>From: john lamberson <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Museum Board to Pick Architect for Overhaul >Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 21:32:31 +0000 > >Perhaps I've missed a point somewhere in this thread, but I find >nothing >startling about a museum embarking upon an expansion/capital >campaign, even >during a turbulent economy. LACMA is far from the only one doing >so. If my >recollection is accurate (always a chancy thing), I believe LACMA's >current >"campus" was built from the ground up starting in 1965. They do own >one >historic building (the old May dept. store), but that site is some >blocks >away from the proposed new construction. I will say, having been >involved >with over a dozen such projects, that in California the cost of >demolishing/rebuilding is often more cost-effective than a remodel. >This is >primarily due to stringent (deservedly so) and very expensive >requirements >in respect to seismic retrofitting. Please note I am not referring >to >historic sites/buildings, where demolition should not be an >option... > >John Lamberson >Lamberson Consulting, LLC > > >>From: Sharon Buford <[log in to unmask]> >>Reply-To: Museum discussion list <[log in to unmask]> >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: Museum Board to Pick Architect for Overhaul >>Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 12:39:48 +0000 >> >>> >Chris Taylor-Atchison County Historical Society (KS) Museum >>> >What exactly is the shocking part of this article? >>> >>>Chris, >>> >>>It is not the article but rather the comparison ... expensive >>>overhaul >>>options could be considered,... at one museum while at the same >>>time... >>>that other major museums be subjected to severe, if not >>>devastating,>financial cuts. >>> >>>Regards, >>> >>>Mr. Nicola Linza, Founder and Managing Director >> >>May I jump in? >> >>Where is the budgeting voming from to fund this "overhaul", where >>are the >>funds coming from in the Musuems whose budgets are being cut? >>Remember we >>live in a country where the weath disparity is enormous - this is >>across >>the >>board - private people and the ARTS. It is a fact of life. >> >>What I find disturbing, is the quote ... >> >>Robert Ahmanson, a trustee whose family name is on one of the >>museum >>buildings that might be razed, ... [said] "I would not object to a >>scheme >>that involves tearing down [the Ahmanson Building]," he said. It >>might be >>"a >>matter of dollars and cents," he added, noting that starting anew >>can be >>cheaper than upgrading an old building. >> >> >>Apprently, he and no one else on the board have read the studies >>that show >>it is RARELY more affordable to demolish a builing and rebuild. My >>question >>is this. If the project is done WITHOUT state or federal $$ than >>Section >>106, does NOT come into play. Are any of these buildings HISTORIC, >>was >>there >>any consideration in the program for the Achitects to incorporate >>historic >>buildings, or were they told to start with a clean slate? >> >>I have never been to LA, and know nothing of the building that are >>there, >>but would be interested to know if any are historic??? >> >>Sharon Buford >>Murray State Univ >>Grad Student - Public History >> >> >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >>http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp >> >>========================================================= >>Important Subscriber Information: >> >>The Museum-L FAQ file is located at >>http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed >>information about the listserv commands by sending a one line >>e-mail >>message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message >>should >>read "help" (without the quotes). >> >>If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail >>message to >>[log in to unmask] . The body of the message should read >>"Signoff >>Museum-L" (without the quotes). > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > >========================================================= >Important Subscriber Information: > >The Museum-L FAQ file is located at >http://www.finalchapter.com/museum-l-faq/ . You may obtain detailed >information about the listserv commands by sending a one line e-mail >message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message >should read "help" (without the quotes). > >If you decide to leave Museum-L, please send a one line e-mail >message to [log in to unmask] . The body of the message >should read "Signoff Museum-L" (without the quotes).