not sure if you are aware, stacy, but collins published a follow-up to "good to great" -- a brief monograph -- about how his methods and results can be applied to the not-for-profit sector see: http://www.amazon.com/Good-Great-Social-Sectors-Monograph/dp/0977326403 /jonathan At 10:54 AM 10/23/2007, you wrote: >I agree with Sarah, what is "right" might be very different in real >life. We all have dead weight on our boards, commissions, trustees, >but if that person is the friend/wife/husband/sister/brother etc of >YOUR most important donor then they are "right" and you will not see >them getting off the bus no matter what model you are using. Maybe >they are "right" by proxy. > >C.A.Sneddon > > > > > >-------------- Original message from Sarah Griswold ><[log in to unmask]>: -------------- > >The first challenge is deciding what "right" is. In a small non >profit, that is often a collective decision, and one philosophy of >"right" may lead the organization in one direction, while another >philosophy will take the organization somewhere else. It's much >easier to identify "wrong" - though even that can be a challenge. > >Sarah Griswold >CT > >----- Original Message ---- >From: Stacy Klingler <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 3:56:46 PM >Subject: [MUSEUM-L] Can museums use Collins' Good to Great Model? > >Good to Great's Right People on the Bus vs. Training the Troops > >I've just finished listening to Jim Collins' Good to Great on CD >during my commute to and from work. The book has been recommended >to me by several people in thinking about how to build a great >museum. One of the foundation principals is the idea that "you have >to get the right be on the bus and the wrong people off the bus" in >order to have a great organization. While I would certainly agree >that having the "right" people makes the job inordinately easier, I >wonder if this is a model that non-profit museums, particular those >that have small budgets and offer small salaries will find >useful. Can you attract the "right" people if the compensation is >inadequate? What about the smaller organizations in smaller >communities where there may not be enough "right" people to fill up >the vacancies on the board? > >One possible response is that the "right" people will volunteer and >sacrifice for the "right" organization. Noble, but not necessarily >a model that works. > >Another, more likely response, I expect, is that training and >support of current staff and those new to the field is an alternative model. > >I would be very interested in hearing a point-counterpoint >discussion at the 2008 AASLH Annual Meeting on this topic of finding >the right people vs. training the people you have. Are both >successful strategies? What resources are needed to make each of >them successful? > >Is there anybody out there who might be interested in taking a >side? Sharing your experience with either the "right people" or the >"right training" or an entirely different model for success? > >Stacy Klingler >Asst. Dir., Local History Services, Indiana Historical Society >========================================================= Important >Subscriber Information: > >The Museum-L FAQ file is located at ><http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/>http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ >. You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by >sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . >The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). > >If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail >message to [log in to unmask] . 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