Exactly! Thank you Indigo Nights. Fiona -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Indigo Nights Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:53 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: subject terms for race Dr. Kavanagh, I'm curious. In college (last several years), I was told that there was no such thing as race, that it is an artificial construct. Is there truly such a thing as "race"? I would think that things like DNA and gene mapping might preclude the concept of race. As for the person who posted the original question, I think I might be very careful about classifying "the race" of the people in the pictures if you only classified one and then not the others. First, it's been my experience that a term that is acceptable for one "race" of people is soon out-of-date and not accepted. What would be the need to identify "the race" of those in the photograph rather than their country of origin? --- thomas w kavanagh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Well, no, "ethnicity" is not an anthropological, > politically correct or > otrherwise, substitute for "race" although it is > often sloppily used that > way in the US. "Ethnicity" is cultural (e.g. > Comanche, Irish, or Tetela, > etc.), "race" is biological (e.g. American Indian, > African, etc.) > > But yes we do include tribe in the catalog of our > Wanamaker Collection of > American Indian photographs. > > Thomas Kavanagh, PhD > Curator of Collections > Mathers Museum of World Cultures > Indiana University > > > On Tue, 18 Jun 2002, Fiona Adams wrote: > > > Hi Lynnea. Form my anthropological view, the > politically correct term is > > "ethnicity" not race. We are the human race made > up of ethnicities. > > > > As far as categorizing the pictures, there is no > harm in categorizing by > > ethnicity and by groups. I suggest doing what you > think works best for your > > organization. Hope this helps. > > > > Best, > > Fiona Adams > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Museum discussion list > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On > > Behalf Of Lynnea Kleinschmidt > > Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 8:52 AM > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: subject terms for race > > > > > > I posted a question about cataloging on the > listserv, and no one has > > responded. > > > > Here is the query again. > > > > Do you usually identify the race of people in > photographs when you catalog > > them? If so, do you identify the race of everyone > in the photograph or only > > that of selected persons? > > > > I am the coordinator for an IMLS museum-library > collaboration grant. We are > > using three controlled vocabulary lists: AAT, > TGM1, and LCSH for providing > > subject access. We are cataloging World War II > shipyard materials, so > > gender and race are important issues for the > stories of the work force and > > for our community. The policy for applying race > access has been discussed. > > > > Does anyone address this issue? > > > > > ========================================================= > > Important Subscriber Information: > > > > The Museum-L FAQ file is located at > > http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You > may obtain detailed > > information about the listserv commands by sending > a one line e-mail message > > to [log in to unmask] . The body of the > message should read "help" > > (without the quotes). > > > > If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one > line e-mail message to > > [log in to unmask] . 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