Jason, For my part...I do not believe that our encouragement or discouragement is going to significantly effect the general selling/buying activity. I feel discouraging sellers who do not want to donate only alienates them. They are going to sell the stuff anyway, and they will be less likely to consider you or other museums in the future. Private collecting by museum employees is another matter, but I did not think that was your question. I think our place in such situations is first and foremost to encourage donation to a good institution. If they are not interested in going that route, then we can help them find another venue. Valuating or authenticating their works is still considered unethical behavior. We can however help them find reputable auction houses, and suggest other collectors/dealers who might be interested. I am just now wondering how the profession might view steering a seller toward a private collector who we know will eventually give their collections to our museums. Unethical or savvy? Probably a fine line. I always figure that the more information I can ethically give the public and the better the venue for their materials, the better care the objects will be given in the long run. I want a painting(or whatever) to sell for the most possible, rather than going for nothing on e-bay. The buyer will then value it more, and hopefully care for it better. I am not sure of the validity of this logic, but I figure the longer it lasts the more likely it will eventually end up in a museum. Helping the public in this way also helps put a positive face on the museum and its outlook on such things. That may eventually result in more donations. To a certain degree, we are in competition with the private market, but I do not think in a negative way. We should always be aware of what is going on in the market, since it can have direct bearing on what we are given/not given as well as how our collections are perceived. Museums in turn have an effect on the private market by collecting and showing certain objects considered to be particularly special or quality. I guess that could be looked at as more of a symbiotic relationship. I hope that is helpful. Mark Janzen Registrar/Collections Manager Edwin A. Ulrich Museum of Art Martin H. Bush Outdoor Sculpture Collection Wichita State University (316)978-5850 Jason Aikens <jason.aikens@PRO FOOTBALLHOF.COM> To Sent by: Museum [log in to unmask] discussion list cc <[log in to unmask] SE.LSOFT.COM> Subject Pros and Cons of Private Collecting 04/05/2005 11:09 AM Please respond to Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask] SE.LSOFT.COM> I have a philosophical question on whether museums should encourage or discourage private collecting. As the Collections Curator at the Pro Football Hall of Fame it is my responsibility to field questions from the public regarding the value of their memorabilia on how they can sell their memorabilia. Often people mistakenly believe that we purchase memorabilia which we do not. Everything we collect is through donations. Our institution wrestles with the dilemma, as a public service should we help people determine the value of their memorabilia? Should we help them sell their memorabilia by pointing out reputable dealers and auction houses? Or is the memorabilia market and private collecting a source of competition to our own acquisition efforts through donations? Or does the memorabilia market and private collecting generate interest in football memorabilia in general and encourages collectors and the public to attend our museum to see highly valuable memorabilia? I’m sure many professionals can relate to this dilemma, since nearly all museums collect objects or works of art that not only have historical significance but also have monetary value in the open market. Please let me know what your opinions are on this issue. If this issue, as to whether museums should discourage or encourage private collecting, has been discussed in museum publications please let me know. Thanks Jason Aikens Collections Curator ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes).