Melinda, We are in exactly the same situation. All of our facilities(lights, water, power, and all cleaning/maintenance) are managed by the various university physical plant departments. We have an electronic security access system that supplements the key based system, which is how we control access. There are many places we actually want the physical plant to have access. We have a pretty good relationship with the physical plant personnel, and they understand our needs for security. The university police department also has limited access. Essentially we set it up in layers. All of the major doors in the museum are magnetically locked at certain times of the day. All of those doors are also key lockable, and some stay locked all the time. Physical plant has keys to some of those doors, but they have no access at all after hours. Our workroom is generally off limits to anyone but staff, and our object storage vault has only two magnetic keys(mine and the curator). The door and magnetic key system is attached to the alarm system, which alerts the university police. It is supplemented by a recorded digital video camera system. That system seems to work fairly well, with a couple issues relating to the specific structure of my building, which I have not yet solved. One being that one of the doors we do not have access to for fire safety reasons is actually behind one of the doors they do not have access to. The biggest part, other than the functionality of the system itself, is communicating with physical plant and making sure they understand why they need to ask before accessing certain areas. We do not normally deny them access at any time, and they understand why we want to know who is where and when. We have learned the hard way in the past that an entrenched way of doing things can be intensely resistant to change. You do not want to try or be perceived as attempting to force them off your turf. Even if you succeeded, the last people on campus you ever want to be upset with you is your physical plant staff. A written policy, worked out with their needs in mind as well as yours, combined with considered discussion with the right people will go the farthest distance toward your goal. I would suggest you communicate your needs to the head of your physical plant as well as your university police (if applicable) before the installation of your new electronic system(s). Then re-key your locks at the same time you install the system(s). At that point you have full knowledge of who has keys/cards to what, and you can begin the process of weaning your physical plant off full access. In my situation, there is a certain degree of trust that I am forced to allow, but I also take steps to try and insure that said trust is monitored. They do not mind as long as the doing of our job does not interfere with the doing of their job unnecessarily. Good luck with your new system. Mark Janzen Registrar/Collections Manager Edwin A. Ulrich Museum of Art Martin H. Bush Outdoor Sculpture Collection Wichita State University (316)978-5850 Melinda McPeek <[log in to unmask] EDU> To Sent by: Museum [log in to unmask] discussion list cc <[log in to unmask] SE.LSOFT.COM> Subject Internal Security Policy for University Museums 03/01/2006 11:49 AM Please respond to Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask] SE.LSOFT.COM> Hello, I am the Collections Manager for a small University Gallery/Museum and am in the process of writing a security/access policy for the Museum. Our facility is managed by the University’s Physical Plant which means that all Physical Plant staff have keys and access to the Museum and Collections Storage areas and all contract work goes through them. This presents a huge problem and I am trying to change this policy. Physical changes such as new locks, swipe card entry, etc. are in the works, but the larger obstacle is getting the Physical Plant and University to see that we are a unique entity with unique needs and that restricted access is standard practice and that we need to change the existing policy. Are there any University Museum staff out there in a similar situation and do you have sample policies you could share in regards to internal access? Thanks for your assistance, Melinda McPeek ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes).