. According to the transcript, she was definitely pushy and presumptuous, as well as rude, but she IS Oprah after all. Surely, after couriering the objects and being so careful with their planning, they were aware that she might want to touch them. It was her show, and to be honest(even though I do not like her much) she is a pop icon as well. If it is not already, some of her stuff will end up in the Smithsonian alongside the shoes, gloves, and jacket. Should she have insisted on touching them? Absolutely not. Should they have planned ahead and told her why she should not touch BEFORE the interview segment? Absolutely yes. They should have prepared better, provided her with gloves, then asked her if she would like to touch them properly. That way the extreme honor of the action would have been conveyed. Instead they chose to let her act like a child, touch them anyway(improperly), and get away with acting the fool while doing it. Unfortunately the planners of the event, including the Smithsonian handlers, are equally responsible for setting collection care in the eyes of the public back a decade or two. I suspect it was the horrified collection manger watching from the sidelines that Dr. Glass was looking to for confirmation. It should have been the other way around. Mark Janzen Registrar/Collections Manager Ulrich Museum of Art Martin H. Bush Outdoor Sculpture Collection 316-978-5850 -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kevin Schlesier Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:19 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: The Ruby Slipper incident Any Registrars out there going to write a letter to our friend Oprah explaining why her actions were inappropriate: http://www.originalprop.com/blog/?p96 "Do not arouse the wrath of the great and powerful Oz." Kevin -- Kevin P. Schlesier Exhibits and Outreach Librarian Special Collections Research Center North Carolina State University Libraries 2205 Hillsborough Street Campus Box 7111 Raleigh, NC 27695-7111 919-513-8087 (phone) [log in to unmask] ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:25:29 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Ann Craig <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Volunteers and membership In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-2--449969978 --Apple-Mail-2--449969978 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed We provide discount annual memberships to our new and continuing volunteers ($40 individual discounted to $30; $50 family discounted to $40). We feel this offer demonstrates our appreciation for their efforts and recognizes the services they provide. We do not provide free memberships because we want all of our staff, paid or unpaid, to understand that membership is an opportunity to contribute to the future of the organization. Ann Craig Assistant Director of Education Museum of Natural and Cultural History University of Oregon 346-3116 http://natural-history.uoregon.edu On Jan 24, 2008, at 7:57 AM, Teresa Beyer wrote: > (Hello Georgia!) > In our by-laws it states those serving on the board HAVE TO BE > members. Visa versa, only members can be elected to the board. > > Recently we initiated a membership in exchange for 10 hours of > volunteer service. We have seen an increase in student volunteers, > but not in retired. Members are given voting priv. but so far, we > haven't seen any of the students take advantage of that right. > > Teresa in WY via Georgia! > WTPSHS > ========================================================= Important > Subscriber Information: > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/ > museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the > listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail > message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message > should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --Apple-Mail-2--449969978 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 We provide discount annual memberships to our  new and continuing volunteers ($40 individual discounted to $30; $50 family discounted to $40).  We feel this offer demonstrates our appreciation for their efforts and recognizes the services they provide.  We do not provide free memberships because we want all of our staff, paid or unpaid, to understand that membership is an opportunity to contribute to the future of the organization.   

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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --Apple-Mail-2--449969978-- ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:30:44 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: museum chanteuse <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Ruby Slippers, Smithsonian, Celebrities... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1525794563-1201195844=:42068" --0-1525794563-1201195844=:42068 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I guess the Smithsonian is trying to get more into main stream pop culture? Even Stephen Colbert didn't touch the Ruby Slippers when he tried to get his portrait hung in the America's Treasures show in DC! He was pretty funny in his exchanges with the curator and got his portrait hung in the Smithsonian, even if it hangs between the bathrooms... Re: Oprah She's got some of her things in museums already and it does bring considerable attention to the institution that accommodates her. After the Angel Museum in Wisconsin displayed her African American angels their attendance jumped singificantly. The Museum Chanteuse ----- Original Message ---- From: "Janzen, Mark" <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:00:07 AM Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] The Ruby Slipper incident Although I agree her actions were inappropriate, I would not jump to blame her quite so quickly. According to the transcript, she was definitely pushy and presumptuous, as well as rude, but she IS Oprah after all. Surely, after couriering the objects and being so careful with their planning, they were aware that she might want to touch them. It was her show, and to be honest(even though I do not like her much) she is a pop icon as well. If it is not already, some of her stuff will end up in the Smithsonian alongside the shoes, gloves, and jacket. Should she have insisted on touching them? Absolutely not. Should they have planned ahead and told her why she should not touch BEFORE the interview segment? Absolutely yes. They should have prepared better, provided her with gloves, then asked her if she would like to touch them properly. That way the extreme honor of the action would have been conveyed. Instead they chose to let her act like a child, touch them anyway(improperly), and get away with acting the fool while doing it. Unfortunately the planners of the event, including the Smithsonian handlers, are equally responsible for setting collection care in the eyes of the public back a decade or two. I suspect it was the horrified collection manger watching from the sidelines that Dr. Glass was looking to for confirmation. It should have been the other way around. Mark Janzen Registrar/Collections Manager Ulrich Museum of Art Martin H. Bush Outdoor Sculpture Collection 316-978-5850 -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kevin Schlesier Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:19 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: The Ruby Slipper incident Any Registrars out there going to write a letter to our friend Oprah explaining why her actions were inappropriate: http://www.originalprop.com/blog/?p96 "Do not arouse the wrath of the great and powerful Oz." Kevin -- Kevin P. Schlesier Exhibits and Outreach Librarian Special Collections Research Center North Carolina State University Libraries 2205 Hillsborough Street Campus Box 7111 Raleigh, NC 27695-7111 919-513-8087 (phone) [log in to unmask] ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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He is one of the best synthetic speakers we know, able to draw together strands from many different communities towards our common goal of linking people with content and communities. Clifford will close MW2008 with thoughts about how approaches in the museum community mirror or diverge from others. ** Regular Registration Deadline: January 31, 2008 ** If you haven't already registered, the deadline for regular registration is coming up soon. Payment for regular registrations must be *received* by January 31, 2008, in order to get lower rates. Register on-line with a credit card to ensure the better rate. See https://www2.archimuse.com/mw2008/mw2008.registrationForm.html ** Pre-Conference Workshops Filling Up ** Many of the workshops at MW2008 have limited enrollment to ensure that they are great learning experiences. Several are now approaching their limit. If you've been thinking about adding a workshop to your registration, do so soon to avoid disappointment. ** Best of the Web Nominations Close February 1, 2008 ** Help us identify the best museum web sites launched in the last year. Nominate your favourite for a Best of the Web award. See http://www.archimuse.com/mw2008/best/index.html for details. ** Demonstrations ** The first of the Demonstrations accepted for MW2008 are now listed on the conference web site. Demos are a great opportunity to see museum web sites up close and talk to the people who created them. See http://www.archimuse.com/mw2008/demos/index.html for the list. ** Papers On-line ** All the papers from past Museums and the Web conferences are available on-line. See http://conference.archimuse.com/researchForum ** Another Great Conference ** We're looking forward to MW2008 -- the twelfth time we will have come together to review the state of cultural, scientific and heritage content. With everything that's going on now, it's sure to add up to an exciting and informative week. We hope to see you in Montreal! jennifer and David -- Jennifer Trant and David Bearman Co-Chairs: Museums and the Web 2008 produced by April 9-12, 2008, Montreal, Canada Archives & Museum Informatics http://www.archimuse.com/mw2008/ 158 Lee Avenue email: [log in to unmask] Toronto, Ontario, Canada phone +1 416 691 2516 / fax +1 416 352-6025 ------------- Museums and the Web 2008 is presented in conjunction with the Department of Canadian Heritage through the Canadian Heritage Information Network (CHIN) and Canadian Culture Online (CCO). Museums and the Web 2008 is sponsored by Interwoven and Interflow. ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:37:05 -0600 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Jennifer Holt <[log in to unmask]> Organization: Will Rogers Memorial Museums Subject: Re: The Ruby Slipper incident In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you saw the incident you would have seen that they did provide her with gloves. Unfortunately that seemed to translate for her as okay to grab and wave around the objects as long as she had the gloves on. I agree that there should have been some object handling discussion/training prior to the segment--but do you think the Oprah organization actually provided the Smithsonian staff with the opportunity to do that? I wouldn't be surprised if the Smithsonian staff hadn't had the opportunity to speak in person with Ms. Winfrey until they were "on" and it was too late to stop her at that point. These things should have been discussed and planned for before the shoes ever left the museum. Maybe gloves should NOT have been provided to non-staff members because it only encourages handling? Maybe the shoes should have been kept in a plexi container so they could be seen but not touched? Jennifer Jennifer Holt Curator Will Rogers Memorial Museums P.O. Box 157 1720 West Will Rogers Boulevard Claremore, Oklahoma 74018 t: 918.343.8124 f. 918.343.8119 www.willrogers.com -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Janzen, Mark Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:00 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] The Ruby Slipper incident Although I agree her actions were inappropriate, I would not jump to blame her quite so quickly. According to the transcript, she was definitely pushy and presumptuous, as well as rude, but she IS Oprah after all. Surely, after couriering the objects and being so careful with their planning, they were aware that she might want to touch them. It was her show, and to be honest(even though I do not like her much) she is a pop icon as well. If it is not already, some of her stuff will end up in the Smithsonian alongside the shoes, gloves, and jacket. Should she have insisted on touching them? Absolutely not. Should they have planned ahead and told her why she should not touch BEFORE the interview segment? Absolutely yes. They should have prepared better, provided her with gloves, then asked her if she would like to touch them properly. That way the extreme honor of the action would have been conveyed. Instead they chose to let her act like a child, touch them anyway(improperly), and get away with acting the fool while doing it. Unfortunately the planners of the event, including the Smithsonian handlers, are equally responsible for setting collection care in the eyes of the public back a decade or two. I suspect it was the horrified collection manger watching from the sidelines that Dr. Glass was looking to for confirmation. It should have been the other way around. Mark Janzen Registrar/Collections Manager Ulrich Museum of Art Martin H. Bush Outdoor Sculpture Collection 316-978-5850 -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kevin Schlesier Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:19 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: The Ruby Slipper incident Any Registrars out there going to write a letter to our friend Oprah explaining why her actions were inappropriate: http://www.originalprop.com/blog/?p96 "Do not arouse the wrath of the great and powerful Oz." Kevin -- Kevin P. Schlesier Exhibits and Outreach Librarian Special Collections Research Center North Carolina State University Libraries 2205 Hillsborough Street Campus Box 7111 Raleigh, NC 27695-7111 919-513-8087 (phone) [log in to unmask] ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:10:56 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: prevcon <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Ballpark figure for HVAC in historic house MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings all: And to add another conservator's voice to the mix... I am in agreement with what Marc and Dave have already said. Additional issues associated with this include the construction of the historic building and whether or not it will be possible to install systems without compromising the historic fabric of the building either through the installation of equipment or through on-going operations. No matter where you are, it is important to understand at the ambient climate on a seasonal basis (exterior conditions: temperature; moisture content of the air, rainfall, etc.) as well as the building envelope. Here in the DC area, during the winter the exterior conditions can be such that introducing even a little bit of heat may drop the relative humidity inside the building to levels that may be damaging to building fabric as well as collections - the response to this may be "let's introduce some humidification during the winter", but this can exacerbate damage to the building fabric. There also are periods when the moisture content of the outside air is elevated to levels that are dangerous to the building fabric as well as to collections: some of these periods are hot and humid where cooling and dehumidification is needed; other times can be cool and humid here only dehumidification is needed. All of this needs to be considered when considering installation of systems into an existing building. This can be further complicated by sunlight falling on specific areas of the building causing localized interior conditions as well as typical operations inside of the building (i.e. office equipment; washer-dyers for collections management and maintenance, etc.) Then there are issues associated with the types of equipment required and where does it equipment go? Is there sufficient space for it inside of the building or will construction of some sort of outbuilding be required? How will the conditioned air be distributed through the building? What are options for energy to power the system? How much will it cost to operate (very important these days with escalating energy costs)? How about maintenance access and cost? There are just some of the issues that are discussed when planning systems improvements. But the first step is to know what you have and what you are trying to protect: it is critical to have an understanding of the comportment of the building and the performance of its systems in moderating the exterior climate over a full year; also what is the building envelope; what are the vulnerabilities of the collections; how are they used. This type of planning can be done in-house, but the building diagnostic is very technical and more often will require outside expertise. I believe that it is best done by a collaborative team comprised of a preservation engineer with demonstrated experience with museum climate issues and understands envelopes (not just someone who designs and installs systems), a collections conservator with demonstrated experience in climate management and building issues, and the organization's collections and facilities staff. A number of the granting agencies will fund planning efforts of this type. I hope this helps. Wendy Claire Jessup Conservator Wendy Jessup and Associates, Inc. Care of Cultural Property 933 N. Kenmore Street, Suite 323 Arlington, VA 22201 (703) 522-2801 Fax: (703) 522-2802 www.collectioncare.com -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Marc A Williams Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 4:59 PM Subject: Re: Ballpark figure for HVAC in historic house Tracey, I agree completely with David. I have seen estimates for historic houses from engineers of $150,000 for HVAC systems, when low tech approaches (and residential philosophies) would cost more like $10-20,000. We need more info from you. Are you talking of replacing just an existing heat/cooling plant, and keeping all of the existing heat/cooling distribution network (ducts, radiators), or are you starting from scratch and need everything? Are your goals to preserve collections or to provide human comfort? Unfortunately, in most historic houses (unless they have been already compromised by alterations), one or the other must be the primary design criteria. If you can fill us in a bit more, we can give you further advice. Marc American Conservation Consortium, Ltd. 4 Rockville Road Broad Brook, CT 06016 www.conservator.com 860-386-6058 *Collections Preservation Consultation *Conservation Assessments & Surveys *Environmental Monitoring & Low-Tech Control *Moisture Management Solutions *Collections in Historic Structures *Collections Care Grant Preparation *Conservation Treatment of: Furniture Painted Wood Horse-Drawn Vehicles Architectural Interiors Marc A. Williams, President MS in Art Conservation, Winterthur Museum Program Former Chief Wooden Object Conservator, Smithsonian Institution Fellow, American Institute for Conservation (AIC) -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of David Harvey Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 3:29 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] Ballpark figure for HVAC in historic house Tracey, A lot more information is needed to get any kind of estimate that would be even accurate or approximate. If you have not done so you need to have a full assessment of the current environment within the structure, the engineering issues (ducting, central power, water, drains, etc.), and architectural issues. The best HVAC installations within historic structures blend these disciplines into a comprehensive plan and that is what generates the specifics needed for a project budget. A frim that just does HVAC installations will have a tendency to oversell what you may actually need. And there have been a number of low cost solutions to environmental control that can be considered before or in concert with any major HVAC project. You are far, far better off in getting grants and funding to do the research and studies first. And environmental control via an HVAC system just isn't a matter of turning it on and letting it run. Sysytem, particularly new ones, need a shake-down period as well as a program in place to "ramp" the RH in the weeks between the dryest season in Winter and the most humid period in the summer and then back to Winter again. I dealt with HVAC issues and new systems when I was at Colonial Williamsburg some years ago - so I am familiar with the general climate and region where your musuem is located. If you need a referral for a knowledgable conservator to consult with feel free to contact me off of the list. Cheers! Dave David Harvey Conservator Los Angeles, CA On 1/23/08, Tracy Sullivan <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi everyone. We are interested in installing an HVAC system in our facility, a 3- > story historic house dating to 1785. I have no concept of how much such a > thing would cost. Could anyone give me ballpark estimates based on their own > experiences? Also, if you could recommend a company in the Washington, DC > area, that would be great. > > As always, your help is much appreciated. > > Thanks > Tracy Sullivan > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:01:44 -0700 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Dave Mead <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Interpretive plans In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I'm interested in viewing interpretive plans from other museums, both large and small. Please email replies directly to me, not the list. Thank you, David Mead Exhibits Manager Idaho Museum of Natural History [log in to unmask] ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:55:22 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Matthew White <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The Ruby Slipper incident MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Speaking as a 20 year museum veteran who has recently made the switch directly from the Smithsonian to academia which is not exactly the "general public" but is fairly close, I'd like implore my once and future colleagues to perhaps take a breath for a few minutes. 1. Everything people are saying about Oprah and how badly she handled the Ruby Slippers is true enough. For whatever reason, for those few seconds a National Treasure may have been in danger of damage or destruction. That shouldn't have happened. Discussion on how to work with the media, especially the star egos involved in big media would be a useful discussion. That being said. 2. How any of you can speak authoritatively about how the Smithsonian staff SHOULD have acted without knowing how they actually did act is beyond me. The quickness with which museum professionals are willing to pass judgement on each other with no actual information is something I do not miss. This happened less than 24 hours ago, and you saw the results of what happened, but you cannot speak to the cause without someone who was there and/or participated adding some information. Absent that you seem to be perfectly willing to throw your colleagues at the Smithsonian under a bus. It could turn out that they were completely culpable by their actions or inactions in this situation, but is it too much to ask to wait until you know what those actions were? I hope your colleagues treat you with more consideration when (not if) you get some bad publicity or a decision you make is misrepresented in the press. 3. Mark Jansen said, "Unfortunately the planners of the event, including the Smithsonian handlers, are equally responsible for setting collection care in the eyes of the public back a decade or two." Really? What is the view of collection care among the public now? What was it like a decade or two ago? My purely anecdotal evidence is that the few minutes the Ruby Slippers were on Oprah did more to humanize the profession than anything and move it away from stereotypes gained from movies (Indiana Jones, National Treasure, Mr. Bean) and TV (Ross Geller on Friends) and that assumes the public HAS an identifiable view of collections care. 4. Do you really think a letter to Oprah would matter one whit? What would be your preferred outcome? A retraction? Apology from Oprah? My guess would be any letter or letters would be met with eye-rolling and comments concerning museum curators living up to their fussbudgetty stereotypes. See point 3. (And yes I know those letters would likely come from registrars and conservators, but the public doesn't know what they do.) I'm going out on a limb here but Oprah, her staff, and the majority of her audience don't care what a few museum professionals think about a few minutes of her show. Right now the unmet structural repairs to the Smithsonian are estimated in the Billions (with a "B!") and much of that is for buildings that store some of this nation's most valuable treasures. Read any number of Washington Post articles in the last year to read about leaks, floods, and other problems directly facing Smithsonian collections. If you were to choose to write a letter, or encourage others to do the same, to have a positive impact on the well being of historic and artistic treasures of this nation, don't you think writing to your elected representatives to do something about THOSE problems would be time better spent? Again, it is not that anyone is technically wrong about the possible harm Oprah may have done, but come on people. Show at least a hint of perspective. Matt White On Thursday, January 24, 2008, at 09:41AM, "Jennifer Holt" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >If you saw the incident you would have seen that they did provide her with >gloves. Unfortunately that seemed to translate for her as okay to grab and >wave around the objects as long as she had the gloves on. I agree that >there should have been some object handling discussion/training prior to the >segment--but do you think the Oprah organization actually provided the >Smithsonian staff with the opportunity to do that? I wouldn't be surprised >if the Smithsonian staff hadn't had the opportunity to speak in person with >Ms. Winfrey until they were "on" and it was too late to stop her at that >point. These things should have been discussed and planned for before the >shoes ever left the museum. Maybe gloves should NOT have been provided to >non-staff members because it only encourages handling? Maybe the shoes >should have been kept in a plexi container so they could be seen but not >touched? > >Jennifer > > >Jennifer Holt >Curator >Will Rogers Memorial Museums >P.O. Box 157 >1720 West Will Rogers Boulevard >Claremore, Oklahoma 74018 >t: 918.343.8124 >f. 918.343.8119 >www.willrogers.com > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf >Of Janzen, Mark >Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:00 AM >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] The Ruby Slipper incident > >Although I agree her actions were inappropriate, I would not jump to blame >her quite so quickly. According to the transcript, she was definitely pushy >and presumptuous, as well as rude, but she IS Oprah after all. > >Surely, after couriering the objects and being so careful with their >planning, they were aware that she might want to touch them. It was her >show, and to be honest(even though I do not like her much) she is a pop icon >as well. If it is not already, some of her stuff will end up in the >Smithsonian alongside the shoes, gloves, and jacket. > >Should she have insisted on touching them? Absolutely not. >Should they have planned ahead and told her why she should not touch BEFORE >the interview segment? Absolutely yes. > >They should have prepared better, provided her with gloves, then asked her >if she would like to touch them properly. That way the extreme honor of the >action would have been conveyed. Instead they chose to let her act like a >child, touch them anyway(improperly), and get away with acting the fool >while doing it. > >Unfortunately the planners of the event, including the Smithsonian handlers, >are equally responsible for setting collection care in the eyes of the >public back a decade or two. I suspect it was the horrified collection >manger watching from the sidelines that Dr. Glass was looking to for >confirmation. It should have been the other way around. > >Mark Janzen >Registrar/Collections Manager >Ulrich Museum of Art >Martin H. Bush Outdoor Sculpture Collection >316-978-5850 > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf >Of Kevin Schlesier >Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:19 AM >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: The Ruby Slipper incident > >Any Registrars out there going to write a letter to our friend Oprah >explaining why her actions were inappropriate: > >http://www.originalprop.com/blog/?p96 > >"Do not arouse the wrath of the great and powerful Oz." > >Kevin > >-- >Kevin P. Schlesier >Exhibits and Outreach Librarian >Special Collections Research Center >North Carolina State University Libraries >2205 Hillsborough Street >Campus Box 7111 >Raleigh, NC 27695-7111 > >919-513-8087 (phone) >[log in to unmask] > >========================================================>Important Subscriber Information: > >The Museum-L FAQ file is located at >http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 10:22:16 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Helen Alten <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Abandoned property course online in February Comments: cc: [log in to unmask] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_715013328==.ALT" --=====================_715013328==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MS 303: Found in the Collection: Orphans, Old Loans and Abandoned Property (NEW) Instructor: Lin Nelson-Mayson Dates: February 4 through 29, 2008 Price: $425 Location: www.museumclasses.org Description: Every museum has a few stray items. Some lost tags long ago. Others turn up as surprises during inventories. A few are all that remain from long-ago exhibits. While you'll want to keep some, others may be deteriorating. Even worse, some pose significant hazards for staff and the rest of the collection. All raise legal and professional questions. How do you deal with objects that have no records? Or loans from unidentified or deceased lenders? Found in the Collection addresses how to identify abandoned objects and old loans. It further covers the application of state laws and rules for identifying owners or establishing ownership . Course Outline 1. Introduction 2. Definitions and legislation 3. Identification and process - Abandoned property and "Found in the Collection" 4. Identification and process - Old Loans 5. Systems to regulate future problems 6. Conclusion Logistics Participants in Found in the Collection work through sections on their own. Instructor Lin Nelson-Mayson is available for scheduled email support. Materials and resources include online literature, slide lectures and dialog between students and online chats led by the instructor. The course is limited to 20 participants. Found in the Collection runs six weeks. Please enroll at www.museumclasses.org and pay for the course at http://www.collectioncare.org/tas/tas.html. If you have trouble completing an on-line order, please contact Helen Alten at [log in to unmask] Textbook: The New Museum Registration Methods, 4th edition. Edited by Rebecca A. Buck & Jean Allman Gilmore. 427 pages (American Association of Museums; 1998) ISBN: 0-931201-31-4. Available through American Association of Museums. $55.00 (non-member cost) $40.00 (member cost) The Instructor: Lin Nelson-Mayson, with over 25 years of museum experience at small and large institutions, is currently the director of the Goldstein Museum of Design, part of the University of Minnesota's College of Design. Ms Nelson-Mayson's experience includes teaching museum studies and museology courses. Her particular interest is the needs of small museums. While at the Columbia Museum of Art, she chaired South Carolina's newly-created Abandoned Cultural Property Committee. The Committee promoted the state's recently adopted abandoned cultural property and old loan legislation and reviewed applications made by museums for claims under the law. In Minnesota, Ms. Nelson-Mayson initiated a committee that worked with the Minnesota Legislature to ultimately adopt abandoned cultural property and old loan legislation for Minnesota. She lectures to museum professionals and students on the topic of abandoned cultural property and old loans. ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --=====================_715013328==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" MS 303: Found in the Collection: Orphans, Old Loans and Abandoned Property (NEW)
Instructor: Lin Nelson-Mayson
Dates: February 4 through 29, 2008
Price: $425
Location:  www.museumclasses.org

Description:
Every museum has a few stray items. Some lost tags long ago. Others turn up as surprises during inventories. A few are all that remain from long-ago exhibits. While you’ll want to keep some, others may be deteriorating. Even worse, some pose significant hazards for staff and the rest of the collection. All raise legal and professional questions. How do you deal with objects that have no records? Or loans from unidentified or deceased lenders? Found in the Collection addresses how to identify abandoned objects and old loans. It further covers the application of state laws and rules for identifying owners or establishing ownership    .

Course Outline
1.      Introduction
2.      Definitions and legislation
3.      Identification and process - Abandoned property and “Found in the Collection”
4.      Identification and process - Old Loans
5.      Systems to regulate future problems
6.      Conclusion

Logistics
Participants in Found in the Collection work through sections on their own. Instructor Lin Nelson-Mayson is available for scheduled email support. Materials and resources include online literature, slide lectures and dialog between students and online chats led by the instructor. The course is limited to 20 participants.

Found in the Collection runs six weeks. Please enroll at www.museumclasses.org and pay for the course at http://www.collectioncare.org/tas/tas.html. If you have trouble completing an on-line order, please contact Helen Alten at [log in to unmask]

Textbook:
The New Museum Registration Methods, 4th edition.  Edited by Rebecca A. Buck & Jean Allman Gilmore.  427 pages (American Association of Museums; 1998)  ISBN: 0-931201-31-4. Available through American Association of Museums. $55.00 (non-member cost) $40.00 (member cost)

The Instructor:
Lin Nelson-Mayson, with over 25 years of museum experience at small and large institutions, is currently the director of the Goldstein Museum of Design, part of the University of Minnesota’s College of Design. Ms Nelson-Mayson’s experience includes teaching museum studies and museology courses.  Her particular interest is the needs of small museums. While at the Columbia Museum of Art, she chaired South Carolina’s newly-created Abandoned Cultural Property Committee. The Committee promoted the state’s recently adopted abandoned cultural property and old loan legislation and reviewed applications made by museums for claims under the law. In Minnesota, Ms. Nelson-Mayson initiated a committee that worked with the Minnesota Legislature to ultimately adopt abandoned cultural property and old loan legislation for Minnesota. She lectures to museum professionals and students on the topic of abandoned cultural property and old loans.

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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --=====================_715013328==.ALT-- ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:20:14 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Karen Eckhaus <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The Ruby Slipper incident In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_24669_32201784.1201202414777" ------=_Part_24669_32201784.1201202414777 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline My take on it... After the care taken to transport them, being told what delicate shape they're in and being asked to put on curatorial gloves, Oprah SHOULD have had the sense to know that they shouldn't be flung around! Having said that I can only provide you with my experience that despite how you prep them, people will do whatever they want once the camera is on. I once accompanied a rare pair of basketball shoes to a 20/20 taping. They were carefully packed in an archival box and were obviously handled with care. I explained to them how to handle the shoe. As soon as I took them out of the box the producers were tossing them around and kept placing them down on the desk next to a carafe of coffee and the talent's breakfast. I repeatedly had to ask them to NOT place them next to scolding hot staining beverages. As soon as the camera came on the talent picked them up and tossed them around and mocked threw them to someone off camera. You either don't let them directly touch them (handle them yourself for them) or you grin and bear it for all of the publicity it's bringing to your institution. Karen On Jan 24, 2008 1:55 PM, Matthew White <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Speaking as a 20 year museum veteran who has recently made the switch > directly from the Smithsonian to academia which is not exactly the "general > public" but is fairly close, I'd like implore my once and future colleagues > to perhaps take a breath for a few minutes. > > > 1. Everything people are saying about Oprah and how badly she handled the > Ruby Slippers is true enough. For whatever reason, for those few seconds a > National Treasure may have been in danger of damage or destruction. That > shouldn't have happened. Discussion on how to work with the media, > especially the star egos involved in big media would be a useful discussion. > > That being said. > > 2. How any of you can speak authoritatively about how the Smithsonian > staff SHOULD have acted without knowing how they actually did act is beyond > me. The quickness with which museum professionals are willing to pass > judgement on each other with no actual information is something I do not > miss. This happened less than 24 hours ago, and you saw the results of what > happened, but you cannot speak to the cause without someone who was there > and/or participated adding some information. Absent that you seem to be > perfectly willing to throw your colleagues at the Smithsonian under a bus. > It could turn out that they were completely culpable by their actions or > inactions in this situation, but is it too much to ask to wait until you > know what those actions were? > > I hope your colleagues treat you with more consideration when (not if) you > get some bad publicity or a decision you make is misrepresented in the > press. > > 3. Mark Jansen said, "Unfortunately the planners of the event, including > the Smithsonian handlers, are equally responsible for setting collection > care in the eyes of the public back a decade or two." Really? What is the > view of collection care among the public now? What was it like a decade or > two ago? My purely anecdotal evidence is that the few minutes the Ruby > Slippers were on Oprah did more to humanize the profession than anything and > move it away from stereotypes gained from movies (Indiana Jones, National > Treasure, Mr. Bean) and TV (Ross Geller on Friends) and that assumes the > public HAS an identifiable view of collections care. > > 4. Do you really think a letter to Oprah would matter one whit? What would > be your preferred outcome? A retraction? Apology from Oprah? My guess would > be any letter or letters would be met with eye-rolling and comments > concerning museum curators living up to their fussbudgetty stereotypes. See > point 3. (And yes I know those letters would likely come from registrars and > conservators, but the public doesn't know what they do.) I'm going out on a > limb here but Oprah, her staff, and the majority of her audience don't care > what a few museum professionals think about a few minutes of her show. > > Right now the unmet structural repairs to the Smithsonian are estimated in > the Billions (with a "B!") and much of that is for buildings that store some > of this nation's most valuable treasures. Read any number of Washington > Post articles in the last year to read about leaks, floods, and other > problems directly facing Smithsonian collections. If you were to choose to > write a letter, or encourage others to do the same, to have a positive > impact on the well being of historic and artistic treasures of this nation, > don't you think writing to your elected representatives to do something > about THOSE problems would be time better spent? > > Again, it is not that anyone is technically wrong about the possible harm > Oprah may have done, but come on people. Show at least a hint of > perspective. > > Matt White > > > > On Thursday, January 24, 2008, at 09:41AM, "Jennifer Holt" < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > >If you saw the incident you would have seen that they did provide her > with > >gloves. Unfortunately that seemed to translate for her as okay to grab > and > >wave around the objects as long as she had the gloves on. I agree that > >there should have been some object handling discussion/training prior to > the > >segment--but do you think the Oprah organization actually provided the > >Smithsonian staff with the opportunity to do that? I wouldn't be > surprised > >if the Smithsonian staff hadn't had the opportunity to speak in person > with > >Ms. Winfrey until they were "on" and it was too late to stop her at that > >point. These things should have been discussed and planned for before > the > >shoes ever left the museum. Maybe gloves should NOT have been provided > to > >non-staff members because it only encourages handling? Maybe the shoes > >should have been kept in a plexi container so they could be seen but not > >touched? > > > >Jennifer > > > > > >Jennifer Holt > >Curator > >Will Rogers Memorial Museums > >P.O. Box 157 > >1720 West Will Rogers Boulevard > >Claremore, Oklahoma 74018 > >t: 918.343.8124 > >f. 918.343.8119 > >www.willrogers.com > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > Behalf > >Of Janzen, Mark > >Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:00 AM > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] The Ruby Slipper incident > > > >Although I agree her actions were inappropriate, I would not jump to > blame > >her quite so quickly. According to the transcript, she was definitely > pushy > >and presumptuous, as well as rude, but she IS Oprah after all. > > > >Surely, after couriering the objects and being so careful with their > >planning, they were aware that she might want to touch them. It was her > >show, and to be honest(even though I do not like her much) she is a pop > icon > >as well. If it is not already, some of her stuff will end up in the > >Smithsonian alongside the shoes, gloves, and jacket. > > > >Should she have insisted on touching them? Absolutely not. > >Should they have planned ahead and told her why she should not touch > BEFORE > >the interview segment? Absolutely yes. > > > >They should have prepared better, provided her with gloves, then asked > her > >if she would like to touch them properly. That way the extreme honor of > the > >action would have been conveyed. Instead they chose to let her act like a > >child, touch them anyway(improperly), and get away with acting the fool > >while doing it. > > > >Unfortunately the planners of the event, including the Smithsonian > handlers, > >are equally responsible for setting collection care in the eyes of the > >public back a decade or two. I suspect it was the horrified collection > >manger watching from the sidelines that Dr. Glass was looking to for > >confirmation. It should have been the other way around. > > > >Mark Janzen > >Registrar/Collections Manager > >Ulrich Museum of Art > >Martin H. Bush Outdoor Sculpture Collection > >316-978-5850 > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > Behalf > >Of Kevin Schlesier > >Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:19 AM > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: The Ruby Slipper incident > > > >Any Registrars out there going to write a letter to our friend Oprah > >explaining why her actions were inappropriate: > > > >http://www.originalprop.com/blog/?p96 > > > >"Do not arouse the wrath of the great and powerful Oz." > > > >Kevin > > > >-- > >Kevin P. Schlesier > >Exhibits and Outreach Librarian > >Special Collections Research Center > >North Carolina State University Libraries > >2205 Hillsborough Street > >Campus Box 7111 > >Raleigh, NC 27695-7111 > > > >919-513-8087 (phone) > >[log in to unmask] > > > >========================================================> >Important Subscriber Information: > > > >The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > >http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > >information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail > message > >to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "help" > >(without the quotes). > > > >If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to > >[log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "Signoff > >Museum-L" (without the quotes). > > > >========================================================> >Important Subscriber Information: > > > >The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > >http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > >information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail > message > >to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "help" > >(without the quotes). > > > >If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to > >[log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "Signoff > >Museum-L" (without the quotes). > > > >========================================================> >Important Subscriber Information: > > > >The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message > to [log in to unmask] . 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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------=_Part_24669_32201784.1201202414777-- ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:31:13 -0600 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Janzen, Mark" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The Ruby Slipper incident In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT You are absolutely correct Matt. They (Oprah and her general audience) do not care one tiny bit what we think. I believe that is the central problem, but I do not think inaction is going to help. Even if action on our part, in the form of outraged letters from fussbudgety museum people, will not help, it is at the very least taking a stand. And yes, I can speak authoritatively concerning what they SHOULD have done, irrespective of what they actually may have done. If they did prepare Ms. Winfrey, then she is either willfully stupid or they did a poor job in their preparation. If the production company did not give them the opportunity, then the objects should not have been put at risk. Admittedly, I do not know the whole story, but the result is obvious. Karen's example is a good reason such things should not continue to happen. Dr. Green was clearly over his head with people who did not care about his concerns. I intend to place blame on no one in particular. It was a group effort I realize this is certainly one of those "complex" situations in which the blame for event X can be shifted from one party to another depending upon your perspective. So be it. Nonetheless, it should not be ignored, and the Smithsonian's budgetary woes are certainly not part of the equation. Also true, Matt, that the public has no surveyed or quantified opinion of collection care, and most of them probably think Dr. Jones has the best line on professional museum activity. I work at the same institution with the man who is often cited as the source for the Indiana Jones persona, and he does nothing to undermine that persona for us. After all, most of the museum oriented stories that end up in the news involve theft, misappropriation, mishandling, or some other problem, as opposed to stories about handling and protecting things properly. Does that mean we should not try? This seems a perfect opportunity to point out to the somewhat larger number of general public who might be paying attention to this particular soundbyte exactly what happened incorrectly and why. The probable fact that they will not care is irrelevant. Your anecdotal evidence, similar to my anecdotal evidence you chose to quote, is partially true. The visibility of the slippers and other objects may have been intended to help humanize the profession with the use of gloves and publicity concerning their getting to the show. However, Oprah's actions undid that effort. She essentially looted that particular tomb of national treasures right from underneath the nose of the faithful guardian, and sold the show to the highest bidder. Collection care professionals 0: Indiana Jones aficionados 1. Mark Janzen Registrar/Collections Manager Ulrich Museum of Art Martin H. Bush Outdoor Sculpture Collection 316-978-5850 -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Matthew White Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 12:55 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: The Ruby Slipper incident Speaking as a 20 year museum veteran who has recently made the switch directly from the Smithsonian to academia which is not exactly the "general public" but is fairly close, I'd like implore my once and future colleagues to perhaps take a breath for a few minutes. 1. Everything people are saying about Oprah and how badly she handled the Ruby Slippers is true enough. For whatever reason, for those few seconds a National Treasure may have been in danger of damage or destruction. That shouldn't have happened. Discussion on how to work with the media, especially the star egos involved in big media would be a useful discussion. That being said. 2. How any of you can speak authoritatively about how the Smithsonian staff SHOULD have acted without knowing how they actually did act is beyond me. The quickness with which museum professionals are willing to pass judgement on each other with no actual information is something I do not miss. This happened less than 24 hours ago, and you saw the results of what happened, but you cannot speak to the cause without someone who was there and/or participated adding some information. Absent that you seem to be perfectly willing to throw your colleagues at the Smithsonian under a bus. It could turn out that they were completely culpable by their actions or inactions in this situation, but is it too much to ask to wait until you know what those actions were? I hope your colleagues treat you with more consideration when (not if) you get some bad publicity or a decision you make is misrepresented in the press. 3. Mark Jansen said, "Unfortunately the planners of the event, including the Smithsonian handlers, are equally responsible for setting collection care in the eyes of the public back a decade or two." Really? What is the view of collection care among the public now? What was it like a decade or two ago? My purely anecdotal evidence is that the few minutes the Ruby Slippers were on Oprah did more to humanize the profession than anything and move it away from stereotypes gained from movies (Indiana Jones, National Treasure, Mr. Bean) and TV (Ross Geller on Friends) and that assumes the public HAS an identifiable view of collections care. 4. Do you really think a letter to Oprah would matter one whit? What would be your preferred outcome? A retraction? Apology from Oprah? My guess would be any letter or letters would be met with eye-rolling and comments concerning museum curators living up to their fussbudgetty stereotypes. See point 3. (And yes I know those letters would likely come from registrars and conservators, but the public doesn't know what they do.) I'm going out on a limb here but Oprah, her staff, and the majority of her audience don't care what a few museum professionals think about a few minutes of her show. Right now the unmet structural repairs to the Smithsonian are estimated in the Billions (with a "B!") and much of that is for buildings that store some of this nation's most valuable treasures. Read any number of Washington Post articles in the last year to read about leaks, floods, and other problems directly facing Smithsonian collections. If you were to choose to write a letter, or encourage others to do the same, to have a positive impact on the well being of historic and artistic treasures of this nation, don't you think writing to your elected representatives to do something about THOSE problems would be time better spent? Again, it is not that anyone is technically wrong about the possible harm Oprah may have done, but come on people. Show at least a hint of perspective. Matt White On Thursday, January 24, 2008, at 09:41AM, "Jennifer Holt" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >If you saw the incident you would have seen that they did provide her with >gloves. Unfortunately that seemed to translate for her as okay to grab and >wave around the objects as long as she had the gloves on. I agree that >there should have been some object handling discussion/training prior to the >segment--but do you think the Oprah organization actually provided the >Smithsonian staff with the opportunity to do that? I wouldn't be surprised >if the Smithsonian staff hadn't had the opportunity to speak in person with >Ms. Winfrey until they were "on" and it was too late to stop her at that >point. These things should have been discussed and planned for before the >shoes ever left the museum. Maybe gloves should NOT have been provided to >non-staff members because it only encourages handling? Maybe the shoes >should have been kept in a plexi container so they could be seen but not >touched? > >Jennifer > > >Jennifer Holt >Curator >Will Rogers Memorial Museums >P.O. Box 157 >1720 West Will Rogers Boulevard >Claremore, Oklahoma 74018 >t: 918.343.8124 >f. 918.343.8119 >www.willrogers.com > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf >Of Janzen, Mark >Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:00 AM >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] The Ruby Slipper incident > >Although I agree her actions were inappropriate, I would not jump to blame >her quite so quickly. According to the transcript, she was definitely pushy >and presumptuous, as well as rude, but she IS Oprah after all. > >Surely, after couriering the objects and being so careful with their >planning, they were aware that she might want to touch them. It was her >show, and to be honest(even though I do not like her much) she is a pop icon >as well. If it is not already, some of her stuff will end up in the >Smithsonian alongside the shoes, gloves, and jacket. > >Should she have insisted on touching them? Absolutely not. >Should they have planned ahead and told her why she should not touch BEFORE >the interview segment? Absolutely yes. > >They should have prepared better, provided her with gloves, then asked her >if she would like to touch them properly. That way the extreme honor of the >action would have been conveyed. Instead they chose to let her act like a >child, touch them anyway(improperly), and get away with acting the fool >while doing it. > >Unfortunately the planners of the event, including the Smithsonian handlers, >are equally responsible for setting collection care in the eyes of the >public back a decade or two. I suspect it was the horrified collection >manger watching from the sidelines that Dr. Glass was looking to for >confirmation. It should have been the other way around. > >Mark Janzen >Registrar/Collections Manager >Ulrich Museum of Art >Martin H. Bush Outdoor Sculpture Collection >316-978-5850 > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf >Of Kevin Schlesier >Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:19 AM >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: The Ruby Slipper incident > >Any Registrars out there going to write a letter to our friend Oprah >explaining why her actions were inappropriate: > >http://www.originalprop.com/blog/?p96 > >"Do not arouse the wrath of the great and powerful Oz." > >Kevin > >-- >Kevin P. Schlesier >Exhibits and Outreach Librarian >Special Collections Research Center >North Carolina State University Libraries >2205 Hillsborough Street >Campus Box 7111 >Raleigh, NC 27695-7111 > >919-513-8087 (phone) >[log in to unmask] > >========================================================>Important Subscriber Information: > >The Museum-L FAQ file is located at >http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed >information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message >to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" >(without the quotes). > >If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to >[log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff >Museum-L" (without the quotes). > >========================================================>Important Subscriber Information: > >The Museum-L FAQ file is located at >http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:48:03 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Deb Fuller <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The Ruby Slipper incident In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Jan 24, 2008 2:20 PM, Karen Eckhaus <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > My take on it... > > After the care taken to transport them, being told what delicate shape > they're in and being asked to put on curatorial gloves, Oprah SHOULD have > had the sense to know that they shouldn't be flung around! EXACTLY!! A quotation from the transcript of the show: Oprah Winfrey: "Can I touch them? Am I allowed to touch them?" Dr. Glass: "No, you're not allowed to touch them. But if you, you uh-" Oprah Winfrey: "So glad I asked. I saw everyone with gloves on - you have to touch them with gloves on, right?" [Oprah picks up gloves] Dr. Glass: "Uh, well, yeah, I don't even touch them with gloves on… but, well, uh-" Oprah Winfrey: "I just want to touch them." --------------------------- Oprah is being a bossy celebrity and using her media skills to bulldoze over a curator who is out of his league. I'm sure he was nervous being on national TV next to a big star and tried to steer her away from touching them as best as he could. But geez woman, if the curator who flew the objects to your studio in a special box with armed guards says "No," ya think he has a reason? I think in situations like this, museums should have speciality trained "media curators" who have experience speaking on camera and dealing with celebrities. It takes a special skill to tactfully put your foot down when it comes to handling your objects as well as the ability to think on your feet and disarm celebrities who want to touch objects or play around with them while on the air. They also need the authority to say "I'm sorry but you either broke our conditions or did not meet them for having our objects on your show and therefore we will not allow you show them on the air." You also need a good PR department to spin that in your favor. No media coverage is worth endangering or damaging priceless objects nor should curators have to put up with media celebs who think they can play around with national treasures just because they have gloves on. I didn't have much respect for Oprah before and I certainly don't have any respect for her now. 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There are also many, many platforms to choose from (this one included) that enable these discussions to take place. This discussion group is dedicated to museums who have decided to represent their institution on Facebook, and not unsurprisingly, it takes place on Facebook. You are welcome to join in the discussion if your own institution has decided to set up your own Facebook platform, or if you are considering doing so, and would like to hear from others about their experience. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid�73798651 Dr. Susan Hazan Jerusalem ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). 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As we are all acutely aware, there are many discussions taking place online on a host of different subjects that interests the museum community.  There are also many, many platforms to choose from (this one included) that enable these discussions to take place.

This discussion group is dedicated to museums who have decided to represent their institution on Facebook, and not unsurprisingly, it takes place on Facebook. You are welcome to join in the discussion if your own institution has decided to set up your own Facebook platform, or if you are considering doing so, and would like to hear from others about their experience.

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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --Boundary_(ID_BywOG1b7vzSOdojNI3bTNQ)-- ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:02:17 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: David Harvey <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Breaking News - Four Museums in Southern California Raided by Federal Authorities MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_31186_20836934.1201204937558" ------=_Part_31186_20836934.1201204937558 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi Everyone, I think that this may be bigger than a mishandled pair of Ruby Slippers.... Here is a link to a breaking news story that will have major repercussions on the Museum community. http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-museums25jan25,0,101198.story?page=1 This is apparently a mulit-year, multi-agency sting operation on the trafficking of illegally obtained artifacts and art - involving customs and IRS agents. Stay tuned! Cheers! Dave David Harvey Conservator Los Angeles, CA On Jan 24, 2008 11:48 AM, Deb Fuller <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > On Jan 24, 2008 2:20 PM, Karen Eckhaus <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > My take on it... > > > > After the care taken to transport them, being told what delicate shape > > they're in and being asked to put on curatorial gloves, Oprah SHOULD > have > > had the sense to know that they shouldn't be flung around! > > EXACTLY!! > > A quotation from the transcript of the show: > > > Oprah Winfrey: "Can I touch them? Am I allowed to touch them?" > > Dr. Glass: "No, you're not allowed to touch them. But if you, you uh-" > > Oprah Winfrey: "So glad I asked. I saw everyone with gloves on - you > have to touch them with gloves on, right?" > > [Oprah picks up gloves] > > Dr. Glass: "Uh, well, yeah, I don't even touch them with gloves on… > but, well, uh-" > > Oprah Winfrey: "I just want to touch them." > > --------------------------- > Oprah is being a bossy celebrity and using her media skills to > bulldoze over a curator who is out of his league. I'm sure he was > nervous being on national TV next to a big star and tried to steer her > away from touching them as best as he could. But geez woman, if the > curator who flew the objects to your studio in a special box with > armed guards says "No," ya think he has a reason? > > I think in situations like this, museums should have speciality > trained "media curators" who have experience speaking on camera and > dealing with celebrities. It takes a special skill to tactfully put > your foot down when it comes to handling your objects as well as the > ability to think on your feet and disarm celebrities who want to touch > objects or play around with them while on the air. They also need the > authority to say "I'm sorry but you either broke our conditions or did > not meet them for having our objects on your show and therefore we > will not allow you show them on the air." You also need a good PR > department to spin that in your favor. > > No media coverage is worth endangering or damaging priceless objects > nor should curators have to put up with media celebs who think they > can play around with national treasures just because they have gloves > on. I didn't have much respect for Oprah before and I certainly don't > have any respect for her now. > > Deb > > ========================================================= > Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message > to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > > ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------=_Part_31186_20836934.1201204937558 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Hi Everyone,

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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------=_Part_31186_20836934.1201204937558-- ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:11:28 -0700 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Pete Lundskow <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The Ruby Slipper incident In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit An interesting side note to this is the slippers may or may not have been worn by Judy Garland. In the link mentioned in the first posting on this subject there is mention of a book by Rhys Thomas "The Ruby slippers of Oz". In this book there is a note that states there is no actually proof that she did ware the Smithsonian pair. The question being does the Smithsonian have the documentation to prove she wore this pair? If not this brings up the other issue that often comes up in our profession about claiming things that are not so, the "George Washington Slept Here" syndrome. My two cents on the issue is I agree with an earlier comment about having them in a sealed Plexiglas box could have avoided the whole issue. Peter Lundskow -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Deb Fuller Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 12:48 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] The Ruby Slipper incident On Jan 24, 2008 2:20 PM, Karen Eckhaus <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > My take on it... > > After the care taken to transport them, being told what delicate shape > they're in and being asked to put on curatorial gloves, Oprah SHOULD have > had the sense to know that they shouldn't be flung around! EXACTLY!! A quotation from the transcript of the show: Oprah Winfrey: "Can I touch them? Am I allowed to touch them?" Dr. Glass: "No, you're not allowed to touch them. But if you, you uh-" Oprah Winfrey: "So glad I asked. I saw everyone with gloves on - you have to touch them with gloves on, right?" [Oprah picks up gloves] Dr. Glass: "Uh, well, yeah, I don't even touch them with gloves on. but, well, uh-" Oprah Winfrey: "I just want to touch them." --------------------------- Oprah is being a bossy celebrity and using her media skills to bulldoze over a curator who is out of his league. I'm sure he was nervous being on national TV next to a big star and tried to steer her away from touching them as best as he could. But geez woman, if the curator who flew the objects to your studio in a special box with armed guards says "No," ya think he has a reason? I think in situations like this, museums should have speciality trained "media curators" who have experience speaking on camera and dealing with celebrities. It takes a special skill to tactfully put your foot down when it comes to handling your objects as well as the ability to think on your feet and disarm celebrities who want to touch objects or play around with them while on the air. They also need the authority to say "I'm sorry but you either broke our conditions or did not meet them for having our objects on your show and therefore we will not allow you show them on the air." You also need a good PR department to spin that in your favor. No media coverage is worth endangering or damaging priceless objects nor should curators have to put up with media celebs who think they can play around with national treasures just because they have gloves on. I didn't have much respect for Oprah before and I certainly don't have any respect for her now. Deb ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1241 - Release Date: 1/24/2008 9:58 AM ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:29:45 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Dean Krimmel <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The Ruby Slipper incident MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit A staff role playing session may have helped, if only to make obvious to the director what could happen! The again, I know directors who won't wear gloves in their own museums. Dean Dean Krimmel, Creative Museum Services Affiliated with Qm2: Quality Management to a Higher Power Improving Museums, Historic Sites, Cultural Organizations and Businesses 423 Range Road Baltimore, Maryland 21204 410-746-8350; [log in to unmask]; www.qm2.org Check out my recent project: Go to www.pnclegacyproject.com and click on Oral Histories ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Holt" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 12:37 PM Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] The Ruby Slipper incident > If you saw the incident you would have seen that they did provide her with > gloves. Unfortunately that seemed to translate for her as okay to grab > and > wave around the objects as long as she had the gloves on. I agree that > there should have been some object handling discussion/training prior to > the > segment--but do you think the Oprah organization actually provided the > Smithsonian staff with the opportunity to do that? I wouldn't be > surprised > if the Smithsonian staff hadn't had the opportunity to speak in person > with > Ms. Winfrey until they were "on" and it was too late to stop her at that > point. These things should have been discussed and planned for before the > shoes ever left the museum. Maybe gloves should NOT have been provided to > non-staff members because it only encourages handling? Maybe the shoes > should have been kept in a plexi container so they could be seen but not > touched? > > Jennifer > > > Jennifer Holt > Curator > Will Rogers Memorial Museums > P.O. Box 157 > 1720 West Will Rogers Boulevard > Claremore, Oklahoma 74018 > t: 918.343.8124 > f. 918.343.8119 > www.willrogers.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > Behalf > Of Janzen, Mark > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 11:00 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] The Ruby Slipper incident > > Although I agree her actions were inappropriate, I would not jump to blame > her quite so quickly. According to the transcript, she was definitely > pushy > and presumptuous, as well as rude, but she IS Oprah after all. > > Surely, after couriering the objects and being so careful with their > planning, they were aware that she might want to touch them. It was her > show, and to be honest(even though I do not like her much) she is a pop > icon > as well. If it is not already, some of her stuff will end up in the > Smithsonian alongside the shoes, gloves, and jacket. > > Should she have insisted on touching them? Absolutely not. > Should they have planned ahead and told her why she should not touch > BEFORE > the interview segment? Absolutely yes. > > They should have prepared better, provided her with gloves, then asked her > if she would like to touch them properly. That way the extreme honor of > the > action would have been conveyed. Instead they chose to let her act like a > child, touch them anyway(improperly), and get away with acting the fool > while doing it. > > Unfortunately the planners of the event, including the Smithsonian > handlers, > are equally responsible for setting collection care in the eyes of the > public back a decade or two. I suspect it was the horrified collection > manger watching from the sidelines that Dr. Glass was looking to for > confirmation. It should have been the other way around. > > Mark Janzen > Registrar/Collections Manager > Ulrich Museum of Art > Martin H. Bush Outdoor Sculpture Collection > 316-978-5850 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > Behalf > Of Kevin Schlesier > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:19 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: The Ruby Slipper incident > > Any Registrars out there going to write a letter to our friend Oprah > explaining why her actions were inappropriate: > > http://www.originalprop.com/blog/?p96 > > "Do not arouse the wrath of the great and powerful Oz." > > Kevin > > -- > Kevin P. Schlesier > Exhibits and Outreach Librarian > Special Collections Research Center > North Carolina State University Libraries > 2205 Hillsborough Street > Campus Box 7111 > Raleigh, NC 27695-7111 > > 919-513-8087 (phone) > [log in to unmask] > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail > message > to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "help" > (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "Signoff > Museum-L" (without the quotes). > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail > message > to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "help" > (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . 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The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:33:25 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Richardson, Lindsey" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The Ruby Slipper incident In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "It is Oprah, after all." I think that sums up why Smithsonian staffers weren't able to plan ahead as well as they might have liked. They may have anticipated certain problems, but if Oprah's staff and schedule didn't allow the museum staffers to offer Oprah training or to explain off-camera in advance what was acceptable or not, then the problem didn't rest with poor planning. It rests on the inequity of the relationship: in a match between Smithsonian and Oprah, Oprah presumes first place. She's not used to anyone being the boss of her. And we've all learned our lesson: ALWAYS explain the rules before the cameras roll! Lindsey Richardson Curator of Collections Boston Children's Museum 300 Congress Street Boston, MA 02210 Tel. 617 426 6500 x366 Fax 617 426 1944 www.bostonchildrensmuseum.org -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Janzen, Mark Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 12:00 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] The Ruby Slipper incident Although I agree her actions were inappropriate, I would not jump to blame her quite so quickly. According to the transcript, she was definitely pushy and presumptuous, as well as rude, but she IS Oprah after all. Surely, after couriering the objects and being so careful with their planning, they were aware that she might want to touch them. It was her show, and to be honest(even though I do not like her much) she is a pop icon as well. If it is not already, some of her stuff will end up in the Smithsonian alongside the shoes, gloves, and jacket. Should she have insisted on touching them? Absolutely not. Should they have planned ahead and told her why she should not touch BEFORE the interview segment? Absolutely yes. They should have prepared better, provided her with gloves, then asked her if she would like to touch them properly. That way the extreme honor of the action would have been conveyed. Instead they chose to let her act like a child, touch them anyway(improperly), and get away with acting the fool while doing it. Unfortunately the planners of the event, including the Smithsonian handlers, are equally responsible for setting collection care in the eyes of the public back a decade or two. I suspect it was the horrified collection manger watching from the sidelines that Dr. Glass was looking to for confirmation. It should have been the other way around. Mark Janzen Registrar/Collections Manager Ulrich Museum of Art Martin H. Bush Outdoor Sculpture Collection 316-978-5850 -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kevin Schlesier Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:19 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: The Ruby Slipper incident Any Registrars out there going to write a letter to our friend Oprah explaining why her actions were inappropriate: http://www.originalprop.com/blog/?p=1496 "Do not arouse the wrath of the great and powerful Oz." Kevin -- Kevin P. 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 20:34:03 GMT Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Patrick Weissend <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The Ruby Slipper incident Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_ULBTX6NCS8GJ2NSN2WRC" --------------Boundary-00=_ULBTX6NCS8GJ2NSN2WRC Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_GLBTM1V0I98QBO2LBOAR" --------------Boundary-00=_GLBTM1V0I98QBO2LBOAR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Maybe Oprah will kick the Smithsonian a few million bucks as a thank you. And, I sure the travel with the arm guards and the first class ticket were a publicity stunt paid for by Oprah. (But that still doesn't give her the right to touch the stuff.) Let's not forget why a lot of us got into the field: because we get to handle this COOL stuff! Now lets ask the question: Lets say, hypothetically, you had something really cool in your collection. George Washington's wooden teeth, Abe Lincoln's stovepipe hat, the ruby slippers, the Declaration of Independence, Marilyn Monroe's dress something lick that. Would you let a potential (very large) donor touch it? (Properly of course). All the best, patPatrick R. Weissend Director Holland Land Office Museum 131 West Main Street Batavia, NY 14020 (585) 343-4727 www.hollandlandoffice.com -----Original Message----- From: "Pete Lundskow" <[log in to unmask]> Sent 1/24/2008 3:11:28 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: The Ruby Slipper incidentAn interesting side note to this is the slippers may or may not have been worn by Judy Garland. In the link mentioned in the first posting on this subject there is mention of a book by Rhys Thomas "The Ruby slippers of Oz". In this book there is a note that states there is no actually proof that she did ware the Smithsonian pair. The question being does the Smithsonian have the documentation to prove she wore this pair? If not this brings up the other issue that often comes up in our profession about claiming things that are not so, the "George Washington Slept Here" syndrome. My two cents on the issue is I agree with an earlier comment about having them in a sealed Plexiglas box could have avoided the whole issue. Peter Lundskow -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Deb Fuller Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 12:48 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] The Ruby Slipper incident On Jan 24, 2008 2:20 PM, Karen Eckhaus <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > My take on it... > > After the care taken to transport them, being told what delicate shape > they're in and being asked to put on curatorial gloves, Oprah SHOULD have > had the sense to know that they shouldn't be flung around! EXACTLY!! A quotation from the transcript of the show: Oprah Winfrey: "Can I touch them? Am I allowed to touch them?" Dr. Glass: "No, you're not allowed to touch them. But if you, you uh-" Oprah Winfrey: "So glad I asked. I saw everyone with gloves on - you have to touch them with gloves on, right?" [Oprah picks up gloves] Dr. Glass: "Uh, well, yeah, I don't even touch them with gloves on. but, well, uh-" Oprah Winfrey: "I just want to touch them." --------------------------- Oprah is being a bossy celebrity and using her media skills to bulldoze over a curator who is out of his league. I'm sure he was nervous being on national TV next to a big star and tried to steer her away from touching them as best as he could. But geez woman, if the curator who flew the objects to your studio in a special box with armed guards says "No," ya think he has a reason? I think in situations like this, museums should have speciality trained "media curators" who have experience speaking on camera and dealing with celebrities. It takes a special skill to tactfully put your foot down when it comes to handling your objects as well as the ability to think on your feet and disarm celebrities who want to touch objects or play around with them while on the air. They also need the authority to say "I'm sorry but you either broke our conditions or did not meet them for having our objects on your show and therefore we will not allow you show them on the air." You also need a good PR department to spin that in your favor. No media coverage is worth endangering or damaging priceless objects nor should curators have to put up with media celebs who think they can play around with national treasures just because they have gloves on. I didn't have much respect for Oprah before and I certainly don't have any respect for her now. Deb ======================================================== Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located athttp://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). 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And, I sure the travel with the arm guards and the first class ticket were a publicity stunt paid for by Oprah. (But that still doesn't give her the right to touch the stuff.)

Let's not forget why a lot of us got into the field: because we get to handle this COOL stuff!

Now lets ask the question: Lets say, hypothetically, you had something really cool in your collection. George Washington's wooden teeth, Abe Lincoln's stovepipe hat, the ruby slippers, the Declaration of Independence, Marilyn Monroe's dress something lick that.

Would you let a potential (very large) donor touch it? (Properly of course).


All the best,



pat

Patrick R. Weissend
Director
Holland Land Office Museum
131 West Main Street
Batavia, NY 14020
(585) 343-4727
www.hollandlandoffice.com

An interesting side note to this is the slippers may or may not have been

worn by Judy Garland.  In the link mentioned in the first posting on this

subject there is mention of a book by Rhys Thomas "The Ruby slippers of Oz".

In this book there is a note that states there is no actually proof that she

did ware the Smithsonian pair.  The question being does the Smithsonian have

the documentation to prove she wore this pair?  If not this brings up the

other issue that often comes up in our profession about claiming things that

are not so, the "George Washington Slept Here" syndrome. 

My two cents on the issue is I agree with an earlier comment about having

them in a sealed Plexiglas box could have avoided the whole issue.



Peter Lundskow



-----Original Message-----

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Of Deb Fuller

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Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] The Ruby Slipper incident



On Jan 24, 2008 2:20 PM, Karen Eckhaus <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> My take on it...

>

> After the care taken to transport them, being told what delicate shape

> they're in and being asked to put on curatorial gloves, Oprah SHOULD have

> had the sense to know that they shouldn't be flung around!



EXACTLY!!



A quotation from the transcript of the show:





Oprah Winfrey: "Can I touch them? Am I allowed to touch them?"



Dr. Glass: "No, you're not allowed to touch them. But if you, you uh-"



Oprah Winfrey: "So glad I asked. I saw everyone with gloves on - you

have to touch them with gloves on, right?"



[Oprah picks up gloves]



Dr. Glass: "Uh, well, yeah, I don't even touch them with gloves on.

but, well, uh-"



Oprah Winfrey: "I just want to touch them."



---------------------------

Oprah is being a bossy celebrity and using her media skills to

bulldoze over a curator who is out of his league. I'm sure he was

nervous being on national TV next to a big star and tried to steer her

away from touching them as best as he could. But geez woman, if the

curator who flew the objects to your studio in a special box with

armed guards says "No," ya think he has a reason?



I think in situations like this, museums should have speciality

trained "media curators" who have experience speaking on camera and

dealing with celebrities. It takes a special skill to tactfully put

your foot down when it comes to handling your objects as well as the

ability to think on your feet and disarm celebrities who want to touch

objects or play around with them while on the air. They also need the

authority to say "I'm sorry but you either broke our conditions or did

not meet them for having our objects on your show and therefore we

will not allow you show them on the air." You also need a good PR

department to spin that in your favor.



No media coverage is worth endangering or damaging priceless objects

nor should curators have to put up with media celebs who think they

can play around with national treasures just because they have gloves

on. I didn't have much respect for Oprah before and I certainly don't

have any respect for her now.



Deb



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I have been asked by two family members and several colleagues (I am a museum guy working in a library, so they come to me with museum questions) about the incident. Sample questions: how did this happen? Why the the Smithsonian let it happen?, Does Oprah have to pay for damages? etc. So while I agree that none of us were flies on the wall, none of us can accurately judge the preparations of the NMAH and their staff since we weren't there, and none of us know what exactly Oprah was thinking, that does not change the fact that many of us will be asked to respond. I guess I was hoping to get the pulse of the profession about a VERY public incident. I think the responses have been interesting and varied, leaning towards preparing those who are going to interact with our collections in such a way as to not put the items at risk. My response to family and colleagues would be thus: "Hopefully the Smithsonian was able to prepare Oprah for the delicate nature of the materials she was about to view, however many people, when given the opportunity to come in direct contact with such cultural touchstones let their excitement overwhelm them. I am sure the folks at the NMAH will evaluate the event and see if all was done to safeguard the artifacts." Thank goodness it was Dr. Glass and the Ruby Slippers, not Jack Hanna and a Tiger! Kevin Pete Lundskow wrote: > An interesting side note to this is the slippers may or may not have been > worn by Judy Garland. In the link mentioned in the first posting on this > subject there is mention of a book by Rhys Thomas "The Ruby slippers of Oz". > In this book there is a note that states there is no actually proof that she > did ware the Smithsonian pair. The question being does the Smithsonian have > the documentation to prove she wore this pair? If not this brings up the > other issue that often comes up in our profession about claiming things that > are not so, the "George Washington Slept Here" syndrome. > My two cents on the issue is I agree with an earlier comment about having > them in a sealed Plexiglas box could have avoided the whole issue. > > Peter Lundskow > > -----Original Message----- > From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf > Of Deb Fuller > Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 12:48 PM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [MUSEUM-L] The Ruby Slipper incident > > On Jan 24, 2008 2:20 PM, Karen Eckhaus <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> My take on it... >> >> After the care taken to transport them, being told what delicate shape >> they're in and being asked to put on curatorial gloves, Oprah SHOULD have >> had the sense to know that they shouldn't be flung around! >> > > EXACTLY!! > > A quotation from the transcript of the show: > > > Oprah Winfrey: "Can I touch them? Am I allowed to touch them?" > > Dr. Glass: "No, you're not allowed to touch them. But if you, you uh-" > > Oprah Winfrey: "So glad I asked. I saw everyone with gloves on - you > have to touch them with gloves on, right?" > > [Oprah picks up gloves] > > Dr. Glass: "Uh, well, yeah, I don't even touch them with gloves on. > but, well, uh-" > > Oprah Winfrey: "I just want to touch them." > > --------------------------- > Oprah is being a bossy celebrity and using her media skills to > bulldoze over a curator who is out of his league. I'm sure he was > nervous being on national TV next to a big star and tried to steer her > away from touching them as best as he could. But geez woman, if the > curator who flew the objects to your studio in a special box with > armed guards says "No," ya think he has a reason? > > I think in situations like this, museums should have speciality > trained "media curators" who have experience speaking on camera and > dealing with celebrities. It takes a special skill to tactfully put > your foot down when it comes to handling your objects as well as the > ability to think on your feet and disarm celebrities who want to touch > objects or play around with them while on the air. They also need the > authority to say "I'm sorry but you either broke our conditions or did > not meet them for having our objects on your show and therefore we > will not allow you show them on the air." You also need a good PR > department to spin that in your favor. > > No media coverage is worth endangering or damaging priceless objects > nor should curators have to put up with media celebs who think they > can play around with national treasures just because they have gloves > on. I didn't have much respect for Oprah before and I certainly don't > have any respect for her now. > > Deb > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message > to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" > (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff > Museum-L" (without the quotes). > > > > -- Kevin P. 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:06:45 -0700 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Emily Brown <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The Ruby Slipper incident In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Well, at least she didn't put them on her feet. Emily Emily L. Brown Catalog Librarian Western History/Genealogy Denver Public Library Denver, Colorado, USA [log in to unmask] ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 15:16:38 -0600 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Pat Miller <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: The Ruby Slipper incident In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Yes, I had a volunteer once who did that. They weren't the Ruby Slippers, but nonetheless, gave me a heart attack. She did it when I was elsewhere and then said she "couldn't resist it." Sigh. Pat Miller Emily Brown wrote: > Well, at least she didn't put them on her feet. > > Emily > > Emily L. 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The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:52:10 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Gayle <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Ruby Slippers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1676664375-1201211530=:78131" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit --0-1676664375-1201211530=:78131 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit A couple of points of clarification. 1. I've seen the ruby slippers a couple of times when they were on display for the Smithsonian's 150th roving celebration (saw them in 5 cities). It was cool to see them, but they weren't all that sparkly. 2. Part of that is that there was more than one pair of ruby slippers. Wiki is reporting 7, which sort of matches my memory of the story I saw not long ago either in a news article or a tv show (History Channel, maybe). They had to have shoes for Judy and her double. There were several different designs tried before they finally came up with the ones in the movie. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_slippers http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/hills/6396/rubyslip.htm http://www.beyondtherainbow2oz.com/slipperstory.html They look better in the light than they did on display: http://www.150.si.edu/150trav/remember/r1118.htm 3. Oprah is Oprah. Sometimes she's got it together. Sometimes she is simply classless. ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:50:09 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Helen Alten <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Organic and Inorganic materials course online in February - Please distribute Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_731092984==.ALT" --=====================_731092984==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed MS213: Museum Artifacts: How they were made and how they deteriorate Instructor: Helen Alten Dates: February 4 through March 14, 2008 Price: $425 Location: www.museumclasses.org Description: Every museum object is unique, but items made of similar materials share characteristics. Museum Artifacts gives participants an understanding of the materials and processes used to make objects knowledge that better prepares them to decide how to care for their collections. Participants study two objects that represent all materials found in our museums. Through an in-depth analysis of their components, participants explore all possible objects found in any museum. Course Outline 1. Introduction 2. Organic Object: Aleut Hunting Regalia 3. Plant Materials 4. Animal Materials 5. Modified Organics 6. Inorganic Object: Art Deco Fireplace 7. Stone 8. Ceramic 9. Glass 10. Metal 11. Mixed Media 12. Conclusion Logistics Participants in Museum Artifacts work through 12 sections on their own. Instructor Helen Alten is available for scheduled email support. Materials and resources include online literature, slide lectures and dialog between students and online chats led by the instructor. The course is limited to 20 participants. Museum Artifacts runs six weeks. Please enroll at www.museumclasses.org and pay for the course at http://www.collectioncare.org/tas/tas.html. If you have trouble completing an on-line order, please contact Helen Alten at [log in to unmask] Text Books Gilroy, David and Godfrey, Ian, eds. A Practical Guide to the Conservation and Care of Collections. Western Australia Museum. 1998 (out of print) Demeroukas, Marie, ed. Basic Condition Reporting: A Handbook. Southeastern Registrars Association, 1998. Available for purchase from Northern States Conservation Center at http://www.collectioncare.org/tas/tas.html. Student Comments All created and selected materials were very informative and flowed together. I like the power point slides. It's like note taking for me, summarizing the lecture. After the course I always go back and read various sections again. They are excellent reference materials. Classmates from all over the world made it interesting for our assignments. Always enjoy instructor involvement for the professional input and advice. The downloadable manual and materials were excellent. The course content was very thorough. The syllabus set up access online was very good, listed clearly. The chats were great, and the calls/prompts to participate were very much appreciated. I liked the readings a lot because I knew they were hand selected by the instructor and therefore were the most accurate and relevant materials for the course. The interaction with other participants, sharing their experiences and their knowledge was eye opening. As we have different collections, different problems we might come across and different areas of experience, we can definitely learn from each other. The Instructor Helen Alten is an objects conservator and owner of Northern States Conservation Center, St. Paul, Minnesota. She has been an educator, conservator and trainer since 1986. Ms. Alten received her master's degree in archaeological conservation and materials science at the Institute of Archaeology, University of London in 1986. She began working with small, rural, and tribal museums as conservator for Montana and Alaska. ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --=====================_731092984==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" MS213: Museum Artifacts: How they were made and how they deteriorate
Instructor: Helen Alten
Dates:  February 4 through March 14, 2008
Price: $425
Location:  www.museumclasses.org

Description:
Every museum object is unique, but items made of similar materials share characteristics. Museum Artifacts gives participants an understanding of the materials and processes used to make objects  knowledge that better prepares them to decide how to care for their collections. Participants study two objects that represent all materials found in our museums. Through an in-depth analysis of their components, participants explore all possible objects found in any museum.

Course Outline
1.      Introduction
2.      Organic Object:  Aleut Hunting Regalia
3.      Plant Materials
4.      Animal Materials
5.      Modified Organics
6.      Inorganic Object: Art Deco Fireplace
7.      Stone
8.      Ceramic
9.      Glass
10.     Metal
11.     Mixed Media
12.     Conclusion

Logistics
Participants in Museum Artifacts work through 12 sections on their own. Instructor Helen Alten is available for scheduled email support. Materials and resources include online literature, slide lectures and dialog between students and online chats led by the instructor. The course is limited to 20 participants.

Museum Artifacts runs six weeks. Please enroll at www.museumclasses.org and pay for the course at http://www.collectioncare.org/tas/tas.html. If you have trouble completing an on-line order, please contact Helen Alten at [log in to unmask]

Text Books
Gilroy, David and Godfrey, Ian, eds.  A Practical Guide to the Conservation and Care of Collections.  Western Australia Museum.  1998 (out of print)

Demeroukas, Marie, ed.  Basic Condition Reporting:  A Handbook.  Southeastern Registrars Association, 1998.

Available for purchase from Northern States Conservation Center at http://www.collectioncare.org/tas/tas.html .

Student Comments
All created and selected materials were very informative and flowed together.  I like the power point slides.  It’s like note taking for me, summarizing the lecture. After the course I always go back and read various sections again.  They are excellent reference materials.

Classmates from all over the world made it interesting for our assignments.

Always enjoy instructor involvement for the professional input and advice.

The downloadable manual and materials were excellent.  The course content was very thorough.  The syllabus set up access online was very good, listed clearly.  The chats were great, and the calls/prompts to participate were very much appreciated.

I liked the readings a lot because I knew they were hand selected by the instructor and therefore were the most accurate and relevant materials for the course.

The interaction with other participants, sharing their experiences and their knowledge was eye opening. As we have different collections, different problems we might come across and different areas of experience, we can definitely learn from each other.

The Instructor
Helen Alten is an objects conservator and owner of Northern States Conservation Center, St. Paul, Minnesota. She has been an educator, conservator and trainer since 1986. Ms. Alten received her master’s degree in archaeological conservation and materials science at the Institute of Archaeology, University of London in 1986. She began working with small, rural, and tribal museums as conservator for Montana and Alaska.
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These include the fact that many items are not brought to the museum by the legal owner, if gives us immediate tracking of the object not matter its outcome (loan, gift, rejected, etc.), allows us to create a form both away and at the office that is handwritten and not the final form which are all typed, always other staff to work on behalf when I'm not there, and all loan agreements and deeds of gift must be signed by the Director who is not always there. for the museum must to signed by the Director and sometimes the City Manager who is often not at the meeting with the donor/lender or agent. I also often prefer to have the time to type up the deed of gift/loan agreements when the donor/lender/agent is not looking over my shoulder. Also, the receipt form indicates the intention of the lender/donor at the time they come into the museum. If for any reason, a loan agreement or deed of gift is not completed then that gives museum a legal leg to stand off if we need it. In the case of loans that are terminated, we have a special return receipt that we use. This form written by legal acknowledges the condition of the object at the time of pickup, immediately waives our liability and transfers possession back to the legal owner. I personally prefer this method to writing on our loan agreement when they are returned. If you write on the loan agreement, you usually only have one copy and must photocopy the original document to give to the lender since you need a copy with both legal signatures on it. (not a photocopy) Additionally, it allows us a way to deal with unusual circumstances. In all cases, we create two (or more copies if needed) of receipts, deeds of gifts, loan agreements, return receipts so that we and the donor/lender/agent gets a copy at the time the object comes into the museum or leaves the museum. If you have any questions please feel free to contact me. Sincerely, Tracie Evans Collections Manager Texas Ranger Hall of Fame and Museum PO Box 2570, Waco, TX 76706 [log in to unmask] 254/750-8631 -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of George Harris Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:59 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Returning Loans question I am wondering if there is any musum out there that uses recipts when they borrow objects from individuals. What I mean is that when the objects are brought in to the museum the lender gets a recipt (not just a copy of the loan form) and then when the loan period is over they have to bring the recipt back to get their object(s) back. The way I understand it is that there is a loan form signed and then there is a section at the bottom where the lender signs when they come back to get the object to say that they have recieved it. This way the lender does not need to bring anything back to the museum when they come back. 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:37:32 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "Madewell, Steven" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Vacancy Announcement, Science Education MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C85F5F.D1FDF5D0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C85F5F.D1FDF5D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Science Education Program Specialist Science Teacher Professional Development Salary Range: $47,647 to $61,946 Full-time Renewable on an annual basis National Science Resources Center (An equal opportunity employer) Introduction This position is located in Washington, DC at the National Science Resources Center (NSRC), operated by the Smithsonian Institution, with joint programmatic oversight by the Smithsonian and the National Academies, which is comprised of the National Academy of Sciences, the National Academy of Engineering, the Institute of Medicine, and the National Research Council. The NSRC's mission is to improve the learning and teaching of science in the nation's schools. The NSRC collects and disseminates research-based science curriculum materials and information about exemplary science teaching resources, and uses current research and best practices to help school systems improve K-12 science education. The selected candidate will work as a member of a small versatile team at the Professional Development Center (PDC) of the NSRC to assist in organizing and implementing science teacher professional development . The PDC organizes courses that model and promote high quality, inquiry-based science education for K-12 teachers and teacher leaders. Qualifications and Experience Required: * Experience teaching hands-on, inquiry science for 3 or more years in K-12 education * Bachelors degree in science or a specialty in science education * Competency with computers and computer applications, such as Microsoft Office programs. Preferred: * Familiarity with the STC and STC/MS curriculum materials * Masters in Education or science education related area. * Experience implementing science teacher professional development programs * Administration and editorial experience CONDITION OF EMPLOYMENT: Appointment may be subject to the applicant's successful completion of a pre-appointment background check and subsequent background investigation. If you make a false statement in any part of your application, you may not be hired and/or you may be terminated after you begin work. Major Duties I. Program Development, Planning, and Organization: 50% These duties include: * The planning and development of the short and long-term goals of the PDC and the coordination of these goals with other units of the NSRC and the parent institutions, the Smithsonian Institution and National Academies. * Organization and implementation of the current professional development programs of the PDC, as well as the planning of new products and services * Working closely with curators and staff from the NSRC, the Smithsonian Institution museums, and other corporate and university partners, to plan and organize professional development events for science teachers and teacher leaders. * Developing curriculum materials that relate to the professional development of science teachers. * Working with curriculum developers to develop courses that support NSRC STC and STC/MS curriculum materials. * Organizing conference and symposia programs. * Locating and organizing venues at hotels, universities, and schools. This may include organizing accommodation and catering. II. Administration and Management: 35% Support the day-to-day administration of the PDC, including: * Developing and producing short publications and brochures that advertise and support the work of the PDC * Handling registration of course participants * The acquisition and purchasing of materials for professional development events * The printing and assembly of event materials * Working with PDC and other NSRC staff to develop proposals for grants and gifts to support the work of the PDC * Managing a cadre of presenters * Gathering evaluation data * Writing and editing reports to sponsors and the NSRC's parent organizations * Attending and contributing to meetings on behalf of the PDC. * Other duties as assigned III. Making Presentations and Conducting Courses: 15% The successful candidate will be expected to travel to venues nationwide and conduct workshops and presentations to audiences that include leaders in education, district science specialists and classroom teachers. These presentations may include: * Extended workshops that promote and support users of the STC curriculum * Training of a cadre of presenters * Representing the PDC and the NSRC at conferences and functions Factor 1-Knowledge Required The successful candidate will have: * Expert knowledge of the nature of K-12 science education and how it is conducted in the classroom. This includes knowledge of the types of activities that generally take place in classrooms and the typical pressures that affect science teachers and the teaching of science. * Knowledge of the National Science Education Standards, the nature of state standards and of projects involved in establishing standards for K-12 science education (for example Project 2061 from AAAS) * Knowledge of best and promising practices in K-12 science education * Experiential knowledge of the nature of "Inquiry Science" and the nature of high quality curriculum materials (such as STC, FOSS or SEPUP) that facilitate the teaching of inquiry science. An understanding of how these are implemented in the classroom is essential. * Knowledge of the variety of professional development experiences available to science teachers and current research as it is applicable to these experiences. * Knowledge of management processes, which includes the ability to keep abreast of administrative details so as to be able to develop improvements in operations to meet changing conditions and promote the effective functioning of the PDC. * Knowledge of and extensive experience in using computer software applications, including word-processing, spreadsheet, database, electronic mail, and graphics applications * Knowledge of NSRC goals and objectives as an organization of the Smithsonian Institution and the National Academies, as outlined in the NSRC mission statement * Knowledge and experience in planning and organizing programs and events * Ability to present and teach, with confidence and effectiveness, to a wide variety of audiences at venues including workshops and conferences * Ability to plan, organize, and direct the work of a staff and consultants, working under the challenges of multiple projects and short deadlines. * Ability to interact and negotiate diplomatically, effectively, and on a sustained basis with Smithsonian Institution staff members, donors, sponsors, registrants and NSRC Advisory Board members. * Ability to communicate orally and in writing to present and defend programs, present (?) recommendations and convince others to implement them Factor 2-Supervisory Controls The selected candidate reports to the Director of the PDC, but is expected to independently carry out responsibilities with wide latitude for independent judgment and initiative. Projects are often self-generated, based upon incumbent's ideas, expertise and understanding of the mission, goals and objectives of the NSRC. Factor 3-Guidelines Guidelines consist of general financial and administrative policies, such as Federal law and regulations, Smithsonian policies and procedures, NSRC memoranda, manuals, directives and established broad policies. Other guidelines may include such items as management and organizational theories. Incumbent must use extensive judgment in applying, interpreting and adapting these guidelines to NSRC needs. Incumbent is expected to use own initiative and knowledge of financial and management principles to resolve or determine particular courses of action. Factor 4-Complexity The work of the NSRC is complex because of large-scale national projects requiring multiples sources of funding, projects operating on timelines different from the fiscal year of the Smithsonian, and reporting requirements to both the Institution and multiple sponsors. The incumbent will be required to manage complex situations with a high level of independence and confidence, often under conditions of pressure, e.g.,short deadlines where accuracy is imperative. Factor 5-Scope and Effect The purpose of the work is to work with members of the PDC team to plan, facilitate, and conduct the PDC's program. This includes working on any aspect of this program that furthers the mission of the PDC, the NSRC, and the Smithsonian and National Academies. Because of the NSRC's broad outreach program, the work often contributes to the effectiveness of many other educational institutions throughout the country that are active partners in NSRC programs. Factors 6 & 7-Personal Contacts and Purpose of Contacts Persons contracted regularly include staff of the NSRC, Smithsonian Institution, and National Academies, as well as contractors, representatives from sponsoring and partner organizations, customers, event registrants, and NSRC Advisory Board members Factor 8-Physical Demands The successful candidate must be able to work in a fast-paced environment and must be able to multi-task-juggling diverse and multiple projects with varying deadlines. He/she will be required to at NSRC events as required. This may include physical work such as driving, carrying, packing and assembling, and disassembling materials Work will require occasional evening and/or weekend duty. Factor 9-Work Environment Work is performed both in an office setting and at event venues. Travel is required. International travel may be required. Benefits A comprehensive package of benefits is available. 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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------_=_NextPart_001_01C85F5F.D1FDF5D0-- ========================================================================Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:48:05 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: HHSDIRECTOR <[log in to unmask]> Subject: 1% openness MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003A_01C85F37.629C0050" This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C85F37.629C0050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I guess this question is directed at conservators and collections managers on the listserve: I'm searching for Solarveil-type blinds for our institution. Unfortunately, the manufacturer of Solarveil fabric has gone out of business. One blind manufacturer I spoke with said I can get the same effect (allowing some visible light in, but blocking most UV light) by using any material with "1% openness". My questions are: Is this accurate? And assuming it's a description of weave density, how the heck do I gauge "openness? Is there another manufacturer of solarveil-type fabric that I should be contacting? Thanks, --suzanne Buchanan Suzanne Buchanan, Director Hingham Historical Society P.O. Box 434 Hingham, MA 02043 Phone: 781-749-7721 Fax: 781-749-0091 http://www.hinghamhistorical.org/ ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C85F37.629C0050 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------=_NextPart_000_003A_01C85F37.629C0050-- ========================================================================Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:17:03 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Marc A Williams <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: 1% openness In-Reply-To: <003901c85f61$4b720850$e25618f0$@NET> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C85F43.CFBB1110" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C85F43.CFBB1110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm not personally familiar with the terms, but assuming you are right and it refers to weave density, you can test with a light meter. Measure a light source, note the reading, then place the fabric over the light source and measure again. The second reading should be 1% of the first. Distance from the light source to the light meter must be exactly the same for both readings, as light intensity varies with the square of the distance, so a small variation can make a big difference. I suggest the sun (clear, no clouds or haze) since a variation of a few inches or feet is insignificant compared to the millions of miles to the light source! Using such a fabric for light control will mean that the intensity has been dropped 99% (1% transmission), but the transmitted light will still have all of its UV present. However, I doubt that you will actually use a fabric with a 1% transmission, as the room will be very dark. I have trouble convincing clients to go even as low as 10% transmission for this reason. You may be better served with UV and visible light filtering Mylar, but I'm sure you have already considered this. Good luck! Marc American Conservation Consortium, Ltd. 4 Rockville Road Broad Brook, CT 06016 www.conservator.com 860-386-6058 *Collections Preservation Consultation *Conservation Assessments & Surveys *Environmental Monitoring & Low-Tech Control *Moisture Management Solutions *Collections in Historic Structures *Collections Care Grant Preparation *Conservation Treatment of: Furniture Painted Wood Horse-Drawn Vehicles Architectural Interiors Marc A. Williams, President MS in Art Conservation, Winterthur Museum Program Former Chief Wooden Object Conservator, Smithsonian Institution Fellow, American Institute for Conservation (AIC) -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of HHSDIRECTOR Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 9:48 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MUSEUM-L] 1% openness I guess this question is directed at conservators and collections managers on the listserve: I'm searching for Solarveil-type blinds for our institution. Unfortunately, the manufacturer of Solarveil fabric has gone out of business. One blind manufacturer I spoke with said I can get the same effect (allowing some visible light in, but blocking most UV light) by using any material with "1% openness". My questions are: Is this accurate? And assuming it's a description of weave density, how the heck do I gauge "openness? Is there another manufacturer of solarveil-type fabric that I should be contacting? Thanks, --suzanne Buchanan Suzanne Buchanan, Director Hingham Historical Society P.O. Box 434 Hingham, MA 02043 Phone: 781-749-7721 Fax: 781-749-0091 http://www.hinghamhistorical.org/ ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C85F43.CFBB1110 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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I guess this question is directed at conservators and collections managers on the listserve: I’m searching for Solarveil-type blinds for our institution. Unfortunately, the manufacturer of Solarveil fabric has gone out of business. One blind manufacturer I spoke with said I can get the same effect (allowing some visible light in, but blocking most UV light) by using any material with “1% openness”. My questions are: Is this accurate? And assuming it’s a description of weave density, how the heck do I gauge “openness? Is there another manufacturer of solarveil-type fabric that I should be contacting?

 

Thanks,

 

--suzanne Buchanan

 

Suzanne Buchanan, Director

Hingham Historical Society

P.O. Box 434

Hingham, MA 02043

Phone: 781-749-7721

Fax: 781-749-0091

http://www.hinghamhistorical.org/

 

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These items are free but the receiving museum would need to either pick up or pay shipping costs.
 
Both of the adding machines were used in a textile mill located in Charlotte, North Carolina.
 
One is black and attached to a wheeled stand with a folding side table. It is hand cranked and manufactured by Dalton. Circa 1925. Serial number 35319.
 
The second adding machine is the Olivetti Underwood Electrosumma Duplex 24-CR. This model is electric. The machine itself is green the stand attached is yellow metal with a folding side table. The machine still has date changer attached. Circa 1965.
 
The sewing machine is a yellow singer sewing machine with black cast iron legs and foot pedal. The machine folds down into the top with a flip top which covers the machine when folded. The machine has four small side drawers. Circa 1895.
 
If you are interested, please contact Aimee Russell at:
704-922-7681 x104
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Tracie ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . 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Right now the AACHM is keeping a running list of about 130 members in a word document. They're interested in streamlining this list, and having a format which could easily export data to create mailing labels, or email lists, as the need arose. They're hoping for a large membership increase as they develop procedures for recruiting and maintaining members in coming years. What are their options for easy-to-use, inexpensive membership databases? I've talked to some small organizations which just use excel sheets... what about File Maker or some other program? What do you all use and what is working? Thanks so much for the help (I hope this hasn't been asked a million times), Helen Dixon PhD Student: Dept. of Near Eastern Studies Certificate Student: Museum Studies University of Michigan, Ann Arbor ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-37--348234860 --Apple-Mail-37--348234860 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Helen, Our organization uses ebase - a free software that was originally developed as a fundraising software, but we just use it for membership. Its easy to use, and the price is right. We maintain over 2,000 contacts using ebase, and there is obviously room for us to grow and use the database in new ways as we do. For more info about ebase, visit www.ebase.org. Jenny Jenny Rosenzweig Program Coordinator Upstate History Alliance 11 Ford Avenue Oneonta, NY 13820 800.895.1648 [log in to unmask] On Jan 25, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Helen Dixon wrote: > Hello all- > > I am a museum studies graduate student at the University of Michigan, > Ann Arbor, and only recently joined your unbelievable discussion list. > Currently I'm working with the African American Cultural and > Historical Museum of Washtenaw County as a final project, making some > infrastructure recommendations for their all-volunteer operation. > > Right now the AACHM is keeping a running list of about 130 members in > a word document. They're interested in streamlining this list, and > having a format which could easily export data to create mailing > labels, or email lists, as the need arose. They're hoping for a large > membership increase as they develop procedures for recruiting and > maintaining members in coming years. > > What are their options for easy-to-use, inexpensive membership > databases? I've talked to some small organizations which just use > excel sheets... what about File Maker or some other program? What do > you all use and what is working? > > Thanks so much for the help (I hope this hasn't been asked a > million times), > > Helen Dixon > PhD Student: Dept. of Near Eastern Studies > Certificate Student: Museum Studies > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/ > museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the > listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . 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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --Apple-Mail-9--348442791-- ========================================================================Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:33:52 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Jessica Neuwirth <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Natural History object marking question In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2526_28582810.1201293232173" ------=_Part_2526_28582810.1201293232173 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Best practice for archaeology collections, along with decorative arts collections that I've worked on in Maryland, Massachusetts and Virginia would be to put a barrier of B-72 down, write the number with actinic ink or something similar and then coat with B-72...this way, indeed the numbering is reversible...marking directly on the object will allow the ink to settle into the object surface...the only think I might mark without B-72 would be glass... Jessica Neuwirth On Jan 25, 2008 3:17 PM, George Harris <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hello, > I am wondering what the best practice way to mark an object number on a > horn or bone is. Our museum has a large natural history collection as > well as local history and ethongraphic collections. We primarily are not > a reserch institution, instead we focus on education. Many of our > collections, including the much of natural history collections, was given > to the museum by the museum's founder. There is a difference of opinion > among staff on this subject. One person says that it is alright to > permanently mark object identification numbers directly with permanent ink > on horn and bone objects and cites another museum where she works. > Someone else says that according to museum best practice standards a > barrier of B-72 or B-76 must be put down first to make it reversable and > protect the objects. The object numbers in question are not collector > numbers, site numbers, or refering to anything before the objects came to > the museum. They are numbers assigned by the museum to help keep track of > the objects. They do not even refer uniquely to the single object, they > are numbers that were given in the past that refer to the species. An > accession number is going to be assigned in the near future that will also > need to be put on the object. There also are no holes or areas where a > tag can easily be affixed. > > Thanks. > > Beau Harris > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message > to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > > ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------=_Part_2526_28582810.1201293232173 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------=_Part_2526_28582810.1201293232173-- ========================================================================Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:20:24 -0600 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: "O'malley, Erin" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Membership Database Options? In-Reply-To: A<[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Past Perfect always a good program to use, though it's not free. It has a membership feature and it is very user friendly, which is great for volunteers. Erin O'Malley UTA -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Helen Dixon Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 3:33 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Membership Database Options? Hello all- I am a museum studies graduate student at the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, and only recently joined your unbelievable discussion list. Currently I'm working with the African American Cultural and Historical Museum of Washtenaw County as a final project, making some infrastructure recommendations for their all-volunteer operation. Right now the AACHM is keeping a running list of about 130 members in a word document. They're interested in streamlining this list, and having a format which could easily export data to create mailing labels, or email lists, as the need arose. They're hoping for a large membership increase as they develop procedures for recruiting and maintaining members in coming years. What are their options for easy-to-use, inexpensive membership databases? I've talked to some small organizations which just use excel sheets... what about File Maker or some other program? What do you all use and what is working? Thanks so much for the help (I hope this hasn't been asked a million times), Helen Dixon PhD Student: Dept. of Near Eastern Studies Certificate Student: Museum Studies University of Michigan, Ann Arbor ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:15:19 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: George Harris <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Natural History object marking question In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable How would you then mark glass so that it is reversible? Thanks. Beau Harris > Best practice for archaeology collections, along with decorative arts > collections that I've worked on in Maryland, Massachusetts and Virginia > would be to put a barrier of B-72 down, write the number with actinic ink > or > something similar and then coat with B-72...this way, indeed the numbering > is reversible...marking directly on the object will allow the ink to > settle > into the object surface...the only think I might mark without B-72 would > be > glass... > Jessica Neuwirth > > > > > On Jan 25, 2008 3:17 PM, George Harris <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Hello, >> I am wondering what the best practice way to mark an object number on a >> horn or bone is. Our museum has a large natural history collection as >> well as local history and ethongraphic collections. We primarily are >> not >> a reserch institution, instead we focus on education. Many of our >> collections, including the much of natural history collections, was >> given >> to the museum by the museum's founder. There is a difference of opinion >> among staff on this subject. One person says that it is alright to >> permanently mark object identification numbers directly with permanent >> ink >> on horn and bone objects and cites another museum where she works. >> Someone else says that according to museum best practice standards a >> barrier of B-72 or B-76 must be put down first to make it reversable and >> protect the objects. The object numbers in question are not collector >> numbers, site numbers, or refering to anything before the objects came >> to >> the museum. They are numbers assigned by the museum to help keep track >> of >> the objects. They do not even refer uniquely to the single object, they >> are numbers that were given in the past that refer to the species. An >> accession number is going to be assigned in the near future that will >> also >> need to be put on the object. There also are no holes or areas where a >> tag can easily be affixed. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Beau Harris >> >> ========================================================= >> Important Subscriber Information: >> >> The Museum-L FAQ file is located at >> http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed >> information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail >> message >> to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read >> "help" (without the quotes). >> >> If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message >> to >> [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read >> "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). >> >> > > ========================================================= > Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail > message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should > read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:34:03 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: David Lynx <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Membership Database Options? In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit We use Filemaker for our membership database, and for all our other databases. You can look into non-profit prices for Filemaker. eBase was developed using Filemaker. On 1/25/08 1:33 PM, "Helen Dixon" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hello all- > > I am a museum studies graduate student at the University of Michigan, > Ann Arbor, and only recently joined your unbelievable discussion list. > Currently I'm working with the African American Cultural and > Historical Museum of Washtenaw County as a final project, making some > infrastructure recommendations for their all-volunteer operation. > > Right now the AACHM is keeping a running list of about 130 members in > a word document. They're interested in streamlining this list, and > having a format which could easily export data to create mailing > labels, or email lists, as the need arose. They're hoping for a large > membership increase as they develop procedures for recruiting and > maintaining members in coming years. > > What are their options for easy-to-use, inexpensive membership > databases? I've talked to some small organizations which just use > excel sheets... what about File Maker or some other program? What do > you all use and what is working? > > Thanks so much for the help (I hope this hasn't been asked a million times), > > Helen Dixon > PhD Student: Dept. of Near Eastern Studies > Certificate Student: Museum Studies > University of Michigan, Ann Arbor > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ > . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a > one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the > message should read "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff > Museum-L" (without the quotes). > --------------------------------------------- David Lynx, Curator of Education & Technology Yakima Valley Museum (509)248-0747 www.yakimavalleymuseum.org ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:46:08 -0500 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Jeannine Mjoseth <[log in to unmask]> Subject: IMLS Accepting Applications for Native American/Native Hawaiian Museum Services Grants MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The following is a text-only press release from the federal Institute of Museum and Library Services (IMLS). An HTML version of this release can be read on the agency's Web site at http://www.imls.gov/news/2008/012508.shtm. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE January 25, 2008 IMLS Press Contacts 202-653-4632 Jeannine Mjoseth, [log in to unmask] Mamie Bittner, [log in to unmask] IMLS Accepting Applications for Native American/Native Hawaiian Museum Services Grants Application Deadline: April 1, 2008 WASHINGTON, DC-The Institute of Museum and Library Services (IMLS) is accepting grant applications to the Native American/Native Hawaiian (NANH) Museum Services program. NANH promotes enhanced learning and innovation within museums and museum-related organizations, such as cultural centers. The program provides opportunities for Native American tribes and Native Hawaiian organizations to sustain heritage, culture, and knowledge through strengthened museum services in the areas of programming, professional development, and enhancement of museum services. Projects will benefit their communities and audiences by connecting people to ideas, information, and learning experiences. Grant funding ranges from $5,000-$50,000, and is available under the following three categories: Programming: Services and activities that support the educational mission of museums and museum-related organizations. Professional development: Education or training that builds skills, knowledge, or other professional capacity for staff-either paid or volunteer-who provide or manage museum service activities. Enhancement of museum services: Support for activities that enable and improve museum services. Applicants must apply online through Grants.gov. Awards will be announced in September 2008. For more information, including guidelines and the application, go to: www.imls.gov/applicants/grants/nativeServices.shtm. IMLS has scheduled an audio-conference call to give prospective applicants an opportunity to ask IMLS staff questions pertaining to the Native American/Native Hawaiian Museum Services program. Participants will need the information below to participate: Date: Wednesday, February 27 Time: 3:00 PM EST Participant Dial-In Number: 800-603-9527 Conference ID: 25779593 Applicants are encouraged to contact program staff with their questions: Sandra Narva, Senior Program Officer Phone: 202/653-4634 E-mail: [log in to unmask] Reagan Furrow, Program Specialist Phone: 202/653-4637 E-mail: [log in to unmask] Robert Trio, Program Specialist Phone: 202/653-4689 E-mail: [log in to unmask] About the Institute of Museum and Library Services The Institute of Museum and Library Services is the primary source of federal support for the nation's 122,000 libraries and 17,500 museums. The Institute's mission is to create strong libraries and museums that connect people to information and ideas. 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================================Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 12:05:15 +0200 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: omar rooksana <[log in to unmask]> Subject: sending mail to the list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17915_32022942.1201255515677" ------=_Part_17915_32022942.1201255515677 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dear Museum-L Subscribers, *Customer Care Charter* The Luthuli Museum is a new National Museum in Groutville, KwaDukuza, South Africa. This museum is a legacy project which is dedicated to a leader of the South African Liberation movement and the first African recepient of the Nobel Peace Prize. As this is a new museum located within a community we would like to ensure that we get our operational processes right.The museum has recently appointed a Marketing Officer and is in the process of drawing up a Customer Care Charter. Does any of the museums that subscribe to Museum-L have a Customer Care Charter that they are prepared to share with the Luthuli Museum? Presently we have drawn excellent examples from the Corporate Sector. However, we want to see how other museums prepare their staff to deal with visitors. I look forward to seeing what has been produced and to be informed about how the Charter has improved service delivery to visitors. I also welcome discussion about what your views are about having a Charter. 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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------=_Part_17915_32022942.1201255515677-- ========================================================================Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 06:29:26 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: David Harvey <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Gun Restorer In-Reply-To: <00ce01c85f06$937ec3a0$ba7c4ae0$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3725_7725259.1201357766675" ------=_Part_3725_7725259.1201357766675 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Tracie, I have many years of experience in the conservation of historic arms. There are only probably just a few conservators in the USA who have specialized deeply in this. I would advise your client to be wary of using a gunsmith / restorer in the treatment of an historic firearm because their approaches and materials and ideology are not specifically tuned to long-term preservation issues - they are oriented towards getting firearms into working condition. Of course, much depends on the specifics of the history and condition of the firearm as well as its value. And that value, both historic and monetary, can be ruined by an over aggressive restoration. People in my profession of conservation have a constant flow of work in dealing with issues of prior restorations. I think that others on this list have seen or heard of similar results from furniture or fine arts conservation done by restorers whose hearts may have been in the right place but who methods and materials did not serve the integrity nor the longevity of the object. Cheers! Dave David Harvey Conservator Los Angeles, CA On Jan 24, 2008 7:58 PM, Tracie Evans <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > We have a patron who has asked for a reference for a local/regional gun > restorer. We don't have any current contacts since that is not something > we > do. Does anyone have any suggests in the Central Texas area or anywhere > in > or near Texas? She has already been advised to the issues with firearms > restoration and still wants to continue this process. > > Tracie Evans > Collections Manager > Texas Ranger Hall of Fame and Museum > PO Box 2570, Waco, TX 76706 > 254/750-8631 > > > ========================================================> Important Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message > to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > > ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------=_Part_3725_7725259.1201357766675 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Tracie,

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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------=_Part_3725_7725259.1201357766675-- ========================================================================Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 06:37:41 -0800 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: David Harvey <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Non-abrasive copper cleaner In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3763_23224537.1201358261913" ------=_Part_3763_23224537.1201358261913 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Barbara, Almost all commercial cooper cleaners are abrasive - and what you use depends on the specifics of the object - is there an historic patina to consider and preserve? Is it brightly polished or a cast surface? Does it have active corrosion or is stable? Also you have to be very mindful that polish accretions that are not removed will become areas of discoloration and corrosion in the future. I just completed treatments on several 18th and 19th century objects that were packed with the evidence of old polishing campaigns. There are several excellent objects conservators there is Richmond who you can talk to (I lived in Williamsburg for more than 20 years). If you are familiar with my old good friends Scotty Nolley or Sandy Jensen I would recommend that you talk to them or any of the other objects conservators there. Cheers! Dave David Harvey Conservator Los Angeles, CA On Jan 25, 2008 1:21 PM, Batson, Barbara (LVA) < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > Can you conservators out there recommend a non-abrasive copper cleaner? > > > > Barbara C. Batson > Exhibitions Coordinator > The Library of Virginia > 800 East Broad Street > Richmond, VA 23219-8000 > 804-692-3518 > [log in to unmask] > > > > > ========================================================= Important > Subscriber Information: > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed > information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message > to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "help" (without the quotes). > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to > [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read > "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). > > ========================================================Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------=_Part_3763_23224537.1201358261913 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Barbara,

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If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ------=_Part_3763_23224537.1201358261913-- ========================================================================Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:08:38 +0000 Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> Sender: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> From: Meredith Dunham <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Breaking News - Four Museums in Southern California Raided by Federal Authorities In-Reply-To: <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_56e6e844-9b8b-4622-9553-214a149a6f56_" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_56e6e844-9b8b-4622-9553-214a149a6f56_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For those of you who may have worked in western Montana: Does anyone know of an appraiser who has experience with dinosaur remains? I am going to also be checking with the Museum of the Rockies in Bozeman. Thank you for the help. Meredith Dunham AmeriCorps*VISTA Browning, MT 59417 _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --_56e6e844-9b8b-4622-9553-214a149a6f56_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For those of you who may have worked in western Montana:

Does anyone know of an appraiser who has experience with dinosaur remains?  I am going to also be checking with the Museum of the Rockies in Bozeman. 

Thank you for the help.

Meredith Dunham
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Browning, MT 59417

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Does anyone know of an appraiser who has experience with > din> osaur remains?  I am going to also be checking with the Museum of the > > Rockies in Bozeman. 

Thank you for the help.

Meredith > D> unham
AmeriCorps*VISTA

Browning, MT 59417

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