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On Jan 11, 2008 7:44 PM, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Randy -

Do you even work at a museum? You smell a bit trolly to me, to be honest. This
is a list for members of the museum community, not hostile mens' rights
activists.

That said, I'll bite.

Your email seems to be one big hateful rant after another. You obviously are
anti-woman and anti-parent. You think everyone but you should be punished for
their personal choices or health situations. I note that you "almost" got
fired for taking breaks, and yet - you did not. How does this qualify as
discrimination? Clearly you were passively-aggressively calling attention to
your smoking colleagues' abuse of the break system. This does not make you a
hero, nor does it make you a victim.

If employers want to keep quality employees, they do what they can to meet
their needs. That might be on-site daycare, free smoking cessation programs,
gym memberships, parental leave, or performance bonuses. If our government
was TRULY family-friendly, paid parental leave would be bog-standard, simply
part of the cost of doing business, like paying unemployment, taking out
social security, and (hopefully) providing health insurance.

It is absolutely inappropriate to launch a personal attack on a woman on this
list and call her irresponsible for having a baby. This is misogyny, full
stop. You owe Ms. Hignite an apology.

Jill Chancey, PhD

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:25:49 -0800, Randy Little wrote
> Those are your choices, made by you to have the life you CHOSE. Why
> is that the fault of your employer to pay for that? Leave time I
> can see. Paid leave time ?????? Did you boss ask you to have the
> baby or did you decide to have a baby. Flex time great. work
> from home great. Pay you to stay home because you choose to have a
> baby????? No way. I think that we should have sociallized
> medicine. I think oil and energy should be regulated and not traded
> as open commodities. I think that if you get extra paid time off
> because you made a life choice then every single person or non
> parent should get the SAME AMOUNT OF PERSONAL TIME. Of course I am
> the person that everytime the smokers took a break to go smoke I
> went with them because if they get a smoke break every 2 hours
> (smoking is the most addictive thing on the planet 80-90% addiction
> rate heroin is 50%) Then I should get the same break. I was almost
> fired. Not the smokers though. So WHAT THE HELL. You are not
> entitled to be paid for your choice or I am entitled to the same
> amount of extra leave and pay. I will take either though. The
> planet is over populated anyway and have a baby is just about
> totally irresponsible. But you probably think a hybrid car will
> save us all too. http://www.environmentnc.com/?p=71 Sorry to go so
> far off track as I totally believe that there are really people out
> there that need our help and my money WAY MORE then someone WHO
> CHOOSES to have a baby. Should I pay for you off time or take that
> same money and give it to a batterned woman;s shelter. I would
> rather give that money to abused people who;s lives have been
> shatered not by their choice. There is only so much and it has be
> to spent wisely. Personally I am giving my money to people who have
> had their lives affected not of their own volition. Would I give
> you time off to have your baby OH HELL YES. Will I pay you while
> I pay someone else to do your job until you return NO.
>
> On Jan 11, 2008 1:48 PM, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> >
> > I am pretty sure that the United States does not require paid maternity
> > leave for anyone, regardless of your employer.
> >
> > See this fact sheet:
> > http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/whd/whdfs28.pdf
> >
> > On a personal note, I just took maternity leave over the summer, and was
> > able to cobble enough sick and vacation time together that I only had about
> > $500 worth of unpaid leave at the end. Although now I have very few vacation
> > or sick days, which is a little difficult with an infant at home!
> >
> > I would encourage anyone considering having children, pregnant, or with
> > children to request above the minimum required by law for family leave.
> > While I didn't have any paid leave, I was able to negotiate a flexible
> > schedule for when I returned, which allows me to work at home 2 days of the
> > week for 9 months. The more people ask for it, the more employers will feel
> > obliged to offer it!
> >
> > I believe it is a travesty that the US does not require any paid family
> > leave--maybe a new occupant of the White House will change that!
> >
> > Good luck to all of you struggling with these issues from someone who's
> > been there! I'd be happy to talk more with anyone interested off-list.
> >
> > Best,
> > Sara
> >
> > Sara Hignite, Chief Registrar
> > Mildred Lane Kemper Art Museum
> > Sam Fox School of Design & Visual Arts
> > Washington University in St. Louis
> > One Brookings Drive, Campus Box 1214
> > St. Louis, MO 63130
> > Tel. 314.935.5385; Fax 314.935.7282
> >
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