Yet, we must not forget that the Kansas creationists have "evolved" more than the Pennsylvania creationists. It is important to see that the creationists in Kansas have learned from their previous mistakes. There is no mention of intelligent design or God in the science standards. Instead they have produced language that is very complex. Now this is coming from a historian, yet when I read the standards yesterday, I had a hard time distinguishing the science from the non-science. I have even taught Darwin's Origin of Species and feel that I am fairly well educated on the matter, yet to the average high school biology teacher, they must be equally confused. So, what am I saying? The language is smarter than some might think. Kansas creationist have created language that may be harder to strike down (at least culturally) yet at the same time it still allows for a critique of evolutionary theory with intelligent design. We must throw those who voted for the new standards out of office, yet that takes resources and organizing. Calling them idiots only goes so far. Respectfully from the hinterlands, Dan Daniel Carey Education Coordinator Education/Outreach Division Kansas State Historical Society 6425 SW Sixth Avenue Topeka, Kansas 66615-1099 Phone (785) 272-8681 ext. 436 Fax (785) 272-8682 [log in to unmask] >>> [log in to unmask] 11/9/2005 9:25:26 AM >>> Indeed! Although none of us capable of understanding why these people are fools are surprised, it is still disgusting. Kansas is already rock bottom in the educational standings. This ought to push Kansas students right off the lists. Pennsylvania on the other hand seems to have a brain or two among them. http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05313/603128.stm Mark Janzen Registrar/Collections Manager Edwin A. Ulrich Museum of Art Martin H. Bush Outdoor Sculpture Collection Wichita State University (316)978-5850 Greenwich <[log in to unmask] .CA> To Sent by: Museum [log in to unmask] discussion list cc <[log in to unmask] SE.LSOFT.COM> Subject Kansas falls off the ends of the earth 11/07/2005 02:45 PM Please respond to Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask] SE.LSOFT.COM> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051108/sc_nm/life_evolution_kansas_dc ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes).