First off, I've been involved in private dialogue with the gentleman in question. He's a very gracious individual, and he deserves my empathy. Clearly, he has that, and hopefully he has some additional resources. I don't know how long each of you has been on the list. Frankly, I don't care. I can only speak to how long I've been here, and that's about 4-1/2 years if memory serves me correctly (though there are never any guarantees the more candles I get). Note to Self: Must eat more Vitamin B12 foods to stave off the memory lapses. His was a good post. Of that, there is no doubt. But his was the second post in a very short period of time that was headed toward the path of "I Need a Job." Some of the long timers will tell you that, about this time of year, when the new school year starts, there are a slew of eager individuals who find the list and immediately want job help. From what I've been able to glean here, museum employees are not often long-term career employees but seem to move from job to job as the opportunity to advance or be enriched presents itself. So that adds to the factor a whole slew of additional job seekers. Experience has shown that, on this list, there are three factions: those who want job help, those who don't want job postings, and those who don't care one way or the other. But there are enough in the first two contingents that, when the job postings start, there's usually a ballyhoo. Check the archives for yourselves if you have the time and/or don't believe me. Where are the archives? Check the sigfile of each message from the Museums list, click on its link, scroll down, and it will take you to the archives. An attempt at being half humorous was translated at cynical. Tuff taters! I'm not responsible for how one single person on this list chooses to interpret ANYTHING. All I was doing was attempting to be clever but, more importantly, attempting to consolidate the answers that usually come jostling forth on this list when somebody says, "I need a job." Roger says, "Use Global Museum." I say, "Use my employment web site." Three or four more people usually respond with a number of other answers, most of which have been captured in my website. I threw "Crazy Roy's" website in there (the boy is nuts about museums and has worked his heart out putting together a valuable resource that should be used and codes like a madman, constantly trying to enhance the site, so use it if you're smart!) because you can find tons of museums at the tip of your fingers. I also suggested, I think, to go to http://www.newspaperlinks.com (and if I didn't, I just did, but it's in the Topics section of my web site). And, for good measure, I said join us on the MuseJobs list (where, for the record, every job posting here gets cross posted, resumes can be uploaded, Marina, Julia, and several others contribute positions they've found, I include the HotJobs.com tips, Jim Roberts posts the stuff on his University of Leicester (UK) web site, I give them employment law info for several countries, they get articles about the state of employment in general. They are reminded to visit Roger's site episodically. Best of all, we have some extremely talented museums professionals who are able to offer job seekers good insights when questions are answered. What I was ATTEMPTING to do was to stop another one of these silly, petty, there-are-more-important-things-to-dispute discussions, but WE have failed. The hell with it. Argue all you want about who the idiot of the day is. I'm not wearing that crown, and neither was the original job seeker. I'm going back to the pro bono stuff I do and read the rest of the mail. I'm sure my delete key will get a very justifiable workout. The pettiness and ungraciousness of some is mitigated tremendously by the vary sagacious and gracious people on this list--like Mr. Weeks and some of the others. You can't fool all of the people all of the time, and you sure as hell can't please them. And David H, if you find a typo or grammatical error, that's my gift to you today! Yes, I'm being sarcastic. To mitigate these ballyhoos, I spend about two hours a day pro bono working for the greater good of the community. I'm going to indulge myself for five minutes and think that maybe I've earned the right. Have whatever day you want to! --- Lara Taylor <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Ross and Indigo, I wholeheartedly disagree ===== Indigo Nights [log in to unmask] Looking for a Job? 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