Let's see, this was a little while ago: Rudy Giuliani went to see Sensations at the Brooklyn Museum. He saw a mixed media work, primarily a painting, by Chris Ofoli of the Madonna or Virgin Mary. Ofoli used elephant dung as part of the body of Mary. Elephant dung is sacred where Ofoli comes from. Giuliani got upset and began a personal crusade against the Ofoli work of art. As mayor of NYC, of which Brooklyn is a part, he threatened to pull city funding away from the museum unless it removed the Ofoli from the exhibition. He did not demand the closing of Sensations, only the removal of the Ofoli. The media, especially the Post/Daily News papers which are somewhat sensationalists, took up the cry. Others got into the story. Blah, blah, blah. After this Giuliani initiated some sort of city government watch-dog office for art. I don't know if it's still in existence. It must not be or that Fischl probably would have gotten into Rockefeller Center. So, the problem was not the entire Sensations show, it was one work in the show, the Ofoli which I think is now in some museum and his career has blossomed. The entire thing was started by a Roman Catholic mayor, who justifies cheating on his wife (at least 2 mistresses while mayor), who was offended. The mayor using the power of his office and the personal hypocrisy of his religion felt it his place to demand the removal on the work of art that offended him. Bloomberg has not, as far as I know, made any comment on the Fischl. I haven't really seen anything on the Fischl in the NYC papers since it was first mentioned, as "bad." I don't think the Times has even covered it, I could have missed it though. The only debate about whether or not the sculpture should stay that I've encountered is on this list. Other people in NYC may be talking about it, but not the art historians I know. Perhaps you consider the man-who-was-mayor-on-a-personal-crusade, Giuliani, and the offended general public the same thing. But, these are not at all the same stories. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Schulte" <[log in to unmask]> To: <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 6:15 PM Subject: Re: 9/11 Censorship? Statue of falling woman censored > Loretta i have to beg to differ with you on Sensations, this exhibit was > offensive which began the Cities efforts to have it shut down. If no had > objected to its content and value there would have been no controversy . So > the situation is similar. As for Guiliani"s reputation, he became a hero due > to his behavior durring this crisis, however his popularity was fading and > continues to fade with his womanizing. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lorettalorance" <[log in to unmask]> > To: <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 2:17 PM > Subject: Re: 9/11 Censorship? Statue of falling woman censored > > ------------------------------------------- Introducing NetZero Long Distance Unlimited Long Distance only $29.95/ month! Sign Up Today! www.netzerolongdistance.com ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes).