Star, thank you for that eloquent, and on target, response. You are absolutely correct. This is one of my "soapbox issues." I remember those planks well. And frankly, I did a few wicked things in my day (hope there's no one on this list who knew me in my day!) and I can understand the thrill of irresponsible behavior, and defying authority. One thing I didn't do was mouth off when I was caught. That's my big gripe. Candace -----Original Message----- From: Museum discussion list [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Star Meyer Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 3:27 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Problems with skateboarders on the museum property I've read the skateboarders messages with interest as we had a similar problem in front of our building which, thankfully, solved itself. The kids must have found somewhere else more interesting. They left behind a scarred and broken mess. I find myself, as often, too able to see both sides. Skateboarding is a "new" sport (I'd hate to date myself by dating my own skateboard, thick as a plank, wait, it WAS a plank, made just for me by my very own dad, aaah, what these kids are missing with their off-the-shelf hi-techie stuff), but the kids need to experience it as part of their maturing process, and learn to respect others' "rights," not just insist on their own. The kids who want a skateboard part shouldn't have it "given" to them. If the kids are old enough to be out so long on their own (and have so much study-free time on their hands!), they also are old enough to have after-school jobs to earn money to help pay for their skateboard park, and to organize fund raisers. This would help them learn to be productive and patient, to work towards getting what they want (adulthood offers few hand-outs to most of us, regardless of who we and where we are), and, perhaps, also instill in them a sense of non-violent civic participation, conservation, and respect for public property. Star [log in to unmask] ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes). ========================================================= Important Subscriber Information: The Museum-L FAQ file is located at http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "help" (without the quotes). If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes).