Return-path: <[log in to unmask]> From: [log in to unmask] Full-name: Pamsezgin Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 12:18:44 EDT Subject: Fwd: H-TURK: Iraq MSS, archives and libraries: situation report To: [log in to unmask] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="part2_192.1ba16215.2c18b064_boundary" X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 10638 --part2_192.1ba16215.2c18b064_boundary Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part2_192.1ba16215.2c18b064_alt_boundary" --part2_192.1ba16215.2c18b064_alt_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Listers, I caution that it is important to read many sources, not just the popular American media, to try to get a full picture at what happened to cultural heritage sites and collections in Iraq. There was an article in The New York Times a few days ago about the National Museum collections in Baghdad and this vault. From the beginning, I remember Donny George, Director of the Museums and Ministry of Antiquities in Baghdad, talking about the fact that some artifacts had been saved and hidden by museum staffers in bank vaults, but given the chaos that ensuing at the disbanding of the Iraqi government, no one knew if the vaults were safe. However, according to The New York Times article, which came from an international wire service (Reuters?), the items in the vault only were those from the most popular exhibits, and do not account for several thousand artifacts still missing or destroyed that were in the museum's storage on-site storage facilities. David is right to mention the vandalism. The pictures were saw in print and on television after the disaster showed many smashed statues and large ancient statues with heads missing. The edges of these statues were not smooth from the ravages of thousands of years, but rather, they had jagged edges showing that their valuable visages were crudely ripped off during the looting of the museum. We should also remember that it wasn't just ONE museum that was looted. There are over 10,000 archaeological sites in Iraq and many of them were and continue to be plundered. The fine network of regional museums have not been discussed, but one also wonders what happened to their collections. Here's a post from the H-TURK List about the manuscript library. Cordially, pamela sezgin ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --part2_192.1ba16215.2c18b064_alt_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" FACE= =3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Dear Listers,<BR> <BR> I caution that it is important to read many sources, not just the popular Am= erican media, to try to get a full picture at what happened to cultural heri= tage sites and collections in Iraq. <BR> <BR> There was an article in The New York Times a few days ago about the National= Museum collections in Baghdad and this vault. From the beginnin= g, I remember Donny George, Director of the Museums and Ministry of Antiquit= ies in Baghdad, talking about the fact that some artifacts had been saved an= d hidden by museum staffers in bank vaults, but given the chaos that ensuing= at the disbanding of the Iraqi government, no one knew if the vaults=20= were safe. However, according to The New York Times articl= e, which came from an international wire service (Reuters?), the items= in the vault only were those from the most popular exhibits, and do not acc= ount for several thousand artifacts still missing or destroyed that were in=20= the museum's storage on-site storage facilities.<BR> <BR> David is right to mention the vandalism. The pictures were saw i= n print and on television after the disaster showed many smashed statues and= large ancient statues with heads missing. The edges of th= ese statues were not smooth from the ravages of thousands of years, but = ; rather, they had jagged edges showing that their valuable visages we= re crudely ripped off during the looting of the museum.<BR> <BR> We should also remember that it wasn't just ONE museum that was looted. <BR> There are over 10,000 archaeological sites in Iraq and many of them were and= continue to be plundered. The fine network of regio= nal museums have not been discussed, but one also wonders what happened to t= heir collections.<BR> <BR> Here's a post from the H-TURK List about the manuscript library.<BR> <BR> Cordially,<BR> pamela sezgin</FONT></HTML> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Important Subscriber Information: <p> The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . 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The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --part2_192.1ba16215.2c18b064_alt_boundary-- --part2_192.1ba16215.2c18b064_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (rly-yb02.mail.aol.com [172.18.146.2]) by air-yb04.mail.aol.com (v94.29) with ESMTP id MAILINYB42-38c63ee70745241; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 06:41:10 -0400 Received: from cherry.ease.lsoft.com (cherry.ease.lsoft.com [209.119.0.109]) by rly-yb02.mx.aol.com (v94.27) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB22-17e3ee7073697; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 06:40:54 -0400 Received: from PEAR.EASE.LSOFT.COM (209.119.0.19) by cherry.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP for Digital Unix v1.1b) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 6:40:54 -0400 Received: from H-NET.MSU.EDU by H-NET.MSU.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8d) with spool id 280579 for [log in to unmask]; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 06:40:52 -0400 Delivered-To: [log in to unmask] Received: (qmail 4002 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2003 10:40:51 -0000 Received: from bs1-06.fas.harvard.edu (140.247.34.181) by h-net.hst.msu.edu with SMTP; 11 Jun 2003 10:40:51 -0000 Received: from is05.fas.harvard.edu (IDENT:[log in to unmask] [140.247.34.105]) by bs1-06.fas.harvard.edu (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h5BAemF19030; Wed, 11 Jun 2003 06:40:48 -0400 Received: by is05.fas.harvard.edu with ESMTP id h5BAelD13347 X-Authentication-Warning: is05.fas.harvard.edu: riedlmay owned process doing -bs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Approved-By: Andras Riedlmayer <[log in to unmask]> Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 06:40:47 -0400 Reply-To: TSA/H-Net List for Turkish and Ottoman History and Culture <[log in to unmask]> Sender: TSA/H-Net List for Turkish and Ottoman History and Culture <[log in to unmask]> From: Andras Riedlmayer <[log in to unmask]> Subject: H-TURK: Iraq MSS, archives and libraries: situation report To: [log in to unmask] X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) A report by Nabil al-Tikriti on his 25-31 May visit to Baghdad and his assessment of the situation of manuscript collections and libraries: "IRAQ MANUSCRIPT COLLECTIONS, ARCHIVES, & LIBRARIES: SITUATION REPORT" was distributed Monday morning on the IraqCrisis list and some other forums; the report is now available in a formatted on-line version: http://www-oi.uchicago.edu/OI/IRAQ/docs/nat.html The author of the report, Nabil al-Tikriti, is a doctoral candidate in the Dept of Near Eastern Languages and Civilizations at the U. of Chicago and is familiar with Iraqi manuscript collections from previous research trips before the war. His report on his recent site visits and interviews in Baghdad provides the first assessment since the end of the war of the state of libraries and manuscript collections in Iraq and of the nature and extent of damage to these institutions and their holdings. Andras Riedlmayer Committee on Iraqi Libraries Middle East Librarians Association http://www-oi.uchicago.edu/OI/IRAQ/mela/melairaq.html ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). --part2_192.1ba16215.2c18b064_boundary--