LD,
I am also against the war in Iraq, but come now LD, you are
making an assumption and fallacy that "most of the people who have been
killed in Iraq are non-combatant Iraqi people..." and "the overwhelming majority
of those people have been killed by the US military and it's government. That is
a simple fact."
Could you please post or email me privately the evidence "or simple
fact[s]" you have to verify your assumption. Odd, during the war
I've seen Iraqi people (Saddam Hussein supporters, etc.) firing at the American
soldiers, and the soldiers firing back and killing them. That is the
process of war and what happens. However, more recently, I've seen the
same politically minded people[s] loading themselves with high explosives and
blowing themselves up or running check points to blow up both American GI's
and innocent Iraqi people. Surely, the Iraqi people have been
killing their own people.
It may be true that a few American GIs "have refused to go along,"
however, I seriously doubt you can support there "probably (are) many
who we will not hear about." IMHO, that remains only speculation
and opinion on your part. Even though American GI's may not
want to be over there, I've read and seen the reports. Plus, as an
ex-GI myself, I know for a fact that most troops are there to do
their job, be it fighting to preserve freedom for America, to bring freedom to
the Iraqi people, etc.
Yes, my opinion of the war has changed (because of great postings by
Nicholas, James and others) of why we entered Iraq looking for supposed WMD that
just have not been found nor I doubt will ever be.
IMHO, American troops are there simply to do their
job. However, the real answers of why we are
there vary from political to economical reasons. For the
economical, my opinion rest to protect the oil fields of the rich oil
companies and holdings of corporations in the Middle East.
Historically, too, we see that both the USA, France, Russia and other countries
have fed military weapons into the Middle East for years. You might say,
it was about to blow and it did.
Indeed, I think that the American people and their allies have
been duped by Bush and others (CIA, etc.) into thinking that there were WMD
to get US troops into Iraq. With this in mind, the problem
of deaths because of an invasion is not to be blamed by the
soldiers (of any nation or war) but by the politicians and those who put
the troops into the field of battle in the first place for their own personal or
financial gain (and the gas prices at the pumps may have a touch to do with
it).
I am sorry, but I also disagree with your thought that
the deaths of the Iraqi people have been totally the cause of US
soldiers, especially with all the car bombs, suicide bombers, etc., blowing
up themselves and their own people. As the war continues, I see
more and more of these types of deaths happening, and caused by these types
of people --- not by American soldiers. This is
a different type of war because of terrorism, where the enemy is
unknown. It is almost an invisible war because of the
situation. Sadly, the innocent are going to be killed more and more,
and not just by soldiers but by terrorists.
We are in a different kind of war, and I think museum exhibits, to be
honest, need to deal with this factor. I see a great
change in exhibit presentation of this type because of this new type
of "terrorist" war. Yes, war is "hell" and 'war booty' that does
make it to the exhibits, may be pictures of the innocent lives lost by a
terrorist blowing up a crowded street in the Middle East. However, to be
fair curators and exhibit teams would also have to deal with
the reasons why the war began. The story would not be factual,
if the exhibit did not explain the thousands of lives lost because of
the injustice and rule of Saddam Hussein over the Iraqi
people. I think this opens up many thought-provoking exhibits
in the future.
In addition, I must comment on your view that "aerial bombardments of urban
residential areas, water supplies, and power plants (all proscribed as 'war
crimes' by the Geneva Convention, btw), the cluster bombs and maimed
children." However, this is what war is all about, and the
innocent becomes the statistics. War is about death, however,
in most cases in Iraq the bombardments were very well orchestrated,
which saved many lives. It is well documented
that residential areas, water supplies and power plants were not the target
in Iraq, but places where Saddam Hussein and/or his supporters were
possible located.
Many have or never will forget what happened on 9/11,
which IMHO was a prime factor in pushing the US into the mentality
to invade Iraq. Thus, patriotism and a nation getting behind its
government (even thought the reasons of the WMD was a main factor in why we
went into Iraq) should also be part of an exhibit. I am sure
government reports, media coverage of the war in Iraq and other types of
new artifacts will be added to exhibits (or libraries) to tell
the story of the war in Iraq.
I also agree with the postings that the military has handled the issue of
"war booty" that deals with stolen heritage and artifacts of the ancient
culture. Such artifacts should not be allowed, and criminal charges
possibly filed if a person or donor presents such items to museums (that's
another issue! What does a museum do if they are presented with stolen
artifacts?). As with this subject of "Iraq donations", I think
differences of opinions on Museum-list spark the creative mind, and in
that sense, will provide museums new ideas to build exhibits that
will tell of a war that was not wanted, but happened.
John (14+ years military).
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 7:41
AM
Subject: Re: Iraq donation
Was it Samuel Johnson who said 'patriotism is the last refuge
of
scoundrels'? I forget. It's not important.
In any event, I
support the GIs who question and dissent from their own
role in the
occupation, and I assume many do. We have heard of a few
who have refused
to go along, there are probably many who we will not
hear
about.
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