I have kept my silence throughout this entire thread, but now you have moved from preachin' to meddlin' Having worked with Gene for more than two years, back at the Field Museum, I must take issue with "ugly ties" Pots may or may not be the Liberty Bell, collections may or may not be museums (and vice versa) and Eugene may or may not be worthy of appearing in the subject line.... BUT, those ties were, and I assume still are, glorious. The world, with or without pots, museums or subject lines would be a lot better off if we all took our neckware example from Mr. D Of course, the fish in his pocket is another matter altogether Mark C. Cohen Design, Technical and Management Services ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes).